refreshing that both countries have enjoyed for a long to see you here over the coming field and the ukraine conflict headlines with option dr. ahead here at our to international, to the leaders of the washington axis, fighting russia through ukraine gathering the front of me is decline. and taxes and salmon and the executive council of the rush, the joins me now from moscow. thank you so much. and in general, $5.00 being for the in dues and then skis coffers. uh, what do you expect from this summit in vilnius tomorrow as well. uh, actually uh, i the another step most uh, well i understand basically patients of the ukraine in your playing the ukraine in leadership with that uh something something real capital in business as regards the end of day alliance. but i don't think that's feasible. first of all,

because while the except uh some uh, fee as a big stays full and uh, we sure would like to see uh you pray, inmate that tomorrow the respectable, the, uh, uh well there are a lot of, uh, there are many european countries which oppose this, at least until the crisis is over by the administration and tomorrow, or i will say that, but if i am sure that the informal compacts between russian government, them, us government, it will have all ready be leave or if not, we will deliver it very clear cigna, the war will not be over, because that's was one of the main goals of the russians best uh, your trade in membership in

b mistake. that's why they do it. is going to allow them in the boss of the c i bill buttons warmer. i'm best of that to moscow. he made the secret trip, apparently, to cesar lensky. you think a bill burns might have been explaining? does it look on joining nato? because that would mean logical 5 would require a britain and who knows who else to attack russia or so i guess for the visit of the yes and this the, i agree that the one of the in the gym that was be ukrainian, ukrainian aspirations. as for uh, joining the product uh veterans, uh, current us position and trusted. so ukraine in a made uh, a more, uh, i'm in the united states here. it seems that we will support deeply you agree, and as long as that, that'd be, uh, the use of very, very sounds as counter offensive or offensive old calendar offensive because russia,

uh, there's not, there's no, uh, in fact, you well, uh, was not being offensive. uh, do they go for their opinions to a launch counter? think it's a rush or that has the counter offense. so are i saying that a calendar offensive will be launched by russian for the for sure. the, this uh this. uh, i think bill uh initially address announcer offensive and, but i am sure it will be successful. so i think that the americans, and they've got to sit down at the table and uh, find it amazing a peaceful solution to be confident and a bore landscape that she is. uh, blan is kind of a fan busy. it's kind of we, for thinking of these about there was only a bank ever send back preparations, contributions to a winner. it will never happen. you know, um, so there is, uh, i had

a meeting in smithville veterans where he was buried to him. yeah. do you think? yeah, he's a sensible sort of person because what do you use in britain? there are uh politicians talking about the need with rush year rather than presumably using ukraine is a proxy and the fact that other states in europe. but talking about the need to rush you. uh, well, uh you see, i don't remember the whole of course, you know, for centers. uh so uh we have no illusions about the uh, the position um do you think bill buns understands that? well, we'll go in the process started back. okay, maybe i just wondered whether you thought recognize that some of the voices in your a but not practice course. i insure above that, i am sure about that. he recognizes the position of some countries is extreme, is a model. where are the, there is no,

a lot of talk about that. the don't be afraid of russia don't be afraid of nuclear weapons is not sold off. right. any uh we can uh, just uh, 5 lee more uh, in the ukraine or in the run so, well i, i, i don't know. no, i can't understand why reasonable people at the boat in and you gave me and do you have a government in the governments or whether you were to be in contact even in the baltics. and they are a very reasonable enough not to talk about new play reference because it is a is absolutely a responsible especially especially especially for me. i'll get on to nuclear weapons a in a 2nd. but of course media restricts very a very strictly you can't talk about nazis in ukraine. you can talk about zalinski stepping elections next year. so it's not a democracy. but in the media landscape,

