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a time to go to the steel and that that offers the table since september. so a rush is really been the site has been trying to end the war and the one would have been doing it for us. you had us way back in march, march 31st, of course has went out to the peace deal was signed between uh, russian ukraine which is great. and then it a completely ranking on after it was pushed to do so by the, by the ministration. and then prime minister of the you k, uh, worst johnson. so that would save the lives of perhaps $450000.00 or more a radio. and so also soldiers incidentally is, and i do agree with you with lucas, that you know, the pre encounter fencing has been going very badly with ukraine suffering the 71 casualties and treaty one overall more than a respiratory or so this laurie is gonna end up going to do a huge piece the sooner we do into better russia. you know, the key i think is to,
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uh, uh, conclude a free install, a pharmacist agreement. and the warrant gets it for one control. yeah, well, you know, i come across that. so i'm going to look into your, come across this with the korean analogy. is that the problem with using it in this case here is that the major powers all agreed to the, to the pharmacist in, in, on the korean peninsula. i don't see, i don't, i don't see any reason world in the world by russia has to compromise on anything. we had the minutes process. okay. we already know what the negotiating position of the west is. is to lie, lucas? that's correct. the best convenience were violated. so the russians have no reason to trust the west at all. we have to win completely in this war, and unfortunately that's gonna take more lights on the creating. and so, i mean, of course the russians are losing as well, but not as many people as the ukrainian slide. and it's just a tragedy to see this and fold because it is the west pushing the ukrainians into the me credit. they don't care about your grand. i've said it since i've comments in the beginning the for long ago i said they're just using an as cannon fodder
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cause they want to week and russia with sanctions and this works and everything, it's backfire. and peter, nothing has worked at his strength and brushes economy. it's a strength of the alliance with china and other countries, and to show the world that the western hedge and monique is collapsing, nobody trust america anymore. nobody trusts nato people. question why didn't even have nato at this point. it's only causing problems and you know, people are saying that the premiums wanna join, they don't, they don't even have to. busy at this point, because it's already that the west is acting as if they're already part of nato. so there are hardy putting troops in the ground mercenaries from several countries, not just ukraine fighting russia. it's every one fighting russia yet again, i'm so glad. lucas brought that up because defacto ukraine is already a member of nato. but without the article 5 guaranteed, i mean the washington must be popping champagne bottles everyday. so the cravings are willing to die, but we don't have to protect them. this is amazing. and the arms about producers are making tons of money. i mean, this is the,
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the best possible outcome because in the us, there's no obligation. other than to watch, you know, the ukraine grind itself into, into ashes. it's remarkable that they've been able to get an elite and ukraine to go along with this. and even more remarkable, gentleman, is it, you're a goes, is being led by the nose by washington, by a guy that is comatose in the white house. go ahead and geneva. yeah. yeah. you're the babies that nobody cares about to credit them. because i married can don't care about and credit and they to doesn't get to. and even when young goes on that doesn't care about this one citizen because those events easy way being to 5 grand children. that's quite a need. so yeah, so nobody can spend duration, they have no reason to care about good credit. yes. now, ready to fight against the last or go to recall the crime. yeah. and don't last, which a rush does on reset to what that does,
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that does on through is that for good reasons, because the release of the russian speaking people are often boss and also quietly a primary tools reply to the 2014 back to the russian speaking people and the harsh i'm from the boss, really a tech to by the or inquiring and goes out that the there were a bomb, the 14000 people rescued in their last year. so the talk your wish of the have to but that, that's also a reason why the russian named are being in a new credit because to protect the ethnic and russia speaking people the best. don't forget it and know yes. later, later we probably, uh, introducing just uh, the next the, during the next summit there were probably gonna give a huge and even higher commitment to claim for fighting to do last my
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last the big g, but david mailed him a lot of things. i have no doubt about that, but david, but data they will not keep the membership. david, go ahead. yes, absolutely correct. you know, it's a, it's an open secret that you've created. well, never joined data. i mean, certainly as a faculty member, but there's never been any chance for a rated joint data for many reasons of france and germany veto that long ago, back in 2008 until recently they helped the same position. frances recently come around the other side of a turkey and hungry would also join germany and in between the membership at any point, even if the war was over. and it also is a requirement of nato membership that a country need to aspirin. never will, will not have any territory, dispute will on any 4 groups occupying spiritual group. and that could only be achieved with the, by a pre, formerly seed in all, uh,
