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are millions of people locked behind bars around the world and while living conditions very at the end of the day, there's still a major grain upon society. so is there a solution to this problem? and i'm christy i and you're watching the cost of everything. where today we're going to be examining how much goes into the costs of incarcerating and maintaining criminals behind bars. in the us state governments has spent a combined $55000000000.00 on state prisons in 2020 for over $1200000.00 people were locked behind bars while spending per prisoner varies drastically. between state state from $18000.00 per prisoner in mississippi. a year, all the way to a $135000.00 per prisoner in wyoming. the average the state spend is $45771.00 per person are now one of the major costs of
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a presence budget goes to the salaries and benefits for correctional officers. the average annual salary for an officer was 534202021. but in high wage states like california in new york and massachusetts officers make a double the salary of those in low wage states like mississippi, louisiana, georgia. another factor that determines present spending is the operational cost of the present facilities. these are higher in states with older prisons that require more upkeep. and in states where there is a relatively large prisoner population. now alaska tops all of the stays with the highest incarceration rate of $625.00 prisoners per 100000 residents. geographically, the south has a higher prisoner incarceration rates compared to the west or the northeast of america at $424.00 prisoners per 800000 residents. and in total,
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the bureau of justice estimates that the us spends more than 80000000000 dollars each year to keep roughly $2300000.00 people behind bars. and this includes all of the prisoners locked up between thousands of federal, state, local, juvenile correctional facilities, and tried to, you know, systems and even was such a high budget. public presence had become overcrowded as a number of prisoners continued to rise. so like in most industries, the public sector turned to the private sector for health. private detention centers are seen as a quick fix to the problem of overcrowded understaffed public presence. and today, privatized citizens make up over 10 percent of the corrections market. turning over $7400000000.00 per year. now there's a range of private industries and public agencies who continue to profit from mass
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incarceration. private companies are frequently granted contracts to operate prison, food and health services, and even prison, telecom and commissioner functions. this has spawns a multi 1000000000 dollar private industry with things like phone calls, medical care, and commissioner. it costs offloaded to the families of prisoners. these private companies offer a correctional solution that prevents the government from having to sink and more capital into brick and mortar of new prisons and other long term costs, such as pensions and salaries and health care for new presents staff. a private presence not only provide state and federal government with a lower per diem cost, but they also provide a means for them to balance their budgets by, by off and refurbishing state own presence. c. c, a now operates the 5th largest present system in the us with 51 owned and operated facilities. this allows c c a to maintain
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a 44 percent stake in the $7400000000.00 private corrections market, who recorded billions of dollars in revenue. studies agree that privatized prisons save money on the balance sheet between 19 to 28 percent. so why are presence such a good business even though you're dealing with conflicts and punishment? well, to explain more well bringing the best in this topic. we got anthony gandy present manager, an author of inmate manipulation, decoded, and connie alley, in prison, educational consultant. so let's start with you, anthony. first of all, and what country are prisons? the most expensive? i would have to say probably, uh, the united states, due to the fact that we may have a good amount of uh, individuals incarcerated. and then the level of care that we provide to meet their needs. and connie and what country are present the least, and the most humane the least and the most. um that's
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a tough one. so i would say most humane. i think i may have seen a new zealand, or like, uh, uh, the netherlands. i wanna say i've seen is most humane. i least, i might have to say like, uh, maybe india, to what did they do differently in new zealand. so what i've seen in those institutions is more of a creation of a community of corrections. so many of the facilities look like little apartments. there's just a different weight, or i think they engage and i believe the population is able to kind of go out and work. so there's a level of preparedness for returning to society. i think in america
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we do some of that, but there is a level of step down and more of a controlled environment for that to happen here. and then i feel like in some of the 3rd world countries, there is more of a responsibility for the families to take care of the offenders. so there are times where, like a family member has to go and make sure they have food. and they have sort of their basic needs met. whereas in america, like that's part of our care process. and anthony, you wanted to add a comment just kind of in partnership. so obviously countries like new new zealand will be doing like a integration model. so basically looking to rehabilitate the offender for re entry, which is basically what we obviously do here in the states. but i think that for me the models that are probably the least 2 main or the ones that have least amount of supervision. like i've seen some in central america or south america that don't
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have our direct supervision. they don't have any staff oversight. they basically do things from a distance and they basically allow the inmates to fend for themselves. which to me, if you wind up having facilities that are ran by the offender population as opposed to some level of staff oversight. and now this question goes for both of you. ideally, prisons are supposed to be used for rehabilitation and reform, and not necessarily punish, but is that really how it works in reality? all right, so i've been involved this system for 20 years, so i'm through my experience. there is a level of accountability even in regards to reintegration. so technically what we have to do is we have to take our we have to look at the system up based on the extremes of what's shown to us on tv, to pull some political perspective. we're supposed to look at actually how jails and prisons operate because what you see on the tv could be an extreme that's based
