this is eric, opposite of what's allowed on a, for the in the other parts as developed countries continue vocalizing that concerned about the degradation of the environment. they still export the march of the garbage overseas and continue investing in high pollution. outage of projects in developing countries is authentic and environmental justice even possible before the earth passes the point of no return. we'll discuss that. i'm now joined by saying that his mom, the house on chief executive of the backlash environmental lawyers association. reason one is great to see. i'm going to talk to thank you very much for your time . thank you. i'm particularly grateful for uh for this conversation and for the chance to talk to because i really like your approach. i think you approach this very complicated, very science, the issue in a very human way and that is easy for an ordinary person to understand. so instead of talking about, let's say,

limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees celsius as the most scientists do, you speak about the quality of air that we breathe every 2nd of our lives. and that's lovely. speaking is what it is. one of the reasons why a logical issues are not addressed as they should be, is because they are formulated in a way that is very hard for most people to grass and to practice that very, very, really talk about trying to change and we work with the communities, they don't really say climate change, but they explain their everyday difficulties to you. and by listening to their everyday to speaker, these may be a person exports to what's happening globally. i used and named realize that it's happening because of climate change. so people don't know what is the

stands for. they really do not understand what the golf steps for or what you n f, c, c, c, or mitigations desk. but, but they are the ones who are feeling that in fact, of our injustice is being done to the environment. so it is there, then bridge that is most important. and what is this you say is exactly what my father was. i see for di, efficiency saves is exactly what my fishermen are saying, but they just have different language. and finally, change has so much and even back on our everyday lives, on the where the established human rights, the giving it to human language is not paid right now. speaking about injustices both to the environment and as a result of the people who leave on, on those lines, you often use the concept of acco side in your public work. how do you define it?

as we hear every day we are losing forest area, which is the size of the 2 guys. it says what we're doing to the green color of this word is not king, but english site. and they said this because we are doing which for knowledge about the consequences of our work renewal that they've pre destroy, far as the challenges of climate change, we increased many for still we are doing a long defend, goes for region, alternatives exist. so this is because uh, because what you're distracting can ought to be this stored very easy. you god create to forward is to god create 30. you can create from rick stadiums. you get the houses of down ships, but you can't recreate the forest. you've got to recreate dirty but, and you know,

that you're actually destroying something that you're going to retreat and this destruction we'd have serious negative impact on some communities in some parts as well as thinking about that. i think one of the problems here is that the impacts will be most noticeable in the indigenous community. just people whose to leave of the land, but people in bigger cities and you know, who don't have many trees around them, they sort of, uh, don't even notice that apart perhaps from the, you know, the quality of where or the quality of water, which in any c, d, 's is more or less a cube right now. how do you think it could be made relate to bowl, to be sort of an average urban citizen or on the earth to make him not only uh, be strictly concerned about the you know, the,

disappearing for us somewhere. and let's say him in south america. but actually to be concerned about what surrounds him on the, in the medium or her on an immediate basis in, in my part of the word. it is no longer an issue of ad strictly connected the someone with the adverse the bank because i am leaving kafka. the most populated got the word and it is often ranked as one of the most unbelievable cities of good word. so the cd to and there's here of so the reach be been here, so are facing the impact of petition. so be, but what should be leaving in the capital of bangladesh. also even have the same voice in the air that someone else is inhaling as so when we contaminated environment, when we destroy nature,

the impact will say just says by everyone. and also to answer your question. this time we are having cds, food prices in the world. and if we destroy our exit, go to your land. if it destroyed our tradition, little knowledge around for the production, the time i think trips become even more acute and c, v a for you. because you then become dependent on for being produced as way, which is not something that's a sustainable in the city where the temperature is pre degree higher already from the neighboring down woods. you know, right? because the townships having chopped the trees, but in type got in the name of development, any of our pursuit to become a gap between like a single door. we are all going for our, their lives issues and discovering all the brands we've gone. so when you distract

