tell agent's operations, are we ever that want to get to intelligence after the break? because it's a whole nother based on that side of it. but do you think jp morgan, in this, if they would have gone to a full trial, would have had to disclose even more than they were going to be willing to. so any amount of money was going to be worth it to them to shut this down. exactly. it could never go to a full truck, but discovery would be amazing. exactly. so they could, they could, they couldn't possibly do it. it didn't matter what the number was, they couldn't go to a few to a full trial because the names that would have been involved would just be too high ranking to powerpoint. and of course, jp morgan is not just a bank, it's also an, a geo political power broker. and that would have eventually come into the come into account the as part of the discussion. well, there's been a lot of focus on the lawyers of these victims. they're going to get a large chunk of this, but the same time, it's not only about the money, it's also about the information that we actually probably had a chance of probably getting the most information yet. should these lawyers,

if they were about more than just the money to that's hard to think wires, not just about the money. are you kidding me? or what should they have held out? they just said they did. you know, i know i went full discovery. i want those little black books, i want to know your quiet ross is who put money and who put money out. well, you know, from the perspective of the lawyers, they are sworn to represent that to their clients and get them the best possible deal. they are and if i'm representing the client and there's 200 many, 290000000 dollars sitting around who's going to say no, just past that 290? well, you know, we want information. no, i mean, i think the responsibility of the lawyers of their job would be have to be to take that money before it goes. so yeah, just the money's worth it and you find doesn't have that from the perspective of the attorneys and their duty to act on behalf of their clients. they have you got to sign that check when somebody said how we're going to get this information. yeah, so because what we're talking about something different again, right, well, and i think it's the next thing that what we're talking about is how important it is for if, if this is an intelligence operation,

the people of the punch read or being represented by this intelligence operation have a right to know and the government has a do a duty to let them know 2 things that the lawyers deserve. kind of the push back that they're getting the blow back, they're getting because they are getting such a large chunk of what they've invested in it. do you think that may be that they should be deserving because they're getting demonized and saying, why are you taking 30 percent of this? this wasn't your issue. why are you not doing this more for the common good of finding out about what happened at s t i us no, i don't think so. they deserve the money from a, you know, if you're a car mechanic and somebody's gonna pay you a 100 bucks to change the transmission once the transmission has changed. if you're a $100.00, they are doing a job as long as they acted on behalf of their clients. i will defend the lawyers because that's what their job that 30 percent was agreed on. if it was a $100.00, they got 30, if it's a big enough colors, they get $300000000.00. i i, i don't think it is the job of the attorneys, particularly in this case, to clear things up for the citizens. something that our now congress has

a duty here for oversight that they are clearly not. um, not, you know, not standing up for, well, that's an interesting and then once again, that's gonna go security as well. i also have to order how did this change, how, how do you think we would have it different if jeffrey epstein was still alive today for whatever reason that you know that he went on with jp morgan still be fighting this f. c was still there, is this because this actually because that's the past. and so we're looking for someone to give us answers. well, you know, it's kind of hard to answer that question because the reality is, the 2 things, the, the problems that we have now and the death of jeffrey epstein or industry probably linked the reason jeffrey epstein can't possibly be alive right now is because of the contradictions that you and i are talking about. so then where does design maxwell play into all of this? i mean, she's the other person knows the information besides the bank accounts that people of that were involved with it. where do you think she rolls out in, in all of this?

and why is it jp, are we not talking more about her in this settlement? again because of the connections that she, i mean if you, that she has to intelligence. if you look at just lane maxwell, if you look at her father who had a book called, robert maxwell is really super spy. if you look at just laying maxwell, if she wasn't an intelligence operations operative, she'd be the black sheep and the family jimmy. the only person who isn't because those because her siblings are her father. we're. so again, we get into an unfortunate circumstance where we're talking about the citizens of the united states and possibly other countries that will go a name that have a right to know what their, that their government is up to. no good, particularly when it involves the sexual trafficking of, of, of what i see young women could be young men also, but we don't know. so we have seen the 2 banks. i wanna focus still on this settlement. we see 2 big settle. are you thinking there's going to be other other businesses, other corporations that are going to be held liable for their dealings with jeffrey? i've seen, do you think they're seeing this already on the wall and going oh my gosh, are we next? uh well,

i put it like this. i think you've got other institutions that are looking at their options for a way out that are planning with their attorney saying if it comes to us, how much do we have to pay? how do we get out of this? because i think we're looking in the same way that you look at a web of shell companies that people use to hide their funds and for ill gotten gains. i think there's going to be a web of banks that are used to re route accounts and re route money through to justify the, the amount of money that epstein had when he really didn't work a day in his life. well, but that's the thing we're talking about banks. yeah. there's other things there's, there's electric providers, there's the water people, there's the water utilities. there's all sorts of folks who service that island that and had to know something. busy is going on as a lawyer, is it hard to prove that they continue to offer services knowing that something wasn't right about that either or they can do to offer any services, even grocery delivery to jeffrey, i've sitting after his 1st couple of convictions? well here's what's very difficult of the um,

