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tv   Cross Talk  RT  July 14, 2023 2:30am-2:43am EDT

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peter scott. from the on the talk. we're all things are considered on peter own. still again, another promise not to native. this is always after thought inflicting eastern the nato summit. i'm joined by my guess. he is director of the swedish independent strategy. winston. she is a political. i miss the winston show on t and t rate. ernest. alright, prospect rolls and effect us. appreciate you on let me go to you 1st. illness it was built up covered last ok. but if i did, if you crane made it in or didn't make it in are conditions that is it this some, it did not discuss peace and it did, you know, it did, and that is not in the book because i, i wrote a book about it last year and why it shouldn't be abolished already on
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a piece as defense and the terms in security then it is control threat such as china as population reflection. so the web piece is not that and it's not a defensive, a lions nation of that word. yeah, well oh yeah, the, it's primary mission decision is missy. but essentially, you know, the, we've always heard been russia, it has no veto. has ukraine was not invited to be alliance. they are flowing that lives in the media, just like, yes, i think that is absolutely makes whatsoever of making it into nato at this point. or at any point. i think that this continue, i think that this is as joint as long as want, unless we're not as successful, we're at applied, they are just kind of waving in front of ukraine in order to justify the case saying that the political leadership in care of goes along with a suppose, the lensky and his crowd are paid very well. compensation is very good. uh, allies, uh well with all the allies agree and conditions 1000 age when they were invited, as a potential 1008. go ahead. absolutely right, um,
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i'm going to echoed the us thing. we have a conflict that would just do this was never considered before. how's the lensky always worked into it because of lensky? just standing on his own? what's going on when they've been able to agree in recent times, they've been divided over a success that this and yet the headlines will read that and they tell you only need to do a very quick google search for nato membership and no checklist for membership. but there are 5 following requirement leading, tolerating diversity listed in the crate and for yeah, we've not had any chance of being in the nato by even the point because they talk about democratic norms and rules based order that they say that ukraine has to win the war to become eligible yet to become a member. i mean, i don't understand why i think a lot. judy is only game in town, so to speak. here is not a word about peace negotiation. then of course, as they believe it works so that they are you find would be able to win over russia . eyes got nato as being in various ways in ukraine, free body in the west,
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who knew anything about secure to include including burns, who it was an investor. and this and europe have one bill you made to expansion of nature, which is acceptable by truck. but you cut that means war and now you had you had bite and the same thing such as a huge blunder. thanks to letting me put the munich since you are at a conference. so really interesting. when you think about the names everyone knows like for example, are to you with you on is absolutely right. so there's been a huge debate about expect, according to what one year ago and any more your apps, you're getting them on. a lovely band from twitter for on ukraine. i got was there's a whole literature of 16 months. oh, there's either a missy. this is the times when it will have been let me go to mr. here here, he's real complex that has been completely out of control. and i think that it is very touched and you should ask all of the questions to avoid in this country. the problem and very effective, i think a lot of host of issues this one i think is
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a little bit of i think a lot of people started to question it through other methods of, you know, kind of silence in that kind of a thing. but i do think a lot of people, a lot of people are more skeptical. i think that that's what we're seeing now, and i hope that that can to yeah, mike, you know, they, it's, it's highly likely ukraine, where does it need to join in the lot? i get off likely will lose this work. why? i mean, i don't, i don't understand, you know, none of it makes sense because those goal post keep changing the nights ukraine would have to restore the territorial integrity. and if you cry and doesn't succeed in it, doesn't maintain his integrity that for a cause, the conditions as i understood them are they never make sense. and let's just so with each in distress about this, expand jacks essential, security risk, and the short order. then we have these cold up to the north, and then we have this stated the open look how united we are. you've actually justify and you've been. and it to go, which is a margaret showed good, which of that? not one. sorry. yeah, i mean, what is your mike and i think we're all in agreement. you kind will never be
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a member of that alliance. russia will. i think what they are doing now is just very clear in the treaty that into what they called possible a box. you know, you know, they are thinking now planning trips and extremely important point. what need to dollars today that sense and then be called on that started with the bombing of you, but slightly. absolutely. well, what did it hang on? hang on, hang on. we got a guy on the nato summit, stay with our team, the expect to the escalation because i don't see any c, c, a dimensions introduced to aggravate situation. and it kinda erased the key at the washington state. the rules of guys as the phone of some of
