meaning in february of last year, is that now we're seeing the real start difference between well the establishment and everybody else. well, it was interesting to watch tuckers is this the ration of a lot of these candidates over the past few days. and you really, you're absolutely right about it. there's this dichotomy between the people in the audience and the sort of automaton sewer up on stage mike pen speaking we're, we're the perfect perfect robot, right? the neoconservative robot. and i think one interesting narrative emerged when you watched all of those interviews. it was this idea of we can walk and chew gum at the same time. and so they're having this very narrow debate right now. biden is too slow to get, gets into ukraine. we would do it more quickly and that's literally the better. yeah, that's the spectrum. you know? and, and so there is no daylight at all between democrats and republicans, but you have this audience sitting there saying, wait

a minute. why are we sending billions of dollars into this vacuum cleaner? that's ukraine. why are we doing this? when our bridges are collapsing in the united states, when we have a fit, no crisis pouring across our borders, when people can't afford their rent and they're working harder for less money is the us dollar continues to be valued. so it's amazing to watch this disconnect. but georgia definitely right there is an absolute thirst for continuing the military industrial complex in the united states and just follow the money. and all of those mansions that pop up around washington dc. they're all fueled by the military, industrial complex and defense contractor. so the money is just pouring into washington d. c. and then of course, you'll have this, you will hear in next week. and the military industrial complex will make even more money. once that, that disclosure project comes out, they'll make trillions instead of billions of you know, judge, it was interesting. these was a, nikki haley, me see,

might not have been obliterated, but she certainly learned her lesson from mike pence. ok meeting. she does doesn't really say anything substantive. she never has before. why should we expect that now? but the what the, the, the, the tucker interviews showed. it least if you, if you're interested in the topic of the, there are red lines. there are people have certain limits and they don't like being like, i like to, okay, it's for democracy. okay, so then why are their elections going on in ukraine? okay. well, it's about transparency. why can't you have an audit of all the money that's going? they're excited people, you know, people don't like to be treated as it is if they're children. yeah. then the question, and it's was very striking that the in the 2016 when the trump um, what is this array to his full of his or republican opponents. he did it by

a very clear, unambiguous messages, and we will like to about the rock. thank you. absolutely, it was a con job that and as you went further, he said that they knew it was a tongue job. those people who, you know, the depths of thousands of americans are on them because they lied to the american public and everyone assumed, well, this is the end of trump. you know, you know, he, he dial survivors, and he's the republican vote to seal the deal. yeah. you're absolutely right. we will lied to. and this was in south carolina, you know, where you're the home of all the veterans. yeah. so you're absolutely right. the people want, you know, the true story and the, and they told that everything that they've been told about ukraine about zalinski has been lies. and uh, and that is, that isn't any build. and that's also explains dr. call son's notice, recommendation. i mean, he's standing among the republican is extraordinary, and topic also has been the one person on the main stream media who has been

absolutely outspoken on the the subject of the ukraine. yeah. because he's not afraid. he's not afraid everybody else is put into a posture being afraid of going to i find a bobby kennedy junior, this position on this very interesting to so you have a obviously he's not the frontrunner in the democratic primary because there isn't a democratic primary. but i mean, he is prominent within the party and in alter alternative media. he's very, very popular now, like in the mainstream year. but it's very interesting. you have a bobby kennedy junior in, from, maybe not saying the same things, but both being skeptical holes being skeptical in both being marginalized, uncensored and blocked by the mainstream media. and it's amazing to watch when they say something, what you're allowed, then to cover in the mainstream press or to have again, youtube censoring videos blocking uh, shutting down entire channels because of what bobby kennedy junior has to say. i

don't agree with him on everything at all, but i think when you have a candidate who's willing and afraid to come out and say, you know, why are we doing this? i will, he says, i'm gonna shut down all the military bases around the world. do you ever think they're going to let him become president of the united states? when he says that i'm going to dismantle the military industrial complex. i'm going to take and shut down these military bases i did with my wife and the how can i stay there quite and how can you say that you're going to feed the comment on? isn't that a comment on the, on the, the set you a patient of democracy in america? you just said they'll never allow him to do that? well, i, well, what happened to the democratic process? yeah, i mean that's beside, i think we're now really seeing through this facade that it's the money. it's the donors. all you need to do is go back seen these nuggets of bernie sanders. right when, when m. s. nbc produced theirs and whistle blowers that m. s. n b c came forward and admitted that they were told that they were not allowed to put bernie sanders