the woman who started this case in the us version at once. it was a, uh, a government employee or whatever the case may be. some work in the us virgin islands government. 3 days after she started it, she was fired, she lost her job. so it is very difficult to do this when the president is said, if you go after these people, you're going to have some significant problems and in your life. so yes, you know, when people feel like look, i'm going to get paid to do a job. but if i run my mouth too much or ask too many questions, bad things are going to happen to me. people tend to keep their mouth shut. hey, go turn on some water or fix the electricity and leave and don't ask any questions . and there's a bonus in it for you. that's the way the world works. wow. tell us all this time except now we're getting it in a literally a live motion at action live action as we get growing. thank you so much for joining us. stick around just because when we return after the break, we're going to continue this conversation and look at if this can we mean a new era of accountability in the

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but simply the difference between itself and its neighbors. the welcome back. i'm sky now. he's in, you're watching the 360 view we're discussing, the largest settlement yet for victims of jeffrey epstein. and if this could finally give us insight into his quiet list, typical and was currently nixon and joined us to continue this conversation. okay, let's start before it gets through. sorry about the business side. do you think this settlement will influence the business community and their policies moving forward? other banks will think twice before interacting with people who have been convicted . i don't know of a sex crime. yeah, i do think i do think that they will be concerned. i think that the people involved felt that they were protected in the same way that alex will cost

a cost to said hey, this is a bit protected by intelligence. so i think that people felt that they were protected. if you get involved with some ship tannery and the government's involved, don't worry about it, you're going to walk. i think now when some of these more powerful corporations are approached by intelligence. instead, we're going to do this, that or the other. they're going to have more concerns. they're going to be uh, they're going to be looking out for themselves a little bit more on stringently concerned that something could come out in the long run, regardless of whatever promises they get, the kind of shares what i find to be curious, we have seen bank stops stop doing business with customers over ties with russia or stop doing banks based on political opinions. and even during co rid of his businesses that were staying open and not taking the vaccine. we've seen businesses in the past stopped doing for one reason. political reason. first is another, a social reason. why did it take a settlement like this and an idea of sex trafficking which is clear wrong? why is it taking this to get their realization when they've done it for other

reasons? well, i hate to sound redundant, but because they felt they were put they were protected. there's a difference between someone who acts and believes that there is some level of um, you know, that could be held accountable in some way as opposed to those who have very powerful people saying, don't worry, we got you covered. and i think that's what we're looking at here. we're looking at banks, let's not forget when we look at these, but a banks, when you look at a h. s, v. c. on and on, you find connections to drug cartels. you find that. so i forget a those are still loud. why are we solving wire? they stop, hsbc got caught a laundering money for drug cartels. they went out and hire jim called me and brought him on the board, cleaned it right up and off. they go. so they know a lot of times they can buy their way out of this by high, you know, just bringing in. so like high powered the neo liberal actors on board. we're talking about the separation of church and state and the west all the time. maybe we need separation of the banks and government, but we both know that would be uh,

unrealistic. unfortunately, government do feel though, if we do start seeing the standard, are we asking for trouble for down the road for possible allowance of discrimination by certain business? by encouraging business to interact with him and not with other depending on how popular, how strong those ties are with government as well. but unfortunately now i, you know, i understand where you're going, but i think it's too late for that. if you look at what happened during the during co but such as in canada, where the government said the banks, oh well you donated a few $1.24 people literally donated $25.00 to the truckers had their accounts shut down. so we see that the people in power will arbitrarily and capriciously use their power against the least of us. but the most powerful for the most part, feel as though that they can act with impunity. and most of the time they do this is one of the rare instances where, you know, some, some sunlight actually hit what was going on. and people like you and i get to

discuss it. and but unfortunately it is just you and i, this is a bigger picture and this because like you said, this goes back to security. so let's talk about jeffrey. i've seen a security. what country do you think benefited most? and we usually security, what exact actions do you think jeffrey, i've seen what service was he providing to those and the intelligence agencies, in my opinion, and this is speculation, right? cuz like i said, it's hard to get this one confirmed. we do know that there were a lot of cameras involved. we do know that there were a lot of very high ranking, powerful people involved. it appears to me that this was kind of the classic honeypot that basically they would bring people in, they would get compromising video and or pictures and information regarding people that they had no business being there with. and then ultimately they could influence their decisions at a later date. i would say that an operation of this magnitude was more than one country since it was in the united states. and since it, admittedly, i'm part of the trump administration said i was told by and that this guy's intelligence in the united states. clearly the,

