around because we will not continue to serve in a military. that means traits us or have to protect my guys. i will do everything in my power and i will not allow idiots like this to, to, to effect the war if we need to win legion combined is disregarding the planning and just sending troops and ukrainians, and wisdom is into these battles without the some the benefit of these, these operational plans, and that's a, that's a lot of people getting killed to little effect a little um, battlefield effect before it was a very, very experience people were talking, some officers were being there for a long time. they're one of these guys talking about leaving this conflict that they've invested by much again. they want to see you crying, we and as we older and then they threatened with uh, with gyle and uh, and with because they simply trying to get the get the job done. so i look into it is just pressing. one has to keep in mind is that military speaking we're getting was different. the flushing side, we have a function of, there's a, there's a coherence in terms of stacking sense. prodigy i that was,

i think we thought as well and the way that always be used on the side of the ukraine. it's more like, uh, anything is kind of being funneled into the battlefield. dash to see what needs to be or how synchronization should i say between the, the officers themselves. the idea is more of a political conflict which bears on the sustaining the conflict by all means, especially in as far as washington is concerned. g on the election 124 divided by ivy distribution can afford to uh, have a not going to point oh, on their hands. it's an a, as admitted to the old, most of the old as all of the we expose it from ukraine on the black sea going them didn't actually go to african nations in need this like that being a stipulation, lots of that's why sometimes of tried to blame on russia for food insecurity on the

african continent. a 95 percent of ukrainian weight is exported outside of africa. but if african countries don't receive that wheat, they will look forward elsewhere and inevitably, the global price will rise. the consequence is that it will become more difficult for africa to buy it, but the stabilisation of regions that already face difficulties is clearly a problem that also affects europe. to get more or less that's for us to live. so i'll take on to is it rachel? miles and rachel is good to say so, right. so how is that in the west is trying to blame for the pin the blame on russia for this one instead of also to join to the great and went to europe. well the time defense ministers suddenly a global agriculture expert now, and the result is pretty much what you might expect. you pretty much have to admit

that yes, the grain is not going down for god, but he's also at the same time going to make people say that the grain deal is about feeding africa. when in reality, it's about making sure that you create and terms of profit by dumping it in europe, where it ends up feeding live stock, and specifically spades doping up stains pork exports and at that global business. and it's also depressing the value of local european farmers own supply. now, africa was barely getting a fraction of it, as administer said, judging by the united nations on data as well. and here this, the time minister is clutching his string pearls and imagining that it's going to destabilize africa. if this continues, well more like it's going to be stabilize the europe if they have to now feed their own grain to the pigs rather than using ukraine's for that purpose. and other

western leaders are seeing similar sob stories about how russia is the bad guy for pulling out of the deal. a busy something very serious. this creates a lot of travels for many people weeping eyes that hung over their people. the result of russia's action today, weapon isaac food, using it as a tool, as a weapon. it's war against ukraine. russia is responsible for denying food to people who are desperately need around the world and to contribute to rising prices . that's double surprised, the fact that the russian president has canceled the grant agreement is not only another attack and ukraine, but an attack on the people on the poorest people in the world. hundreds of thousands of people not to see millions urgently need greene from ukraine. and since or quite conveniently, these critics apparently have no problem whatsoever with the fact that western sanctions caused shipping and insurance problems that ultimately prevented russian

grain from being treated equally under this particular deal that was supposed to cover both ukraine and rushing grain. and they also don't seem to care watch that russian president vladimir puts in repeatedly spelled it out for them like they were 3 year olds. that the grain under the deal was not getting to the country's most in need. and the whole thing was really just the dodgy pre text to hamstrung russian exports. well clearing this path for you frames to get out. and now the key of moscow, or apparently both, also set to consider grain ships in the black sea potential carriers of military cargo. so normal weapons deliveries to ukraine while pretending that it's humanitarian cargo. busy headed for starving applicants, you know, what we've had so far as the ships that kind of mozy into the black sea for deliveries like their thomas, the train with the big smiling face on water. and ultimately things added up

