operandi, as the conflict in ukraine continues and the debate about supplying arms to the care for gene rages on, we'll take a look at what sorts of weapons the collective west is contending with, while the us and boast itself as the supreme military in the world. and the main supplier of arms to ukraine, does its arsenal actually stack up? in terms of modern capabilities? we'll talk to a retired russian naval engineer who breaks down exactly what these modern missiles can do. all right, let's get into the m o the you may have heard the stories about the ghost of t f or the midst of snake island early on in the ukraine conflict. by now, you probably know they were fake news. there was never a ukrainian top gun fighter pilot who took down dozens of russian jets. the

soldiers on snake island never cursed out the russian military before being blown up. in fact, they were actually captured safely and then arrested. the story of martyrdom never happened. the more recent stories, however, are ones that defy the laws of physics, their tails of text versus tech, missile capabilities and advanced arsenals. since you create a is not a manufacturer of these products simply the end user. today's fairytales are that of russian military technology versus those from the u. s. u. k, france and germany. that would be perfectly honest. i am certainly no arms expert, much less have the science background to explain how these things work. so we will bring in a man who is an expert with the proper technological training in their development . andre martina is a retired russian navy engineer. he's got advanced degrees in engineering such a way. vince nowadays, andre is a writer, an analyst,

his latest book called losing military supremacy, the myopia of american strategic planning. and you can see more of his musings on his blog at smooth the x 12 dot blog spot dot com. andre, thank you so much for joining us today. so 1st, i gotta ask you, for these people paying close attention to the news on the conflict and ukraine, we're hearing many different types of missiles are being used. can you give us a brief, no pun intended, crash course on the differences between some of these missile systems such as, you know, cruise missiles, glide bombs, the ballistic missiles, and especially the new hypersonic missile systems. so let's start from the m fear list. i know the type of phonics it because there is a lot of confusion involved this a situation, especially in the west or hypertonic. nice. so is the missile,

which weiss or for the aircraft, which flies with dispute about mach 5? that means a 5 speeds of the sound, but here is the problem and this has to be in the problem for many years now, since it's a rush, i announced the deployment of the operational high performing the weapons. for example, bodies took nice out for inter continental bodies. took me file is the messiah, which weiss, with many more speeds of sound, for example, mach $27.00. and this by definition makes us supersonic except for one thing, those in the south like in the body stiffness as even if they fly by the suppressed trajectory, they still fly evolve. they have a worth atmosphere. in this case, it's kind of moved to point if they help us so many speeds are found because they fly barcode there for jump. the reaction in the open space to displace as a know approximate the size of the elevation of 100 kilometers from the appraisal

the earth and bought working more than a hypertonic. nice house are, i've been nice as which flight wisdom or atmosphere, if sitting the speed or found by flies. and the more time ross is the only contra which part of the assets and the voice and actually use this thread. devastating effect on the full spectrum of the, of high performance nissans. for example, one of those measles is that the control, the cell which is known as iron bodies, stiffness, it is missed which flies info was right, but we stick projectors that means the bark or would slide pretty much as a new body's thickness out. it also flies on the bob board, fly being powered by each engine, then the engine shots, off and on the file. as you know, basic physics tells us, be useful. why? well as a ballistic missile, ballistic project that you're not going out of there. so in advance that they can

maneuver throughout all of which storage you have to re including especially to their products from the founder and they fly with the loss of just a few show. you can drive velocities between ma, from 9 am them. now we're beginning to have their feedback that actually it's don't fly within mach 13. they both are not intercept the bulk but control despite the fact that it's still being maneuverable. definitely come back to all of which flight on the if own power a call l y 3 m 20th through zillow on your cell, which most of the more than the russian ships carry this as a full blown cruise. and you saw this a smoke body stick off of outside the least of all iron. nobody's took me. so i like control which is a launch from the aircraft that me sorry. i like 3 m 20. com. it's a genuine and shipping and the lender baffles me. so i'll because it flies all over its flight path on that is a ball work using scram. jeff,