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on human failure and not what the design of the system is. so sadly, what winds up happening is that model winds up becoming the standard, the standard definition, and then they start making changes that are already being done that's already been included, but somebody wants to be the hero. and then based that extreme on this is how the system works. we, we do have, especially in the states, we do have a education. so we have things that help all the offender, why they're in their stay. and then we also have things that prepared them for re entry. so we have models on education, social services, a mental health, religion. you know, we chaplaincy programs. i mean i drug treatment programs are the other thing is also is that we could provide it. but you have to, you know, get them to want to take it. so there has to be some level of accountability 1st, in order for them to admit that there is a concern. so if we do make a change of changes, natural, i'll give you an example we,
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there's places where they have sex, offender treatment, you know, and before we're able to address their treatment, they must admit that what they have done was wrong. so we know that the change is sincere and not just something that you're selling us. so once you get released you, you would still can continue to be a threat. so a lot of people may not be willing to take some programs because they feel if they take the program, it couldn't make that they're wrong. and right now they could be going through the appeal. so they don't want to say, well, i'm going to go ahead and take this program, but then if i take this program, i'm planning saying i'm not guilty. so now if i do this program, people are going to think i'm guilty, or some people say, well, you know, if i do take this program it's, it's going to get me out sooner. well, the problem is that the, that incentive also doesn't work because you're not taking it for the right reasons . so it's a filtering process. it's making sure that not only do you have the programs to provide, but people are taking it for the right reasons and not for anything external more
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from helping someone from the inside out. but in my experience in my 20 years, i've seen that work up from a civilian staff and those that look to help to rehabilitate and re entry back into society. and i know the effort behind it, but sometimes not all the time because a good percentage of inmates will put the effort, do the right thing and leave and never come back. but there somewhere, it's like just talking to a brick wall and we could only do so much before we have to start saying, you know what? we're spending too much energy on this one. when i got 20 others ready to turn over . so we have to start get into the 20 and um, and but connie's from the civilian side. i'm sure she'll have a lot of insight on that as well to. yeah, so i mean, i think that, you know, when we think about incarceration in america, we know that there is definitely a very high rate of incarceration. and i think that sometimes people assume the worst, right. you know, it's the assumption and everyone's being mistreated or mishandled. and the system
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is based on the inmates getting services and they do get their 8th amended right. 8th amendment, right, always respected, right? so they, they are entitled to be, if they are in custody, not at, in any way, shape or form of receiving any crew or unusual punishment. and so from a civilian perspective, that means if an inmate has a toothache, right, we don't let the, the individual sit with the toothache all day or all week, right? like, are the services that we're always trying to provide? of course, medical, mental health dental. we provide them with meals, we provide them with programming. there are many instances where you have staff who are going above and beyond to ensure that the population has access to things that they need in order to successfully transition back into the community. i think that or the good news stories are usually not the ones that make the front page. and so
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we end up basing our, our opinions on what we do see, right. and what we usually see are the negative things that are happening. and you know, it's kind of like, how do we say, oh, you know, that was just, you know, a bad one, right? but a lot of instances that is it, right this, this is something that happens in this situation under these circumstances. and we can't use that broad stroke brush to say this is how everyone treats all offenders in these facilities. what do we, in fact have people who are really passionate about the work they do? you have like a, i want, if i can. so if you look at what's in the policy for the systems, you'll see that the system has a high level of expectation in regards to what must be met, especially related to the offenders care and wellbeing. now having said that, we have people that fail to meet those expectations. yes, but that is that what, how the system should be defined? know those people should be held accountable because you are going to find people
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that don't do what's expected of them and people are quick to say, well, you know what? because gauge, you didn't do it that way. the whole criminal justice system is brokers no guarantee messed up guarantee was not doing what's expected. so therefore the system is still working. just can just gotta be held accountable that what we've done weekly is how these extremes are used them to generally defined the system. but then remove accountability from it. so again, g a is, is not accountable because ganges just represent in the system that expects that i will come around and say no guarantee is accountable. because there's nothing in the system that told them to deny the inmate of these services. i, i level connie said i ever seen an inmate sitting in pain when you have the facility that's operate in the way it should be operating on those expectations. no, because i have seen a scrambling on the other side of that liability, making sure that we don't on our torch, and i didn't we do i get back in
