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a tomorrow may mark the anniversary of the creation of nazi aligned vc fronts. but it also is when leaders of the washington axis fighting russia through ukraine, gathering the if you ania to discuss the battle plans not only against moscow, but they jing as well. so how far will washington go was europe's economies decline and taxes and running a thing in the shadows of nuclear war doc and in length, and the retired lieutenant general of russia's armed forces chairman of the executive council, as a russian incentive of policy studies, you have given a bush in ski, joins me now from moscow. thank you so much and in general for coming on. so billions of dollars being bought in dues and then skis coffers. uh, what do you expect from this summit in vilnius tomorrow as well. uh, actually uh, i do not accept much uh, frankly, uh, because uh, well, i understand basically patients of uh, their landscape personally and ukraine in you play the ukraine in leadership with

that uh something something real capital business. as regards uh, the invitation of your train to the lions. uh but i don't think that's feasible. uh, 1st of all, because uh, while the exact, uh, some uh, fees and by russian stays like voltage stays full and uh, we would like to see uh ukraine in may, but tomorrow be respectful of the consequences. uh well, there are a lot of, uh, there are many, uh, european countries which oppose this, at least until the crisis is over. more or even the, by the administration though, use the use the as the innovation of ukraine and tomorrow, or i would say that, but if i'm sure that the informal contacts between russian

government, the us government, i think that the russian side will cable already been leave or if not, we will deliver it very clear saying now that if your claim is in by they have been war of will not people were because that's was one of the main goals of the restaurant special operations to prevent your trade in membership in be airlines. of course, and they could try that for and say, look, rush, i made a mistake. that's why they do is going to allow them in the boss of the ca bill buttons warmer. i'm best of that to moscow. he made the secret trip, apparently, to caesar lensky. you think a bill burns might have been explaining to the lensky way. obviously, ukraine gone, joining nato. because that would mean logical 5 would require britain, and who knows who else to attack russia. this is for the visit, the bill burns the key and recently i've seen that uh yes. and as the i,

i agree that the one of the, one of the points on the gym that was the ukranian ukranian aspirations as for uh, joining the lands. uh, i'm sure that uh there is uh, explain the, uh, current us position and prospect. so ukraine in a mentor, a more i, i suspect that even in the united states, you respect people. these claims that they will support deeply your brand as long as i mean they understand that be uh the, the picture on the bed battlefield is not in favor of you. oh uh the is a very, very uh why of the size uh,

actions as counter offensive or offensive. i don't understand why count that are going to be bullet cancer offensive because russia, uh, there's not, there's no, uh, in fact, you well, uh was not to be offensive. the names, the launch counter think it's a rush or that has the counter offensive in effect, since the $24.00 team gu, that's right. them more over. i think that the calendar offensive will be launched by russian federation. i don't know when in a week and months maybe in a couple of months, but uh for sure. uh the this uh, this, uh, uh, the stage of conflict bill. uh, initially the rest encounter offensive and but i'm sure there and explain to as the landscape that she is. uh, black is kind of a fan busy. it's kind of we for thinking of the bottom there was a 1991. cried me back cabinets and back preparations, contributions. so there wants to play a winner. it will never happen. you know,

bill birds. yes, i know bill there is uh i got acquainted with him when he was invested there. uh us invested in most of them. uh during my um, well there is uh, this is through washington. i had to meet in smithville veterans where he was buried to have the uh, the same the part. yeah. do you think? yeah, he is a sensible sort of person because what do you think of the fact that uh, uh, in britain there, uh, politicians talking about the need to go to wall out war with russia rather than presumably using ukraine is a proxy. and the fact that other states in europe, but talking about the need to start, i don't know, blowing up parts of russia as well. uh you see, i don't understand the purpose of,

well, uh, the whole of course uh the uh and by, uh, russian, uh, uh, so far, the position of andre birds and that is not the, the, the, is the secret is being like this for, for the kids for the 1st centers. so we have no illusions about the the position um do you think bill buns understands? uh well bill barnes. uh bill barrons uh is uh a different story about the about bill bearings. uh, yuki. i just wondered whether you saw it since your new bill buttons, car and headed of the ca, whether he would recognize that some of the voices in your a bundle of practical. yes, of course. of course, i insure above that, i am sure that he recognizes that position of some countries is extreme, is a model where are the there is now a lot of talk about,

