so massa, the loss is 4321, direct case, it's direct stages. but the question remains to what it looks like. minifee victory, who arguably victory a tool for ukraine is now a distant and to use every prospect. and the more apparent that becomes the hard, the, it will be to maintain a united need to front more, i guess the of the, from new guns region read time, the crumbling spokesman says it needs to put pressure on target key to release leaders of the torres as of a tale and they were a p o. w was held by russia, but now they being released back to you, craig, pest, golf, added the act, actually goes against what was agreed upon in a previous prison. a swap between moscow key has an incorrect a resurrection, you distort, say, no credit. return of the is off leaders from turkey,

a to ukraine is a direct violation of the terms of the existing agreement is a way to more over and they have in this case both ukrainian side and the turkish side violated the condition. is the decision to extradite the is off leaders to zelinski in violation of the agreements is of course directly linked to the failures of the cranium counter events over the failures that the troops of the key diversity of my food. now face every day, moment of enter key itself, and i'm being a member of nato in this way. shows that solidarity with the alliance. the decision comes on the hills are presidents that landscapes visit, talk to you on friday to make this count about the other one on topic. of course, the conflict in ukraine, cabs nato membership bid on the black source drain deal with the turkish leda. hopes will continue with us and the my heart of the black sea green initiative, which delivers and excited 3000000 tons of grain to those a more need any yeah, through the talk you straight to time, which would expire on july. the 17th will be extended again. i believe that all

sides would act with a sense of global responsibility for the most part. there was a great deal of the deal with you so much that has been discussed with the great deal security concerns regarding the black sea. and general nato ascension has been on the tables. but according to what the charges president said, he also said that the prisoner swap is on our agenda. it is amongst our top priority matters that are going to be discussed. so the level of the big jewelry that remains there is because of a number of reasons. firstly, these, the things that were discussing with the credit in presidents will be discussed with the russian president vladimir george. and he is expected to pay a visit to turkey later next month. and based on those meetings, we can have a better and clear understanding as to what the roadmap will be new in forward. however, i do want to emphasize a little bit on the nature of ascension. i'll be at the kremlin, might not,

well come, nato and a section for ukraine. we also know how the target president operates. so although the church presidents that i'm kind of a general doesn't propose you claim joining nato, it also does not want to bring the time when we boss just talked to based on how under the has essentially active in the past. we can also assume, at least until this meeting takes place with the russian president, that's much of what on cut a says the should be taken with a grain of salt. this could also mean based on what charges channel as then experts have been discussing. is this meeting with the landscape and this potential meeting with waterman pollution in the upcoming month? an attempt that piece talks. we do know that in order for ukraine to join nato, the more or the conflict needs to come to an end. and that could be what is on, on cut his mind, the turkish present has been adamant and has been very vocal about bringing an end to the conflict and focusing on reconstruction, which was also

a topic of discussion. and the meetings here is stumble. but just a few clicks away for you at all. if you don't to call them, you can read about how conservative voices in america have found themselves essentially being can sold from speaking of the prestigious stanford university in california. but that is not the case for members of ukraine's extremist, as all fatality. and they essentially had the red carpet rolled out for them at stanford. read more about that at all to dot com are for now here on the program, i knew that his legislation in kenya has kicked off of nationwide protests a police using a tear gas and warning shots to disperse the crowns of thousands of taken to the streets across the country, protesting a new finance build, a will boost taxes. while the government says the increase is needed to support a tough economy, the international monetary fund has promised the country hundreds of millions of dollars in new loans. the president, the growth hosing new budget falls in line with the expectations of the i am at

the is the a former prime minister. i didn't know he's behind a petition to else the nation's current president. so now is the time for change to me and the time for talking has already ended. it's action time. the constitution states that the common citizens have the authority to end this government through the canyon citizens can now to the power to the rightly to serve in person. we all know the use tricks to get into power. we're starting the process of taking power

from them. or can you is faced with an ongoing economic crisis and a significant poverty levels and essentially the sol, compounded by enormous public debt that equals 2 thirds of his g d p. the government is also attempting to scale down and spending as part of a wider effort to balance the books. while the i m. f, has expressed its full support for all the new tax hikes in the capital city. no, the only place that experience the unrest, right, that mom boss, so that is i can use 2nd largest city. so we hit the streets, we spoke to the locals, and as it turned out, all the opinions of fairly polar progress, we protesting against the government, the economy is difficult, even paying rent is a problem. before going back home, i have to think because my child lost me when i got them to wait. when i come from, well, by the end to this point, kenya is not the can you?