nature 8, thanks have a range of whether you are rich or cool. it doesn't really the way i living here was one the and then uh, something in it was to argue with this faces because sure the impact is spelled because ultimately we have one planets in habit, but the impact is different uh, for people in bangladesh. then let's say uh for people in the united states, uh, which brings me to this old question of who should be responsible for making and funding those a great changes that are necessary, correct me from wrong. but as things stand now about 10 percent of the ones population is responsible for nearly half of the global emissions. and that secret may become even more lopsided if we factory and older production change. for example, you know, products manufacturers and buy dash for the consumption in great britain,

and then you add all the shipping and then shipping back of the garbage. and sometimes, you know, people including myself come to the conclusion that this launch of land in some of the rich countries has become a way of cleaning the own land at the expense of somebody else's land. i'm exaggerating here, where you are the door to door lights or anything that is the t, v have or embraced and economic models that perhaps is not delivering. it's not deliberating for the majority of the, but it is deliberating for a few or the guys. and that is why we always see that the more stronger our d mind, the mind of the most vulnerable countries due to climate change, is getting stronger for a transition from fossil square to renew it with the more resistance we are actually facing from the forces where the industry because they're economics and

oregon nomics are clearly different. having said that, if you look, this work has happened this year in the u. k. excels on the sheet steps, you'll get people have to read it so that these are gonna proceed in that. so they provide me in the developed country, it is a notion that is we lot dots, the lines are these, even a doctor there lies, they'll be able to deal with it. i don't think the magnitude of the problem is not address from the score really low in the office to deal with it at these even gone the foot in the u. k, it is not totally the temperature rise. that what has been what this one has to also look to is the fact that dissipated country which is known for his demo 3 see had 3 prime ministers in just 2 or 3 months. so this vehicle, nomic martyr, is not totally destroying the nature. it is also not delivering to the need so the

developed countries because it's pretty exploitive in nature and. ready doing that me being in the us or in canada or in russia. i'm not be, you're impacted by it. that perhaps is not going to happen. we have to take lessons for what is happening and you get and all the extra disasters that are happening around us. and they're not happening only india volume. the dish pack is done oriented together happening in the government frontiers. oh absolutely. but they're not affecting those developed countries as much as some of the developing turret punches of you mentioned them. maybe i'm teaching benches, but i think when it comes to various international environmental for the most common dynamic is still for the developing nations. are the most effective nations to sort of try to your trip wealthy countries into providing some money. while the developed countries still continue with um, sort of exporting the environmental am front of the policies onto the developing

world. and sometimes it looks really like a key back payment for the preservation of the status quo. and both sides agree with that. now you are arguing for change of paradigm, how do you think it could be implemented as who should be the initiators or that change? it is not only some money that is being uh, the model that it is being demanded on clear grounds of responsibility. the cost is the one to accept the term liability, but in the day it is the damage that is being paid for the last that is being bars . and the loss is actually being caused by the very exploit date give model of development of the death in the sky vision. also, it is not only a gun for money, it is also a call for system change as you, as you write the police. and we have seen that before the war,

there was c j. the changes started very slowly, for example, or germany gave a declaration that the, it's a lot to be using court anymore. and then you can also in the call that was headed in step glenn. press hard sort of sees out from good, but then because of pressure coming from the devil, nothing worked on so the compromised language was phase down. so the problem is we are asking for a system change, but we are doing that being under the influence of those who are responsible for this. for example, if you see them, they both the ition team that the us base to the call uh parts i'm it. they have many players from the far situated industry. they konami is dependent on the far

since when industry, when you find through this malaria, you don't really take what you do is if you do with water, we have to take a very short break right now. but we'll be back to the discussion in just a few moments section. the what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race is on all sides. very dramatic. the only personally,

