in the collective west is contending with, while the us boast itself as the supreme military in the world and the main supplier of arms to ukraine. does its arsenal actually stack up? in terms of modern capabilities? we'll talk to a retired russian naval engineer who breaks down exactly what these modern missiles can do. all right, let's get into the m o. the you may have heard the stories about the ghost of t f or the midst of snake island early on in the ukraine conflict. by now, you probably know they were fake news. there was never a ukrainian top gun fighter pilot who took down dozens of russian jets. the soldiers on snake island never cursed out the russian military before being blown up. in fact, they were actually captured safely and then arrested. the story of martyrdom never

happened. the more recent stories, however, are ones that defy the laws of physics, their tails of text versus tech, missile capabilities and advanced arsenals. since you create a is not a manufacturer of these products simply the end user. today's fairytales are that of russian military technology versus those from the u. s. u. k, france and germany. that would be perfectly honest. i am certainly no arms expert, much less have the science background to explain how these things work. so we will bring in a man who is an expert with the proper technological training in their development . andre marty and off is a retired russian navy engineer. he's got advanced degrees in engineering such weapons nowadays. andre is a writer and analyst his latest book called losing military supremacy, the myopia of american strategic planning. and you can see more of his musings on

his blog at smooth the x 12 dot blog spot dot com. andre, thank you so much for joining us today. so 1st i gotta ask you, for these people paying close attention to the news on the conflict and ukraine, we're hearing many different types of missiles are being used. can you give us a brief, no pun intended, crash course on the differences between some of these missile systems such as, you know, cruise missiles, glide bombs, the ballistic missiles, and especially the new hypersonic missile systems. um, lets start from the m here. let's start with the type of phonics it, because there is a lot of confusion involved this a situation, especially in the west, a hypertonic nice solid, is the missile, which weiss or for the aircraft, which flies with dispute about mach 5. that means a 5 speeds of the sound,

but here is the problem and this has to be in the problem for many years now since it's a rush, it announced the deployment of the operational high performing the weapons. for example bodies, stephanie solve for inter continental while it took me file, is the messiah, which weiss, with many more speeds of sound, for example, mach 20 sample. and this by definition makes us supersonic, except for one thing, those new 5 like enter, continue, have somebody stiffness asked even if they fly by the suppressed trajectory, they still fly above the earth atmosphere. and in this case, it's kind of moved to point if they help us so many speeds are found because they fly barcode the average up the reaction in the open space. the space as when know approximate the size of the elevation of 100 kilometers from the appraisal, the earth and but what more than a hypertonic nice house are in the south,

which fly with them earth atmosphere exceeding the speed of song by flies. and the more by ross is the only concert which part of the assets and the voice and actually use this thread, devastating effect a full spectrum of their, of high performance nissans. for example, one of those measles is that the control, the cell which is known as iron bodies, stiffness, it is missed which flies in cost, right? but we still projectors that means the bark or would slide pretty much as a new balise thickness out. it also flies on the board fly, being powered by use engine, then the engine shots, off and on the file. as you know, basic physics tells us, be useful why as a ballistic missile, ballistic project that another matter there. so in advance that they can maneuver throughout all of which storage you have to re including especially to the products of the founder and they fly with the loss of just

a few show. you can draw velocities between ma, from 9 am them. now we're beginning to have the feedback that actually it's gonna fly within mar, 13th. they both are not in the south of elk, but in charlotte despite the fact that it's still being maneuverable, definitely come back, all of which slide it on the empower i call l. y 3 m 20th through zillow on your cell, which most of the more than the russian ships, garrett this as a full blown cruise. and you saw this, a smoke bodies stick off by side, but least of all iron. nobody's thickness, side light control, which is launched from the aircraft. that messiah like 3 m $20.00. com. it's uh, genuine in shipping and the land that baffles me. so i'll, because it flies all over its flight path on that is a file we're using, screw around your app, which going some good powers it. and while it keeps the thought that it's still operates on, that it's own power, the velocity of the circle,

