really say climate change, but they explain their everyday difficulties to you. and by listening to their everyday to speaker, these maybe have person exposed to what's happening globally. i used anthony realize that it's happening because of climate change. so people don't know what i, this is the stands for. they really do not understand what golf steps for, or what u. n. s. c, c, c, or mediations desk but, but they are the ones who are feeling that in fact of our injustice is being done to the environment. so it is their language that is most important. and what is this you say is exactly what my father was. i see what if this is the safe is exactly what my fishermen are saying, but they just have different language. and finally change has so much and even

back on our everyday lives, on the way to establish human rights. the giving it to human language is not, they are not speaking about the injustices both to the environment and as a result of the people who leave on, on those lines, you often use the concept of eco side in your public work. how do you define it? as we hear every day we are losing forest area, which is the size of the 2 guys. it says what we're doing to the green color of this one is not taken by paper side. and they said this because we are doing week for knowledge about the consequences of all over. we know that if we destroy far as the challenges of climate change, we increase many for still we are doing a long defend,

goes for which alternatives exist. so this is equal site because what you're distracting, cannot be this stored very easy. you god create to forward is to god create 30. you can create a risk stadiums. you get the houses of down ships, but you can't recreate before. it is too god to recreate dirty back and you know, that you're actually destroying something that you're going to retreat and this destruction we'd have serious negative impact on some communities in some parts as well as thinking about that. i think one of the problems here is that the impact will be most noticeable in the indigenous community. just people whose to leave of the land, but people in bigger cities and you know, who don't have any trees around them. they sort of, uh, don't even notice that apart perhaps from the, you know, the quality or where or the quality of water, which in many cdsi is more or less

a cube right now. how do you think it could be made relate simple to be sort of an average urban citizen or on the earth to make him not only be strictly concerned about the you know, the, disappearing for us somewhere. and let's say him in south america. but actually to be concerned about what surrounds him on the, in the medium or her on an immediate basis. it in my part of the word, it is no longer an issue of ad strictly connect the someone with the adversity big because i am leaving tucker, the most populated. got the word and it is often ranked as one of the most unbelievable cities of the word. so the cd to and there's

here of so the reach be been here. so are facing the impact of petition. so be, but what should be leaving in the capital of bangladesh. also even have the same voice in the air that someone else's inhaling as so when we contaminate to environment, when we destroy nature, but even better to think it says by everyone. and also to answer your question, this time we are having cds, food prices in the world. and if we destroy our exit, go to your lead. if it destroyed our tradition, let us knowledge around food production the time i think trips become even more acute and see via for you. because you then become dependent on for being produced as way, which is not something that's a sustainable. i live in the city where the temperature is pre degree higher

already from the neighboring down woods. you know, right? because the other townships having chopped up the trees but in tech got in the name of development and he's our person to become a got to do like a single or we are all going for our, the lives ation discovering all degrees with the concrete. so when you distract nature 8, they certainly range of whether you are reach are or it doesn't really the way i living here was one the and then uh, something in it was to argue with this faces because sure the impact is spelled because ultimately we have one plan that's in habit, but the impact is different uh for people in bangladesh. then let's say uh for people in the united states. uh, which brings me to this old question of who should be responsible for making and finding those great changes that are necessary?

correct. me from wrong, but as things stand now about 10 percent of the world's population is responsible for nearly half of the global emissions. that secret may become even more lopsided if we factory and older production change. for example, you know, products manufacturers and bugs i've asked for the consumption in great britain and then you add all the shipping and then shipping back of the garbage. and sometimes, you know, people including myself come to the conclusion that this logical movement in some of the rich countries has become a way of cleaning the own land at the expense of somebody else's land. i'm exaggerating here, where you are a lot of totally exaggerating, that is the t, v have or embrace and they can all make more that perhaps is not delivering. it's not deliberating for the majority of the, but it is deliberating for

a few or the guys. and that is why we always see that the more stronger our d mind, the mind of the most vulnerable countries due to climate change, is getting stronger for a transition from fox. since we're to renew it with the more resistance we are actually facing from default where the industry, because they're economics and oregon nomics are clearly different. having said that, if you look, this part has happened this year in the u. k. excels the sheep steps, you'll get the but have to read so that these other proceedings that so they have provided me in the developed country. it is a notion that is we lot dots the lines already even a doctor of their lives. they'll be able to deal with it. i don't think the magnitude of the problem is not address from the core really in the office to deal with it at these even gone the foot in the u. k,