especially in the u. k. the don't be afraid of russia don't be afraid of nuclear weapons is not so it's not so bad. jersey has no so frightening. we can. uh, just uh, 5 the limited the limited nuclear war uh, in the ukraine or in the russian. is it so arrest us and so well i, i, i don't know. no, i can't understand why a reasonable people m a believe that the people in and you gave me and u. k. government, in the governments of other european concept, even the baltics. and they are a very reasonable enough not to talk about new play reference because it is, uh, is absolutely responsible. especially especially especially for re i'll get on to nuclear weapons in a 2nd. but of course media restricts is restricted in britain very uh,

very strictly. you can't talk about nazis in ukraine. you can talk about zalinski stepping elections next year. so it's not a democracy. but in the media landscape, can you understand that confusion because they're all they talk about is the precaution much to moscow. i mean what, what exactly happened because pre collision seems to be strengthened showing who is strengthened. puche it is strengthened and the media don't know in nato countries how to describe what actually happened. even today i'm not really saying anymore, oh push it is about to full what. what's your understanding of what happened on june 24th? well, uh it is all about money. it's all about money. it would be because. uh, regarding uh was uh is, is it a business man? uh yes. with uh some uh criminal affairs, but he is

a business then. she uh he is the owner of the huge, uh, catering company. uh to morrow where she is. uh she used to be, oh, i don't know the state though. uh the the state of smile, but there was the owner of, uh, uh, traded notes here, company uh wagner. and she came from the states from the minister of defense president put in uh, moist out uh, recently the figures in yearly, as on the, on the catering contract with the minister of defense she last year. here are $1000000000.00 us dollars in years currency bloss here and love see about this. they be to use the people in the company more than 1000000000 years dollars as the salaries insurance. uh,

all kinds of compensations. uh. so g, she was doing quite good, quite a lot of money, but uh when uh to use uh, i would say uh, quarter oh, misunderstandings with us to show you more. and i just thought you guys have more stuff in it though. finish that uh for uh for this year. the minister of defense uh, if used to belong there in the country 1st. second, uh, the middle, so defense decided that, oh uh well of years old private companies and a wise man is not the only private manager company, which is uh, acting in the, in your crate. all these companies uh, should uh, sign a contract with the minister of defense and uh, actually uh, uh,

pulled themselves under the command of lots of people and i write the company. but the direct amount of the minister of defense to pardon was the only leader of the ball. and i wrote the private company who refused after the show said, in this case, you are out of the bedroom for you. you may have whenever you want in africa, you may share where you study the brand and ukraine, only complex units subordinate the general stuff. so the master defense will continue a special operation after that. of course, uh gordon. when furious and uh, actually uh, be these uh, riskless in absolutely senseless. uh next. well, were talking about the wagner group, but uh, is the fact that rushes administrator defense allows privatize ation in the force

is a problem with some sort of legacy of the neo liberal ninety's. do you think that has to be a re thinking the russian ministry of defense of using private contract is i know you've said that in the nato may suffer because of using private contract is just the manufacturer of a munition to replace that destroyed by the russian army as well. you see, i have nothing against the private company as i remember the, the, it was uh, in uh, 2000. and then the sizes are in the mind when the conversations in the minister of defense started about the private companies which used to be in the west, especially in the us companies in iraq, of like the black one there and the others about it was agreed to that private company is i need you to think that broad aware

official official uh, in russian uh military. uh uh, involvement is not, is not advisable. uh, for the political reasons. so then uh, why are um was uh, organized, uh its 1st it was in uh, 2011. i don't remember. exactly. and the, uh, the area of, uh, responsibility defined me like this was uh, made the effort to advisors training. there is, uh, instructors. uh, so with very little support. i mean, uh from the viewpoint of materials from the minister of defense. but uh, the political uh, galleries was provided in a general vision scale stop. you have more from the chairman of the executive council of the russian center for policy studies after this break.

