you personally and the ukraine in your playing the ukraine in leadership with that uh something something real capital business as regards to the invitation of ukraine to the van lines. but i don't think that's feasible. first of all, because while the except uh some fiercely and very rational stays like a baltic stays full and uh, we would like to see uh you create an inmate that tomorrow be respectful, the consequences. uh well, there are a lot of, uh, there are many european countries which oppose this, at least until the crisis is over. more or even the, by the administration though use against the has the innovation of ukraine and tomorrow. or i will say that. but if i am sure that the informal

contacts became a russian government, the us government, i saying that the russians size will have all ready been leave, or if not, we will deliver it. very clear. saying now that if your brain is in by they have the war of will not be over. because that's was one of the main goals of the restaurant special operations to prevent your trade in membership inmate airlines of course. and they could try that for and say, look, rush, i made a mistake. that's why they do is going to allow them in the most of the ca, bill buttons. former, i'm best of the to moscow. you made the secret trip, apparently, to caesar lensky. you think a bill buttons might have been explaining, does it lensky way? obviously, ukraine gone joining nato, because that would mean logical 5 would require a britain and who knows who else to attack russia. this is for

the visit. the bill burns the key and recently i've seen that uh yes. and this the, i agree that the one of the, one of the points on the gym that was the ukranian ukranian aspirations. as for uh, joining the alliance. i am sure that uh, there is uh, explain the current to us position and prospect. so ukraine in a may, the more i, i suspect that even in the united states, you respect people, these claims that they will support deeply or your brand as long as i mean, uh, they understand that the, uh, the, the picture on the bed battlefield is not in favor of you. oh uh the is a very, very uh why of the size,

the actions as counter offensive or offensive. i don't understand why count that are going to be fully counter offensive because russia, uh, there's not, there's no impact. well, uh, was not offensive to the paintings. do a launch counter, think it's a rush or that has the counter offensive in effect, since the 2014 through this right then more over i think that the calendar friends are, will be launched by russian federation. i don't know where i'm at in a week and months maybe in a couple of months, but uh for sure. uh the this uh, this, uh, uh, the stage of conflict will uh, initially the rest encounter offensive and, but i am sure it will be successful. so i think that the americans understand that sooner or later they've got to sit down at the table and find some solution, the magic a peaceful solution to the conflict. and yeah,

of course i who is there and explained to as the landscape that she is a black is kind of a fan busy. it's kind of we full changing the the bottom there was of 1991 tried me back ever send back preparations, contributions. so there wants to play a winner. it will never happen. do you know? bill burns? yes, i know bill there is a i got acquainted with him when he was invested. there us invested in law school them during my um, well there is uh, visitors through washington. i had to meet in smithville veterans where he was buried to have the uh, the statement, but yeah, do you think? yeah, he's a sensible sort of person because what do you think of the fact that in britain,

vera politicians talking about the need to go to wall out war with russia rather than presumably using ukraine is a proxy and the fact that other states in europe, but talking about the need to start, i don't know, blowing up parts of russia as well. uh. you see, i don't understand the, uh, the whole of course uh the uh and by, uh, russian, uh, uh, so far the position of great britain it is not the, the is the secret is being like this for, for the kids for the 1st centers. so we have no illusions about the the position of do you think bill barnes understands that? well, bill barnes. uh bill barons uh is uh a different story about the about bill bearings. uh, yuki, i just wondered whether you thought, since you knew bill bins,

current head of the ca, whether he would recognize that some of the voices in your a but not practical. yes, of course. of course i am sure about that. i am sure about that. he recognizes that the position of some countries is extreme as a model. where are there, there is now a lot of talk about, especially in the u. k. the don't be afraid of russia don't be afraid of nuclear weapons is not so it's not so bad. jersey has no so frightening. we can. uh, just uh, 5 the limited the limited nuclear war uh, in the ukraine or in the russian. is it so are asking us and so well i, i, i don't know. no, i can't understand why a reasonable people and they believe that the boat in and you gave me and do you get government in the governments of other european concept,

even the baltics and they are uh, they are reasonable enough not to talk about new play reference because it's a, it's episode they are responsible. this message is perfectly especially therefore re i'll get on to nuclear weapons a in a 2nd. but of course media restricts is restricted in britain very uh, very strictly. you can't talk about nazis and ukraine, yukon, talk about zalinski stepping elections next. yeah. so it's not a democracy, but in the media landscape, can you understand that confusion because they're all they talk about is the pre, goshen, much the moscow. i mean what, what exactly happened because precautions seems to be strengthened showing who is strengthened. puche it is strengthened and the media don't know in nato countries how to describe what actually happened. even they are not really saying anymore,

oh, put it is about to full. what, what's your understanding of what happened on june 24th? well, uh is it is all about money. it's all about money. it would be because. uh, regarding uh was uh is, is it a business man? uh yes, with uh some uh terminal affairs but he has a business name. she. uh, is the owner of the huge uh, catherine company. uh to morrow where he is. uh he used to be, oh, i don't know the state though. uh the, the status now, but there was the owner of, uh, uh, traded notes or company. uh, wagner mc. it came from the states from the minister of defense president put in uh, moist out uh recently the figures in yearly, as on the,