suspiciously, blowing up all around them. so that's apparently good to come to an end. sometimes $214.00 also said that russia, if you're consider returning to the deal that got the west coast 1st, you know, take off the cloud shoes and try to be serious for once. and if you crane figure that it could just rug off any problems, getting the great out through black seaports and just pivot to land core doors in europe. oh, good luck with that. because no less than ki. i was best paul in europe, poland and other eastern european allies have put an end to that with no real and insight aid. right. so oh the right to the interesting and a um i found yeah, yeah. and um and, and back in may. um, i know that there was a statement made by the polish uh,

government regarding that, but that kind of confirms that ultimately that's an issue for pulling right now. and that statement was made in the last few hours, but europe's very own. queen ursula vander live european commissions and elected president stood alongside zalinski and promised that the you would get a grip on the fact that it, for some reason, could not manage to transport. you printing gray and through europe without dumping the food all over itself, like a toddler. and they said that, you know, they'd sort that out with a number of states that were suffering from this classic example of brussels incompetence. well, zalinski was fuming and considered that the band was anti you crated, which is laughable coming from poland and completely unacceptable on the part of the you. but it's one of those rare points on which actually poland at hungry agree, and they really don't agree on much when it comes to the conflict. a new crane with hungry being pro russia and poland being much more antagonistic towards russia.

but the hug during agriculture minister said that the government would also protect its farmers with all means at its disposal and it really underscore a debt. regardless of those e. u. member states attitudes towards russia, they won't hesitate to send zalinski into the back seat as the last priority, if it means protecting their own national interest and their own political backsides. and you know media. queen ursula was elected democratically and accountable to the citizens. she claims to represent they maybe she start doing the same thing as well. right. and i as a very interesting, uh, sorry for the mix of that. right. so thanks for that report. appreciate it. i now we have an idea in politician as the move got of a patient, his thoughts on why the west continues the lashes out at russia. it is

clear that he was on the road. it's brand new side of the bargain. it just didn't want it to voice the don't hold their own. sorry to be bugging them. i pretend to home. would you be good if you're warranty? i just situation is always full. the was done. the when it variables name it is did when it took me several of them it is. bob doesn't look at this grandview when the grand deal was going very well. the worst, where a somewhat and it's a beautiful quiet about why the good been, if you should, is wanting to sleep to send comfortable i saw where i just needed more to know degree and it is top. do you know that the, when to 1st 0 is please all collision is bent though, right. and with demand to 70 percent of the grant that they used to get with most of for you. that's why they come out of groceries. but simply because it doesn't say about them anymore on december, the workshop issue that if there's any em should, but do parts included lexical because c dot emitter 3 coal,

i'm wouldn't be shut down, you can mid december 3rd, they'll blame him, go shop on the sound. of the equipment to clear the mitchell within the system, which is why the world needs more type paula, or dot dot. we can now a line in the border oh, priorities bears. when i go to say that as opposed to the cultural propaganda and to see what else the board ross on you, but it's for much of the global solve, but a lot of good warranties washington says that it will provide an additional $380000000.00 in humanitarian assistance for africa, it's being seen as a move to counter rushes, rising influence on the content by relying on such a fact those us possibly initial she with soviet union. the availability of could take on natural values offices back in by caught up with you to kind of meet the needs on the job for you to call opportunities of securing instructed to community

business on market time. house one can predict mostly off future targets for my life duties. and us will just submit because should anticipate this possibilities a number full russia on this proxies what that by dip into the keels in the saw, hey, i know that this is in africa because based with do not this dates on or that democracies to our bundle in the region, well, what we all seeing is that the legacy of this kind of scene as it has become quite the dangerous one and the through altitudes history, the united states. and that to clear objectives on the applicant partners as a result of backs its policies a lot to the reaction to be a mix would exploitation, neglects, and hall hosted attempts the at she needs here in the system. even to this day, washington, primarily views the, the african continent as a problems to the manage the app. but it's dave off as

