the hostage by the name analysis on my phone, i will try to do that actually that will resist any kind of no rush, any pressure, any any ins. dental, any last thoughts are lost and that reminds me to mix up. so you do have the course talk to the united states supplies, cluster munitions, to crane the russian on forces, who would be forced to use similar weapons against the putting you know, all the forces here i'll talk was showing you right there as a rush of defense minister ones at moscow will respond in kind if p f, employees, us supplied, plus the munitions. adding that over 26000 new pride in troops of died in the office to counter affect the nato summit in building with an old hammer and no

nails. its members are only able to construct a statement, suggesting no nato membership for ukraine until old couldn't distance saw satisfied also in the program, at least up to 70 people that plus deadlines, bridges, and infrastructure destroyed. and look at those pictures as northern india and some of the was flooding the most of the russian state doing the adults to law establishing the introduction of the digital ruble in russia policy contributor chris evans will join us for a live discussion. during this i was program the, i'm sorry, so it just after 11 pm here at most go wow, what is a huge news today on the wells? geo, political chessboard. i mean, for one, for example, the nato summit and lithuania, reportedly leaving of the crating and the president. zalinski disappointed and frustrated. a story is coming up, however, for right now,

rushes defends the minister has now go on. but if indeed, key of deploy is us applied, cluster munitions, or construction forces. it will compelled moscow to use the same tactics a solution for start just another step. okay, so if the united states supplies cluster munitions to claim the russian on forces, who would be forced to use similar weapons against the ukrainian armed forces? i'm showing you reminded washington the pressure has fall more across the munitions the united states is applying to crying. therefore, they will be more efficient and more deadly with the potential to inflict even heavier losses on the crating and on forces. now of course, uh these positions have been used before by the united states in a rock. come up down this down to the service facing effect. what they do is these cluster munitions. a lot of the roommate unexploded and for years late to the sometimes picked up by children who mistake the full toys. so they're afraid so incredibly low thing, which is perhaps why it's called division even amongst us is

a, it's a so i'm $120.00 countries have find the use of costing me additions. i don't want to buy more. nato remembers though i showed this a so touched upon what's uh, the latest developments in the special ministry operation. and he said that to russian, a full set of rules, a counter offensive across the cross, no limit and square. they've made some significant gains along 2 kilometers along the front line one and a whole hit on which is deep. and he almost always spoke about the hughes real estate, the reading, a suffolk while you create new policies in the counter offensive. so some or more than 26000 ukranian forces, happy and killed. 3000 a weapons have been destroyed. among those is 1200 types, including a large number of those. uh, 17. i think german liquid types. of course, we're not allowed to call them goodman leopard tongue side of the ukrainian now

because they've supplied them to ukraine. 27 storm shadow missiles have been able to separate these. of course of the long range missiles supplied by britain and a $176.00 time. also one was maybe 5 hundreds drones. now, of course you've heard the news today also upfront is now sending a long range weapons to cry. nobody's comes on sugar, said the counselor, offensive your price counter offensive is failing, is not bones. dignity is not meeting any of these goals. well, it's, we have this done right now here at all to international, according to rational authorities. a reports in coming ukrainian armed forces have shell, the city of top mark in the separate orgy region. get this as we understand using cluster munitions, informing us president donald trump is reactive now to the white house. decisions saying that by the administration is driving the world into a global conflict with this escalation,

joe biden should not be dragging us further towards world war 3 by sending cluster munitions to ukraine. he should be trying to end the war and stop the horrific death and destruction being caused by an incompetent administration. that's a type of profession by the right now with a michael maloof joining us here from washington d. c. of course, for my senior security strategist from the pen to go into michael, it's, it's so good to have you with us here at all the internet. can you just hold this latest report make? we're hearing now from national authorities that the us cluster munitions have now been used in the south for the orgy region. of course, trump has now come out, trump has blocked it, the white house decisions that to send these cluster munitions to the conflict design. now, michael, we have a reaction from shore to do. it almost sounds like a case of tit for tat. it's not good either way. what are your thoughts now knowing what you know as well? i if it's what i expect it, uh that, uh, if, if uh, these advance weapons are going to be used. russia will, uh,