we knew before, things have changed a lot. let me see. so 14 month i did not support this pro, which is because it is, has no business. we just have to suffer even if we don't take looms. now, many loans were taken by the previous government. we just have to work hard to now funds to groups, fluid and all table by which is the police causing chaos. they're also citizens of gain. yeah. and we suffer when we get to the same shops. we went to kind of cringe it peacefully, but they came to disrupt this peaceful protests. i mean, we're getting her to lot and we do not have peace. the many jania isn't a bad place. this presidents lie to us. and his manifesto is because they promised us having once he took the oath, it is only baba who can rescue audio and know some of us are hurting what keep not everyone has money in their wallets. you promised us at the bottom of the economy, which we have confirmed to lie to us. i just support this process as long as it's peaceful, sustainable development, climate finance and problems facing the global style. so just some of the issues

high on the agenda for g 20 nations. i made a 2 day summit in western india and that's where we'll find our correspondent going to ensure as a to z o going to n t o you 20 is taking place under india, a series of g 20 meets with all 500 vault assistance. bez, deputy messed video officials from around 6 t cities in the world. this is set to be one of the biggest air board you 20 meets takes place and the ranger mode. these home state dropped with a focus on sustainable development, climate finance, and building climate responsive and resilience. cities packed through the problems of the globe. and so the very different from that are the best out of the global or not. and that is because of a variety of reasons which we all know. so therefore, it makes more sense that we discuss more about the problems related to the global

solid and focus on shared interests. because the problems are far with the, the problems of the sources. the problems of lack of capacities visit are very similar in the countries in the building so so we need to share these best practices, infinity and also in what we're trying to address these problems. but despite mass from across the world engaging in closed door sessions on key priority areas, to be included in the you 20 community inside a c that may not be one owing to differences over the war in ukraine. communicated remains a challenge ahead of the final g. 20 heads of states summit that mr. moody with host on the 9th and 10th of september. and you has made its voice clear or multiple times. that is to set aside decisive issues. i'm focus on real issues that are leading toward, especially the often forgotten global south. but the west is assistance on housing

. it's wait a little bit really thing was going to force a consensus based on cell phones of nations in y'all's role as a shower and as a balancing force, he's going to be the key ruins and sharma all the guards which are off a new delhi has a slammed, also for us we correspondents of violent propaganda against indian officials. the ministry of external affairs, accused canada, or of quote, misusing freedom metix and expression of what legitimizing terrorism. the issue is most about freedom of expression, but it's misuse of advocating violence for propagating separatism and legitimizing terrorism. this is what we would like to emphasize, these posted inciting violence against different months on a diplomatic premises, abroad, unacceptable, and we condemn them in the strongest terms with respect to kind of de months has been strongly taken up with the canadian or far as he's both in new delhi and then also what we have told them the governments of canada to ensure the safety of our

diplomats under diplomats emissions and canada as well that just intrude or profit off that critique of saying his country is always been acting against terrorism. however, it comes as members of the highest on movement, bad distributed posters, advocating violence towards the in the, in different amounts and promotion for an upcoming, riley india and administered external affairs issued a warning about the consequences to bilateral ties by allowing these controversial materials and the suggestion money to have requested our partner countries like canada, the united states, the u. k. in australia, not to give space to the color studies. this will affect our relations, will raise this poster issue with the governments of these countries. and we'll call this time you have us on a, it's a separate us. i've been speaking to craven, s no state for seats in india. and while the hell us down the political party makes up only a small minority in the indian parliament, the assassination, their prime minister in there, a gun. the in 1984 was a tribute. it's

a one of the members. and earlier i spoke to i did come on a job editor in chief of provides the india hoops playing that kind of this attitude to seek separatism. is truly linked to hoops over both of support and because in the 1980s there was this calistoga movement, a separate stage, the job. many of those people who run away from their demo set this down and down there in toronto, in ottawa, in the vancouver in our little cities off in canada. now they also constitute the major vote. the bank of many of these canadian politicians. um, uh so right now, so hold on a 2nd, hold on a 2nd. now you're now you're getting onto the good stuff right now. are you talking about, but of votes voters, a bit of politicking here, that there were so many seeks now that they could have some sort of influence with the, the political setup? is that what you're saying?

