the days will continue things and then we may expect the escalation from gape, buildings for peace in your vision. there's no peace settlement. so obviously, that would be most functions introduced, aggravates the situation and the child i already see you decide to keep up. this was in the interest of the we usually think that our tax money is going towards what we want to see. things like new roads update and metro systems, perhaps even better public services. we, we're leasing help. what we don't want to see things like prisoners in jail. but the unfortunate reality is that a big portion of tax money goes towards a system of incarceration and supporting and maintain the lives of prisoners. there are 1000000 in the world and while living conditions very at the end of the day, there's still

a major grain upon the assumption to this problem. the cost of everything where today or it goes into the costs of incarcerating and maintaining criminals behind bars. in the u. s. state governments has spent a combined $55000000000.00 on state prison in 2020 for over $1200000.00 people were locked behind. bars while spending per prisoner varies drastically. between state state, from $18000.00 per prisoner in mississippi, a year, all the way to a $135000.00 per prisoner in wyoming. the average the state spends is 45000 her prisoner to now what are the major costs of a presence budget goes to the salaries and benefits for correctional officers. the average annual salary for an officer was 534202021. but in high wage states like california new york and massachusetts officers make

a double the salary of those in low ways in on georgia. another factor that determines prison spending is the operational cost of the present facilities. these are higher in states with older prisons that require more upkeep. and in states where there is a relatively large prisoner population. now, alaska tops all of the stays with the highest incarceration rate of $625.00 prisoners per 800000 residents. geographically, the south has a higher prisoner incarceration rates because of america at 424 prisoners 480-0000 residents. and in total, the bureau of justice estimates that the us spends more than 80000000000 dollars each year to keep roughly $2300000.00 people behind bars. and this includes all the prisoners locked up between thousands of federal, state, local, juvenile correctional facilities, and tried, you know, systems i even was such

a high budget public presence had become overcrowded as a number of prisoners continue to rise. so like in most industries, the public sector turn to the private sector for health. the private detention centers are seen as a quick fix to the problem of overcrowded understaffed k. privatized sick prisons make up over 10 percent of the corrections market. turn it over $7400000000.00 per year. now there is a range of private industries and public agencies who continue to profit from mass incarceration. private companies are frequently granted contracts to operate prison, food, and health services, and even prison, telecom, and commissioner functions. this has spawns a multi buildings like phone calls, medical care, and commissioner, it costs offloaded to the families of present companies offer a correctional solution that prevents the government from having to thinking more capital into brick and mortar of new prisons and other long term costs such as

pensions and salaries and health care, private prisons not only provide state and federal government with a lower per diem cost, but they also provide a means for them to balance their budgets by, by off and refurbishing state own presence. c. c. a now operates the 5th largest present system in the us with 51 owned and operated facilities. this allows c c a to maintain a 44 percent stake in the $7400000000.00 private corrections market, who recorded billions of dollars in revenue. the studies agree that privatized prisons save money on the balance sheet between 19 to 28 percent. so why are presence such a good business? even though you're dealing with conflicts and pun, explain more well bringing the best in this topic. we got anthony gandy present manager, an author of inmate manipulation, decoded, and connie alley in prison,

educational consultants. so let's start with you, anthony. first of all, in what country are prisons? the most expensive? i would have to say probably, uh, the united states, due to the fact that we may have a good amount of uh, individuals incarcerated. and then the level of care that we provide to meet their needs. and connie and what country are present, the least, and the most humane the least. and the most, um say, most humane, i think i may have seen a new zealand or like, uh, uh, the netherland mean, at least, i might have to say like, uh, as maybe india. what did they do differently in new zealand? so what i've seen in those institutions is more of

a creation of a community of correctly is look like little apartments. there's just a different weight or i think they engage and i believe the population is able to kind of go out and work. so there's a level of preparedness for returning to society. i think in america we do some of that, but there is a level of step down and more of a controlled environment for that to happen here. and i feel like in some of the 3rd world countries, there is more of a responsibility for the families to take care of the offenders. so there are times where, like a family member has to go and make sure they have food. and they have sort of their basic needs met. whereas in america, like that's part of our care process. and anthony, you wanted to add a comment just kind of in partnership. so obviously countries like new new zealand will be doing like a integration model. so basically looking to rehabilitate the offender for re entry,