on television right then even in their graphics that they had on their screen when they showed who's the court, the candidates running for president. right now, it was interesting to see in, you know, andrew yang and other people removed from the graphic and they had comma la harris on there who was pulling lower than bernie sanders. why? so she's pulling lower your bernie sanders who's winning, but you can't have him on the show. you can't do the man. i have to go to a hard break here. we're going to jump in here. we're going to go have a hard break. and after that hard break will continue our discussion state the

welcome at the cross stuff. we're all things are considered. i'm peters. well, this is a home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. the all right, george in budapest year, in the last new cycle we had other senate rejects congressional powers over nato, article 5, and it was a vote of it losing 16 to 83. we entered the pro 1st part of the problem, talking about the democratic process. now we're talking about trashing the constitution, is that someone else's, another country is security needs trends, the security needs of the united states and part of the constitution. that exactly

is the big driver around the full hasn't they've the proper democratic uh, observation that, you know, optical, 5 of the nose authentic treated does not trump the us constitution, isn't it decisions about going to level of determined by congress and by the us present the not determined by nature, but this is where, you know, the american, the political elite is of no, no, no, you know, we, we've gone, discuss that. we have to be binding on optical 5 is binding on us. but of course, we were told many times the article vibe doesn't say that you automatically go for walks. but even when you look at the north atlantic treaty good makes clear that you're only other obligated to go to war in circumstances as long as your in conformity with 0 nations laws and the constitution. and so i said, well they,

they, except in the north atlantic treaty, except that every nation has to follow its own laws and its own constitution. but it is a measure of how spa america has degenerated. because there was a time when there was senators who expressed discomfort with the united states joining nato, the senators who are expressing discomfort over the expansion of major the was a debate. i mean, wasn't much of a debate, but the list of what's on the debates in the ninety's about expanding nato. now, i mean, other than rand, full and even he does, it has been rather weak. but the other than rampal, there's no one say pay where the hell is the man, are you dragging of the americans into? yeah, well it judge them on our podcast to discuss the right length with the article. one

of the treaty is, which is never mentioned meeting, don't books, always refer, resort to diplomatic means to resolve conflicts here. but clean, what is it? what is the reason why i brought this up in? it's something a trend that i've been observing for a long time. you're in lisbon. you're in portugal. and uh, you know, we've seen how b e. u is subsumed itself to nato because, you know, we've breaks it, you know, the, the, the, you case a back door back into europe is with the european union. but when it subsumed under nato, and it'd be what's called where. so it's just codified exactly the same thing. i got you, i found this article on anti war dot com. i mean, i didn't see it in the main street. i wouldn't have missed it completely if i hadn't gone to alternative media quite well. you, i think you're hitting the, the nail on the head, which is what? well, george did to is what, what is happening to united states. you're literally, you're literally taking away american sovereignty and you're turning it over to

this global on elected body. and it really gets you off the hook, we're seeing it at the world economic forum level. we're seeing at the world health organization level. so that, you know, under a pandemic treaty, what happens? well, the united states government is irrelevant. it's this an elected body that gets to decide with the future of these countries and i think this is, i know there's. busy this chatter and talk about this unit polar order versus a multi polar order, but i really think it is actually, this is the, this is the future. this is the debate right now. do we want to give up sovereignty to these large organizations that do not have the interests of the sovereign powers at heart? and so individual countries, whether it's in netherlands and having other farmers, you know, lots of their, you know, thousands of farms because of something that is drawn up in brussels or the united states pandemic policy is something that's drawn up by the world health organization or why are we sending so many billions of dollars into this cauldron