right, right. i mean, you see the influence india in both those holding and now they have a prime minister of indian origin. you'll see of that kind of a in fluids, india, and both those have in the us. the ice president of us is also a pottery of indian origin. so india in india, in bias for our indian expect periods of fairly rates in these countries. did they find the politicians for the elections then pulse matter? no, unfortunately, or fortunately, you down into the maximum presence of being deals and those of the seats and seats have, well not all seats, but a section of the seats, the site a separate state movement in the east. it goes off. we are still hard not inside india, but you hear the echo still in canada to new york, quite a protest that's got that in front of the united nations headquarters the mile and

they're going to end to us support for israel and as decades long conflict with palestine, the demonstration was organized in response to israel is a raid on the west bank city of jeanine recently which reportedly left the 12 bed including 3 kids for their own law, for the operation and branded by the u. n. chief is the west of violence, the region is seen in years while the israel study was targeting militants. some of those in in new york disagreed with that claim. the senior people are not put down because the line to bear courage, the palestinian people are put down, but you went towards the palestinian people struggle. the only thing that stands in its way is we are moto, the united states. we will continue to stay until the all mighty with this compassion bring ca, pre pals. so i do this entire thing. we can embrace the palestinians that we were 400. so it was the most of them provided for us a home that was your name. they just the package you name it every time they claim

it's because they're defending themselves. meanwhile, the us plans to move ahead with building it's new embassy in jerusalem. and of course, that help provide the public policy, you know, authority with chick who is washington of having a quote, policy atlantic station on a pod side. it's claims the construction will happen on land taken from them by force. do united states through it's illegal decision to recognize jerusalem as the capital of an occupying power and to build an embassy on private property and endowments lands, which was seized in 1948 from palestinian owners, among whose heirs are residents of jerusalem. and american citizens violates international law and supports policies of annexation and apartheid. instead of policies that serve, adjust and last and peace. it was that back in 2017. then president donald trump announced plans to relocate the embassy from tennessee to jerusalem off to officially recognizing it as the as ready capital. naturally,

the move spock theory all across the arab. well, now the status of jerusalem has long been a subject of dispute. israel's control the city since the end of the 6 day war and 1967. however, the palestinians considered east jerusalem as occupied territory. so we heard from some of those living in that city problem next to the american decision to move its embassy contradicts american foreign policy. especially since more than the embassy and the to stay in solution. and now the biggest tragedies that they even move the embassy onto the listing and land owned by police. see me. this is even bigger contradiction. and violation in the middle of the embassy was already built on palestinian land. and even if it was intended beef, it's still on palestinian land because teller, babies the 1st of on that. but then these are in the occupation to rise for the support and international military, financial ann marie towel from america. america is the tip of display and the struggle with palestinians and everything done by america with the arab states and

regime somebody is for recruiting the, controlling the political decisions, which is always in the face of the occupying style about what will be the, the us is the one encouraging the occupied to break international law and keeps the patient state above international law. the jerusalem isn't occupied city, according to international law, you as brags about democracy, the right of self determination and international law. then submit to this breach and establish presence and present listing and allowing people that if i be a legal director of an organization, naturally fighting to stop that, the embassy being built there. so how to be shot. so it's, but us decision on the matter is actually not yet set in stone as we find the objections to that. so are you sort of just as well to the u. s. embassy and department of state in washington a with approve documents of cover documents that proves the publishing and ownership of this specific is site on behalf of hands of the owners of