will reciprocate and kind. and they have a lot more than what ever the west can provide at this point. and we're seeing that on a daily basis. that's why this kind of offensive ukrainian counter offensive failed . it has failed and, and, and they're not. and they're never going to be able to re gain the, the law. they, the territory that's now occupied by russia, which is their major condition for stopping the war and, and, and negotiating. so it means that the russian counter offensive is going to have to be decisive and be, be convincing. and we'll have to, uh, uh, be uh, uh, to, to force the but the sides to one to come to a conclusion on this. michael, we, i've, you know, speaking to a number of people in vilnius today. those who are either attending the nato summit, they are in the, through a new or observe and yet, and that seems to be a transfer. should we say how we're supposed uncertain car doors where people are

admitting that basically ukraine's cut her offensive has failed. they don't have enough ammunition now to continue, and perhaps we need to get the right parties to the right table to discuss these piece negotiations. michael, what about this? uh, the uh, nato summit today. uh, the us national security advisor, jake solomon. he made some statements about flushed the munitions. michael bear with me here. have a listen to what do you have to say listen to this, the unitary rounds that we've been providing and that we've been getting other allies in partners to provide to ukraine. those stop pals are running low when it came down to the choice our choice was, despite the difficulty, despite the challenges, despite the risk disability and harm associated with cluster munitions, the risk disability and harm of leaving ukraine without gamma. what needed was an arp from our perspective greater. so yeah, so, so and as i'm reading that incorrectly, michael, it seems like collateral damage civilian deaths for how many years to come from. these are tough to munitions. apparently it's not really the main concern of

washington says just about anything can go provided. there's a ukrainian victory in this confident. what are your thoughts so? well, that's all the victory is off the table and it sounds to me like chick sullivan is increasingly frustrated to admit that our stocks are down and that we're having to resort to clusters. and, and knowing what the consequences are. you've got about a 3rd of the nato countries that have signed this convention against the use of cluster bombs. i'm surprised that that hasn't really come up as a major issue among the among the natal members and it, it may, there's one more day, but it's not gonna stop the united states. i'm sending them and they're going to be and, but as i said earlier, there's going to be risk a response from russia. they will just, uh, put reciprocate and, and they have of far greater stockpiles than the west coast even provide to ukraine

. michael, every few months, it seems weapons that were previously off the cause of suddenly being given the green light to be sent to ukraine. i mean, you're a member of the discussions about depleted uranium on those shelves. you remember the aprons times patriot missiles and now the f says x 16 fight a judge now plus the bottoms where michael does it and, or, well, it's going to end up with a counter offensive from russia to, to make of ukraine. finally realize that it's and the pressures from even the west, i think from other countries that even though they might pledge to ukraine additional supplies in years to come to make them made a like uh, ukraine will never become a member of nato. never one of a number 2, they, they just don't even europe doesn't have to have the capacity to to supply unless they switch over to a total for economy. and that's it. and that's something that the europeans are not

in favor of and, and they're not used to either. their standard of living is gone down. the quality of living in the west has gone down and they realize that, so i think there's going to be mounting pressure that has to come from the people themselves to say, you know enough to enough and, and you gotta, you gotta super peace basically. and, and, and even, and, and ukraine will never, could affect the territories. i said that they, that they, that they lost and for them to hold on like that. thank you. that is the best supply chain. is, is, is an indefinite is, is ludicrous. and we should begin from the us standpoint, the top, look, you better start thinking about alternatives because our supplies are limited, but they're not there yet. why the meantime in vilnius, the nato summit, ongoing and michael, some of the guests are spoken today. actually very, she was a western guests have actually said that so then ski is, is acting like a spoiled child is always awesome to mold that he's never getting enough. and now

guess today was saying there was a sense of fatigue and disappointment among european leaders when they see the behavior of the landscape, michael, listen, we're gonna have to talk about that and go on. busy now the time michael milofa, former senior security policy analyst in the office of the secretary of defense, great to have you on the program. see you soon. a thank you roy. so what have nathan? that was actually a chief for ukraine at today's summit. but i'll tell you, they adopted a communique saying the ukrainian fall into the alliance can only be considered when conditions are met. an o parties agree, so it has to be, looks like one step backwards. instead of one step forwards, something they said, members have even said they can't even see ukraine joining the block while is engaged in a military conflict. the invitation will be issued when conditions are met. a and then we looked on that on top of that. so of course,

