ration must take into account the risks associated with the fact the great export route pauses near the combat to area. process seamless has no way to check if the forwarding back a sol, so we'd check the the green from your brains. if they don't read web post instead because it would be a very convenient way for the west to supply levels to print and no resource. you know, on that, on the lateral rece rush, do pest control the skies rupture causing the rustic and a sheet, a crane. so the trucks, you know, transporting in western western arms. it's the median best. so uh, full of the uh tray is helping the grand create this. and because of this and with weapons on board, it has no way to check. and roger has no way to stop it until these green d o is in force. so i think the message from viruses, if you don't feel the condition so that you, if you misuse it,

happens to be forced to plan web. us do great that you is not going to work. and the one procedure is that people who supply weapons by the c o 2 great, these people would not be secure ahead in the program, slaps was. so i'm just helping those in need a problem, a disabled bill of russian, businessman on charge us there isn't right. western states and tim laughing, euclidian children dislike their parents. banking him is what we'll have more or less a little later this out. the along anticipate is some has been seen last time. it was in need of the end of the you and brussel didn't go in favor with some powers mahmoud of the cycle community last in america in kind of been states up and did the agenda with harsh criticism, saying us, lead sanctions violate international using sanctions and blockades,

without the support of international law, is something that only serves to penalize the most vulnerable parts of the population. we need peace to overcome the significant challenges we have to face instead of eliminating hunger for so many millions of human beings. we're spending billions of dollars to feed the war machinery which only causes more destruction and famines. the see like you, summit is the moment to say enough for more all of this. so my last post live to also you contribute to rate, to malls and wage was always great to see. so interesting was coming from the brazilian present. and so i go through what else was said at the gambling, please a yeah, it's like when you're really angry with somebody and so you just punch a wall really hard and hope that they notice the resilient president statement here really captures the tone of this summit. between the you and the community of latin american and caribbean countries,

also known as the larger. it's taking place this week, but it can best be described as i guess tense if only because latin america. yeah. for them, it's kind of like agreeing to meet up with an old high school pals who, you know, wants something from you every single time you see them. they pretty much say that, but they also try to frame it as something that's good for you. and then your best interest. so the went into this meeting, the 1st of its kind it 8 years with really clear objectives to get support for ukraine to get its hands on some resources. and to get in touch in on the regions slow dance with china and russia. so right out of the gate, lula lambasted western sanctions without directly confronting the vineyards. often we was talking about though, and more often than not, they just blindly agree and follow us section. so he also made a very pointed reference there to the billions blown by the west on its military

industrial complex, using ukraine is a pretext. and again, that's not something on which the us is alone right now. they're all trying to get a slice of that particular pipe. now the honduran president joined in on this particular pylon and put brussels on the spot, demanding that the you stand up against some of washington punitive measures taken against latin american countries. the seal of east summit must approve a resolution demanding the end of the blockade against cuba. it is necessary to n piracy and the confiscation of goods, because we're all exposed to one day finding that our monetary reserves have been frozen and foreign banks. or we do not have the possibility of chartering transport for the goods that are people's need. we demand the elimination of the barriers that prevent us from normalizing our commercial relations with sister countries like nicaragua. so there's been an undercurrent of grapes and

resentment throughout this entire meeting with europe's colonialist history in latin america and slavery and africa brought up and the prime minister of st. vincent and the grenadines, who's also present a pro 10 for a c lot. also a vote restorations. he said that the summit can become yet another venue for focusing on ukraine either and that. well, there are other places for that which are better suited. which probably meant that brussels had to throw like 20 percent of its content because that's all they ever seem to be able to talk about these days. out. apparently, spanish president pedro sanchez invited, you printing presently bonner's lensky to the summit. but apparently it was opposed by some latin american leaders. zalinski confirm that himself rock moscow did not miss the opportunity to weigh in on that particular offer. maybe so liskey the former ask for a pin star and a new version of the movie wedding process where he just goes around, barging it on global events from oscars to your vision and political meetings that

don't actually involve his country, maybe some city hall meetings, venezuelan president nicholas monroe was not present at the summit of his vice president dusty rodriguez was keep in mind that the us still has a $15000000.00 bounty on maderos head. they've accused him of narco terrorism, even as washington negotiated a venezuelan oil deal to help us economy amid the global energy instability and energy crunch that they helped create over anti rush. some sections still, mid euro acura would the same anti sanctions message as his regional counterparts. and a mattress that he issued around the same time as the state as the summer was getting, getting into year i, joe, i thought the voice of venezuela will be heard there the truth of venezuela to demand that the sanctions ceased. that the blockade see so that the aggression