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territory direction control to russia. so that's the only prospect the i agree with you that for a very technical legal point of view, but i, i, i don't put it past may till breaking its own rules, but you rather reasoning is actually spot on. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're gonna go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on nato's fate. stay with our team, the the,
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the welcome ex, across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter, let's remind you. we're discussing nato state the . okay, let's go back to look is the, the thing that's making the headlines right now and i think it's a intentional war. mongering is the possibility of a false flag. of course, the narrative is the russians for some reason will damage or bomb and you get a power plant in its own possession. i can't really understand the logic of it, and it's never explained in the mainstream media. but when i hear talk of that, i understand a couple of things. nato is losing. i'm not going to say ukraine, because this is nato's war now. so nato is losing ok and it's getting desperate. i think you probably heard of lindsey graham and richard blumenthal talking about is
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a senate resolution that if any kind of new killer action is happens at that plant, it would be a trigger. a article 5 reaction by nato. remarkably blumenthal said. this is, you know that this is not a move out of desperation or panic. well then why did he will use the words desperation and panic? ok. it shows to me that they are moving up the escalation ladder. your thoughts, lucas? yes. anyone's going to do a false flag, it's going to be nato and the ukranian. this are some other people doing it like north strain pipeline. you know, all these other things that i mentioned this as a nation to their duty, given the bombing of the crimea bridge. this is all, this is a sign of someone losing a war. the russians are not doing these kinds of things are not assassinating. people are not sabotaging anything like i mentioned to them before. so if there's a false flag, it's going to 100 percent p, nato and its allies, you know, and that's obvious to everyone who understands how the script displayed. it's always that way, you know,
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the united states or its allies really don't cross this red line and then suddenly it's crossed by the people that they're paying, whether it be the jihadists and syria, or is another country. it's always the same set up and it works all the time. but people are starting to see that this is come on. this is, makes no sense of with the russians through this. they wasn't just selected in bomb word stream to well you d, i mean i'm glad that lucas brought it up because the scenario that we had with um, uh, the use of chemical alleged the use of a dirty bomb and syria. this is exactly the same thing that they're trying to convince get and it's warmer and a new crane. they're talking about it. i think it's more of a ploy by the others. zalinski res, seem to mobilize public opinion as a morgue goes on. and um, and of course it is as a terrified the population um, uh, in that country and further afield. i don't understand why a some kind of nuclear reaction. we wouldn't the wind blow in go east and not only to the west. it doesn't make any sense here, but these people have not been making sense for a very long time. nato is nato is
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a very existence at stake right now. it's put all of its eggs in one basket. yes, you know, we have to understand that each, this type of justice shop can oh, you know, and if you look as since the stopped and go to school every 2 months, you have a big event doctor such as a workshop. i found an old stream that goes all that and so one of you know, don't do pop up your shock into public opinions in the western countries, the fable for supporting the girls. so that's 5 plus one point status of the stucco or joe or follow plan to follow up that can be used as such to create such a shot. you know the 2 pro hawk. oh, the big dresser box. oh, for the queen. basically surely neutral question um it is using on the road,
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which is the case. ready seems to be the name of discount or price you. so a, my view is not possible to do that. so by straight attack and just to follow up like the 2nd was that can happen. uh, due to this, we have to do to come see dr. do the narrative, it's very important called the rest of the course of the voter from tech to do the as you, as the direct to use this information role as a to be kept in the west. this is they need to, so call it back search chart events. yeah, david, i mean, in my introduction i talked about how this has been turned into an existential war for both sides. but there was a craving choice on the part of nato. it's never been explained to western publics what the strategic value is of ukraine. it hadn't been during the cold war after
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the cold war. and a certainly, as i've noticed, that asian value to go to europe and then, and when they throw in the usual in, it's usually they may use platitudes, as you know, it's about democracy. well, lensky. cancel the election. this. there is no political opposition. parties don't exist, there's no freedom of speech, an eccentric, etc. and, but they still call it for all this out. is it, is it is a excess dental for the existence of democracy in the west. in general. i mean, this is this growing absurdity. david. yeah, i mean theres, uh, i mean it was, he put it in to the service that we're just reading democracy in ukraine because there is no democracy in ukraine. you know, zaleski is active to us acetate and imprison all political opposition leaders. he is, uh, you know, albert 11 different political parties, he's taken over all of our positions, tv networks and, and have them broadcast. so you,
