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to asians, to resist the resurgence of a cold war mentality and reject the coercion of her gemini instead promoting open regionalism and inclusive asian values. lang also suggested quote, certain major powers outside the region of exaggerating ideological differences in order to so confrontation to discuss as indefinitely now across live to our panel of guest senior fellow at the time the institute in our tank and asia, political risk analysts, rough find gold political analysts and host of the silk and steel podcast carls off . welcome to all of you. and i'm going to start this wonderful discussion with karl . so caro, china's top diplomat, when he and his speech spoke about the reunification of asia and the importance of remembering one's roots noting that westerners can't tell agents of part what reaction can we expect from japan and south korea? from this statement. i mean was just speed stating the
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i'd be the united states for 30 years. i think for most people to tell the difference between chinese korean or japanese. and right now we're at a very juncture we, united states is trying to resign. east asia and united states cannot to because the software is what's called the tyranny of distances, yes, across the entire pacific ocean to buy insurance. so this is why the united states right now it's trying to be is back to states which has soccer yet. and japan is benji china to say that when i get now was say, well, you know why, you don't have to be that massive space. you have to use the client space united states, we're just using the united states of these 3rd media policy work is china. just like currently seeing where it is.
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chris was just reminding his counterparts in south korea and japan that there is much more to gain to work together for much more peaceful passports, asia. now in our on that same tangent, he also q some powers of dividing. the reason how divided is asia today with the emergence of pan arrow bas um and pan african is a via multi polarity. what are the prospects of unity in asia as well? i mean, right now it's uh, you know, from china's perspective it's the old colonial gain game of divide and conquer, obviously, uh, south korea and japan have different notions. they have different systems, but that's not antithetical to china. china does not have an ideology which it says other country it should follow. whether it's merely pointing out is that this is an
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asian century. welf production markets are in the east and that will continue to be a reality for some time. and rather than have countries of warring against each other are working against each other's economic and political and security interest, we'd be better to countries to just simply not unite, but simply to live with each other trade with each other and not let them itself be used as proxies in terms of asians or as the continent, obviously central asia, it was a very successful meeting. the 1st one of its type in the earlier this year when shooting, paying had the 1st and our role meeting of the 5 central asian states. it was all about economics, it was not politics, us young, obviously our c e b has brought them closer together and it's going to continue. china is at the center of goods and services that are flowing out to these
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countries and from those countries to other places in the world, it is not simply china alone. it is china, as, as i said, as the center of over a large economic engine. it's not only fueling asia, but also fueling the world. well, ross with all this talk of asian unity, japan has already stated that it plans to open a nato headquarters in its territory. how do you think this will play out as data on paper says that they respect the one china policy, but it's actions in taiwan. do show whether it was as well, whether or not data opens the office in tokyo, that that's 1st and foremost a decision for the nato member countries and, and appears to be a willing partner for that. but you have to go back to one. you said, i'm not exactly sure the point you were trying to make or frankly to point mr. josh trying to make i yeah, i'm not sure how many people in china could tell them barricades. apart from
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canadians or french from belgians or dr. germans are switched or italians i. so if we want to have a discussion about, i always south career or japan's foreign policies sufficiently independent from united states decision making or does asi on maintain, its own foreign policy. does india maintain its own foreign policy? then we could have that discussion, i'm not really sure about this. you're introducing the ethnic angle into a, you know, i personally don't find that very productive, but the nato alternately is still going to run a north atlantic focused, even if it does open an office and took yeah, well carl, you could speak to what he just started but i just also wanted to ask you japan and south korea and their joint statement said that the tie one issue is vital for their security. but how is it any of their business really? and would they benefit not benefit more from actually having a cooperative relationship with china? exactly. tie one to south korea and japan,
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the space recognize kind of what is the part in china. and there's only one china, legitimate representative of china is the government can be g. so right now it's, it's, it's contradictory to 0 official foreign policy stands by saying the pinewood issue is their own security issue. we all know the reason they're saying that is because you're trying to make this a lot of pressure on those out for you to get involved in your us how to get to scrap. it's a standing piece constitution so. so japan can claim to, to go to allow itself to deployed military to a so called the reference between now and currently entirely one of the pieces straight. i think he's been a benefit to all the country in east asia currently is not china.