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the welcome back to across stock were all things are considered non peter law beyond you know, on your, on our role. so no, i just said give us lobby a 99 deadline. some done saying news like letter of course, very free to which is a very defense trade to the only difference from the un drive it back. you know, mutual defense as, as a piece for the fact that tomorrow, 247, its own from an independent, international come of yours and others who would look into a founding treaty. and if you're asking me about the future, it wants to bottom is because it's running out are members and stop it. it's the same thing that has to be stopped. another country, is that, wow, well i, i don't, i think nato is day t, jake tropic. so i hope so miss the, i don't want, i don't want to get to legalistic or anything like, so i called the washington treaty. but you know, the cold,
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one of the treaty organization under its own, of the military complex using force. it's mostly ations. nobody relation of their own. um, uh indeed, yes, and i think that it and that out loud because it's, it's true that it, i hope it's long overdue for it to have been abolished. and we're, as we're see, i think that you, they are going to suffer a very strategic defeat here. and it is going to, and i think that that is something that they are trying to contend with. now i think that there's probably a wiggle around in this situation and make it, uh, you know, that and, and kind of see if they are involved. there's no way for them to back that, that's something that they're continuing. continuing to trying to figure out how they can make that play itself with the box that play out wiggle room for the med shouldn't even say in ways poor didn't made okay. that's what they get into football. that's exactly what they're going to do. we're talking about with when the allies of g 7. yes, they're still around but security guarantees as well with terry with security. i thought they were and you can, i mean again, this is another more money on a on
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a loss. yeah, yeah, absolutely right. the g 7 is either in discuss such things, so it baffled me will said, or i if we don't get the 7. but we know that, that really in regards to that all these countries committing to y'all refer back to ben wallace saying that we don't engage in this proxy. will they just to that happy to attack russian facilities and people? there's g 7 where they're just going to line up, take photographed it in the right toms, manufacturers make side as far as i can tell that the issue of cluster bombs, i mean, are in all of this nonsense. they like and russian, russian bladder and usually follows that it's gonna fall part of modern militancy problems. and that means whatever you're dram riding on, and then finally the warm it should be solved by weapons. i think actress as dalton, back in the direction that people cease fire and negotiation to mediation, etc. outdated. maybe we don't need maintenance because they have 12 times more military expenses, not to waste money. but so, and do we, you know, our own with different cultures, different political, human rights,
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etc. i need for the use of them to come up carefully. that would become by looking countries in the future world, or we see his desperation. and when you need to interviews possible, i'm losing it. yeah. well, missy with an act of desperation and ask them to do other things as well. many is what we have in washington and brussels. give a hoot a bit, all they want to give them as much weapon read will be the same mission. yeah. that the word desperation was use because that is example backed into a corner and you're absolutely right will of this country. and i'm supposed to believe it takes them as cannon fodder many people. and i've said that we will fight till the last 2 created to say, from back home. but i think to start to find that quite despicable i thought weapon against russia is really just again. i think that they're starting to lose the narrative you ration well, mr. you couldn't say you're about their own people, the other guy. so agreeing with the you as well propaganda. war there is being full price with those mean tweet ok. everything you told me to do wherever in sitting a type of girl for us. okay, go ahead. i think you said i have given everything out to monitoring. well, ukraine should say fine cute is comments. i believe the lens in, in a video,
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it's really funny if it wasn't so tragic us ukrainian is, is across is 97 percent of those people are not effective on the battlefield that, that being supplied to going because remember we have the twins of jake sullivan, victoria and keep this going to 2024 and train and ukrainian people are being sacrificed for what is the national interest for europe and what is the national interest of that statistic? because given the nature of the reach and i really worry that the groups around the world's, okay, they're knowledgeable to the various force can hold the time with the bumping in width of corruption, i think. and what will be the future of the last thing has been a split and their opinion about that like a lot of and i think what, what, what we've made me we shouldn't be so surprised me as um they won't be lost or left to withdrawal. so why can something else you need it?
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the problem here is that is and confrontation and sanctioning behavior. and where it is totally outdated, as i said, time, 30 years like a pay. and that was advice on bad club that time, all the items and one word expansion. nothing to bring to the world anymore. literally, i don't know. but it's not all the time we have. i want to thing my guess in columbus land and here and mosque or process the at the store web shows or some of the most and at least the media. would you be to see that that was the most of the
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details about his meeting with wagner. says both the track record on the phone so also this richard will extend if the country's interest on mats and the.
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