which going some good powers it, and while it uses the thought that it's still operates on, that it's own power, the velocity of the circle, and that's usually is around mach $92.00 or some of them. and the new version of the older one which is coming up would probably be, are in excess of mach 13. and that's the type of quite performing the levels we're talking about. and that was in the last, so just be faster. all those type of sonic nice size is of course strategic. uh, type of funny uh, gliding blocks. hold on guard to measurement of this problem. got me file blocks driven by there. one is there a russian who used to be desperately dismiss our system during regular police? do cox accounts like mirrors multiple independent, 3 empty vehicles. now those celiac new silas there merrily,

carriers of their own garden blocks which have their speeds in excess of march 27th. and they fly by basically gliding at over there are a or at most here. and there are also many wearable a 3 types of those. you need fast, they are comfortable both from that are and this are carpet fun. it can be sounds very glassy cruise missiles. you can see one of them is which is of course american, they bgm one, all 9, lam, a back to the back in the south, the hawk russians kept the variety. oh, those nice houses. they are stops on you like $3.14, which is pretty much caliber. while alaska is also the point, high super sonic, which is why the speed of are kind of funny, can decides about still high supersonic speeds. and these are mazda, 2 point,

twice me size, such as p $800.00 on x, and this off cruise missiles, and they vary in the range and they actually it by religion and are in terms of the targets, they are select that for. so i think so that's pretty much, it was 40. yeah. we for going back to body sickness as a classic ballistic missile. so which one of the things that 1951st avenue south, which on the power flight due to deliver those are the what is called the a boss. basically, it's the same so to speak, where you have the number of them years. a multiple in the front of 3 and 3 basic costs which are thrown into space and them fly their accelerate, and then fly with scholastic body sickness science without mind, you worry. and that's what used to be basically a domain, say all that, and you called at the gardens both and saw me do any i'm and the roster and united

states nova base, everything change in this respect. and now we have seen russia most recently, use glide bombs to devastating effect in the past few months. why are these weapons so affective and why can't, who crane or in fact, their western benefactors really develop a plan to respond to these types of bombs? well, um, federated ukraine have some type of there are different systems for example, delayed or worse off of which they have 19 eighties. uh uh, for example of the s $300.00 and they have some poor m won or short range, or the process of they separately to, to south intercept at least some of those bombs. but the russia was pretty successful in suppressing a air defense schools. there. what that was left up with an armed forces of your brain, including those restaurant supplied weapons such as like,

nonsense. they just down up into the sab, those live in bombs. and now obviously they are much free or are in terms of operating and watching those blogging bombs, bloss, most of them are beyond the range of what's left of their uh, your premium air defense. so in this frontier 4 case, yeah, there, there's very little they can do, you know, they might get like you're shooting one or 2 maybe, but they will be able to sustain any kind old there are. you want me to getting are, are going to strikes against those bumps. they will what this called in military science, lee car, the leak are being the project our me saw which been afraid to the air defense. all russians have manual those leak or a snowball days. precisely because the ukraine air defense was part of the successfully, i would say 9090 percent of was suppressed. and i later or, you know, they can all of those operations what, what's happening now recently ukrainian forces claim to have taken down

a russian tinge all missile, which is part of russia's next gen h. s. m arsenal. they say they took it down with the us patriot air defense system 1st. can that be true? and is there any sort of anti missile system that can take down and it just um, at present or, or is there anything being developed to counter them? and if so, what sort of capabilities would those things need? did you create new employer and complete coax office, the rest on media, you immediately started to spread this absolutely all morning. no air defense, complex copying. arson, all of annual nature or concrete, including the united states can take control out that uh us. we're not talking about the one path along the way through the back one, which is it was a joke. it was the small performers on the far as golf floor, but on the latest or some of the page on the back,