and that usually is around from a mock 9 to or some of them. and then you force on the older one which is coming up would probably be in excess of mock 13 and uh, that's the type of hyper funding levels we are talking about. and that was in the last, so just be facets of those type of sonic nice size is of course strategic. uh, type of funny uh, gliding blogs, gold, one guard 2 regiments of this. i haven't gotten the file blocks driven by there. one is there a russian who used to be desperately dismiss our system, carrying a regular police? do cox accounts like me or multiple independent 3 of the vehicles. now those celiac new science that america carriers of their own garden blogs which have their speeds in access is march 27th. and they slide by basically gliding at over there are

a or at most here. and there are also many more of a 3 types of those new size. they are comfortable both from that are and this are kind of funny. can this as various? nobody's glasses, cruise missiles, you can see one of them is which is of course american they bgm one, all 9 lamb that tactical landed back in the south. the hawk russians kept a variety. oh, those nice houses. they are stops on you like 3 and 14, which is great. most caliber, while a russia is also the point, high sugar sonic, which is why the speed of a kind of funny can decides about still high supersonic speeds. and these are mazda 2 point, twice a nice house, such as p 800 onyx and this off to me, science. and they vary in range and in they actually,

if i be with you. yeah. and uh, in terms of the targets that selected for. so i think so that's pretty much, it was 40. yeah, we've been going back to believe sickness as a classic ballistic missile. so which one of the things that 19 feet just avenue south, which on the fall or flight due to deliver those are what it's called the a bass. basically it's the same so to speak, where you have the number of them years, a multiple in the front of the re entry vehicle costs which are thrown into space and dump fly their accelerate, and then fly with scholastic bodies. took me science without mind. you worry, and that's what used to be basically a domain, say all that you create the torrents both and saw me if you any, and the roster and united states no updates, everything change in this respect. and now we have seen russia most recently, use glide bombs to devastating effect in the past few months. why are these weapons

so affective and why can't, who crane or in fact, their western benefactors really develop a plan to respond to these types of bombs? well, um, federated ukraine have some type of there are different systems for example, delayed or worse of which they have 19 eighties. uh uh, for example of the s $300.00 and they have some poor m won a short range or the process of dates separately to, to south intercept at least some of those bombs. but russia was pretty successful in suppressing a air defense of their what that was left, go with an armed forces of your brain, including those restaurant supplied weapons such as like, nice arms. they just got enough in percent those live in bonds. and now obviously they are much free or are in terms of operating the launching those blogging bombs,

bloss, most of them are beyond the range of what's left of their uh, your premium air defense. so in this particular case, yeah, there, there's very little they can do, you know, they might get like you're shooting one or 2 maybe, but they will be able to sustain any kind old there are. you want me to getting off . i'm going to strikes against those bumps, they will what this called in military science lead car, the leak are being the project, our me side, which been afraid to the air defense. a russians have many, all those leak or a snowball days, precisely because the ukraine of defense was pretty successfully. i will say 9090 percent of with suppressed. and i later or you know, they can all of those operations what, what have you now recently ukrainian forces claim to have taken down a russian kendral missile, which was part of russia's next gen h. s. m arsenal. they say they took it down with the us patriot air defense system

1st. can that be true? and is there any sort of anti missile system that can take down and it's just um, at present or, or is there anything being developed to counter them? and if so, what sort of capabilities would those things need? do you create new implants? a company called the office of western media, you immediately started to spread this absolutely all morning. no, they are different, complex copying. arson, all of and you made are concrete, including the united states, can pick and shout out that uh us, we're not talking about the one path along the way through the back one, which is it was a joke. it was the small performance of the 1st gulf war, but on the latest or some of the page or on the back, 3 employees name and made me saw, which is m i m 104 f. i believe it's a speed is uh,