it is not the temperature. i use that one test and with this one has to on the left is the fact that dissipated country which is known for his demo. gracie had 3 prime ministers in just 2 or 3 months. so this, it cannot make marco's is not totally destroying the nature. it is also a lot delivering to the needs of the developed countries because of study, exploit date to be nature. and painting that me being in the us are, in, cannot here already in russia. i'm not be, you know, impacted by it. that perhaps is not going to happen. we have to take lessons from what is happening and you get and all the natural disasters that are happening around us and then not happening only india volume. the dish pack is done oriented because they're happening in the government frontiers. oh absolutely. but they're not affecting those developed countries as much as some of the developing turret punches of you mentioned them. maybe i'm teaching benches,

but i think when it comes to various it international, environmental for the most common dynamic is still for the developing nations. are the most effective nations to sort of try to your trip wealthy countries into providing some money while the developed countries still continue with um, sort of exporting the environmental am front of the policies onto the developing world. and sometimes it looks really like a key back payment for the preservation of the status quo. and both sides agree with that. now you are arguing for change of paradigm. how do you think it could be implemented as who should be the initiators or that change? it is not only some money that is being demanded, it is being demanded on clear grounds of responsibility. the account is the one to accept the term liability, but in the day it is the damage that is being paid for the loss that that is being

bars. and the loss is actually being caused by the very exploitative model of development of the depth. and that's gonna be said also, it is not only a gun for money, it is also a call for system change as yet as you have the right to please. and we have seen that before the war, there was j. j. the changes started very slowly. the, for example, or germany gave a declaration that could be, there's a lot of use in court anymore. and then you get also in the call that was headed in scotland. press tide sort of sees out from good. but then because of pressure coming from that every nothing was on. so the compromised language was phase down. so the problem is we are asking for

a system change, but we are doing that being under the influence of those who are responsible for this, for example, it uses the solution to. busy that the us base to the call uh parts line they, they have many players from the far situated industry. they konami is dependent on the far since when industry, when you fight against malaria, you don't really take what you do is we can do with water. we have to take a very short break right now, but i think we'll be back to the discussion in just a few moments station, the, [000:00:00;00] the,

[000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome back to all the parts with us i have that is why the house on chief executive officer by law dash environmental lawyers association is one that just before the break and we're talking about how difficult it is to initiate the change . and i don't know if you would agree with that, but i think the, the issue of lifestyle is crucial here. because over the last several decades, perhaps even more the this wester lives tell rich,

as you said. and i agree with that totally is being sustained through the reliance on the rest of the world and through very exploitative and sometimes of iron clad reliance and the rest of the world. it's being propagated through media, through movies as something that everybody aspires to. and it is pretty clear from all the calculations that people, uh, we cannot afford that kind of a live sold to everybody. home just bought it because we have one and another 2 or 3 planets to explore it. do you think it's possible? do you think it's realistic to arrive at a certain definition a certain view of a lifestyle that will be dignified, socially desirable, and at the same time respectful to the environment, then allowing for the generation of, of the nature that we are using. i very much think it's close to that, and this is a confusion that we see in my generation and in the next generation really says

sustainable lifestyle. we often think that we do not know the answer to this question here. mean by living, all of the children really want to go abroad for studies. they want to go to devin upfront fees. they want to build up the carrier did because they're very comfortable with the immune. it is that the developed countries offered them too, but i can see a definite change in the younger generation know, but i'm coming to that lead to when people ask me what this sustainable light stay . i said the light possible fire learn. oh, where the fire writing bundle with dish is a sustainable, nice day. she has all the things that are needed for this sentence, gone for the leaving. she has all the things that mean it keeps weeks. but she does not have grade. she does not ask for more and more and more and more,

and he does not ask it from others. on the other hand, they explain to margaret is actually building their faction on the a dark apple do either spectrum. so i think it's more concrete and then leaks. okay, when you address that, you very easily find the destination of sustainable living and sharing values with dish every time a positive dishes, then that's about the growth. they tell us very soon, really to become like the developed countries, but it is the model of the developed country. that is the reason for the scepter strongly of climate change, but actually don't take into consideration. i think a lot have to do in depth and nothing of consciousness in the next generation. and this time attending the call, i have come back with a very positive feeling. number one,