on the uh, catering contract with the minister of defense g. last years. here are 1000000000 years dollars in years currency bloss here and a love seat, but uh the speed be to use uh, people in the company. uh more than 1000000000 years dollars as uh their salaries insurance. uh, all kinds of compensations. uh. so g, she was doing quite good, quite a lot of money, but uh when uh to use uh, i would say uh, quarter oh, misunderstandings with us to show you more. and i just thought you guys are more stop in it though. finish that uh for uh for this year the minister of defense uh, if used to prolong k, they're in the contract 1st, 2nd, the middle. so defense decided that, oh uh, bottom years old,

private companies and a wise man is not the only private manager company which is acting in the, in the ukraine. all of these companies. uh, sure, uh, signing a contract with the minister of defense. and uh, actually uh uh for themselves on the direct command or not on the company, but the direct amount of the minister of defense to pardon was the only leader of the owner of the private company who refused. after that, uh, show us that in this case uh you are out of the back of you. you may have whenever you want to in africa in asia where you study the or do anything about the brand and ukraine, only complex units subordinate the general stuff. so the master of defense will

continue a special operation after that. of course. uh gordon. when furious and uh, actually uh the these uh, riskless them absolutely senseless. uh, next. well, were talking about the wagner group, but uh, is the fact that rushes administrator defense allows privatize ation. in the 4th is a problem with some sort of legacy of the neo liberal ninety's. do you think that has to be a re thinking the russian ministry of defense of using private contract is i know you've said that in the nato may suffer because of using private contract is just the manufacturer of munition to replace that destroyed by the russian army as well, you see i have nothing against the private company as i remember the, the, it was uh, in uh, 2010. uh, besides the mind, when the conversations in the minister of defense started about the private

companies, which used to be in the west, especially the us companies in iraq. uh like, uh, like what their and the others about. it was agreed to that to try the company is i need the, the, the broad aware uh, official, uh, official, uh, and russian, uh, military, uh, uh, involvement is not, is not advisable. uh, for the political reasons. so uh then uh, working there, um was uh, organized uh at 1st it was in uh, 2011. i don't remember. exactly. and the, uh their uh, area of, uh, responsibility defined me like this was uh, made the effort to advisors training. theres uh, instructors, uh,

so with very little support. i mean uh from the viewpoint of materials from the minister of defense box. uh, the for me to go uh, galleries was provided. is that a general vision scale stop, you have more from the chairman of the executive council at the russian center for policy studies after this break the, the, but the not a court to go, we use and i made a good salem, but i just need the child support, knowledge and was hoping more on the go green, kia do more for quote, the cost of getting the has the information last year when he

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welcome back to going on to go. and i'm still here with you ever get any vision scheme which i tend to general of the rush it i'm forced, isn't chapman of the executive council of the russian incentive of policy studies. so we were talking about the wagner and privatization, of course, some in russia, a talking about class elements in the current conflict. i mean, why is it anecdotally, people talk about the rich russians being able to escape the draft and the poor ones having to go to the front? was that always their breath? since the russian federation was created to have to the full of the soviet union was as a new thing. uh, well, uh sir. so uh, i don't know to agree that uh reach uh the state park and uh on that. of course. uh there is uh some uh, social inequality in the pressure like in, uh oh uh, free market campuses, maybe in the rest of the,

the gap as to why that's true about uh, people who are about find the trade. especially volunteers, especially people. so very a signed contracts with the minister on defense. now if you guys, each of the $1400.00 people uh, signing a contract with the minister of defense and uh, going through your trade. uh since the 1st of january deal. uh yes, to the $0.10 with $85000.00 people all the way the same contracts with the minister of defense. so if that's the, the, the, the very uh both you got it for uh, for me and reserves for the future down there offensive, by the way. uh so, uh, i know what a lot of people from doing well uh, a month to reach. uh,

but uh, from uh, the family lives with larry and some income. cool. uh, voluntary uh, when through your brain and uh, finding uh for, for, for the goals of the, i guess i will have to wait for the statistics on that. one question its uh, as of them being honest and of course, the nature of countries of last was in recent, he is in iraq, afghanistan, and they be syria, but they usually start off by a really bombarding cities. why is rush, you're not used to force to bomb. you grant this? there's this uh, very uh, good question. reach. i was asked by my american grant. this is a european mcqueen. especially america. why didn't you uh, bomb, uh, ukraine. as soon as you get all the asked if you're already in,