a cost much shaping the next to seem to be. there is no question that in deepening and expanding these ties. us national security interests are being impacted from what we have seen in the past few months that i'm promising the economy and demographic trends that have driven advocates. imagine that as quite a significant claim on the world stage. a lot of countries, a lot of causes and another ally of the kind of access to data. but the united states has been very slow to establish a clear and for active policy for africa. this is a strategic a blind spot. i must say that most the u. s. policy makers cannot seem to shake, and one said that they are competitive to not have here we don't see rush for creating fault lines in societies or engineering anti western sentiment. rather, russia targets and exploits those countries where these fault lines already exist

of wisdom because she's a still, she's the continent in a way that was internal dynamics or social structures. and they have established your own systems by giving per are which c g economy, ex, location. it's got a so bad that they have, nobody succeeds and very, very concerned on the release sions, between russia and many other countries on the african continent. it's to a point where it's been going by me into already did to african countries has once again become the west of main goal to try and see legitimate and try me to come across as the off ways of 2 african countries and trying to pace russia south africa has recently been subjected to immense pressure. you know that to choose that size and that also goes for the missing and you just, you

a matches of african countries as well, which we have seen several times the how those, it's a few reasons i should have made the matches worse, especially when it gets construct and some of the conventions of these all the kind of tactics of my say that to make ethic in countries look so russian stage because west has influence in african countries and public opinion as often being overlooked by wisdom. democracy, specifically mark moscow targets weak, unstable and failing states to seek their entry for influence. it is use this formula in countries like molly, the central african republic and sudan, all of which were in the throes of violence. instability and political uncertainty and possessing a dearth of transparency or democratic institutions. this political and security involvement often comes with a commercial component. under these arrangements, russian security assistance, political support, and financial interest become entirely intertwined with those of host countries.

making untangling these relationships even more difficult, then try to been traditional bilateral ties of, if for russians engagement in africa or with african countries as new. when the actual fact, it is not the relation between russia and africa are backed by it's i geological commitment is to d calling as ation. i mean, the soviet union as you own the established partnerships with african countries. soon after they claimed the independence, its, its involvement was driven by a mixture of economy, interest, and the need to build alliances. soviet union even engage their menu, the cheese across the african parts and then including the likes of my b as the likes of the. it also provided and support across a variety of fields that. ringback changing from industrial to military assistance,

the russian influence on the continent is for a foster that at any point the end of the cold war, african lead is also going to be sick to, to these moves. and these of which is a, by russia so much so that the u. s. is concerned, that's african leaders has been too close to russia, which could put some of our efforts in the countries lives. so that's it, as low as the end of what you need to add to fitness in any team could be african leaders get political cover from russia at the united nations and other international for they get security for themselves at home. a continued hold on power off book revenue streams and the counter to western lead reform processes. all of this is exposing the limitations of use diplomacy towards africa, but also the short sightedness off it's broader engagement within the continental. i mean, the relationship dominated by for an age to the detriment of foreign investment,

even do a search for a to and it sort of to russian energy supply. that was an example that had demonstrated how insufficient this investment in africa's image is stick to since made it into a missed opportunity for the united states. and i, and this airlines. all of these elements could demonstrate a growing since the fatigue within the wisdom, the forms of engagement with the african continent, and which is also coupled with a message. russia, meaning that this could explain the reasons why many african states and now started looking to russia for assistance. and only while the united states remain stuck in old ways of doing business. russia is taking the opportunity to explore multiple avenues of engagement sort of advocate size that modem falls. he's

hundreds of expressive designs, enjoying the britain, streubal, emerging economies ahead of an upcoming, somebody's into a. how does the next month of support in south africa's envoy to the group? i also love it, says the brakes have become a rising power in a developing multiple world. the brakes is good. this brakes is not it. close. a lot of countries brakes has always been changed relationship with the lot. the global community says 2013, but it says i had an outreach program whenever we were at summit. we've had the brakes outreach and since 2016, the brakes for us. well, we invite b just from the global sol, as well as the asian leaders into the breaks leaders. and we are going to be really the same at the 15 birdsong that would be hosted by south africa in the august in john, this book president from a full size invited on efforts and leaders,