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a proper care. now having said that, it still requires strict oversight because of work came out that we had to do make sitting in pain and he did everything to get called down to medical and we just decided not to do it. people are going to lose jobs, at least by the standards that i've operated on. they're gonna have to have a major excuse as to why that teammate was not brought to medical and why he was not treated as such. thank you so much. anthony and connie, but please stick around. our experts will be joining us here after the break. and when we come back, we will analyze the cost of us and european craft that correctional practices. we'll have more after the break the lease return to the russian states. never as one of the most sense community best i'll send send up the send the system to
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progress be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the russia to day and split the ortiz phone that came in our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for the question, did you say a request, which is the, [000:00:00;00]
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the the us and european correctional philosophies differ drastically. the prime justification for incarceration over probation, or community service for europeans, is to enabled prisoners to lead a productive crime free life upon release. the main objective of removing the offender is to maintain the community safety by rehabilitating and effectively re integrating and re educating the inmates before releasing them. a report found that european countries direct more effort into social re integrate creation and
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punishment and practices in germany and another lens allowed for inmates to prepare for release, ready to face the world as a productive citizen. during the time they're serving their sentences, they are granted privacy and are educated to use conflict resolution skills. this is very different from american ex prisoners that continue to be punished after re entry. european inmates are able to reclaim their societal freedom and rights. but in contrast, american ex cause are confronted with losing the right to vote and difficulties a penny, employment, housing, and public assistance, all of which increase the likelihood of returning back to a life of crime. the china also has a unique feature with the re education through labor or a system of special administrative detentions sentences under re education through labor were issued as a form of administrative punishment rather than according to criminal law. meanwhile,
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spending on prisons in england and wales is higher than in any other european country except for russia. in 2019, the total budget was $3400000000.00 pounds, which is considerably higher than neighboring countries like germany, a $3000000000.00 pounds and france at $2500000000.00 pounds. now the u. k as a whole, has a 3rd largest prison population in europe at 91870. after only russia at 519000 turkey at 297000. the u. k also is pushing to introduce longer prison sentences and change release provisions to keep some inmates and present for longer statistics show that the average present sentence in england is currently the longest. it has been for a decade, standing at 19 months with every country having a specific correctional philosophy. would it be challenging to come up with a global rehabilitating criminal program other than
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a present for the answer on this and more we welcome once again, anthony gang gate prison manager, an author of inmate manipulation, decoded, and connie alley, in prison, educational consultant. so now what is the most common present in charge globally? so usually most crimes underneath is gonna be some level of drug use, not all of them. but there's a good portion where if you really get to this uh, you know, dig deep outside of the bottom of the iceberg, you're gonna find that there could have been some influence with some drugs or alcohol. maybe so obviously a lot of our facilities are definitely going to have some type of an, a, a, a, i wouldn't go as far as having gambling on this or, or such, such anonymous. so you're looking at behaviors that are compulsive by nature, where they're motivated, more by that impulse than reasoning. but i would say for me, drug use could be one, but mind you drug use is not always a victimless crime because it can escalate, depend on their what for that drug. so i know some people think, well,
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the only hurting themselves, and that's not always the case because once that drug addiction becomes so overwhelming that that drug becomes their priority. they will sell their children to get that drum, i'm just, it is what it is. so i would say that underneath tone would always be some level of drug use and which it could have led to um, you know, whatever crime it could be. yeah. yeah, cuz i think that's where it is sort of spins out, right. so it's, it's the drug use or a drug related crime. and then there's robbery, there's weapons charges that usually come along with that. there's often times coupled with, like in a salt charge and then you know, as those things start to spiral, then you end up with homicides and such. so, so i had to sort of just take a um, an educated guess on that one. i would say typically um, some sort of drug possession drug
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a use is usually involved and then it just begins to spiral from there. and do you think prisoners are exploited for labor or are they working for a reduced prison sentence or good behavior, which makes it an equitable trade? all right, so, so yeah, so let's, let's so, so prisons are very self sustaining. obviously we all know that, right? so some states do pay the inmate population a certain amount. it's not what you're gonna find on the streets. it's gonna probably be very cheap labor, all but then again, there's also cost that they're also paying for the inmate to reside there. don't forget, you know, i mean, they may only get paid certain amount, but they're also getting medical for free program. it's a free food for free, you know, whatever living arrangements are. and by the way, or another side know, nice people that go to the jail system, have never even had care for medical or never even seen by mental health. a lot of the times when we're discovering your son is when they're going through the jail.
