about supplying arms to the key or for shame rages on. we'll take a look at what sorts of weapons the collective west is contending with. while the us boast itself as the supreme military in the world and the main supplier of arms to ukraine, does its arsenal actually stack up? in terms of modern capabilities? we'll talk to a retired russian naval engineer who breaks down exactly what these modern missiles can do. all right, let's get into the m o. the you may have heard the stories about the ghost of t f or the midst of snake island early on in the ukraine conflict. by now, you probably know they were fake news. there was never a ukrainian top gun fighter pilot who took down dozens of russian jets. the soldiers on snake island never cursed out the russian military before being blown

up. in fact, they were actually captured safely and then arrested. the story of martyrdom never happened. the more recent stories, however, are ones that defy the laws of physics, their tails of text versus tech, missile capabilities and advanced arsenals. since you create a is not a manufacturer of these products simply the end user. today's fairytales are that of russian military technology versus those from the u. s. u. k, france and germany. that would be perfectly honest. i am certainly no arms expert, much less have the science background to explain how these things work. so we will bring in a man who is an expert with the proper technological training in their development . andre martina is a retired russian navy engineer. he's got advanced degrees in engineering such weapons nowadays. andre is a writer and analyst his latest book called losing military supremacy,

the myopia of american strategic planning. and you can see more of his musings on his blog at smooth the x 12 dot blog spot dot com. andre, thank you so much for joining us today. so 1st i gotta ask you, for these people paying close attention to the news on the conflict and ukraine, we're hearing many different types of missiles are being used. can you give us a brief, no pun intended, crash course on the differences between some of these missile systems such as, you know, cruise missiles, glide bombs, the ballistic missiles, and especially the new hypersonic missile systems. um, lets start from the m tier list. i know the type of phonics it because there is a lot of confusion involved this a situation, especially in the west or hypersonic. nice. so is the missile, which wise for the aircraft, which flys with the speed above mach 5?

that means a 5 speeds of the sound. but here is the problem, and this has to be in the problem for many years now. since it's a rush, i announced the deployment of the operational hyper funny to the weapons. for example, balise, the kenesaw for inter continental bodies took the file, is the messiah, which weiss, with many more speeds of sound, for example, mach $27.00, and this by definition makes us supersonic, except for one thing, those new size, like into our cartoon, you have somebody stiffness as even if they fly by the suppressed trajectory, they still fly above the earth atmosphere. and in this case, it's kind of moved point, you have the helpless so many speeds are found because the flight barcode, the average up the reaction it in the open space. the space as when know approximate the size of the elevation of 100 kilometers from the appraisal, the earth and but what more than

a hypertonic nice house are. i've been nice as which why with them earth atmosphere is sitting the speed of song by flies and the more packs to ross. he's the only country which part of the assets and the voice and actually use this thread. devastating effect on the full spectrum of the high performance nissans. for example, one of those measles is that the control, the cell which is known as iron bodies, stiffness, it is missed which flies in cost, right? but at least it's red. yeah. that means the bark or would slide pretty much as a new body stiffness out. it also flies on the bob board, fly being powered by use engine, then the engine shots, off and on the file. as you know, basic physics tells us, be useful. why? well as a ballistic missile, ballistic project that another matter there. so in advance that they can maneuver throughout all of which storage you have to re including especially to their

products from the founder and they fly with the loss of just a few show. you can drive velocities between ma, 9, m, them. now we're beginning to have their feedback that actually it's don't fly within mach 13. they both are not intercept the bulk but in shot despite the fact that it's still being maneuverable. definitely come back, all of which slide it on the if own power a call at 13 m 20th through zillow on your cell, which most all of the more than the russian ship scary. this is a full blown cruise and you saw this a smoke body stick off of outside the least the iron. nobody's picked me. so i like control. we just launched from the aircraft that messiah like 3 m 20. com. it's uh genuine impact shipping. and the lines are factory was me solid because it flies all over its flight path on that is a ball work using scram. jeff,

which going some good powers it and while it gives the thought it, it's still operates on that it's own power. the velocity of the circle, and that's usually is around from a mock 9 to or some of them. and the new version of the older one which is coming up would probably be, are in excess of mach 13. and that's the type of corporate funding levels we're talking about. and that was in the last, so just be facets of those type of sonic nice size is of course strategic carpet. funny uh, gliding blocks gold on got to regiments of this. i haven't gotten the file blocks driven by there. one of their russians who used to be their strategic miss our system during regular bodies to cock accounts, like near multiple independent 3 of the vehicles. now those steely new style. so that america carriers, if they're on guard blogs,

which have their speeds in excess of march 27th and they slide by basically gliding over. there are a yours at most here. and there are also many wearable a 3 types of those. and you fast, they, i can throw both from that are and this are carpet fun can be sounds very slow, but it's a glass of cruise missiles. you can see one of them is which is of course americans may be gm, one all 9 lam, a tactical landed back in the south. tomahawk russians kept the variety, oh, those nice houses. they are socks on you, like 3 and 14, which is frame us kind of work. while a restaurant is also the point high, supersonic, which is why the speed of our, of hi, veronica decides about still high supersonic speeds. and these are mazda, 2 point, twice me size, such as p 800 onyx and this off to me,