as well as at least for the leaders from the global south leaders that currently it's the major a vision of bodies like the g $77.00 as in cat, a column, the gulf corporation console, and other such rece, the bodies to the summit to interact with the exhibits. so i think bruce has always been in closer. we have been open to talk to these in the world. we do not distinguish between the north and south. we will talk to any entity that has the same vision for model. these drugs has any clickable silver on it. well, we do not much to lice. lots, lots of water because as you know, the developing lower the cost for 85 percent of the global population. and yet we are on the margins of the decision making. it has been no reform, the united based system. no reform of the security comes or no reform of the

bretton woods. it's a fusion. and that is one breaks is charting and you find a new black to find or tentative. that would be unjust and unfair, an okay, global governance institutions that exist today, but it's do not seek to become a governance even only saw what break seeks to do is become a major influence in an inclusive manner to work for change. we have looked through the periods of domination, we have looked through the beauty of the engine was we don't want that was where we have one or 2 global engine. one's. we don't want that unit for the load. we talked to the jail, we don't want to buy for the world. we took the reject that because we have see the divisions that springs to the global community and that works, that guest creating a more inclusive look. what breaks want us to see is a world where we have multiple polls, the follow market, the lines of partnerships for the bedroom and all or countries and. ready and to

make the united nation system reflective all the kind of global realities and that it is not today should be a good you. now africa and uh, that's the african agenda. let's take a look at i listen to what was said in the se, in the, in the breaks conference the, the, the, the kind of for the use of the agenda, the meeting in to have that focus on cooperation among the british countries. specifically for health education align emphasizes with development. they also there's gonna assess subsidies to transition away from the us dollar international

trade of the issue that has come out. so these, in the, in the, in the a commissions, most of us is about to be the creation of form tendencies to so that they know the to, because not that's what it said on one. so the kind of in see that to me needs that it would be quote, that way pessimist find it will put you into of saving the must actually be in a position to say 2000 should have been dependent on one. so we covered right side of the thing. if we break that right now, we'll be back to the top of the hour. we'll see you then the

hello and welcome across stop were all things are considered on people about american voters are rarely interested in foreign policy. during election cycles, that said the issue of ukraine may be the exception this time round, particularly among the g o p voters, much of the republican base, a sour them ukraine policy. they see it as biden's war. the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess door to send me what are we in budapest, he's a pod cast or the goggle, which can be found on youtube in locals. and in lisbon we crossteck, like morris is host of the redacted news podcast in

a former fox news baker. gentleman cross the reason the fact that needs to get a jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated right, george in budapest, it was very interesting how over the last few weeks out of the ukraine policies played out in the us presidential election. but having said that, a foreign minister lobrado said on the last new cycle, which i think is quite interesting said, we know what we're fighting for. what is the, by the administration fighting for the very good questions as far as one can tell, is fighting for the right to keep the wall going in definitely is doing good business for us on the manufacturers. and it's getting russians. honest. lindsey graham, same is the best money i ever spend, you know, the reference of dying. so i am back to live the only strategic objectives of it. is it possible to do some on the case? so by them, i mean when it comes to the republicans, all of us, they,

they're all the, the neo cons, and there is donald trump and trump himself. however, as always, has been ambiguous. so, mean he's not quite sure. does he want to be the tough guy who's going to, you know, stand up the boat and bring this waterman and photos they want to be the piece? make a will finally. uh then you know, be, deliver what everyone it obviously wants to is bringing it both ways. and this happened during his presidency with me. you know, when you tried to sit on 2 stools, try to use a full in between them. you know, clean. it's very interesting looking at the main stream media coverage of the conflict in ukraine and it's, it's about 99.9 percent in one direction. but at the same time, you have a lot of people and if you look in alternative media and the pod cast and whatnot is almost the reverse, there's in an enormous amount of skepticism in this skepticism is only getting more intense as people actually learn more about the context of the conflict,