that's destroying the united states? but all of these questions are not being asked by people in washington dc. you're right, ran paul, maybe the only one that was asking that question and then he's even bent over and allowed these things to pass. oh there's no, there's no audit of the amount of money we're sending there. yeah, i asked for it. well, i guess i didn't get it. okay, i won't hold it up anymore. let's just push it through. so weak is a great way to describe it, and it's really, really troubling. the sentence rejection. you know, this constitution over the, over this i, i'm really what i'm really worried about where we go from here and how much will you see the, the united states senate just had to finally announce that we're no longer at warner rack. after 20 years we, we have to literally, when we even announce a war, when did we actually actually put, when did congress approval war? is there somebody going to do it? but with the recent vote in then go to george right now they will, they will, they even refuse to affirm the constitution physics showing that they don't affirm

the parameters and the sovereignty, but can use that word of the come see if they refuse to do that. that's extraordinary, never happened and i'm not quite sure why quite strongly. i remember a few days ago, they also had a vote, and it was, i think, some congressmen who had a stipulated as a condition of more money for ukraine that the by them is ration come to congress and explain each strategy. what is it trying to achieve? and if it doesn't come and explain what he's trying to achieve, then they'll be no more money. and that was, that goes also voted down. so you can, you are elected politicians who presumably are elected in order to oversee the proper spending of the taxpayers money saying don't mamma we, we don't want to do that yet. you don't have to come to us. you don't have to explain how your, how you're spending your money, and that's the same thing with the old not are we, we don't want to do it. we trust you, you that all this money it is, you know,

100000000000 do 100 bill and who knows how much money has been spent. yeah, it's all being spent perfectly appropriately. do we do with the ritual. they need an audit of donald from businesses in new york city. yes. that's the key. exactly. yeah. that's the most important stuff. right? yeah. the yeah. that, that, that, that's really important. but what you're doing with tax way is money. i, you just go ahead and keep doing what you're doing. you know, clinton, one of the things that i find really bothers and that we shouldn't be surprised is that we will all august remember the run, the to war and the rack. and the same strategy is being used, even though the new york said we lose our less of the watch do. we weren't or less . we, you know, we won't be, we won't fall for this again. but they are because the b, u. nato is phone is a supposed to be a defensive military organization so that you'd be talking about geo political positioning and security. but it's transcended that into a, a, a crusade, a crusade of the west, you mounted joseph browse, you know, the garden,

you know, all of this year. it is, the security is really kind of an after thought here. because, you know, the whole idea of security during the cold war in the sense is being the visibility of security for all we are no longer in that we, we, you know, we, we got untethered from that. okay. and, and as long as we're untethered from that, we're going to be living and autonomy to be in tennis insecurity. you know, by the way, facing, is watching. and that's a great point. it's a question i've asked for years when people would say to me, well this is for you when you hear the rhetoric from george w bush and, and all of them. and dick cheney and others, this is making us safer. that by going into a rack, you know, tie a yellow ribbon around a tree and in america, and this is making us safer. i mean, my brother was in baghdad. so during the gulf war and i mean how, how we see for was our security improved here. in the united states,

by invading and destabilizing the middle east. like please explain that to me. i'd love to hear how that works, how our american troops in syria stealing syrian oil, providing security for the united states, and then shipping it to a rack. how i was sending hundreds of billions of dollars into ukraine, making people in iowa safer. please explain. i would love to hear how these drivers right now can even go further. how is it actually helping you crate george? i mean, it needs a, you know, i've done my program, you know, you know, oh well, um we, they, us should stay in a rack and i've always didn't, we help them and, you know, maybe we should stop helping these be boys. they as these a lead, say, because the more a that is being sent to, to ukraine, the longer the board, the more people dine and the smaller ukraine gets. it's, it's actually the, the, you know, the inexorable cause and effect that the more money that pulls in,

the more native they get, the more a countries destroyed. i mean, what's happened, the ukraine, i mean, is just the risk of it. but what happens the syria? i mean, it will not happen. have obama and not come up with this brilliant idea to affect regime change. you know, i thought most go before that. oh god, i don't see most go, you know, look what has happened in the, in libya look, was happened, is that or then it goes in that same wonderful year in 2011 and they said, you know, they had the sali and human most goes, although haven't got that war in yemen as me goes up to the total devastation of the country of the country. um, certainly hasn't done anything for the united states, but it's just the distorted the many, you know, obviously go back to one of the george w bush's was. and this is really the legacy of nature. and even even going beyond what was, i mean, the impact that he's had in this been your