shouldn't because they're all they talk about is the pre collision much to moscow. i mean what, what exactly happened because split goes and seems to be strengthened showing who is strengthened. puche it is strengthened and the media describe what actually happened. even they are not really saying anymore, oh push it is about to full what. what's your understanding of what happened on june 20 uh is it is all about money. it's all about money every be because uh regarding uh was uh is, is a businessman. uh yes. with uh, some uh, terminal affairs, but he has a business name. she uh, is the owner of the huge catering company. uh to morrow worst. you know, i don't know the status of the,

the state of the private realtor company the from the minister of defense about uh, recently. and billy is on the, on the defense. the last few years here or uh, in years can see. plus i see. and they paid to use the people in the company more than 1000000000 years dollars as their salaries insurance. uh. all kinds of compensations. uh. same, quite good. quite a lot of money, but uh when uh to use. uh, i would say uh quarter, oh maybe it was the showing more and stop is it though? is that uh for uh for this year. the minister of defense. uh, if you was billed for a long day during the contract 1st, 2nd uh the new, so defense decided that, oh uh well, i'm years old,

private companies and a wise man is not the only private manager company which is uh, acting in the, in the ukraine. all of these companies, uh, sure, uh, signing a contract with the minister of defense and uh, actually uh the owner of the company. but the direct amount of the minister of defense portion was, uh, the only uh, private company who refused. after that, uh, show us that in this case, uh you are out of the back of you. you may have when, whenever you want in africa and asia where you started, you want to do anything about the brand and ukraine only from a few minutes to the last throw defense. we'll continue a special operation after that of course. uh and uh, actually the, the absolutely socialist x. well,

we're talking about the wagner group, but is the fact that rushes ministry defense allows privatization in the 4th is a problem with some sort of legacy of the neo liberal ninety's. do you think that it has to be a re thinking the russian ministry or defense of using private contract is i know you've said that in the nato may suffer because of using private contract is just the manufacturer of a munition to replace that destroyed by the russian army as well. let's see, i have nothing against the private company as i remember the, the, it was and then the sizes are in the mind. when the conversations in the ministry of defense started about the private, the company is which used to be in the west sampling is in the rock of like a blackboard there. and there's a agreed to that the title company is i needed to ask the broad where

official official and russian involvement is not, is not advisable for the political reasons. so this uh, organized the 1st, it was in uh, 2010 or 11. i don't remember exactly. and the their area of responsibility if i'm able to like, made the effort to advisors training. there's instructors. uh so we're very new to support the defense box. uh, the for me to go uh, galleries was the, i'll stop you that more from the chairman of the executive council of the russian center for policy studies after this break the,

the narrative aside as i'm assuming us on skiing some, some of the same assistance as being the one else calls question about this, even though we will fan in the european union, the kremlin media and sports, the ortiz phone, even our video agency,

roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say a request, which is the, the, what a general of the russian forces and chairman of the executive council of the russian incentive. although he about the wagner and privatization of cool he about class elements in the car and conflict. i mean, why is it anecdotally, people doing able to escape the draft and the poor ones having to go to the front? was that always their bread? since the russian federation was created to after the full of the soviet union or has a new thing as well. uh, sir. so uh, i didn't know to agree that uh reach uh the state park and uh on that.

of course. uh there is some uh, social inequality in the pressure like in uh oh uh, free market campuses maybe in the rest of the they give about uh, people uh, who are about especially bowling years. uh, especially people still bought 130, a signed contracts with the minister of defense, smiled if you guys, each of the 1400 people uh, signing a contract with the minister of defense. and uh, going just the 1st of january deal, the same contracts with uh for uh, the future down there offensive, by the way. uh so uh, i know what a lot of people from there. well, uh, i love to reach about this with larry samsung income or

voluntary when through your brain and fighting for, for, for the goals of the i guess managers will have to wait for the statistics on that . one question that the, as all the countries have lost was in recent, he is in iraq, afghanistan, and maybe see my air really bombarding cities. why is rush, you're not used to force to bomb. you grant this, this, this uh, very uh, reach. i was asked by my american grant, this is you can. why didn't you of bob, you're already did. you have all the meals but, and by the way, the 1st 2 weeks away in a rush environment managed to destroyed pettigrew with the old mill air base is maybe a little bit of sleep but still be the am. but there was, you see about the that's the position of the present. the civilians are still being