because our leaders this time says the pressure from the communities and they wanted to come back with some definition fairly quick. second, this time the saw the children chanting, struggling for climate justice. so i expect a responsible citizen read. i'm responsible leadership company, jet mission. i want to bring in the question of the issue of globalization, which i'm sure list of millions of people out of publishing, but it also has its shadow side in it, in a sense of outsourcing all the negative. for example, you know, shipping the car back, garbage, ofa, western countries to asian countries or air pollution for non stop production or in humane working hours. what have you? and i wonder if this is more balanced, more asset go, lifetime warranty and video land. lifestyle is possible within the concept of

globalization, because uh, you know, if everything is global it's, it's hard to understand who is the responsible for this little corner of the world . it is very important for us to be critical, but it is also important for us to be hopefully we can't change the things if we start losing faith in every process. uh and in every institution you say i am unable to put down and a very proudly see public time is protecting it's a nature as the same day mainstreaming. we have a licensed agent, so they have a good bit said god, for example, the constitution of what does clearly say that you at what really never b. busy this trying foreigners to an extent that it comes down below 60

percent down a children haven't got the right set of education. i must say look, i do wonder they're dealing with the plastic monet's very successfully. so the goal is action and the cause of this issue has to be in handle very nicely with right set of rulers in the driving, in the one that in the it all part of the way communities seduce the site is working to find out transition from cost if with 200 percent renew, but we're having hard time to get our governments to listen to it at all. governments are also under pressure from the front end government. these they have to exploit the of course they wanted a gas company. they want the mining, but they just entered in the we have the said, what's the worst thing that's happening here? it all part of the what is the governments are out there to deny us. all right? to say no. so the more we say yes to renew, but the government keeps on saying no,

we want to cluster, develop masoud. what's cool and really want to say no to the board. we have this being a, in the street with governments when entering the canvas. um, so that is one thing that i see that is growing all around the world. so right to say no has to be something that has to be recognized. now you mentioned that the governments are often uh, facing um, inflicting uh, goals and agendas because sure everybody, i'm sure i liked it if they had an opportunity to protect the environment, they would do that. but the, they're also more immediate concerns about, you know, provision of services, etc. so there's a lot of talk these days about uh, cities and how urban development should received in the social credit, the policies or cities around associated with the, with the birth of civilization. and i've heard some especially speculate that they

may be also associated with the demise of both uh, utilize ation and ecology. now the united nations panel on climate change recently recommended smaller cds and more walkable cities. do you think that's a workable idea? um, what do you think would make living in the mid sized c, b as attractive for um lets say an average banquet ashtray or an average russian as leaving it in cities like duck a or i most go? yes. thank you. i think that little bit more does exist. that can be followed. that's can slow down your g, d being grouped. but if you think g d p is the only test of your development, you better also called how much are you losing your due to be because of the environment of the patient in bilingual dish. everybody to the she is losing 3

to 4 years of their lives spent because of in production and we've been putting it's log me some of that back up 1st. they started me some other family but it's my mother. it's my side the we don't really think give back to the sustainable alternatives, says the development model is do exist, but in the rational foster g, d, p before gets the, you know, trust for happiness, about cities. see for, for the reality is, this is the place where you get to livelihood. likelihood is somewhat secure, so they have enough which has to be decentralized, which is not often happening in our part of the word. everything remains to this entry. we've kind, they've changed this, we aggravate farther because one co du or walter bundle dish, meaning the whole facility you might go on the watch. i don't really, you know, and that's the cause of trying to change very fast. so with that more and more

people may be coming to dakota and this already on leave, the city we have provided they give you a flavor of him. in this words said, i just hope that doesn't happen. of course, that basic. i look city in most cities, major cities, we find the same problem. he's not walking side creek is also an option improvement of the public transportation system as opposed to an option. so everyone has to have a car and that kind of has to come out on the road every day is some this idea is an idea that we have to just describe now. uh, if i may ask you one final question and you mentioned the uh, the apocalyptic forecast. the tom scientist i'm making you about the degradation of the earth and nature. you mentioned the, the, the mice or the destruction of the coastal areas and some of the asian countries. for some parts of africa. the opposite is being forecasts the very area uh, environment