your thoughts? i, i agree with you. i think that there's been an awakening when we were covering at the beginning of the war and drawing attention to this is not just started in february. this goes back many, many years. there's a lot of context here. let's talk about victoria newland. let's talk about all of the pieces under the obama administration that were put in place to get us to this point. the expansion of nato, and people would say, no, no, you can't talk about that. we were banned and blocked in censored and taken off youtube and now being there so that we, we, you know, you know how it goes, right? so you've, you've been expand now. i think there's this awakening, this unfolding. and even just among, i know anecdotes right, really don't fly, but even like among friends who are sort of, well, maybe had, you know, ukrainian flags flying or, or, or pulled up in their, their, their twitter bios. you've seen a removal of that. you've seen flags removed just even going around portugal, other parts of europe, where you've had all of the flags and subway stops and,

and billboards. and everything had been removed. and i think there's a growing awareness, and i think it's starting to trickle into the main stream, and i'm encouraged by that. it's a i like when people become educated. yeah, yeah, but it's sometimes it's really hard to get it out there. it doesn't charge. i mean, we, you, we could all be very skeptical here and take a step back. okay. so the bite and administration is for the war, overwhelmingly, the trump is against bite. and so support trump, you see what i mean? how it kinda plays that, that plays into that because it's clayton is mentioned, you know, the more you're educated about this, the more questions that are, that are brought up. but then there's also a political wedge issue i'm against base because he's for it is i think there is part of that as well. george? yes. uh without question. and uh, and i think that's the problem. there's originally but with chrome and, and his acolytes is that they're constantly attacking by them. but it's not clear

always what are they attacking by and follow because some of them are attacking buying but not doing, you know, do i have a ukraine? and, and drum says what it wouldn't have happened if i were president because i was so top and you know, built in with the dad to do anything with me. and um, and so, so, uh, the difficulty however, is i may, i, i agree with bleach and is that there is the public perception of ukraine is very different from the perception of the foreign policy making. you lead the policy making your lead is absolutely gone home and supporting the ukraine. but because i think you've greenville, when they just want to go on bleeding, russia. however, the public, as you know, as, as nobody knows who is the best thing about the polls show that there's knowing susie as a board doesn't, you know, no way do you see any demonstrations against russia? um, it's just costing a lot of money and i think that point is saving into people's consciousness to say

we're spending all this money on the landscape. how come, you know, we go on and then, you know, there's no money, but this has no money but health care and then what date with dental care, whatever. but does it promptly infinite amounts of money? but uh, as soon as gets, the question is, how do we get to some kind of democratic accountability. so let's get to the public view. oh, well, we'll do back, we'll get to that with the war powers act, images, pay the past the send, the 2nd half of the program a clinton, i like it. george gave us a wonderful segue into the self destruction of mike pens by and tucker, carlson, which is very interesting is because, you know, as i said in my introduction, you know, much of the republican base is souring on this here, but not the leads and this is one of the things that george and i have talked about a lot over ever since the complex started this iteration of meaning and february of last year. is that now we're seeing the real start difference between what the establishment and everybody else. well,

it was interesting to watch tuckers is this the ration of a lot of these candidates over the past few days and you really, you're absolutely right about it. there's this dichotomy between the people in the audience and the sort of automaton sewer up on stage. mike, pen speaking we're, we're the perfect perfect robot, right? the neoconservative robot, and i think one interesting narrative emerged when you watched all of those interviews. it was this idea of we can walk and chew gum at the same time. and so they're having this very narrow debate right now. biden is too slow to get, gets into ukraine. we would do it more quickly, and that's literally the spatter. yeah, that's the spectrum. you know, and, and so there is no daylight at all between democrats and republicans. but you have this audience sitting there saying wait a minute, why are we sending billions of dollars into this vacuum cleaner? that's.