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for any problem in the 247. so there's really no democracies all the work we're doing there. and there's no other way, there's no strategic interest at all. there's no national interest at all for us to be involved in ukraine. and in fact, i would argue there's no uh nationalist, there's no security interest for nato to be involved to migrate the emissions. ukraine is kind of referral to, to nato, and it's a worse generally, i mean, overall and support dispute between what rushing you prayed over uh, swap the territory about the size of a baltic nation. so this is a war that has, on only one ending russia overwhelmingly. matches over matches the pre and in terms of military power it's, it's gotten to call and 11 times larger and $35.00 times more territory. it occupies nearly 5th of ukraine and there's no few prey and get any any but back. it is 5 times more people. 5 times more takes our to her systems and combat aircraft. so we need to recognize that the loveliest work it was on the reader. the death and
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destruction you create and the more territory that russia is likely to gain the worse and the worst piece of terms that will be the ultimately being published upon key. well, to say there's only one more step to take outside of this false flag, which i anticipate, sorry, but i do a bit. that's the mindset of these people. but what we have to deal with here is that they will be the last straw is to, you know, allow lensky zalinski to convince nato to join the war. that's the last ultimate step. yeah, i, like i said, i think they're pretty much in the we're already i think we all agree that there are many different cultural now. know what i mean, lucas is that, you know, they go to war with russia and then more size taken out. been berlin then bill and that's, that's what i mean. that's what i mean. yeah, yeah. i mean look, the, i think rush or because you mentioned earlier, this is an essential threat to russia. everything else is just made up in europe is not brand by proven. he's not going to take over the entire continental,
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like hitler or something like this. this is all propaganda and, you know, yeah, and this is, this wouldn't be the final step if nato goes too far, but i don't think putting them on to do that. he has never said he wanted to do it, no and saying, i know, saying commentator a political analyst is saying that he would do it or could even do it by the way. so you know, that wouldn't be the final thing, but i don't see that happening and you know, with natal push that far. i think say what i think the united states, one of the greatest things we're good at is destroying everything. lying and stealing and cheating. us, you know, so many of our agents would say, and it's just a very bad situation to see this loss of life for absolutely nothing but special interest. so i just hope that this more and sooner than later i hope it ends within the next year. i would think, i don't think it's going to be another vietnam for $1015.00 a rock or whatever the case. let's hope that's not. i don't know if it's even possible to sustain it that long at this point. but yeah, the nato will do whatever they have to do to try to defeat russia and they will fail in my opinion. yeah, they do
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a d in the process. they destroyed themselves here. and, you know, we've, we've talked about the lack of democracy in ukraine, but it's damaging civil liberties in the west as well. i mean, people being canceled and shadow band and all of this. i mean, i mean, i was banned from twitter for quoting brock obama on about you crate to argue i'm going to, i'm a conservative. i'm not, i don't walk around it, quoting brock obama, but when i said, well, this is what obama said about ukraine and i was taken off. thanks to you on it. i'm from you on. i am back on twitter again. but i mean, again a, they're, they're turning this into some kind of moral crusade when it should be about security. yes, that's, that's very clear that it sorts of collapsed onto west on the venue with this great in the war. because i wrote an optical know about that play space in which the extent of this was this was mainly the collapse of the rest time. you know,
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it's because we collapse the piece, you know, it was for instance the was created in order to make piecing, rock, and now in the 90s, making holes. so that's a very big contract diction. same for you, my wife know last, last week it was stored in the video about his ball that came from my task rest. joe. but the main newest was not desponding. it draws it draws baptist ball reading books. they say draws the drawers the, the account of these exxon's, the next even the president said, then they just have to be next us. next you are in the, you know, quite so wednesday landscape. these accounts have in each for democracy, there's not to were up in the west of need. yeah. that's the default or something to see jason that that's why or do so