the us intelligence was involved. so you just ask, have to ask yourself, who, who would work with him? certainly the 5 eyes you would have to success. this is basically, this is really intelligence, the 5 eyes, the people that they work with on a day to day basis and all likelihood we're here getting the information they needed for their nefarious activities. why is there not? and i get it, you're out, you're literally asking the kid to visual it the cookie jar thief. why are we not seeing large cries by politicians on both sides of the as cuz i will, but i bet probably 6070 percent of those like an office right now in congress had nothing to do with jeffrey. i've seen in any way. but why aren't they calling on both sides out for congressional investigations into ties of our intelligence with jeffrey, i've seen, are you concerned? my fear would be is because they know this is still a program being run in other ways. not. not that yes, definitely that they understand the dynamics of power in washington dc. and let's

face it. what happened? geoffrey epstein, you know, who wants to get people don't know literally. jeffery epstein was put in a cell with a man named nicholas tart, hardly only who was recently convicted for murdering for people when he did. so they tell us we're going to look out for jeffrey epstein. we have to take care of and make sure nothing happens and they put them in a cell with a guy who's basically a mafia. gorilla school, literally, he strangled this guy, did that. the guy just happen to have 4 people with them unrelated. so we kill, excuse me, 3 people. so we killed the other 3 just because they were there. they put epstein in the cell with this guy and he committed suicide. so in viewing that particular scenario, if you're i, where i ask what we knew about jeffrey epstein, based on what we learned, we'd probably, regardless of what we knew, it would probably come out. i don't know, nothing. right as well. yeah. we don't even go anything. but as a part of the problem with this, and it's not just the way, it's not just the american,

what other intelligence agencies are you mentioned is rarely in the fact that does a maxwell's father was given this huge stately fear or by the israeli government. and he was not actually a member of, here's apparently government socially, so which is never we, which is on heard of before. why are these factors being the front pages of the new york times for get the government? where is the media and covering the story and putting these issues on the front page of every newspaper every day until they got their answer. well, all you have to do is read a couple of new york times stories, and you get to the 2nd or the 2nd paragraph, and it says, anonymous intelligence officials tell us that fill in the blanks turned on m as in dc, cnn 5. all of them, all of the above and they have intelligence officials, former retired, whatever intelligence official saying this and that. so there is an incestuous relationship between the us and media, if that's the right word to use and the intelligence agencies to a point where if there's told that's an error, we're just going to leave alone. they're going to do it and the people that they

are putting on sticks on stage are literally intelligence operative. so certainly they would work with their comrades to can, to ensure that we remain in the dark about these types of activities. we talked about the america in the us intelligence. we talked about his really what other countries do you think we know? do we have in my 6 what other countries intelligence do you think would have had ties to jeffrey? i've seen him would find it beneficial to keep this quiet list on well, since there was a member of the royal family who was intricately involved in this operation. in not saying what he was from the other end of it and that he was accused prince andrew, shall we say he was at a minimum of twos to being involved with young girls. certainly i would say in my 6 would be involved. it would be, i don't know that they were, it would be reasonable to conclude that if in fact, this is an intelligence agency knowing that one of the jeffrey happens a proceeds associated with a former, intel is rarely prime minister and that a member of the royal family is allegedly involved and those are the 2 countries

that i would look at 1st. but again, if you look at as an example of what happened with crossfire hurricane the uh, we had most food from roles we had down or from uh, australia. so the 5 vises uh, you know, i think is one intelligence agency at this point. okay, so then going forward from this thing we, we had a problem with trust the media, we have problem with trust. the government shouldn't both of those be working to prevent sex trafficking rings. now we're looking at private business being held accountable for it. is this a positive step? do you believe and accountability at least for business? and will we ever see that happen for government and the truth have how strong the government was tied to epstein, i would say no, it's not the positive for this reason because what we're getting is a shell game. what we're getting is, oh, we caught the people that did it, and this was just some bad people doing bad things. so the accountability would be to trace this back to the intelligence agencies and find out who was behind this and what it was which they can't do. so you can address an issue if you can hold

the people who are involved, accountable, which we can, we can, we can have the mask of who is involved, then we can go after just daily. we can go after bill gates, whoever people who are involved on, on the periphery, but those who actually the puppet masters are going to walk. and so therefore, i don't, i don't see this is a positive development for accountability. you would have thought $290000000.00 to be a wake up call by guess, swingers biggest jp morgan and you realize you still have a lot more to lose. you keep your mouth shut. thank you so much for doing this car on the, on this issue and will continue to fall. we will keep this in the headlines when everybody else isn't. i am sky now. here's and this has been your 360 view of the news affecting you say show us the

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