science. and they vary in range and in they actually it by religion. yeah. and up in terms of the targets they're selected for. so i think so that's pretty much it was for so yeah, we for going back to believe sickness as a classic ballistic missile. so which one of the things that 19 fif just album yourselves, which on the power flight due to deliver those are what it's called the a bass. basically it's the same so to speak, where you have the number of them years, a multiple in the front of the re entry vehicle costs which are thrown into space and then fly their accelerate. and then fly with scholastic bodies. took me science without mind. you worry and that's what used to be basically a domain say all that you created torrance, both and saw me if you any. and the roster and united states know updates everything change in this respect. now we have seen russia most recently,

use glide bonds to devastating effect in the past few months. why are these weapons so affective and why can't who crane or impact their western benefactors really develop a plan to respond to these types of bombs? well, um, federated ukraine have some type of there are different systems for example, the late or worse of which they have 19 eighties. uh uh for example of the s 300 and they have some poor m won. are short range or the process of they separately to, to south intercept at least some of those bombs. but russia was pretty successful in suppressing a air defense of their what that was left, go with an armed forces as of your brain, including those risk of supply the weapons, such as like, nonsense, they just can look into the same, those logs. and now obviously they are much free or,

or in terms of operating and watching those variety booms, bloss, most of them are beyond the range is what's left over there. are your premium air defense. so in this frontier for case yeah, there, there's very little they can do, you know, they might get like you're shooting one or 2 maybe, but they will be able to sustain any kind old there are you want me to getting are, are going to strikes against those bumps, they will what this called in military science, lee car, the leak are being the project guy when he saw which been afraid to the air defense, a russian scout manual, those liquor snowball days, precisely because the ukraine of defense was pretty successfully. i will say 9090 percent of was suppressed and i later or you know, they can all of those operations what, what's happening now recently ukrainian forces claim to have taken down a russian tinge all missile which was part of russia's next gen

h. s. m arsenal. they say they took it down with the us patriot air defense system 1st. can that be true? and is there any sort of anti missile system that can take down and it just um, at present or, or is there anything being developed to counter them? and if so, what sort of capabilities would those things need? do you create a new implants, a company called the office of western media. you immediately started to spread this opposite will bubble on, you know, they are different, complex copying austin, all of annual nature or concrete in the united states can pick and shout out. is that uh us, we're not talking about the on the back wall. no pay through the back one, which is it was a joke. it was the small performance of the 1st gulf war. but the latest version of the page on the back, 3 employees name made me file,

which is m i m 104 f. i believe it's, uh, speed is uh, 4.2 my 4.2. yes. all right, super sonya black north hypersonic me so which will not simply sustain the jewels, which it needs to intercept you have on the can solve why of mock, then it's one thing stuck on there as i'll do to, to this new solve that. so i'll just be apart from the range which is beyond the reach is 20 kilometers. kennesaw flies actually at the height of 30 kilometers. and then if that's it's well it stops get vertically down. so united states doesn't have any technology. we just capable intercept something like in job or for that matter. slower and less of the mass is come there. the bodies took me file. so this of course was their cakes. and you start peach was before the graphs with the actually the concrete bought the boat,

the thought young lady that is getting shot, it was debunked already by many military professionals and all the rest of the united states. i'm up, you've been talking about europe and is nowhere near to produce anything which can actually need to gauge the solve or the phone. it can be as files, it'd be there in shaw or 0 call left alone strategic hypersonic blocks such as their on god. this is completely out of the question, and in terms of air defense, united states, actually these back behind the rush or not in here, it is in generation. yeah. so the problem here is obviously the, primarily a media circus. and uh, obviously the jump are they trying to push? now there is nothing which can stop it. unless they're new style itself. you know, it just breaks down and then that doesn't reach anywhere. but your brain didn't

show anything. in fact, is your brand cannot ship, most of in you find the new south of goals. rochelle launch is there. and here comes the other thing. in order for you to intercept something like a hypertonic weapon. i actually presented some basic operational and tactical calculations in my 2nd book. there are no other ocean in military affairs, and you have a very bizarre chance, which is rather slow, basically. uh it be, uh, no significant at all. uh, you should probably have very many new styles which creates some kind of the stream downstairs if you might somehow get but no, you cannot shut that down, drop us for it. and there is another thing that how you want to develop the firing solution against the targets, which most like you may not even see you too. it's flying in. there are couple

blogs my got home and which is my new word and both. uh, well, actually, every single russian miss out is when your ring on its final terminal approach and some of them are new or violent. and so you're, there is no way they can that i suspected that was fake news that the patriot system couldn't take down the control. i'm glad you cleared that up for us now. hypothetically, how would israel's iron don't fair up in that match up? for simple reason, i don't don't, is basically designed for an intercept in, in actually quite substantial wholesale quantity is all there all come off and has, well, with this whole country shot records, both are slower bodies stick. uh, you know, uh tablets and they accelerate tools sometimes my one point to i believe, but most and most of them are even stopped sony. so,

and their idea because they are very easy to track and develop firing social for something that you already can see. clearly on your radar or any other means of detection and tracking. so yeah, in terms of the more than the warfare on the more them battlefield, it gives them more than our stripes. the weapons, especially if wine would defy supersonic speeds, it's absolutely useless. right. coming up next, unintended consequences. a multi decades old warning comes to fruition. joe biden ignores american advice from the past. we'll discuss it when we return with andre martina. sit tight, the m o will be right back. the the