the majority calls you previously when i should reconcile, reconcile the piece on either side. because the business then, the hostage by any analysis on my phone, i would try to do the actual type either will resist any kind of compromise, any pressure, any, any mental, any last thoughts are lost. and i remind you, we can fix that if we don't exceed the limits escalate the

welcome back to going on to go. and i'm still here with you ever get any vision scheme or time to attend the general of the russian forces and chairman of the executive council of the russian incentive of policy studies. so we were talking about the wagner and privatization of cause some in russia, a talking about class elements in the current conflict. i mean, why is it anecdotally, people talk about the rich russians being able to escape the draft and the poor ones having to go to the front? was that always their bread? since the russian federation was created to have to the full of the soviet union was a new thing as well. uh sir. so uh, i didn't know to agree that uh reach uh the state park and uh on that of course. uh there is uh some uh, social inequality in the pressure like in uh, full uh, free market campuses, maybe in the rest of the,

the gap as to why that's true about uh, people who are outside the trade. especially volunteers, especially the postpone voluntary a signed contracts with the minister of defense. now if you guys, each of the 1400 people a site in a contract with the minister of defense and uh, going through your trade. uh since the 1st of january deal. uh yes, for the $0.10 with $85000.00 people all the way the same contracts with the minister of defense. so if that's uh the, the, the, the area goes to get it for uh, for me and reserves for the future down there offensive, by the way. uh so uh, i know what a lot of people from doing well, a love to reach uh,

but uh, from uh, the family lives with larry samsung income. cool. uh, voluntary uh, when through your brain and uh, finding uh for, for, for the goals of the i guess movers will have to wait for the statistics on that. one question. its a as often be nice. and of course, the nature of countries of last was in recent, he is in iraq, afghanistan, and they be syria, but they usually start off by a really bombarding cities. why is rush, you're not used to force to balmy's granddaughter? there's a, there's a very good question. reach, i was asked by my american grant, this is the european mcwilliam, especially america. why didn't you uh, bomb, uh you train uh, since you get all the uh, s, if you already did, you get the all the meals. and by the way, the 1st 2 weeks when

a russian army managed to destroy pettigrew, a whole male chick infrastructure. i mean uh, air base is a manual basis, although without a fleet but still be the uh, and buy a truck system. uh, but uh that was easy. um, i may agree or not, but then that's the position of the present because civilians are still being killed in don't yet every other day. right. and we also get body m at them, but frankly, i don't understand why we, uh, the, uh, the, uh, some, uh, some uh, elements or section that elements, especially pages especially right away a little bit. but it was, uh, it seems there kinda similar to the civilian objects of infrastructure. and that's position of the president, but not the text of the simulators so structured on the page. a lot of people did

not understand this, but that's the position of the russian president and the russian got. maybe it's because when they to does it and has done it in iraq, afghanistan, and they'd be in syria, they ended up losing the was who knows? so is the plan to just wait for all this west and weapon? read the queue up and certainly destroy every tank. every hymer, every whatever. multi $1000000.00 piece of equipment being given away does it ends . e comes up and just destroyed all one by one. be fact, beach was a sped expected, especially by the landscape by you agreeing. that was stomach. we've been, we will be the magic major of states from 4 of those are the 3 in ukraine, turned out to be uh, my list speaking not true. well, uh, actually since the 4th of june, they bought into the official information of the minister of defense ukraine. uh,

last uh, more than to 20000 people. uh best the male and above $1000.00 pieces of armor including banks, a cities. uh and though, uh other uh, armies, vehicles. so we, uh, i do not expect that. uh yes. americans decided those applied. uh, some uh sir. the uh, visa. so bradley, but the cbc goes plan did sir. the, uh well, uh parts are go or yeah. portugal uh from your store. uh supply for uh, leopard uh, bags for $620.00. it doesn't matter. it's not the number uh which is uh is that so for uh, for the sliding in the, in the, in the, in, in your trade. i am sure that 1st of all, uh, sooner laser,