against venezuela ceased guess it's a lot going to fuel luck. brussels hasn't exactly been in the habit of standing up against washington's agenda, but it seems like lots in america wants to see proof of some kind of backbone that isn't just a trojan horse for washington's interest. and brussels has been trying for years now to seal a trade deal with a lot in american region. but it's all foreigners are pretty livid about that potential, particularly when it comes to beef from latin america. and it's potential to depress the prices of e u. farmers own supply, which really seems to be one of the use big specializations these days. they did pretty much the same thing when they flooded eastern europe with you printing grain from the black sea grain deal. now, the even seems to lack of vision beyond whatever washington puts in front of them at any given time, and for all of latin america's efforts here. well, that really doesn't seem likely to change anytime soon. and so the thing and a, to raise a mazda in the oxy going to be that was good to see you and those who are things

again right now, let's get more information on this as go live now to brazil as feet, super low scientists, bruno lima, russia, thanks so much for joining us here too. so thanks again novice uh, take care of with my the most. well, i think most people intrigued about the brussel summit between the you, i'm less than them. i think of this was the 1st meeting, all of its kind in 8 years, but well is behind the revival of the ties as well. we must recognize that in our countries here lives in america. we defend so much on which one is the president. for example, during that time just move the nest of patient in a good chavez has a very well done ties between us and uh, a high level profile for negotiating and doing businesses the blockage economic

lucky. now little uh do have, i mean things, if occasion, off international diplomacy, presidential diploma. so i would say so who close the gap between their opinion and the in the back of fluid? and why to do this to spread and diversify our uh, international trade in all international business. and trying to escape from, i would say the trend bulky was the only dollar as international risk. that's why the impacts of c lock in united. a repeating unum, economic for and is meeting the, the 1st half is the sign, the agreement between mecca. sure. and the rope in union, and they say about their farmers. but the principal, the 1st question is not to allow in a real p and companies the parts of the state supply as of late in the american south american countries. this is the 1st step, not to allow them to do this and we can sign the agreement and send it to us in

this summit. so that was conducted. i assume both sides have expectations you briefly told was about i'd be elaborate a little bit more. i do think the, the both sides were able to get what they wanted from the, from the deal from the meeting. uh, maybe. uh, that's only 2 questions to go farther to the steps though. uh, the 1st of them is this, uh, not allow. it will be in companies to be in suppliers off states. uh uh, uh, also the south american states. this is the 1st question. the other one is the repeating farm. is that one to boot to green? i would say um greenberry, or between the farmers off of america, and they have a business on south america and their capacity of reducing if we go forward those 2 steps, especially from the brazil, the presented to, we can sign the agreement. i think that there will be

a new williams signed the lives for us, that the ones which much money, on least another can fund, especially for the recalls the shuttle fund, the jim b o economy. this is a good, fine old se so, but we must understand that because he was moving full hard with diversified international trade and now international. busy the pots and this to go on the south south connection, and we'll try so hard to make business between dollar confidence relates to the american vault using the dollar. that's why to have to have connection mr. repeat a new and then we have to have connection to touch with them. countries with russia, south africa unions, especially china, not to lose he anymore the dollar into not having there. we still have all thoughts in his being, i would say blackmailed by us because of this thing, something looking well that's so that's kind of nice to my next question and if you don't mind entering the you the us, i'm particularly the us. they've been trying to get out of the country as a distance themselves from russ. i mean,

we know brazil as part of the bricks association along with india, china and south africa. but is, has a bit of a low resistance or so that pressure, um, or, you know, or, or wants to be on this. the uh, this is the 2 sides of the colon. uh for the internal politics, the domestic politics, the majority leader, the hinge american media, they stand together really for ukraine, and then the natal or the powers that be the real part of that the, the, as a business exports complex. they are together with russia and they want to buy a fertilizer from russia. lots one to have a speculation. a speculation high prices for crops and see the fall is that the brazil, especially they understand that we must have businesses russia and the must have at

the possibilities to lose you by any work feed fertilizer from russia. this is a must be situation for us. excellent. and political 5 is bruno leo, russia, as always, so thank you so much for joining us there. about the pleasure talking to you. thanks. again. a group of 20 major economies. zip is divided over that position is on the plane conflict. is it a gathering of economic and financial policy that goes from the bulk is expected to and without a joint statement? as host nation, india remains defiant against wisdom pressure to denounce this key trading partner . russia, in the russia, ukraine war is not our creation or that of developing or emerging countries. it is not a priority for us. india is priorities or development issues, growth more financing for multilateral institutions, technological transformations,