i'm going to resist, i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very unclear to get a time time to sit down and talk the welcome back to wells of parts with the site here. that is why the house on chief executive officer by law dash environmental lawyers association is one of the just before the break we were talking about how difficult it is uh to initiate the change. and i don't know if you would agree with that, but i think the, the issue of lifestyle is crucial here. because over the last several decades, perhaps even more the this wester lives tell rich, as you said. and i agree with that totally is being sustained through the reliance on the rest of the world and through very explore that to and sometimes the iron

clad reliance and the rest of the world. it's being propagated through media, through uh, movies as something that everybody aspires to. and it is pretty clear from all the calculations that people, uh, we cannot afford that kind of a live sold to everybody on this one. and because we really need another 2 or 3 planets to explore it, do you think it's possible? um, do you think it's realistic to arrive at a certain definition? i certainly view all the lifestyle that will be dignified, socially desirable, and at the same time respectful to the environment, then allowing for the generation of, of the nature that we are using. i very much think it's close to that. and this is a confusion that we see in my generation and in the next generation really says sustainable lifestyle. we often think that we do not to know the answer to this

question here, mean bangladesh. all the children really want to go abroad 1st start is they want to go to devin upfront fees. they want to build up the carrier and they because they are very comfortable with the immune. it is that the developed countries offered them too, but i can see a definite change in the younger generation know, but i'm coming to that lead to when people ask me what is sustainable lighting? say? i said light possible fire learn? oh, well the fire writing bundle with dish is a sustainable, nice day. he has all the things that are needed for this sentence, gone for the leaving. she has all the things that me it keeps me, but he does not have grade. so he does not ask for more and more and more and more . and he does not ask it from others. on the other hand, they explain to margaret is actually building their faction on the

a dark apple. the other spectrum is. so i think it's more concrete and it leads to when you address that, you very easily find the destination of sustainable living and sharing bundle with dish. every time i look for the dishes, then that's about to grow the tailors very soon. really to become like the countries, but it is the model of the developed country. that is the reason for the scepter strongly of climate change, but actually don't take into consideration. i think a lot has to do in depth and nothing of consciousness in the next generation and this se, attending the call, i have come back with a very positive feeling. number one, because our leaders this time says the pressure from the communities and they

wanted to come back with some definition really quick. second, this time the saw the children chanting school, then folks, i met justice, so i expect responsible citizenry and responsible leadership company, a jet mission. i want to bring in the question the issue of globalization, which i'm sure listed millions of people out of publishing, but it also has a shadow side in, in a sense of outsourcing all the negatives. for example, you know, shipping the car back, garbage, ofa, western countries to asian countries or air pollution for non stop reduction or in humane working hours. what have you, and i wonder if this is more balanced, more ethical, lifetime warranty and video land lifestyle is possible within the concept of globalization. because, you know, if everything is global it's, it's hard to understand who is the responsible for this little corner of the world

. it is very important for us to be critical, but it is also important for us to be hopefully we can't change the things if we start losing faith in every process. uh and in every institution. you see i am unable to put down and a very proudly see published dime is protecting. it's a nature at the same time mainstreaming. we took up a licensed agent, so they haven't heard this, said god, for example, the constitution of what does clearly say that you at what really never be this trying foreigners to an extent that it comes down below 60 percent dummy children haven't got the right set of education, i must say, look, i do wonder they're dealing with the plastic monet's very successfully. so that

goes action. and the cause of this issue has been handled very nicely with right set of rulers in the driving in the one that in the it all part of the way communities seduce the site is working to find out transition from the process with 200 percent. renew, but we are having hard time to get the governments to listen to it at our governments are also under pressure from before and government these they have to explore the of course, they wanted a gas company. they want, they might need something they just need to do. do we have the said, what's the worst thing that's happening here? it all part of the, what is the governments are out there to deny us. all right? to say no. so the more we say yes to renew, but the government keeps on saying no, we want to cluster, develop, misuse was cool. and really want to say no to the board. we had this being a,