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this class for starting award, and i want to talk about more street right now. it's mostly coming from united states and is out well in our you mentioned that china doesn't really operate on demanding a certain id. ology from whom it cooperates. but it's clear that the us, so pre in japan, have their own alliances. however, when it comes to china and say north korea, in these relations, these, there's some help treated in a different way. this double standard, what do you make of that double standard? is it more of an economic or an ideological, this thing here as well? north korea is a bit of an outlier. i mean, is big data. these to china is not comfortable with the fact that the, they're becoming they have become a nuclear nation. was hope that that would be avoided. the last thing that china or
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anybody else, or any country or same person wants, is a nuclear arms race in asia. it would be detrimental to everybody. and at this juncture, it seems like things are slowly moving in that direction. simply because there's fear and distrust, but i, i want to make a comment about my colleagues saying that race is not an issue. it is, i'm an asian. i was called all sorts of names when i lived in the united states. i was born in the united states, the chinese exclusion act, in the 1800s of the in imprisonments of japanese people during world war 2. the fact that there were still laws in the 1950s, it's that asians could not testify in court, nor could they marry outside their own race. african americans and i think hispanics would also say that race is an issue in america, and it is an issue in europe. so i, i present this idea that somebody says poop,
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whose idea that race is not an issue. yes, it is true that most asians cannot tell caucasians, regardless of where they come from, like, but the conclusions are at the top impacts of the pecking order right now. so it's very easy to say that it's not an issue and resent i really, really resent that on a personal basis, having suffered under it. well, ross, i'll give you a chance to respond to that. but i also wanted your comments on what role you think china could play and helping solve the south and north korea issue. since we have seen them play the role of mediators recently as well as well as the minority myself. i've also been on the receiving ends of all kinds of terrible remarks. so yeah, i'm not claiming that these things don't exist. i'm just not sure what role that plays in in trying to decide or to be what, what is inappropriate foreign policy for south korea, japan or what, what those 2 countries for the security relationship is with the united states. and as far as the china and as rolling in the korean peninsula, they are,
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the reality is to, to a great extent are, would say, the current and previous presidents in the united states have put a lot of hope in, in working with china on this issue. uh, unfortunately, no way we were not there in the sense that north korea continues to develop its nuclear programs, and i do agree that would be extremely destabilizing. it could set off a new their race. but there's also an important part to keep in mind when we talk about japan's increased defense spending or south career japan, making statements about the tire entre michelle keep. keep also, keep in mind that those countries have a one china policy, but a part of their policy is that they don't support the use of force to change the status quote either. but north korea is, is so dangerous because it be costly, threatening, offensive actions. whereas when child career or japan, invest in their defense or even other other countries in the region to the
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philippines, or taiwan by spartans from united states. this is really for defensive purposes. and the danger with work career is that they're doing stuff and threatening to attack their neighbor as well. carl, i want to go to you and talk a little bit about the g stuff. and because in recent research, we've seen that the us and u. k is government's confidence rates among the g 7 member states are actually at their lowest one in 2002. there were after high s and in the us the rates as significantly fall in since the bite and administration. so do you think japan and sell career realize what government they are a lying west and do they do you think they see the change in when here when it comes to going from unilateralism to multilateralism? the korea themselves, their government, do not have to make sure the support, you know, only only countries in the g 7 that enjoy a majority confidence in,
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in the united states and based on germany, germany, canada, and maybe united states are on the idols. too much trusting those goals because we all know why it has this was reading and the point is what to say. half of that does not inspire a lot of confidence in us allies and, and we don't even know why it is still going to be the white house 2 years. so i think japan and south korea are also making their own business. that's why they're talking to china right now, because, you know, obviously they don't want to put other things in one basket. well, carl is just real quick as a follow up. do you think that the policy will change? if trump, or a republican becomes president? that is a great question because trauma is the greatest roster is,
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is the doctor he doesn't play by the rules and there's a great possibility that the japan and south korea will have to make a backup plan. so we really don't know why. i think the case of trump presidency is, is more likely that south korea exists and we'll call into some sort of accommodation design. now in our, i want to go to you how interested in keeping ties with china or japan and south korea today. given that china offers of quality and cooperation, as you mentioned rather the subjugation like the less a well, i mean they're both countries are in a different cult quandary. i mean, they depend on the us for the nuclear umbrella and tracked in south korea. the us would literally take over the armed forces in advance of a incursion by north korea. but at the same time, there's a very,
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very intertwined into the chinese economy, both as for market and production. so it's very, very difficult for them to, you know, do this balancing act. the question is, which way are they going to go too far on one side, or, and other side and alienate the other. but, you know, even as a ross is, you know, things that well, i don't understand why, you know, race has anything to do with that. foreign policy, obviously forgets that japan was forced into the plaza chords and 1986. and in fact, their economy today is worth less, that it was in real dollar terms at the time they signed that you asked was not interested in having a competitor and therefore beat japan down. and i don't think that the japanese have forgotten that they may need the us for their perceived interest in terms of protecting their country. but they know full well. it was the west who initially forced the may, j, may dryer restoration by forcibly entering an occupant to taking over ports,
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forcing japan to open up. and then it was later in the u. s. has basically occupied your pounds since 1945. so you know, this idea that the japan loved and are interested in the us. i think you have to look very carefully at the historical roots before you start saying that that's not important or that race doesn't play an issue. the fact is, you know, you hear it all the time and the u. s. o, asians, well, you know, they're, they're good at math, but they're not very creative. now that, that miss has been busted by the fact that the china and other asian nations are plowing ahead in terms of technological innovation. you still have the remnants of bath, it's somehow big, big white brothers should be taken care or, or keeping the brown brothers in control. well, unfortunately we've run out of time, but thank you all for your contributions. carls are near tagging and ross find gold . thank you very much. the cultural cooperation between
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russia and iran helps to counter aggression from the west. those are the words from iran administer of culture to our to show us all and for 2 centuries, we've been facing pressure from western countries. the name of cultural aggression is to level our intellectual power by trying to diminish our historical past and heritage. it is obvious that great nations which have rich cultures would not accept that these womic revolution which took place in iran about 45 years ago, express the disdain of the holy rainy a nation against such cultural aggressions from the west. we're very glad that today to great civilizations, russia indeed are on stand side by side to create a positive future for mankind, such as cultural interactions help us to move forward and they will smooth the way for the development of humanity as a whole. india has worn, developed countries against studying barriers on green hydrogen trade, saying that if new jelly were to implement similar measures,
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then other nations would be the ones in trouble. that yes, can you put up by dispatch, you know, the by both parties. so you to put up patio, so we can put that back next. has been the 1st one. did that do i? if i start putting about yours, you will have you 1st about getting into the biggest market. and the way you deli has been condemning the subsidizing of national industries. and the setting of tax is on green hydrogen in ports, as it cuts into profits. a pop exporters like india, green hydrogen, has lower carbon emissions and is used to make electricity and gas, which is necessary for bolstering the capacity of many industries. economists and policy expert, a cost and dos vouchers for free trade and business. india is consider. oh, when i click on the buy almost entire. yeah, i mean, what do you say that could be rented many countries now at 1st green hydrogen is concerned. it's very,
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