i presume it is fuller, your opinion is really shut down for a train better. so now the good and, and, and the friedman beach why some countries are supplying equipment, the munitions, i'm not, i'm not, i'm not the math for, for a saw something decisive on the part of the western european populations seem to support the government, the policy to fight to fight on, do you think this is because russia is losing the propaganda? what was the perception war? obviously, in nature was before they have journalists, who would um, i'll give a lie for them of whether it be iraq, syria, or afghanistan. olivia, it doesn't look good, does it to see drones attacking the kremlin, the coach bridge being destroyed, the north stream to be destroyed? assassinations of john lives in moscow and saint petersburg. how. how is russia gonna convince western europe that they're being lied to?

well, you see, of course, say your, you know, it better than me as a journalist, as a media man. that all the west, the media, all the major use papers to the stations of tv programs, the radio programs uh, being put in there. uh they are all uh, is the russian, they are uh, every been it every hour they are broadcasting. oh, well i will say dog so big chairs i was going on in your train pulling fantasy in fantasy. it's illegal not to be up against rusher arguably. and say, britain, i mean i, i'm going to ask you, i mean, we now know that there 50 british troops soldiers in ukraine from jack tex areas, pentagon beach, ken russia, responds to what the british,

whose deployment of british soldiers, presumably they had to train people to see uh, what do you see uh, the previous soldiers officially, the adjustment us and there was and then of course, you know, there by the british and so, yeah, so special forces, according to the leaks from the pentagon, the jack next era revealed and is going to jail for revealing. well you see that's not very that bestbuy, that is my opinion. it's not a sufficient reason to start war with yuki. uh but we uh let's say we get rid of those people. uh you your brain and its spelled up maybe maybe it's not a very a right not the, not the probably likely and be slow is the effects that the problem many so many british uh people go all the way the deal that they can prism

. i think it's, uh, there are a lot of, uh, police ago, uh, and the beginning the, you know, these uh, you know, these uh actions. but though we know that there are casualties in mind that the british ship the citizens in my us citizens, the europeans. but the, the figures are the figures and not made public by the national minister of incense . while there's been another tool of nuclear weapons, people can watch on camera gone, of interview on a rumble. but and of course made video is talking about days being quite probable they'll be nuclear will eat on musk, perhaps the richest man in the world. he's helped to john list because he was freed up to it to, to be on sensitive. but if it will, the us and western european weaponry is organ and it just be destroyed in the next

few months. you said that you own must styling system has been given a useful for us. and lensky is a new nazi link troops and you grant. yes, i understand that sally is being used in uh for me on through purposes. uh that is an open secret. but the problem is studying that. uh the uh, destroyed every single uh, uh, trans moving station its uh, quite the best and uh you said to use, uh, maybe a drones uh, maybe use but uh, it's not really the solution. the solution will be the boat will be destruction of the space component, the startling, but that building failed the, the, the, the, the, the very high station was police and in the confrontation with united states. other than being guy uh, seeing that uh,

russian president is not ready for um, direct uh confirmation that in about a space he wants the general general baranski. thank you. to have that set for the show will be back on saturday with a brand new episode. but until then, you can keep a judge by the social media if it's not sensitive in your country and had to a channel going on the going to be unable to come to what's new and old episodes of going underground c, saturday. the, the russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community not getting all sense and the in the system

must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on russia funding and split the ortiz net keeping our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. what question did you say? even closer to the, to goes without saying, nato was a very aggressive military alliance who would have thought that at the core of its belief system was believing in unicorns the biking ministrations decisions just a cluster bombs. ukraine demonstrates this the,

the headlines on off to national, at the criminal reveals of vladimir putin did meet with the lead all the fog, no group. and this demand is just days off of their attempted music. as we understand, the russian president essentially discuss the best faith washington's decisions, a green light cluster, munitions, the key of stokes anger, and a host of countries including russia, china, and come bodies, but also some of america as close as may. so i like russia, china relations are rough, solid and a cooperation between the 2 will only be intensified.