which is basically what we obviously do here in the states. but i think that for me the models that are probably the least 2 main or the ones that have least amount of supervision. like i've seen some in central america or south america that don't have our direct supervision. they don't have any staff oversight. they basically do things from a distance and they base cells which to me are you wind up having facilities that are ran by the offender? population as opposed to some level staff oversight. and now this question goes for both of you. ideally, prisons are so potent and reform and not necessarily how it works in reality for 20 years. so of too much experience there is a level of accountability even in regards to reintegration. so technically, what we have to do is we have to take our we have to look at the system up based on

the extremes of what's shown to us on tv, to pull some political perspective. we're supposed to look at actually, how jails and prisons operate. because what you see on the tv could be an extreme that's based on human failure and not what the design of the system is. so sadly, what was that path coming? the standard, the standard definition, and then they start making changes that are already being done. that's already been included, but somebody wants to be the hero and then based that extreme on this is how the system works. we, we do have, especially in the states. we do have a education. so we have things that help all the offender. why they're in their stay and then we also have things that prepared them for re entry. so we have models on education, social services, a mental health, religion, you know, we chaplin c programs. i mean, i drug treatment programs on the other thing is also is that we could provide it, but you have to, you know, get them to one level of accountability 1st,

in order for them to admit that there is a concern. so if we do make a change of changes, natural, i'll give you an example we, there's places where they have sex, offender treatment, you know, and before we're able to address their treatment, they must admit that what they have done was wrong. so we know that the change is sincere and not just something that you're selling us. so once you get released you, you would still can continue to be a threat. so a lot of people may not be willing, some progress because they feel if they take the program, it couldn't make that they're wrong. and right now they could be going through an appeal. so they don't want to say, well, i'm going to go ahead and take this program, but then if i take this program, i'm fucking saying i'm not guilty. so now if i do this program, people are going to think i'm guilty. why some people say, well, you know, if i do take this program it's, it's going to get me out sooner. well, the problem is that not taking it for the right reasons. so it's a filtering process. it's making sure that not only do you have the programs to provide, but people are taking it for the right reasons and not for anything external more

from helping someone from the inside out. but in my experience, in my 20 years, i've seen that work up from the civilian staff and those that look to help to rehabilitate and re entry back into society. and i know the effort behind it. but sometimes i have all the time cuz he effort do the right thing and leave and never come back. but there are some where it's like just talking to a brick wall and we could only do so much before we have to start saying, you know what? we're spending too much energy on this one. when i got 20 others ready to turn over . so we have to start get into the 20 and the end, but connie's from the civilian side. i'm sure she'll have a lot of insight on that as well to. yeah, so i mean, i think that, you know, when we think about incarceration in america, we know that there is definitely a very high rate of incarceration. and i think that sometimes people assume the worst, right. you know, it's the assumption and everyone's being mistreated or mishandled. and the system

is based on the inmates getting services and the right 8th amendment. right. always respected, right. so they, they are entitled to be if they are in crusty, not at, in any way, shape or form of receiving any crew or unusual punishment perspective. that means if an inmate has a toothache, right, we don't let the individual sit with the toothache all day or all week. right? like are the services that we're always trying to provide? of course, medical, mental health dental. we provide them with meals, we provide them with programming. there are many instances where you have staff who are going above and beyond to ensure that the population has access to things that they transition back into the community. i think that the good news stories are usually not the ones that make the front page. and so we end up basing our,

our opinions on what we do see, right. and what we usually see are the negative things that are happening. and you know, it's kind of like, how do we say, oh, you know, that was just, you know, a bad one, right? but a lot of instances that is it, right this, this is something that happens in this situation under these circumstances. and we can't use that broad stroke brush to say all offenders in these facilities, when we in fact have people who are really passionate about the work they do. yeah, like i want, if i can, so if you look at what's in the policy for the systems, you'll see that the system has a high level of expectation in regards to what must be met, especially related to the offenders care and wellbeing. now having said that, we have people that fail to meet those expectations. yes, but that is that what, how the system should be defined? know those people should be held accountable because you are going to find what's expected of them. and people are quick to say, well, you know what? because again, he didn't do it that way. the whole criminal justice system is broke. there's no