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the walking back to the m. o, i am the no chance. so it's not a new idea in us foreign policy circles that america should avoid any clustering that could push then the soviet union into alignment with china. though the ussr is no more the union between russia and china seems to be unfolding before our very eyes. andre marty and off is back with us. so andre many critics of us foreign policy say the west and unintended consequence in their actions in supporting ukraine and pastoring and tie. one have now drawn russia and china into this new alliance and military block that could counter us position as

a military super power. we already see this alliance, as evidenced by the c s t o, the collective security treaty organization, with russia and china. obviously, anchoring that group. how do you see the russia, china partnership shaping up in the years to come? should the collective west be concerned? when you fall on the spam, the united states is not a land sold. our power cannot stand in the conventional war in your up against the russia. for example, i'm doing all this, most people in center gone. cool. i'm not funny to go, gregory. or they know there are a combination of the military follow flashing, trying to search only one thing then your cons brian matter before on us foreign policy today, they still consider trying to, to be the 5. it's number one. they felt that they will dispose of for us are really for asked in the to do one and a half years involved. but now then you have to deal with trying to trying it.

you're from moment to the doors, the united states, militarily, how our trying are is not as uh, just um, as far as the washing terms of what you have in terms of made it to. and here's where the united states rifle a leverage. one, the less advantages if, as united states, because excellent, maybe a for all of with for up of problems and for all of its nearing up so lessons. but when you put it together with their excellent, yes, maybe some are waiting for us, which is march by the train. use one. you will see me that the why russia, they are try know, i'm trying to, especially this is a rasa is where are you? pardon me, the 3 a lot, because a russia may pro i am already east providing china with the required knowledge and operational expertise. we're trying to mike news in case the united space on strong these the war in the asia pacific region. and that in this case was it should

because shown for august adults, people in the washington who want only for world war 3. because if i'm going to the united states already is not a competitor in especially a roster, and he's become mom if you union alliance, which for the the fact the exist box joining of the forces. uh, yeah, we looked at all of our, like though, is it beeps, we compare, but the thing is with them largest and it looks like the are russians and chinese moines in that direction. now we hear a lot in the media about how russia is running out of missiles. any truth to that, i mean, what is russia's true production capability? and is that set to increase at all? no, conversely, on the us and nato have a backlog of orders to arm ukraine, the us cannot seem to meet the demand. is russia really going to be in that same position as the us is one of the major miscalculation strategic miscalculations

which actually denotes yeah, it's a sign or the death of there is a base or a grilled order of approximated. com is the fact that the united states and i wrote 3 books on there never had a clue about the size of rocks on the comedy is new stuff, which in state of the rush up right uses, number of new styles. more than the whole world combine, and they don't understand how often the calling me on the works and they don't understand how russian military industrial complex operates and russia are, produces united states in every single apartment. united states actually may combine in every single category of there are neither 3 material. read them new files to be themselves, be them. thanks be them. what have you. you can take a look at the speed with which russia are original, weights and updates. is nuclear submarine force as right now,

and how many shoots of rush approaches as bill from now? yeah, is astonishing. and they involved. so it's a little cold. so obviously as usual, and now they expected to, you know, basically tumble off, you know, a crumble within a month or 2. they are evidently people that don't understand what the comedy is. they cannot know any final thoughts or perhaps predictions on how the course of this conflict and ukraine is going to play out over the next. i don't know, let's say this year i paid for it. as of this me, he'd be in cassandra to start. so of course i cannot know, possibly i don't have enough information. only people who have information about all their armies or 3 political thought in the rush of general style from the books, places you can get with the up near or around them. but i would say that we are seeing that an off on sources of your grand actually a rush. i use finality as i speak for iteration or there are

a ukrainian army. and um, and if you want to see what is going on, i will, uh, you know, ask people to go back to december 2021 in the russian circle all to make all everything there is already a state are very clearly what the rifle the in store tube and this will be, it will be that you the rolling nature of back them or the 1997 borders or would you be problems now very possible, very probable scenario. this integration was made as such. and uh, when you look at these steps, i would say russia issued more than the you will next steps up. and it will continue onto a rush approach to build the land bridge between our if you're from region and across new strength and the people who left off your brain. if anything in russia will be dictating copies deletion conditions. that's pretty much it,

that's what i'm expecting. the andre montana. thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. now. make sure you check out andre stuff at smooth the x 12 the number 12 dot blog spot dot com and check out his newest book called losing military supremacy. thank you so much. andre, oh, thank you. all right, that's going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila, chad. thank you for 2 and again, we'll see you again next time to figure out the m o the

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