you'll get the read all the meals. and by the way, the 1st 2 weeks when a russian army managed to destroy pettigrew a whole meal in search infrastructure. i mean uh, air base is a manual basis, although without a fleet but still be the uh, and buy a truck system. but uh that was the a c. um i may agree or not, but then that's the position of the present. the civilians are still being killed in don't yet every other day. right. and we also get money at them. but frankly, i don't understand why we, uh, the, uh, in fact of some of some uh, elements of reflection. the elements, especially pages, especially right away a little bit, but it was uh, it seems like i said, with the new civilian objects of the infrastructure and that's position of the

president, but not the effect of the as it relates to structure on the page and a lot of people did not understand this, but that's the position of the russian president and the russian got. maybe it's because when they to does it and has done it in iraq, afghanistan, and they'd be in syria, they ended up losing the was. who knows? so is the plan to just wait for all this west and weapon? read the queue up and certainly destroy every tank. every hymer, every of whatever multi $1000000.00 piece of equipment being given away, does it ends. e comes up and just destroyed all one by one be fact. beach was a sped expected, especially by the landscape by you praying. that was stomach. we've been, we will be the magic major to speak from 4 of those are the 3 in your brain. turned out to be my list speaking not true. well,

actually since the 4th of june is going to be in the official information of the minister of defense ukraine, a loss more than to 20000 people or best male and above 1000 pieces of armor, including banks, a cds, and o. uh, other armies. vehicles. uh so we, uh, i do not expect that. uh yes, americans decided it does look like, uh, some uh, sir. the uh, visa. so bradley, but the cnbc goes twin. did sir. the uh well, uh, parts or go or yeah. bought, you know, uh from your store. uh, supply for uh, leopard. uh, bags for 620. it doesn't matter. it's not the number. uh which is uh, is that so for uh, for the sliding in the, in the, in the, in, in your trade. i am sure that 1st of all, uh, sooner laser,

i presume it is still there. your opinion is really shut down for our train better . so now the good and, and, and the treatment reach why some countries are supplying equipment, the munitions. i'm not, i'm not, i'm not the math for, for a saw something decisive on the part of the west and european populations seem to have both the government and their policy to fight to fight on. do you think this is because russia is losing the propaganda? what was the perception war? obviously, in nature was before they have journalists, who would um, i'll give a lie for them of whether it be iraq, syria, or afghanistan. olivia, it doesn't look good. does it to see drones attacking the kremlin, the coach bridge being destroyed? the north stream to be destroyed, assassinations of john list and moscow and saint petersburg. how,

how is russia gonna convince western europe that they're being lied to? well, you see, of course, say your, you know, it better than me as a journalist, as a media man. that all the west, the media, all the major use papers to the stations at the programs, the radio programs being put in there. but they are all, is the russian they are uh, every been it every hour they are broadcasting. oh, well i will say dog so big chairs i was going on in your train pulling fantasy in fantasy. it's illegal not to be up against rusher, arguably, and say, britain. i mean, i, i've got to ask you, i mean, we now know that there 50 british troops soldiers in ukraine from jack tex areas,

pentagon bates, ken russia, responds to what the british was deployment of british soldiers. presumably they had to train people to see uh, what do you see uh, the previous soldiers officially, the adjust medicine there was and then of course, you know, there by the british and so yeah, so special forces, according to the league through the pentagon, the jack tech sierra revealed in is going to jail for revealing. well, uh you see that's not very that bestbuy. that is my opinion. it's not a sufficient reasonable star war with you about the we, let's say we, yes, we don't, those people you your brain and it's not a, maybe maybe it's not a very a right not the, not the probably likely and be slow is the effects that the

problem many so many british uh, people who are already killed that they've been prison. i think it's uh, there are a lot of uh, police ago and the beginning the law use in all these actions. but though we know that there are casualties in mind that the biggest ship, the citizens in my us citizens, the europeans. but the, the, the figures are the figures and not made public by the national minister. that's well, there's been another tool of nuclear weapons. people can watch our camera, gun of interview on a rumble, but and of course made video of is talking about days being quite probable. they'll be nuclear will eat on musk, perhaps the richest man in the world. he's helped to john list because he freed up to it to, to be on sensitive. but if it will, the us and western european weaponry is organ and it just be destroyed in the next

few months. you said that you own must styling system has to be now given a useful for as a lensky is a, a new nazi link troops and you grant. yes, i understand that the star link is being used in uh, you know, for me on to purposes that it's an open secret. but the problem is studying that at the destroy every single uh, uh, transmitting station is quite the best. and uh you said the use uh maybe uh, drones, uh, maybe use but uh, it's not really the solution. the solution will be the boat would be destruction of the space component, the styrene. but that would entail the, the, the best wouldn't be the very highest space or it was the lation in the

bathroom patient. they do not have space. other than being guy. uh, seeing that uh, russian president is not ready for um their uh, confrontation with him about his space. it wants the potential general questions. okay, thank you. the time that's it for the show will be back on saturday with a brand new episode. but until then, you can keep a judge by the social media if it's not sensitive in your country and had to a channel going on the going to be on normal, they'll come to what's new and old episodes of going underground c, saturday the the russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community invest. ingles,

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