a senior refugees. a. we claim that these properties were illegally confiscated and seized by the it's really a hurt is on the inside of the law and, and hopefully they won't get to the stage of a asking for the payment to build on the side a the case is still ongoing. it also, is there any sort of these has made they have made a decision on that massive planning, but still there is a stage of us, of sort of these asking to issue a parent to build their uh do the diplomatic compound on the site. so we hopefully, if it wish and it would be appropriate not to go forward with it. besides the answer that we got from the us department of state was that they haven't made up their mind yet. no final decisions were made

and it's through this process. the history of the land ownership on the side will be seriously close to the police and powers have once again unleashed that by phone this time. and then an attempt to disperse a riley and the owner of a dime, a trout a who died in 2016 while in police custody. had the brother of the dead man, a scene out number, and then hand coughing, taken away by police who claim he has passed. the public officials usually assigned to another mine and been detained by french authorities. a quote of the media reports which say the riley gathered more than 2000 people at class, the laughter, probably. the frosts lit up over the last 2 weeks as a nation wide chaos erupt after a police officer, faithfully shaw, 15 of algerian defend during a traffic stop. the killing highlighted brought a concerns about racial profiling and police brutality in the country. un human rights committee, easy to stipend, saying the country must address the excessive use of force by police and quote,

the systemic causes of racial discrimination in an effort to avoid further riots and frankly, keep the nation from going up in flames. french authorities have now placed a temporary bond on public robins. we spoke about this with a alexi pool on a french john list and co founder of the modem of their own. he says a francis divulge from a beacon of freedom that emma griffin's good coal home now to a nation of fruit pallets the 1st to me. so i bet the whole world remembers that france has always been a country of human rights declaration, a country as a country with the right of asylum. today's france is a country of police brutality, but no questions are being asked by the authorities not by the minister of the interior drill darma mean nor by president emmanuel. my crone. this means that there is no desire to change what is getting worse and worse, and this is very disturbing. the response of the state is

a rejection of reality. neither the un nor the you are interested in how france uses its police force. so this is an international problem. the problem of racism within the french police runs deep and this is not yesterday's problem. in general, the french government does not want to offend the police and policemen. in france, there is real power of the police to indicate which dictates the course of the ministry of the interior. in short, whether it is the prefect of paris or diminished curve, or the interior or a manual ma crone, no one has the political will to address the issue of racism in france, the authorities cover up the fact of police brutality. this is what this talent is real, it's documented. but the role of the police is to protect the people. francis democracy is in a bad state, a manual macross response to the recent protests was an immediate censorship of social media. freedom of speech is no longer guaranteed. freedom of assembly is not

guaranteed. in fact, freedoms are shrinking everywhere. it was just a couple of weeks ago that our french president macro on the suggested from so should be invited to the upcoming bricks summit in south africa ruptures. so their laptops addressed at phones probably wouldn't be welcome. so microns hopeful insight never came to fruition, more details online at all to talk on the which i thought that was the little thing is just that. i'm still a little the slug restaurants cuz right now let you and they want us to, to look, you agree, miss stella to post the is all the at the is that i, that's a get a minute come other students need which is easy to so when the can increase, of course to ensure material, which is a 1000000 love,

some wound and i didn't like the law, but the once again is ordered by michel square. well, in the you label. so because i mean the, we did present to not revisit the results. ok, 20 and the to bundle will just ideal solution for short term transform which way, which insidiously simply process the

there's an old saying, war is hell. it is hell. it's full of death and destruction and the worst of human kind. in the meantime, war is more complicated than most people realize. there are legal and illegal ways to go about waging war and war crimes and crimes against humanity are all too frequent. perhaps more importantly, the effects of war on the human psyche can be devastating. just imagine the effects work and have on the people fighting them when those people understand what's happening. and when they have an appreciation for the legal justification for war, it's called moral injury. i'm john kerry. ok, welcome to the whistle blowers the