killed in don't yet every other day. right. and we also get body and at them. but frankly, i don't understand why we, uh, the uh, in fact, of some of some elements, especially pages, especially right away and roll. deborah was the civilian objects of infrastructure. and that's position of the president with another back of the simulations inspection on the page. and a lot of people did not understand this, but designate to does it and has done it in a rock. again, it sounds, it'd be in syria, they ended up losing the war, designed to just wait for all this west and weaponry to queue up and certainly destroy every change. every hymer, every of being given away. does it. lensky comes up and destroyed one by one. well, be fixed beach was a sped expected,

especially by the landscape by you agreeing that west stomach with the major speed from 4 of those are the 3 in your dream. turned out to be my list speaking not through the 4th of june. they brought it into the official information of the minister of defense ukraine. last uh, more than to 20000 uh people uh, or best male and above 1000 pieces of armor including banks, a cds. uh, and also, uh other uh, arm as we go. so i do not expect that. uh yes, american society, it does look like uh, some uh sir. the uh, visa. so bradley but the cnbc goes 20 parcher go or yeah, for sure. no problem is the uh, supplied for uh, leopard bags for 620. it doesn't matter, it's not the number uh for uh, for the sliding in the, in the, in the, in,

in your trade. i am sure that 1st of all, uh, i presume it is fuller. uh, your opinion is really shut down for a trained beth. so now the and, and, and the equipment reach uh by some countries are uh, supplying equipment. the munitions, um, not, not, not the math for, for a saw something decisive on the european populations seem to have both the government . that's a fight on. do you think this is because russia is losing the propaganda? what was the perception war? obviously, in nature was before they had journalists, who would um, i'll give a lie for them of whether it be iraq, syria, or afghanistan. olivia, it doesn't look good. does it to see drudge bridge being destroyed, the north stream to be just stroy, just as the nations of john lives in moscow and saint petersburg?

how, how is russia gonna convince western europe that, that being lied to your, you know, it better than me as a journalist, as a media man, that all the west the media or has to be stations at the programs, the radio programs uh, being put in that uh they are or they are uh, every be in it every hour they are broadcasting. uh, uh, well, i will say uh dog, some in your trade pulling fantasy in fan is illegal not to be up against rusher arguably and say, britain. i mean, i, i'm going to ask you, i mean, the british troops, soldiers, index areas, pentagon beats ken rusher, responds to what the british, who's deployment of british soldiers, presumably they had to train people. what do you see? the british soldiers boots and they're not gonna see, you know,

they're buying the british and so, yeah, so it leaks from the pentagon. the jack next era revealed and is going to jail for revealing. well, you see that's not very that bestbuy, that is my few patients, reasonable star war with you key. but we, let's say we get rid of those people. you, you graeme and it smells, maybe maybe it's not a very arise, likely, uh, this flow is the effects that the, how many so many british already deal to pay them prism. i think it's a week ago i'm beginning these actions, but though we know that there are the bid to ship the citizens, the you are the is the, the seniors are the figures and our maintenance administer the fence. well,

there's been another tool of nuclear weapons. people can watch on camera gone of interview on rumbles, made video of is talking about days being quite probable. they'll be nuclear will eat on musk. uh perhaps the richest man in the world. he's helped a john list because he freed up 2 with you to be on sensitive, but if it will, the us weaponry is all going to just be just to give it a useful for us and then skews of troops in ukraine. yes, i understand that use it for me on through purposes. that is an open secret. but the problem is studying that at the destroy every single uh, uh, trans moving station its uh why the best and uh you said to use, uh, maybe uh, drones, uh, maybe use but uh, it's not really no solution the start reading, but that wouldn't be the the, the best wouldn't be the very highest space or installation in the

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