in the street with governments wanting to make any some. so that is one thing that i see that is growing all around the world. so right. just saying no has to be something that has to be recognized. now you mentioned that the governments are often uh, facing um, inflicting uh, goals and agendas because sure everybody, i'm sure i liked it if they had an opportunity to protect the environment, they would do those with the they're also more immediate concerns about, you know, provision of services, etc. um, so there's a lot of talk these days about uh, cities and how urban development should received in the social credit, the policies or cities around associated with the, with the birth of civilization. and i've heard some especially speculate that they may be also associated with the demise of both uh, solicitation and ecology. now do you united nations panel on climate change

recently recommended smaller cds and more walkable cities? do you think that's a workable idea? um, what do you think would make living in the mid sized c, b as attractive for let's say, an average brian glove ashtray or an average russian as leaving it in cities like dot com or i must go? yes. thank you. i think the motors exist that can be followed, that can slow down your g, d being grouped. but if you think g d p is the only test of your development, you better also called how much are you losing your g to be because of the environment institution in bilingual dish? everybody to the she is losing 3 to 4 years of their life. spend because of in petition and read into thing. it's log me, some of that back up person. it started me some other balance, but this my love,

this is my side the we don't really think get back to be sustainable alternatives says the development model is do exist, but in the rational foster g, d, p, before it gets to, you know, trust for happiness about cities to see for, for the days this is the place where you get to livelihood. likelihood is somewhat secured. so the wrench has to be decentralized, which is not often happening in our part of the word. everything remains to this entry. we've kind of changed this will aggravate farther because one turned the course to validate or one 3rd of bundle dish. meaning the hope was the lady a might go on the watch. i don't really, you know, and that's the cause of trying to change very fast. so with that more and more people going to be coming to tucker and this already on leave, the city we have provide, they give you a flavor all have in this word it says,

i just hope that doesn't happen. of course, that basic. i look city in most cities, major cities, we find the same problem if not walking. cyclic is also an option improvement of the public transportation system as opposed to that option. so everyone has to have a car and that kind of has to come out on the road every day is some these idea is an idea that we have to just describe now. uh, if i may ask you one final question and you mentioned the uh, the apocalyptic forecast. the tom scientist i'm making you about the degradation of the earth and nature. you, you mentioned the, the demise or the destruction of the coastal areas and some of the asian countries . for some parts of africa. the opposite is being forecasts the very area uh, environment

a norm is draws that will make some of the land fully and uninhabited. and then there is a question of $52.00 small island states for home climate change is already in that special spread. the thread that has already started to manifest itself in the form of a more frequent and more powerful storms and droughts at, as you mentioned, the developed countries are also being impacted. but i think it really was agreed that they the action still falls behind the rhetoric. how bad do you think it should become before the world truly authentically springs into action on this one? i want to be hopefully here, although i can see that to be are missing out on time. we are not addressing the problem in a timely fashion. but if you have phone with the conference of boxes, this time, you have seen that the delegation is extending the conference for 2 more days

because they could not reach the concepts, the standard loss, then the damage they wanted to come up with different strategies like declaring a separate insurance game, they wanted to break the you need, you have g 77 at china, but they have been managed to do that even within the extended period. that is because the affected country leaders are, i'm the fisher from their communities. they went there with definitely need for me to been that they have to come back. we something to, you know, report through the a, b, but, and that is by the butler. they should present. they did the focus on the present. they did the senate going to be present data and the negotiator did not allow a crack in the unit. so and the devil of the gun fees despite their other efforts, all, you know,

declaring this insurance game and everything had to bogged down to this pressure. so i think a, the pressure is on the more they backed it for me, it is getting organized. uh things been pretty badly start moving in the right direction. but we have much more organized, alternate slide, the timber triggers, faster industry, plastic industry, how the community resistors will communicate and talk through this different nomic sectors. how better leaving give the pressures of this economic sectors of the country which tell you how long it's been. take for us, do you know the change that to be actually me? we unfortunately have to leave it there, but i'm really grateful for this. very distressing and the same time,

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