a norm is draws that will make some of the land fully and uninhabited. and then there is a question of $52.00 small island states for home climate change is already in that in special spread. the thread that has already started to manifest itself in the form of a more frequent and more powerful storms and droughts at, as you mention, the developed countries are also being impacted. but i think it really was agreed that they the action still falls behind the rhetoric. how bad doing this thing? it should become before the world truly authentically springs into action on this one. i want to be hopefully here, although i can see that to be are missing out on time. you're not addressing the problem in a timely fashion. but if you have phone with the conference of part is this time

you have seen that the delegations extending the conference for 2 more days because they could not reach a consensus on the last and damage. they wanted to come up with different strategies, like declaring a separate insurance game they wanted to break the you need, you have g 77 at china, but they have been managed to do that even within that extended period. that is because the effective country leaders on the fisher from their communities they went there with definitely need for me to been that they have to come back. we something to, you know, report to the a, b but. and that is by the butler. they should present, they did the focused on the present. they did the center go to the present data. and the negotiators did not allow a crack in the unit. so and the,

and the developed countries, despite their other efforts, all, you know, declaring this insurance game and everything had to bogged down to this pressure. so i think, uh, the pressure is on the more they backed it for me, it is getting organized. uh, things being provided, we start moving in the right direction, but we have much more organized, alternate slide, the timber traders, fossil industry, plastic industries, how the community resistors really communicate and talk through this. the film expected. how better weaving, give the pressures of this economic sectors of a controller, which tells you how long it's been take for us. do you know the change that we actually mean? we unfortunately have to leave it there,

but i'm really grateful for this. very distressing, at the same time, somewhat of to mr. conversation. thank you very much for that. thanks. thank you for watching hope to hear again. it was a part of the, [000:00:00;00] the, as the ukraine conflict rages on certain

u. s. allies that have outlaw cluster munitions. just approve of washington's decision to supply them. take care of. as you can see, several residential coulters now look like the home to an estimated 20000 people can now live in ruins. the un chief refuses to retract his criticism of for roshana is really raised on a refugee camp in jeanine as the organization's human rights council called with a potential or friday. the white house dodges questions about potential bite and family involvement in the cocaine scandal and appears to give a false account of their whereabouts at the time the mid sunday evening from moscow. and welcome to the weekly with the top headlines of the week. i'm here, elizabeth, i'm happy to have you join us. the russian defense ministry has released explosive footage, said to show failed ukrainian counter offensive operations. media reports the just

the video was recorded back in early june. it shows ukrainian armor vehicles heading a mine field during an attempted advance with minds and artillery halting the offensive. the location is reported to be is, is up under warranty of region. at least 10 vehicles were destroyed, including western supplied units. meanwhile, and made the apparent lack of any significant progress in the counter offensive. this week, washington decided to equip kiff with cluster bonds, a pentagon official things, casualties caused by the munitions or of secondary importance to stopping a russian victory. i'm is concerned about the humanitarian circumstance as anybody . but the worst thing for civilians in ukraine is for russia to win the war. and so it's important that they don't the bite in administration's decision to supply keeps regime with cluster. munitions is yet another blade has manifestation of the aggressive anti russian policy of the united states,

which aims through prolonged the conflict and ukraine as long as possible on wage war until the last ukrainian by supplying cluster munitions, washington, william sikes, to be an accomplice in mining the territory and will fairly share the responsibility for the deaths caused by the explosions, including those of russian ukrainian children. the transfer of costing munitions is a gesture of desperation on the evidence of powerlessness in the face of the failure of ukraine's talented counter offensive. washington's move provoked a rare split among allies and the normally united stands to the conflict. the spanish defense minister expressed reservations, along with the german foreign minister and the british prime minister. all 3 countries are signatories to the cluster munition treaty, which bands that are use spain based on the firm commitment it has with ukraine, also has

a firm commitment that certain weapons and bonds cannot be delivered under any circumstances. no, to cluster bombs and yes, to the legitimate defense of ukraine, which we understand should not be carried out with cluster bombs. i have followed the media reports for us as a state party, the oslo agreement on the convention on cluster munitions applies. here, k is signature, e to a convention which prohibits the production or use of cluster munitions and discourages they use a little background cluster munitions can be dropped by air or fired from the ground or c releasing hundreds of smaller bom let from an inner canister, which are then dispersed over a large area. they have a comparatively high dug,