guarantee messed up guarantee was not doing what's expected. so therefore the system is still working. just can't, you've got to be held accountable to what we've done weekly is how these extremes are used them to generally define the system, but then remove accountability from it. so again, g a is, is not accountable because ganges just representing the system that expect so candy is accountable because there's nothing in the system that told them to deny the inmate of these services. i, i level connie said i've, i've ever seen an inmate sitting in pain when you have the facility that's operate in the way it should be operating on those expectations. no, because i have seen a scrambling on the other side of that liability making sure that we don't um, towards united way we do, i get that in a proper care. and i haven't said that that still requires or oversight because of work came out that we had an image sitting in pain and he did everything to get cooled down to medical. and we just decided not to do it. people are going to lose

jobs, at least by the standards that i've offices to. why that they make was not brought to medical and why he was not treat anthony and connie, but please stick around. our experts will be joining us here after the break. and when we come back, we will analyze the cost of us and european craft that correctional practices. the

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to me. you can the sleep, mom or you become my new friend. the one has loved going to die or or cause he is stay alive. those day next to me the if i'm not crazy enough, i'm not going to make it all philosophies differ drastically. the prime justification for incarceration over probation or community service for europeans, is to enabled prisoners to lead a productive crime free life upon release. them is to maintain the community safety by rehabilitating and effectively re integrating and re educating the inmates before releasing them. a report found that european countries direct more effort

into social reintegration and punishment and practices in germany and another lens allowed for inmates to prepare for release, ready to face the world as a productive citizen. during the time they're serving their sentences, they are granted privacy and are educated to use conflict resolution skills. this is very different from american ex prisoners that continue to be punished after re entry. european inmates are able to reclaim their societal freedom and rights. but in contrast, american ex cause are come and difficulties a penny, employment, housing, and public assistance, all of which increase the likelihood of returning back to a life of crime. china also has a unique feature with the re education through labor or a system of special administrative detentions sentences under re education through labor were issued as a form of administrative punishment rather than according to criminal law.

meanwhile, spending on prisons in england and wales is higher than in any other european country except for russia. in 2019, the total budget was $3400000000.00 pounds, which is considerably higher than neighboring countries like germany, a $3000000000.00 pounds and france at $2500000000.00 pounds. now the u. k, as a whole has a 3rd largest prison population in europe. at 91870, after only russia at 519000 turkey at 297000. the u. k also is pushing to introduce longer provisions to keep some inmates in prison for longer statistics show that the average prison sentence in england is currently the longest. it has been for a decade standing at 19 months with every country lost a fee. would it be challenging to come up with a global we have the trading criminal program other than

a present for the answer on this and more we welcome once again, anthony gang, a prison manager, an author of inmate manipulation, decoded, and connie alley in prison, educational consultant, so now what is the most common present? usually most crimes underneath there's gonna be some level of drug use and not all of them. but there's a good course and wherever you really get to this, uh, you know, the deep uh, kind of the bottom of the iceberg. you're gonna find that there could have been some influence with some drugs or alcohol. maybe so obviously a lot of our facilities are definitely going to have some type of an, a, a, a, i wouldn't go as far as having gambling on this or, or such, such anonymous. so you're looking at behaviors that are compulsive by nature, where they're motivated, more by that impulse than reasoning. but i would say for me, drugs use is not always a victimless crime because it can escalate, depend on their want for that drug. so i know some people think, well, the only hurting themselves,

and that's not always the case because once that drug addiction becomes so overwhelming that that drug becomes a priority. they will sell their children to get that drum, i'm just, it is what it is. so i would say that underneath tone would always be some level of drug use in which it could have led to, um, you know, whatever crime it could be. yeah. part of spins out, right. so it's, it's the drug use or a drug related crime. and then there's robbery, there's weapons charges that usually come along with that. there's often times, coupled with, like in a salt charge. and then you know, as those things start to spiral, then you end up with homicides and such. so if i had to sort of just take an educated guess on that one of them, some sort of drug possession drug a use is usually involved and then it just begins to spiral from there.

and do you think prisoners are exploited for labor, which makes it an equitable trade? all right, so so yeah, so let's, let's so, so present, jeffrey, we all know that, right? so some states do pay the inmate population a certain amount. it's not what you're going to find on the streets. it's gonna probably be very cheap labor, all but then again, there's also cost that they're also paying for these they make to reside there. don't forget, you know, i mean, they may only get paid certain amount, but they're also getting medical for free program. it's a free food for free. uh, you know, whatever living arrangements are, by the way, and another side know, nice people that go to the jail system, have never even had care for medical or never even seen by mental health. a lot of the times when we're discovering concerns when they're going through the jail and it's been discovered by the bible workers who work behind the wall, like the mental health professionals or the medical but of labor. because there's another thing that's being done here that some people overlook their learning trades in the process. i got food service workers who are coming out with serv.