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a narrative about the value is just action. i'm so i, david 11 last question for you. how much of an impact is it's going to have on the 2024 election? we have about a minute left. well, i think it's, it's going to be a huge it back to 2024 election. uh the binders ration is uh, secretly trying to wind down or uh, trying to establish the security guarantee for uh you pray. and that would replace the needle membership and that would only be be achieved out really goes unity. so the problem is the, there are so far behind the power curve. uh, they haven't been negotiating with russian and all that we've been through the diplomatic separate chapter with russia on the republican side, the 3 leading republican presidential candidates are also for him any longer, any pre in trying to re establish a i'm going to come with a better relations with russia, interest, us national security interest and so that we can counter re focus on trying to, we should not be involved in this, this work. oh, well i, i, well, i warned for
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a very long time that russia gate would bleed into policy and this is what we get. ok, a fantasy creating a tragedy. that's all the time we have gentlemen. want to take my guess in salt lake city, brake and in geneva. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our d. c. a next time. remember across the top of the, the in the city where the temperature is pre degree higher already from the neighboring down woods. you know, why? because i think down ships haven't chucked up the trees, but in tucker in the name of development. and he's our 1st to become a skeptical like a single we are all going to your organization just covering all the greens with
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the phone. so when you distract nature, it takes every range of the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the graphic images that had this. 3 civilians were killed and thousands wounded including 3 children and the latest ukrainian strikes the russians. don't. yes. what probably the most go sounds the along the key of time to attack the examples.
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yeah, a nuclear power plants unplugged the i a d. a. refute since the landscape, similar claims against russia, reports as part of its defense committee, chief pulled on london to send troops into you, frame and spine against russia. has the head of a claim. you're. there's already a plus china of top diplomats close on japan and south korea to join forces and unite to revitalize the asian continent and was away from western portland. and guess shed a different take on the issue that i've tried. many people in china, if you tell them ara came into the park for canadians or french from belgians or dodger germans or switzer. it's holly and i think you have to look very carefully at the historical roots before you start saying that that's not important or that race doesn't play an issue. fact is, you know, you hear it all the time and us the,
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it's 10 pm. hey, in the russian capital, and this has all the international with a very late as well as news updates. it's good to have you with this top story. there's now 3 people have been killed in the don't. yes. for public, with dozens wounded and ukrainian strikes on several cities in the don't, yes, with public of the inquiry and missiles heads being regional capital, don't you ask? leaving to dead on 3 wounded, including a child. the attack was carried down with nato supplied weapons. according to local authorities, ukrainian shedding also hit the small town of the son of a ty and it on yes, damaging a lo redway station and directly striking this stupid lock is no title to you for being with forces. as i saw such local reports at this, why b as hug as massive and neighboring, lucky after a hospital has been partially destroyed with 8 other health care facilities damaged
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by ukrainian shilling. 68 people were wounded as small from a correspondent states we. this is the off the mazda of the ukranian, shedding of a hospital in lucky. i've gotten that on yet square public. the attack took place on tuesday night, and as you can see, it's called extensive damage to the exterior of the hospital, with many of the windows blown out and calls screwed across the floor. now of course, a talking a hospice will come to choose a war crime, but what kinds of committed here on a daily and even hourly basis using western supplied weapons. but the western media studiously ignores them with a blanket silence over the wall. crime is committed by you create new forces pro ukrainians are claiming that a hospice was damaged. often imo, dump was struck, but there was no i might dump and no military presence. this was a residential area, one of many which have come under attack on a daily basis for the last 9 years. will cause and locals expressed anger at tuesday's attack. not joseph, still. when the showing began,
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i was on my way up to the trauma department. i myself was from intensive care. i didn't manage to get there. i heard to rumble, since the military mountains, that you it, the told me enough to go anywhere and land the ground at the showing of starting. so that's what i did. there was no panic, no hysteria, all the shaking of the walls. there's a free hits in a row, but in the end, we survived the showing begin at 9 pm. there was a noise was very loud. everyone quickly fell to the floor and tried to run to the basement, but the wall had collapsed and the basement caved in. our shelter was gone. we and our neighbors stuck together and did our best to support each other. according to local officials, at least $49.00 separate attacks took place across the don't yet for public over the last 24 hours. using $281.00 pieces, one munition, this, it included