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and it's been discovered by the bible workers who worked behind the wall, like the mental health professionals or the medical. but i, i'm not going to say it's wave labor because there's another thing that's being done here that some people overlook their learning trades in the process. i got food service workers who are coming out with serv. save and uh, you know, certificates. so when they get off, they can get right into the, you know, helping out in the food industry. i got maintenance workers that it made to work and maintenance, but then the process, the learning how to be amazing and learning how to wells. and then when they get out, they have opportunities, they know how to drive a forklift. so i do think there's a balance. but in the process, why they're working, they're being educated by a supervisor who's like a trade instructor who's gonna wind up helping, getting them certified. so when they get released, they could wind up getting some vocational tre, what again prisons are self sustaining. and in order to say some level of money from a taxpayer, there is some labor that we do rely on the inmate population for. but having said that, in return,
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they do take whatever they're being taught and they could apply that gift out into the real world. i, i know a lot of it make maintenance workers that 1st off want to be called out because it's something for them to do. let's not forget that they want to get out of their cell, but then when they, they get out and do them. i'm the, i'm the best plumber and they get out and they get a job $4050.00 an hour, right from the get go because of their experience working in the prisons and jails . so i mean, you know, i, i want to see it both ways, but in my experience i, i just find that it does become beneficial if they take advantage of the learning opportunity bit besought behind what is being a task towards them as opposed to just saying well, i'm not doing that, i'm not a slave. what? well, it's not that it's your part of a program. at the end of the day, you do this, you can become a mason or whatever it is. and you can go out and take that skill with you into the real world. i think one of the things that, you know, people talk about in this context also is that, you know,
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the population has no control over what kind of job they do, right? and so there are limited assignments available, and there's some, some positions where you have to be qualified to do the work, right? and so we may have to pick certain people to do certain things because this is what is required. and you have some individuals who don't want to do what's required in order to hold that position or do that job. so it's, there's more, i think detail in the employment process as it pertains to an inmate in prison. i think it's easier to say, oh, it's cheap labor and, and everyone's on that you know, the present systems are benefiting but know here all the options and which they are limited. these are the apps is available to the population. we have to be able to pick and choose and give people opportunities to grow and learn, especially those who will be transitioning back into the community soon. because
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those are the ones who need to be employable, right? they need to have some sort of skill that they've cultivated over that time and that they're going to give into while they're going to learn from and be able to take it with them when they go. so as much as you know, there's a start that they should be paid more money and all of that. there's also this restitution essentially that is being paid back for the crimes they committed and to the people they've offended. thank you so much, anthony yankee, and connie allen for your time today. while it's hard to think of prisoners as winners and losers, it seems like those incarcerated in europe went out over those behind bars in america, as they're given a better chance that we are integrating into society after this sentence. currently there are various movements who are trying to follow norway is example of prison reform. norway has one of the lowest rates, a formerly incarcerated population, committing another crime within 2 years of release. even after 5 years,
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it was still extremely low at only 25 percent of the population. meanwhile, this rate is one of the highest in the world in the us. with almost 44 percent of criminals released returning to prison within their 1st year out. the researchers have attributed this high rate to a plus real factors ranging from social stigma, taishan and inadequate skills necessary for employment. i'm christy. i thanks for watching and we'll see you right back here next time on the cost of everything. the by the middle of the 19th century, practically the whole of india had been under the rule of the british and by the
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colonial authorities that impose that heavy depth, bringing the people into poverty ex, 40 natural resources. and moreover, these authorities absolutely had no consideration for the physicians of the local population, treating them like 2nd class citizens. the british were showing signs of disrespect even to those who operated with them. the facts of ignoring the religious beliefs of the hindus let them use nails as the voice mercenaries, older surfing under the british ground. 3000000000 began on the 10th of may 1857 in the garrison town of may river north of india, a form of abuse. the rebels quickly took over daily that he rode. the resistance of the indian people lasted for one and a half years. however, the forces were not equal for the colonial authorities dealt with the rebels, cruel, late fee and slaves. the boys were tied to the mouth of the cannon and were shot right through their bodies for the amusement of the public. these type of execution
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was called the devils with the obliteration of them you may result in the death of 800000 inhabitants of indians. however, the british empire never broke the free spirit of the indians, and there will reset the other way. all right, so see what's printing was are open tomorrow, so let's this is just simply, slippers are going to see anything important to me. the last name we're seeing is read. those can, will be used to be imagine
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