a little the divisiveness and you know, they, they, he's syria that's over. well, many countries easier. but, you know, basically i've had quite a peaceful life. it wasn't, there wasn't any of this and they, if they complex the they, they are terrible political bits. and this will, does now emerged in a culture in bulgaria and romania molto. but all of that is, is effect the is an effect of the us and they do expansion. yeah. you know, the, george dave are really good letting me a menu of failed. a foreign policy be seen change the claim where we, where they have one minute left here, but the different, there's a big difference. this time you go to the, the u. s. is leading the collective west against a nuclear power called bruship. it's a bit different. don't you think one minute? absolutely it is. and i think you're, you're witnessing why they're continuing to push for, you know, saying well, no nuclear power, nuclear weapons that's off the table. so we're running up against this wall. okay, so then we're gonna play underneath that nuclear threshold. we're going to play our

little game in our little garden, expanding nato, and all of these additional countries. and funneling as much money as we can to the expansion of nato. and we're saying we're out of weapons now, i'll continue. we're out of weapons. so you know what? we need to ramp up on a war footing. you heard this in britain, you heard this last week in washington. we need to go to a war footing. now. what does that mean while we're at a weapon? so, so we need to expand within these parameters, more javelins, more patriot missiles, more jets, expansion expansion expansion. what happens in natal being a defensive organization? yeah. well, a at the expense of health care and the education in the border security and all of that claim. it was wonderful having you on and what i think my guess and lisbon and in budapest and one's like our viewers are watching us. here are the see next time, remember process the

the best way to publish lead is probably plenty to form some kind of coalition under the nature of the directory, intervening the complex increase in order to tear off a big piece for themselves. well, that's a pretty clear message, right? that problem, the russian president, adams that the government a p, f is sacrificing it to people to pursue its own interest in the sense of export from the brakes. the deal is going to low income countries. why i income centers get around with the problem. i sense in that there is the need. the team comes that at the west of las just out of the rush of the ending of the black sea green initiative. like you went on vacation from mos on peak, says only 3 percent of the grade funds to the agreement ever reached africa. that's

why the nfl plan having of very different goals. germany's by charles that i try to push in the to give up it's neutral stones on the credit conflict and take them to the side open western countries against russia. us during a working visits in new delhi originally meant to be promoting green energy. the your news and filled it as always so good to have you with us as we come to life from ukrainian offices are being ignored by the west and they will only get was so those are the words of the russian president to add that forces from other nations of their own interest send the conflict i took, i say it's a force gives me the police lead is probably planning to form some kind of coalition under the nature one brothers and directly into being in the complex and

ukraine in order to tear off a big a piece for themselves during the game, what they considered the historical territories west and ukraine because of fascinating and very important a speech by present to the security council of russia. a high level security group which meet to discuss issues that are very, very pertinent to the welfare if you like, of the states tend to buy security officials. so there's a high level meeting. so what president putting the said is exceptionally important . and what a centrally saying is that a given the context of this ever failing a western proxy war in ukraine, the now we see the west scrambling to find ways to continue to fuel the conflict. ever more weapons going in more and more as gets present to the 1st 2, tens of thousands of deaths and the fail counter offensive. and he also suggests that the wes weaponry that has been sending in his now for any that it is failed. and again, in that context, the west meet now needs to find a way to perpetuate the conflict. again without putting western boots on the ground

. politically in britain and united states is a very bad idea and election years, particularly in the united states for american troops to go on the ground the, the conference to come back. so what president putin is suggesting is that the next phase would be trying to deploy an older countries into the conflict. you mentioned the color that you wait here. i suppose historically parts of west and ukraine would of being a part of the polish lithuanian airport. the name ukraine itself even is defined as on the edge. so this feeds into the ever shifting sides of the ukrainian audiology, a national nationalism if you like, the parts of this country which, where at, you know, so a terrible conflict and opposed rums against poles during the 2nd world war where you kind of a nationalist killed hundreds of thousands of people, polls included. i know all you do. are you jealously bipolar describe to the chaos and you create the pull them what we've seen and tried to take usually so section yes, but do you see a lot of these reports that have appeared in the press about plastic create some so