3 employees name made me file, which is m i m one. oh $4.00 f i believe it's uh speed is uh, $4.00. my 4.2, if i super sonya blackmore, hyper funny me so which will not simply sustain the jewels which it needs to intercept you have on there if can solve why of mock, then it's one thing stuck on you there. i'll get you to this, me solve that. so i'll just be apart from the range which is beyond the reach is 20 kilometers. kennesaw flies actually at the height of 30 kilometers. and then if that's it's bought, it stops get vertically down. so united states doesn't have any technology, we just capable intercept, something like in job or for that matter, slow we're left for the mass is from there, the bodies took me file. so this is, of course, was there cakes and you start peach was before the graphs with the actually the

concrete bought the boat, the thought young lady that these can shop it was debunked already by many military professionals and all the rest of the united states. i'm up, you've been talking about europe and is nowhere near to fred. use anything which can actually need to gauge the solve or the phone. it can be as files, it'd be there in shaw or 0. call left alone strategic hypersonic blocks such as they're all on god. this is completely out of the question. and uh, in terms of air defense, united states, actually these back behind the rush or not in years is in generation. yeah. so the problem here is obviously the primarily media circus. yeah, and uh, obviously the jump are they trying to push? now? there is nothing which can stop it unless there and decide itself. you know,

it just breaks down and then that doesn't reach anywhere. but ukraine didn't should, in your thing. in fact is you're frank, i'm not sure most of any kind of new styles. old girls rifle launchers there and here comes the other thing in order for you to intercept something like a hyper funny weapon. i actually presented some basic operational impractical calculations in my 2nd book. there are no other ocean in military affairs and you have a very bizarre chance which is rather slow, basically. uh it be uh no significant at all. or if you should probably have very many styles which creates some kind of the screen down period. if you might somehow get a box. no, you cannot shut that down, drop us for it. and there is another thing there, how you want to develop the firing solution against the target to which most like

you may not even see you towards flying in. there are couple blogs my got home and which is my new word and both. uh, well, actually every single russian me style is my new ring on its final terminal approach and some of them are new or violent. and so you, there is no way they can percent that i suspected that was fake news that the patriot system couldn't take down the control. i'm glad you cleared that up for us now. hypothetically, how would israel's iron don't fair up in that match up? for simple reason, i don't don't, is basically designed for an intercept in, in actually quite substantial wholesale quantity is all there all come off and has, well, with this corporate to shot records, those are slower bodies stick. uh, you know, uh, targets and they accelerate tools sometimes my one point to i believe,

but most and most of them are even stopped sony. so, and their idea because they are very easy to track and develop firing social for something that you already can see. clearly on your radar or any other means of detection and tracking. so yeah, in terms of the more than the warfare on the more them battlefield, it gives them more than all strikes the fonts, especially if wine would defy supersonic speeds. it's absolutely useless. right, coming up next. unintended consequences. a multi decades old warning comes to fruition. joe biden ignores american advice from the past. we'll discuss it when we return with andre martina. sit tight, the m o will be right back the the

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1934 france invaded algeria and straight away the french started in, habiting it to strengthen their position. the column is known as the new wires, took the best land from day one. the local population was put into an unequal position and was briefly exploited this cause and as discontent. the people of algeria began their long term fight for independence. 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress, to rebuild you and using cruel measures. whole villages were wiped out acts of georgia and executions of civil people including pregnant women, children and old people took place more than 2000000 people were born into concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help. cl,

jerry and patriot managed to induce france besides these negotiations in 1962 heavy and the cords were assigned 40 l. jerry on the bass warrants independence. but this was achieved at a colossal price. algeria by rights is considered to be a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the debts of one and a half 1000000 algerians. the walking back to the m. o, i am manila chance. so it's not a new idea in us foreign policy circles that america should avoid any clustering that could push then the soviet union into alignment with china. though the ussr is no more the union between russia and china seems to be unfolding before our very

eyes. the andre martine off is back with us. so andre many critics of us foreign policy say the west and unintended consequence in their actions in supporting ukraine and pastoring and tie. one have now drawn russia and china into this new alliance and military block that could counter us position as a military super power. we already see this alliance, as evidenced by the c s t o, the collective security treaty organization, with russia and china. obviously, anchoring that group. how do you see the russia, china partnership shaping up in the years to come? should the collective west be concerned? when you fall on the spam, the united states is not a land super power. it cannot stand in the commercial war and your up against the russia. for example. they know this most people in front are gone. cool,