and supporting the un sustainable development goals. swab the on fortune is that ukraine has been almost sticking points. now, india has seen it's your loan g, 20 presidency. not only is in dallas moment in the sun, a box as to south moment of the sun. and what is happening is that the west is insistent that russia be condemned to green. and of course that is become a sticking points. now this is something so happened this time in the finance ministers need the bill for ministers need as well, which is held in new jersey several weeks ago. i'm the forced finance assume needs as well. no joint communicate a. what does that really mean? is that india has come up with a chest statement, but all the issues that india has wanted to keep its focus on. for example, oh, as we talking about the finance minister we've india has time and again pushed

ports twin single, small global economic golf architecture to fox. somebody deals also wanted to keep the focus on multi lab to buying something. also that the restriction as well as the other important issues like adobe principles for all kinds these, for example, and all of those issues and getting washed away as the west wants to habits. we the want to condemn rochelle for the also the more in ukraine of costs washer on china . how formed the boxing? that'd be, we want to sign the documents, which mentions the it's all like huge disappointment offering the outcomes to doing much, much as being talked about by india goals as a mediator, as a balancing force. and this is going to become more and more challenging to the run off fall for the g 20 summit, which india will be hosting in september to bullying factors would be hosting,

well, leaders all this block and i'll for india, it is exceedingly voltage. so that, so the issues remain on watch is really taking the total south, for example, the full energy fuel prices. or do you remember india, speech for the african union to be included in the g 20 o which includes they're all $55.00 countries. so really those were important to see was full india, india being very, very tell from the very beginning the ukraine is not an important factor is not an important point for india else presidency. but of course the west being consistent. there are a marring india geo political vision, so to see in that sense and it's lots of pointing out that these challenges now are only going to amplified to the one off to the final g 20 summit which will take

place in new day on the 9th and 10th september the u, as roseville is blueprint to cut my break migration from africa, which involves writing big checks to north africa nations. the block recently agreed on a 100000000 euro due to museum to prevent both pastors by goods trying to reach you . as we agreed to that, we will cooperate on board of management and to smuggling liter and addressing root causes. in full respect of the international law for peace, we will make available more than 100000000 euros of the you funding. this is an investment in our ship, prosperity, stability, added future generations. the partnership with donasia has to be considered as mulder for building new relations with north africa, neighbors,

brussels as also, it's a $150000000.00 euro isn't budget as of what the thing is there and set up for the 900000000, was quote on the table, now that the, you have this framework in place, the most is he gets a strike deals with all the, you know, the african countries naming morocco and the j. that's according to an on a name d u d u official its own. and that comes in stop contrast to the situation of 5 years. yeah. then you up with welcoming my friends with open arms. however, despite the money now being placed, it doesn't solve what was making the africans flee the homelands in the 1st place. specifically, economic crisis, and i think it's the sizes of people have converse on the news in coast in recent months to attempt the dangerous journey to, however, fashions the report of the fullest, hundreds of miles to flee into the desolate regions near the borders of libya and out here they've been up or he's upset to rescue dozens of migrants who exhausted

and the hydrate, gun list, specializing in migration. mohammed crew is not to convince the pay i hope to visit deals with the glasses. this agreement signed by the to these are based on the option, the new so if something dr. destroyed all the framework of human rights, especially when the option doesn't like for the people who was suffering and maverick especially the people of this and the stuff. so again, $1000000000.00 i don't think that i can have to new year to, to, to, to get a little from the sick on a crisis. and $1000000000.00 cannot be viewed as a both way of to prosper g. i. finally, it is unlucky is of this and to see if he's in the address a chinese as kind of a,

china's and therefore the notion of a trust. so if you just discuss it in the context of appeal, to be one sided as well, that's all for this news. our club boy goes on, was a problem. next, the check out will be back on the top of the hour with more investment news. hope you're doing this, but the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to was a part of the father of greek. tried to ask away as a remark, more than 2 and

a half millennium go choose is always the 1st casualty of war. and the case of the cranium of war for this unprecedented levels of censorship and deliberate distortions should have been banished even before the interstate cause. so it is began but may be true. or on the ring reality it would pay the weight to pieces both to discuss it. i'm now and join, but nichol, i petrol, professor of political science at the university of rhode island. and also all the tragedy of your praying was classical and greek. tragedy can teach us about the conflict resolution. professor petra is great to talk to you and thank you very much in advance for this rather unusual. i'm pretty intriguing. look at the ukranian conflict as well. thank you. i look forward to discussing it. now i've given you your focus on the greek to g, g teams, a left me a cool one more of them. uh, they saw, sophocles course started that old man making mistakes, but, and wouldn't man you,