4.2 my 4.2 is a 5 super sonya black north hyper funny to me. so which will not simply sustain the jewels which it needs to intercept you have on the shelf wine of mock. there is one thing stuck on you there as alter tooth of this new solve the solve to speak apart from the range which is beyond the reach is 20 kilometers. give us off weiss actually at the height of 30 kilometers. and then at that, it's, well, it's 5 get vertically down. so united states doesn't have any technology. we just capable intercept, something like in job or for that matter, slow we're left with the mass is come there, a body, stick me file. so this is, of course, was there cakes and you start peach was before the graph with the actually the concrete bought the boat, the top young lady that is getting shot. it was debunked already by many military

professionals and all the rest of the united states. unless you've been talking about european is nowhere near to produce anything which can actually need to gauge the sol, walk on the phone, it can these files. it'd be there in shaw or 0 or left alone. strategic hypersonic blocks such as their of on got. this is completely out of the question and uh, in terms of air defense, united states, actually these uh, back behind the rush or not in here. it is in generation. yeah. so the problem here is obviously the, primarily a media circus. yeah. and uh, obviously their agenda, they trying to push now there is nothing which can stop it unless there and decide itself. you know, it just breaks down and then that doesn't reach anywhere but ukraine didn't, should, in your thing. in fact, is your brand cannot ship, most of in,

you find the new south of gold rush all launches there. and here comes the other thing in order for you to intercept something like a hypertonic weapon. i actually presented some basic operational and technical um, calculations in my 2nd book, there are no other ocean in military affairs and you have a very bizarre chance which is rather slow basically. uh it be uh no significant at all. or you should probably have very many new files which creates some kind of the stream downstairs that you might somehow get. but no, you cannot shut that down, drop us for it. and there is another thing that how you want to develop the firing solution against the fact that to which most like you may not even see you too, is flying in. there are couple blogs my got home and which is my new word and

both. uh, well, actually every single russian me solve is maneuvering only its final terminal approach. and some of them are new or violent. and so you, there's no way they can. and i suspected that was fake news that the patriot system couldn't take down the control. i'm glad you cleared that up for us now. hypothetically, how would israel's iron don't fair up in that match up? for simple reason, i don't don't, is basically designed for an intercept in, in actually quite substantial wholesale quantity is all there all come off and has, well, with this full cartoon shot records, those are slower bodies stick. uh, you know, uh, targets and they accelerate tools sometimes my one point to i believe, but most of most of them are even stopped sony. so and their idea because they are very easy to track and develop firing social for something that you already can see

clearly on your radar or any other means of detection and tracking. so yeah, in terms of the more than the warfare on the more of them battlefield, it gives them more than all strikes the funds to, especially if wine would defy supersonic speeds. it's absolutely useless. right, coming up next unintended consequences. a multi decades old warning comes to fruition. joe biden ignores american advice from the past. we'll discuss it when we return with andre montana. sit tight, the m o will be right back. the the,

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civilians. the well known greatest newspaper, the morning post called dyer, the man who saved india, gave him a sword and 26000 pounds sterling as a token of gratitude for the massacre. the amorous star massacre wind down in history as one of the most brutal crimes of the british invaders, and only escalated the affair. struggle of the indians for liberation from the colonial yoke. the the blogger back to the m. o. i am manila chance. so it's not a new idea in us foreign policy circles that america should avoid any clustering that could push then the soviet union into alignment with china. though the ussr is

no more the union between russia and china seems to be unfolding before our very eyes to andre marty and off is back with us. so andre, many critics of us foreign policy say the west and unintended consequence in their actions in supporting ukraine and pastoring and taiwan have now drawn russia and china into this new alliance and military block that could counter us position as a military super power. we already see this alliance, as evidenced by the c s t o, the collective security treaty organization, with russia and china, obviously anchoring that group. how do you see the russia, china partnership shaping up in the years to come? should the collective west be concerned? when you fall on the spam, the united states is not a land sold. our power cannot stand in the conventional war and your up against the russia,