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a mixture of both crowds and they tell you supplied weapons. but the war crimes continue with schools marketplace is hospital was on people's homes. among those targets aids in ukrainian attacks. this is steve sweeney and the don't. yes, republic for all the ukrainian forces, also shelves. civilian areas in this city of clements could have been naya and the la guns were public worries. one person was killed into others injured. meanwhile rushes defense ministry has reported that a 165 ukrainian soldiers have been killed in the past 24 hours and look down, skin loan. the criminal spokes person has said little possible measures of being taken to prevent kids planned attack on the example. don't see a nuclear power plant, so have to be had advise it to the general direction of rushes. atomic energy agency wound off the attack by ukrainian forces and was just touched on the appears on the situation is quite tense. says there is indeed a great threat of sabotaged by the key of regina. the sabotage may be catastrophic and its consequences which the key of receiving has repeatedly demonstrated. it's
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reckless a band. and most recently, we saw it during the bombing of the cost of hydro electric power plant, which also had her wrist that consequently so that's why obviously all measures are being taken to counter this threat. meanwhile, ukraine into and how's the case must go off an electric planned attack on the plaza facility, which is already on the rushing control. just navigation which has ways to move and a few eyebrows that has a nice little is if the we now has information from our intelligence that the russian military has placed objects resembling explosives on the roof of several power units of this operation. nuclear power plant to watch that perhaps to simulate an attack on the plant. perhaps they have some other scenario. but in any case, the world seen inside cancer. but seeing that the only source of danger to the separation nuclear power plant is russia and no one else. russia has 0 reason to blow up a nuclear power plant under their own control. ukraine is about to blow up
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a nuclear power plant to accelerate the conflict into a full scale nato regime change declaration of war. evil craven transparent suicidal. is that for rosie will be the worst and most obvious falls flag by the us government in history. the world may come to regret having allowed the us to get away with so many crimes and lies like weapons of mass destruction in iraq, north stream, etc. humanity may now pay the ultimate price for such foolishness as the landscape cheers as russia of a plans both flag operation. many have questions for kids. among them all kids role in the sabotage of an old stream pipelines as well as who to masika and the reason destruction of the cohort could them. meanwhile, international atomic energy agencies has rough on gross the size. neither he nor his team have found any evidence to support the for any leaders claims. very said the permanent mission of the i a there,
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i have been in contact with them today if just a few hours ago. and we are aware of these a few mation stacy statements from both sides in our latest having inspections. we haven't seen any mining activity, but we remain extremely alert. steer political, all of this down for me, us marine bryan ballistic phase. the desperation of t as and as west them back is could force them to results to nucleus sabotage. the offensive is not going well for you crime. it is new crime that is desperate to craig's sponsors that are desperate. so it seems a painfully obvious, but this is just us using this, this old trick that they've used over and over again. then they're ukranian, proxies are using it yet again, in regards to this out for us, you and to clear out on the actions that in crane is compelled to take,
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makes no sense in the context of ukraine's actual best interest or is that, isn't it interesting that it's russia accused of violating ukraine sovereignty when it is the collective west using ukraine. in this way, i've noticed in the western media that they're not talking about the international atomic energy agencies. observations that there aren't any explosive devices at the nuclear power plant. why are they leaving that out? i think, but west still feels that they have dominion over global information space. and that no matter what actually takes place on the ground, their media reaches all corners of the globe and they can spin. it's any way that they want the break square piece set to introduce a new currency box by gold, in contrast to the credit fund to us dolah with countries line and got to join nick where we can get initiative the brakes gone through so planning to introduce a new trading car and see which will be backed by gold. more and more accounts rece recently expressed desire to join brakes or the decision comes
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a month ahead of schedule. the line summit in johannesburg, south africa. so he won't countries of since the interesting bricks membership on this new parents, the implementation wash is for our ministry, his day to the day 5 for can stage show enthusiasm, the groups expansion fail. so it'd be on a russia africa, somebody's agenda in the end of july. as of now, the brick squeak remains comprised of brazil, washer india, china, and south africa. for my statistician general of south africa, poly la hotel stays the gold buttons, currants. they will facilitate the advancement of developing countries avoid using the will stand up. we have been for almost 40, pretty faded, yes, analyses 90 day to and this was dropped. and we have seen the consequences. but to do that you of the said to video being countries. when did all i say i don't, that doesn't stand out in board,

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