when he knows that his course of action is wrong, repairs the evil, the only crime, according to sophocles is pride isn't what's your book is all about that the, this construct essentially rolls out of hubris, a few bits of the politically leads, which by the way, some greeks considered as one of the biggest fans. yes. but not just this tragedy, not just this war. own wars arise out of hubris, which at the beginning of and as i say, the middle to the end of the 20th century. we have a number of realist, political thinkers, international relations spirit. people like hans morgenthau and ronald neighbor who highlighted this as a common human flaw. and encouraged statesman of their

error of the cold war to look beyond it and to compare their predicament during the cold war to the predicament of their predecessors, including all the way back to the greeks and persians to. and i think it would be very good for all of us to look back to that example. and remember that the lessons that they tried to provide to us, which professor richard natalie about. well, i relied on a lot and coming up with this concept and applying it refers to as the tragic vision of politics. what i appreciate in your book is uh, not only a reference as to ancient literature, but also your, your political directness. you're essentially saying that your queen was conflicted even before the russian military incursion began. rich, which is an obvious thing, but it's

a pretty uh world statement to making the in this day and age. how far back do you trace the origins of this war? well, in later or in political debates, i argue it can be traced roughly a 150 years back. of course, if you read ukrainian nationalist historians, it goes all the way back to the origins most uh, and the conflict which i see. i get a lot of historical analogies and biblical analogies to chain and able in romulus and remus and jacob and esau, this conflict of 2 brothers. and so this theme recurs in ukrainian nationalist, historical writings, and the problem the injustice that they, that they highlight is that the wrong brother, the god,

the benefits and it should have been them. it should've been here, which was the mother of russian cities, and therefore, should have dominated over the great your asian land mass, and must be, should have been the provincial back water. but professor culture, as far as i understand your faces, it's not just a historical grievance. it's actually a lead reality because as you state in your book, the conflict within the ukraine stems from the states reluctance to recognize the so called all the ukraine. the fact that this 3rd of its population considering themselves russians in terms of the cultural identity um ukrainian in terms of that civic identity. and i think this is actually a crucial point to uh, of the size that these people considering the ukraine as that own country who's stopped. why do you think the state refuse to reciprocate by flu? accepting that identity? so regardless of the language,

they speak with the books they read because early on out there and in the years that roughly decade i would say i'm more following ukrainian independence. they made the wrong choice. well, they made a nationalist choice rather than a civic, a choice at the time of the ideas of federalism in ukraine. we go back all the way to the late 19th century. it was recognized that there was a great diversity in the territory of ukraine. and that federalism would offer an optimal solution which had been tried all around the world, basically exchanging freedom of a local culture in exchange for civic loyalty. and that that was

a perfectly good formula for patriotism. however, over this time, there was a counter veiling argument made by ukrainian nationalist, many of whom drew their inspiration from ancestors who had emigrated to the west after world war 2. and it seems that they retain a sense of entitlement to be able to define what is the true ukraine even against those who are living in the country at the time. and they brought this sense of entitlement. and to some extent, i would say vengeance in their hearts for why they've been done as they see it during world war 2 to their uh, to their, to their parents and grandparents. and as a result,

to try to construct the ukraine, which was more thoroughly and truly new credit, purely ukrainian, which is really a nationalistic, okay. well, um, so just as soon as it is, uh, pretty xenophobic statement. uh, suggesting that the, some people living within the country are fever her than others, and cultural or, you know, bloodlines firms but, and your projects. we said in your book about, um, you know, parking this with then uh, ukrainian, that leaves. but i wonder if uh, uh, it's just as dire tunnel vision, the own government says, or do you think perhaps they, they were also help by ukraine's western allies. because the ministry, tragic is we have no characters to consort, are found the plains of castilla 2 for the own, usually less than noble aims. inevitably, and again,

i don't see this particular conflict as different from any other civil war. most civil wars, i would say all civil wars have an external component because they're always neighbors or other forces that we've derived benefits from either the weakening of the country that is undergoing this catastrophe or from a replacement of the old. the lead with a new a lead, more sympathetic to them. and ukraine, which kind of been and the end is to some extent, i still hope is destined to be at the crossroads of europe. it has to recognize itself as a cross roads as a bridge. but instead, so far, has, has articulated in its, i'm on its elite. so i would again argue a sense that we are

a ballpark against the east. so an extension of the west pushing back of the eastern part of, of europe, which i do consider again in russia to be part of, of eastern europe. i would also say, going back to a big or earlier point about nationalism. i have a very specific and i hope, precise definition of nationalism, which is indeed it is a form to tell a caring as i see nothing, nothing since the end of the 19th century. that in noble is nationalism nationalism has been transformed in by the 1920s, already and certainly by the light in 30, the 1940s into an instrument of total integrity of them. and it becomes today the only truly effective and resonant instrument of national tequila terrace. now you're measuring your brain being and across roles between east and west on the uh,