for example. and they know this most people in center gone. cool. i'm not funny. to go gregory, or they know there are a combination of the military follow for action and trying to search only one thing . then your cons brian matter before on us a foreign policy today, they still consider trying to, to be the 5. it's not part of what they felt that they will dispose of for us are really for asked in the to do one and a half years involved. but now they need to deal with trying to, trying to equal moment to the doors being united states, militarily, how our trying are is not as established power as rushing terms of what you have in terms of native to. and here's where the united states rise to a leverage. one, the less advantage just across united states because excellent, maybe it for all of it's for up of problems and for all of it's nearing up so lessons. but when you put it together with their excellent us,

maybe submarine for us, which is march by the chinese one, you will see immediately why russia they are try know, i'm trying to expression this is rasa is where are you? pardon me? the 3 a lie because of russia may pro, i am already east providing china with required knowledge and operational expertise with china might news in case the united states one strong these, the war in the asia pacific region. and that in this case, well, it shouldn't go strong for august adults, people in the washington who want only for world war 3. because if i'm going to the united states already is not a competitor in especially a roster trainees. if i'm only if you will union or alliance which forward yet, the fact the easiest boss are joining us for us us. uh yeah, we looked at all of our light though. is it beeps, we compare, but the thing is with the largest and it looks like the are russians and chinese

moines in that direction to now we hear a lot in the media about how russia is running out of missiles any truth to that. i mean, what is russia's true production capability, and is that set to increase at all? no. conversely, on the us and nato have a backlog of orders to arm ukraine. the us cannot seem to meet the demand. is russia really going to be in that same position as the u. s. one of the major miscalculation strategic miscalculations which actually denotes yeah, it's assigned or the death or there is a base or a grilled order of approximate economy is the fact that united states and i wrote 3 books on there never had a clue about the size of rocks on the call, maybe it has some new stuff which on stage or the washer pride uses number, openness styles. more than the whole world combine. and they don't understand how often the economy works and they don't understand how russian military industrial

complex operates. and russia are, produces united states in every single apartment. united states actually may combine in every single category of there are neither 3 material beat them, new sizes be themselves, be them, thanks be done. what have you, you can take a look at the speed with which we're russia, or original weights and updates is nuclear submarine forces right now in how many sheets of rush approaches as bill from now. yup. is a strong issue and they involve. so it's a little cold, so obviously as usual, and now they expect that to, you know, basically tumble off, you know, a crumble within a month or 2. they are evidently people that don't understand for 3 of the companies. they cannot know any final thoughts or perhaps predictions on how the course of this conflict and ukraine is going to play out over the next. i don't

know, let's say this year as i paid for it. as of this, may i see it being cassandra, for of course i can look no, possibly. i don't care if i'm not information, only people who have information it. bob, all of them are me to 3 political thought in russia journal style from the books places you'd be going to be able to get near or around them. but i would say that we are seeing that and also on sources of your grand, actually a rush. i use finality as i speak for iteration or there are a ukrainian army. and um, and if you want to see what is going on, i will, uh, you know, ask people to go back to december 2021. and the russian sagal ultimate, all, everything there is already a state are very clearly what the roster one store chip and this will be, it will be that you the rolling nature back to me or the 1997 borders. or would you be problems now? very, a possible,

very probable scenario. this integration was made as such. and when you look at these steps, i would say russia issued more than that. you would expect that and it will continue on to rush appropriate bills, the land bridge between our if your phone reach on and across new street and the people who left off of ukraine. if anything in the rush, it will be dictating copy deletion condition. so that's pretty much it, that's what i'm expecting. the andre montana. thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. now. make sure you check out andre stuff at smooth the x 12 the number 12 dot blog spot dot com and check out his newest book called losing military supremacy. thank you so much, andre. oh, thank you. all right, that's going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila chance. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o.

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