. 2 2 2 2 2 matthew, who is a former soldier, a former diplomat and a whistleblower in 2007 after his 2nd deployment to a rock post traumatic stress disorder. moral injury and severe depression took over his life and he began drinking heavily. thoughts of suicide became his constant companion. in 2012, he stopped drinking and sought to take care of his mental health. in 2016, he was diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury in addition to the moral injury and depression. and all of this came after his whistle blowing from 2002 to 2008. matthew worked on the afghanistan and iraq moore's on police and operations issues at the pentagon and the state department interspersed during that period. matthew was an active duty member of the us military. he took part in the american occupation of iraq, 1st in sola, heading province with a state department, reconstruction and governance team. and then in unbar province, as

a marine corps company commander in 2008. he was assigned to afghanistan, but in 2009 he resigned in protest of the american escalation of the war there. since then, he's been a senior fellow with a center for international policy. matthew, who is bravery in standing up to the mike of the american military, industrial complex has been recognized repeatedly by his peers. he is the recipient of the written our prize for truth telling. and he was named as a defender of liberty by the committee for the republic. matthew ho, welcome to the show. thanks so much for being with us. hi, john. it's good to see you. thank you for having me. i'm very happy to see you, matt. i, i want to begin by telling our viewers that you and i are friends and i am thrilled that you're here with us. your story is so important to tell. and at the same time, it's also very complicated. your progressive politically. you are also a patriot. so let's begin with your career. tell us how you began in the military and then how you transitions to the state department. sure, and yeah,

it is complicated like most everyone's lives are complicated, not nothing is, are really straightforward. and even years afterwards and you look back, you wonder how does that happen? how do i get to that point? how am i here now? so um, but i graduated college, i worked for a little bit in finance, so i was bored. this was the late ninety's. i want to do something big with my life . want to be part of something important or do something serious one to challenge myself. i end up joining the marine corps and i went to officer candidate school on january of 1998. uh sir, was it that was an open house. japan for a number of years, was in the pentagon, and then ended up going to the rock wars. and after being in iraq where it's twice moved over to the state department where i was appointed as a foreign service officer. and he was in my that 3rd deployment to where the time to afghanistan with the state department as a political officer. when i was, you know, morally and, you know, actually broken, the dishonest,

these are the wars was, was, was crippling me. i was, uh, so you mentioned no suicide or at that point because of what i had done, what i had taken part in. and so seeing the escalation of that war and afghanistan by the obama administration, i chose to resign rather than they continue to take part in the wars. and when i did so i did so to quit, to walk away from it all, hoping i could leave it all behind. and here we are almost 14 years later, still talking about it because the reality is the wars are still going on. and even in afghanistan, where there's no more american troop presence, the war goes on. yes. so the asking people, the suffering goes on, is just a different phase of that work. you're absolutely right. you and i are similar in that following the 911 attacks. we wanted to serve our country, we believed that we were the good guys and we were supportive, at least early on. we both drew a line that iraq, however, i worked on the rock war from ca headquarters. i was opposed to it from the

beginning. you were on the ground in iraq. you were opposed to it from the beginning. tell us about that experience and about what you saw there. all right, so excuse me. so i left up to a rock. so i was a pretty junior officer in a very high level office. and so i had probably more than awareness of what had been occurring and the distance between what was officially being said about the war and what was actually occurring in a rock. so in that 1st year, so as, as the white house, the pentagon and the major media reported that things were going okay, it wasn't so bad, it just took me to time to shake out. i had the intelligence in front of me as well as colleagues, friends of mine in the marine corps who were in a rock when, well, at all. so by the time i get to a rock my 1st time in spring of 2004, i had this idea that this war, of course, at that point we understood to be

a lie. we understood. there were no weapons of mass destruction. there were no ties to off high to etc, but also to this war was a colossal era for american foreign policy. that what we had done was catastrophic, not just for the rocky people, but for the entire region in the repercussions. we're going to be something that the united states is going to have to deal with for years and years to come. so you look at it from that, that policy perspective of what we did and what resulted from that cause. so many fires costs, so much instability that you almost have to look at it and say ma'am, was planned because how could i be so incompetent? but i think is both you and i, john. no, yes, that incompetency. certain that in competency certainly does exist in those i'm full display in the rock war. i think one of the things that we think you are landry is that even though you disagree with it. you.