save and uh, you know, certificates. so when they get off, they can go right into the, you know, helping out in the food industry. i've got maintenance workers that it may to work in maintenance, but then the process, they're learning how to be amazing and learning how to wells. and then when they get out, they have opportunities, they know how to drive a forklift. so i do think there's a balance within the for being educated by a supervisor who's like a trade instructor who's gonna wind up helping, getting them certified. so when they get released, they could wind up getting some bookcase, self sustaining, and in order to say some level of money from a taxpayer, there is some labor that we do rely on the inmate population for. but having said that in return, they do take wherever they're being taught and they could apply that gift out into the real world. i, i know a lot of it make maintenance workers ask them to do. let's not forget that they want to get out of their cell, but then when they, they get out of do them. i'm the, i'm the best plumber and they get out and they get a job. $4050.00 an hour,

right from the get go because of their experience working in the prisons and jails . so i mean, you know, i, i want to see it both ways, but in my experience, i just find that it does become beneficial if they take advantage of the learning opportunity. but besides behind what is being a task towards them, as opposed to just saying, well, my doing, i'm not a slave. what? well, it's not that it's your part of the program. at the end of the day, you do this, you can become a mason or whatever it is made a real world. i think one of the things that, you know, people talk about in this context also is that, you know, the population has no control over what kind of job they do, right? and so there are limited assignments available. and there's some, some positions where you have to be qualified to do the work, right? and so we may have to pick certain people to do certain things because this is what is required. and you have some individuals who don't want to do what's required in

order to hold that position or do that job. so it's, there's more, i think detail in the employment process as it pertains to i think it's easier to say, oh, it's cheap labor and, and everyone's on that you know, the present systems benefiting but know here all the options and which they are limited. these are the options available to the population. we have to be able to pick and choose and give people opportunities to grow and to learn. especially those who will be transitioning back into the community soon. because those are the ones who need to be employable, right? they need to have some sort of skill that they've cultivated over that time and that they're going to give into while they're going to learn from and be able to take it with them when they go. so as much as you know, there's a start that they should be paid more money and all of that. there's also this that is being paid back for the crimes they committed and to the people they've offended

. thank you so much, anthony yankee, and connie allen for your time today. while it's hard to think of prisoners like those incarcerated in europe, went out over those behind bars in america, as they're given a better chance that we are integrating into society after this sentence. currently there are various movements we're trying to follow. norway is example of prison reform. no. our way has one of the lowest rates, a formerly incarcerated population, committing another crime within 2 years of release. even after 5 years, it was still extremely low at only 25 percent of the population. meanwhile, this rate is one of the highest in the world in the us with almost 44 percent of criminals released returning to prison within their 1st year out. the researchers have attributed this high rate to a plus real factors ranging from social stigma, taishan and inadequate skills necessary for employment. i'm christy. i thanks for

watching and we'll see you right back here next time on the cost of everything. the scenes, the beginning of america has officially declared this driving for freedom and people's rights to happiness. however, in reality, having one independent american calling is tested for the total extermination of the indigenous population of the continent. american indians were deprived of their land. local residents were driven into reservations, given the worst agricultural direct, the appropriated by white colonizers, the strongest blow to american indian tribes was the extermination of by some native americans lived by hunting these wild animals. colonists slaughtered the

bison, and in fact, made them nearly extinct. every buffalo did is in india and gone, said colonel richard dogs, a veteran of the bloody and vicious indian wars cynically. the indigenous population was simply exterminated us army general phillips sheridan expressed the evidence of this policy and the income is worth the only good india is that dead indians, the genocide of native americans of north america led the exact number of debts is still a note. but the number of victims is in millions having been a majority on the continent before the indigenous people make up less than 3 percent. the

the the phrase as to the last 2 days will continue dates and then we may expect to the escalation. because i don't see any associated demand for peace in your vision. there's no peace settlement. so let's choose to aggravate situation. ok, so you decided to keep up. this was in the interest of us on the the .