but i'm not funny to go gregory. or they know there are a combination of the military follow flashing, trying to search only one, putting the new york on spine matter before on us foreign policy today, they still consider trying to, to be the 5. it's not part of what they felt that they wrote disposal for us or really fast in the to do one and a half years involved. but now they need to deal with trying to, trying to, if i'm moment of the doors being united states, militarily, how our trying are is not as established power as rushing terms of what in terms of maybe 2. and here's where the united states rise to a leverage. one, the less advantages if, as united states, because excellent, maybe it for all of it's for up of problems and for all of its nearing up so lessons. but when you put it together with their excellent us, maybe some are waiting for us, which is march by the train. use one. you will see me that the why russia they are

try know, i'm trying to, especially this is rasa is where are you? pardon me? the 3 a lie, because a russia may pro, i am already east providing china with the required knowledge and operate show expertise. we're trying to mike news in case the united states on strong these the war in the asia pacific region. and that in this case was it should because strong for august adults, people in the washington who want always world war 3. because if i'm on the united states already is not a competitor back in, especially a roster, and he's become mom if you are a union alliance, which for the the fact the easiest box joining of the forces. uh, yeah, we looked at all of our, like though, is it beeps, we compare, but the thing is with them largest and it looks like the are russians and chinese moines in that direction. now we hear

a lot in the media about how russia is running out of missiles. any truth to that, i mean, what is russia's true production capability? and is that set to increase at all? no, conversely, on the us and nato have a backlog of orders to arm ukraine. the us cannot seem to meet the demand. is russia really going to be in that same position as being us? is one of the major miscalculation strategic miscalculations which actually denotes and it's a sign of the death of there is a base or a growth order of box for me to call is the fact that united states and i wrote 3 books on there never had a clue about the size of rocks on the quality. it hasn't new stuff which on stage of the washer pride uses, number of new styles. more than the whole world combine. and they don't understand how often the economy works, and they don't understand how russian military industrial complex,

oprah rates and russia all produces the united states in every single apartment. united states actually may combine in every single category of there are neither 3 material, beat them, new size to be themselves, be them. thanks be done. what have you can take a look at the speed with which russia or original weights and updates is new. busy submarine forces right now in how many sheets of rush approaches as bills from now . yup. is astonishing. and they involved. so it's a little cold. so obviously as usual and now they expected rush up to, you know, basically tumble off, you know, a crumble within a month or 2. they are evidently people that don't understand what the real economy is. they cannot know any final thoughts or perhaps predictions on how the course of this conflict and ukraine is going to play out over the next. i don't know, let's say this year i paid for it. as of this me,

he'd be in cassandra. of course, of course, i cannot know, possibly i don't have enough information. only people who have information about all their armies or 3 political thought in the rush of journals file from the books places you can get with the up near or around them. but i would say that we are seeing that and all on sources of your grand, actually a rush. i use analogy as i speak for iteration. oh, there are a ukrainian army and um, and if you want to see what is going on, i will, uh, you know, ask people to go back to december 2021 in the russian circle, ultimate, all, everything there is already a state are very clearly what they're actually being stored to you and it's a little bit, it will be that you the rolling nature of back to me or the 1997 borders. yeah. would you be problems now? very possible, very probable scenario. this integration was made as such. and uh,

when you look at these steps, i would say russia issued more than the you will next steps up and it will continue onto a rush of proto bills, the land bridge between all if you're from region and across and used to. and the people who left off your brain, if anything, and russia will be dictating crappy deletion condition. so that's pretty much it. that's what i'm expecting. the andre montana. thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. now. make sure you check out andre stuff at smooth the x 12, the number 12 dot blog spot dot com and check out his newest book called losing military supremacy. thank you so much, andre. oh, thank you. all right, that's going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila chance. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o. the,

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