ours are also providing substantial military support because the most books in pulse now is to ensure that ukraine provisions because i'm, the supreme prevails. there's no membership you should to be discuss. that's all and if you look at all the membership processes, there are no been the time lines for those processes. they are conditions based. has always been great here. but you must be aware of this if you greenwood meter tonight to today during the conflict, it shows them on the article 5 be proclaimed. then other allied states would have to help defend ukraine. that would mean more ukraine was admitted into data right now, and then not only would it risk of world war, but nato also wouldn't be able to pretend that it was just a helpful bystander. ating on an army, ukraine against russia. so much for their david and goliath narrative, which would automatically become goliath against goliath narrative, which really wouldn't serve their narrative purposes too well. and the secretary

general stilton bird said to most even at task is to keep the weapons rolling in for ukraine. why? well, it just happens to divert billions upon billions of western tax, their passion to the pockets of weapons manufacturers in the west make sense when you can so that nato is really just a massive lobby for the western military industrial complex. and ukraine is really just a pretext against the green light to stuff their pockets through emotional blackmail of western citizens who are constantly being made to believe that it's really the only way to peace. so no nato wedding on the horizon for ukraine or even an engagement capital case. if anyone ordered one the list when the president stepped in was a bit of a romantic poem, i guess you could say maybe a high to about this toxic relationship between care of and the west. that's not the most amount you wants to put a seat ration where you cranes nature membership becomes a horizon. the more you get closer,

the more it moves forward from you. it sounds like the last line of a really frustrating french romance movie to kind of ends without anyone in the audience, really knowing what the couples fate ended up being well ukraine, president liners lewinski, a former actor himself says that he wants nothing to do with this script, it's unprecedented and absurd when there was no timeframe for either an invitation or ukraine's membership and went instead, some strange words in his added to both conditions, even for in the voice of ukraine. it looks like there was no readiness either to invite to queen to nato or to make it a member of the alliance because the landscape showed up fully expecting some kind of a ring engagement wedding. whatever i need to didn't even give them one of those little plastic ones with the hard candy soccer on top. well, speaking of being suckered, it seems that the state department spokesman also had a bit of a freudian slip that suggested real disconnect with washington's public

proclamations of love for ukraine. we believe the war has been a strategic failure for ukraine. the secretary spoke to this in his speech he gave in helsinki last month. i believe it was what that is. i'm sorry sir. excuse me. a strategic failure for, for ukraine. thank you for the direction of which he obviously meant to say russia, but just to manage to get it out despite having a couple of shots out it only the best and brightest in washington. so the whiskey has to settle for some houses in some packs on the back. the usual, he really has become for nato. what that clown ronald mcdonald is for mcdonald's restaurants, a mascot meant to draw my business and keep the cash rolling into the right pockets . but none of it is really good for the well being of the average person, particularly ukrainians as well. yeah, we did speak with a serious former bosses'. that's a turkey. yeah. and the dog cumberland,

who suggested that some parties involved in the ukraine complete actually want a pro long day sion of to some it's beneficial right. of countries within nato. and that's on hesitant some odd even though pausing to actually you in joining nato. so i don't think this is going to happen by you expect that's we are going to come with the same uh all the propaganda and support the statements of the basically express. and i didn't this to supply you could and was more of what tens of various sorts which could only for a longer well the lord in ukraine. and so the complicates conditions and then the child says for a peaceful dialogue, a solution to the crisis. so what plato is doing, what to buy than is doing a lot to other members of near to doing is actually putting the zalinski on dual

credit in the corner. so for send to the wrong conditions on this for as easy. who has no say indian, what is going in the game is no more than a phone on a chessboard being moved by the americans, that birds and others are to the united nations in new york. now as a un security council meeting, focusing on the node stream pipeline, sabotage is on the way by russian request. that's cost 5. now to walk, you corresponding caleb open for the latest details on this. i kind of good to see you. i could. yeah, a lot of noise, right, they're going to talk to you at the meeting at the un details. what do you know? well the meeting began.