cool. click away new crating unit. that is, we're not talking about some kind of bunch of most res boardington item that i'm typing destroyed, namely about a regular well equipped military formation, which is planned to use the one arrangement to retrieve ukraine, which i'm pretty much short on actually ensuring the security of building west lake rains that he's put in frank safety called us by the space of the subsequent occupation. all these terrible problems i guess between yet is that of course you can see that this is probably the 1st time the present proof as distinctly referred to this idea that ukraine would be weaponized as a very rooster phobic country. at the moment of the recent studies have shown that poland is the most empty russian country in your maybe in the world. you know, it may be a bit of a hangover from the soviet union present, putting, again, referring to that, but this being weaponized by the west now that you've the bottom would be handed to poland if you like to be the next source for a human folder for this, for this conflict. right? yeah, it's interesting how you put it, but you're saying basically the polish and the 2 waiting trips,

which on nathan members will go in on their own. not perhaps not with a nato backing but this trips. so what are the ukrainians in all of this? well, this is the point, this is exactly the point and it's a point that's been long made by a russian, commentators and boy present truth himself that the west isn't concerned about the welfare of ukrainians. if it was concerned about the welfare of ukrainians, that some of this at tens of billions of dollars which are being accomplished in a very cynical way, many of the country sending their so either here equipment to keep train, of course, are benefiting from newer equipment from america who sells the 5th of the americans of the cynicism here as to this feeling of the conflict. but when it comes to taking ukrainian grains or not so into the stick. so present fruit is basically saying that this is going to be the next stage of this is star. echo alliances will now be exploited by the west. and again, again, we can hear him saying that if you clean and people that will pay tens of thousands

dead in this counter offensive present boot and saying also that you find that people themselves are beginning to wise up to this to see that they're basically being used as human cannon fodder and a proxy worth additional key to the point you met today. we see that the regime in p, if is ready to do any print statements scanned and prolong it's existed in don't care about the people that a crane, the sovereignty and national interest. i think would freight both people in atlanta what just like the ideological process is that a search trade is originally been the case before and most of the ones, the gangs sell ukraine, but very, very interesting, very important from the president outlining unintelligence back then he also mentioned that his intelligence chief morag, i've also told him that they have the information that there are actual plans, actual war planning scenarios. i'd imagine whereby a polish troops that you and your troops could in intervene. you also interesting, you mentioned that a potential aggression against me against the fellowship that there could be also

attempts to agitate with the seller was a government. and he also suggested once and then later on the line very clearly that any attack on valor was to be seen as an attack on the russian federation. meanwhile, on australia and who served as a most scenario in the ukrainian foreign legion says, the situation on the front line has become devastating due to what he calls a kias combined is mishandling the battle field. yeah. that, that those latest trends in jail time for any soldier designing his post. and while delivering those comments to australia is abc and use that well, he added that his total service went unpaid. this is a matter of loss and s m, it needs to be solved pronto. i've seen things out here that you have from a military perspective of beyond unacceptable. i have never been personally pied by the legions montage on service. i have done all of this effectively for pro bono, i mean, we're quite happy decide where out,

because we will not continue to serve in a military that miss traits us or have to protect. my gosh, i will do everything in my power and i will not allow idiots like this to, to, to effect the war. but we need to, when legion come on, does disregarding the planning and just sending troops to in ukrainians. and wisdom is into these battles without the some the benefit of these, these operational plans on that. so that's a lot of people getting killed to little effect a little um, battlefield effect before it was a very, very experience people were talking some officers who being there for a long time. they're one of these guys talking about leaving this conflict that they've invested by much again, they want to see you crying. we and as we all day and then that threatened with uh, with gyle and uh, and with because they simply trying to get the get the job done. so i look into it is distressing. one has to keep in mind, is that military speaking with english, 2 different sides professionalism, there is

a coherence in terms of fact, the sense prodigy i that was, i think we thought as well and the way not always the use on the side of the ukraine. it's more like uh anything is kind of. ready funnelled into the battlefield, dash c for the cd or uh, synchronization should i say between uh the offices themselves. uh, the idea is more of a political uh conflict which bears on uh, sustaining the conflict by all means, especially in as far as the washington is concerned of g o law election. 124 divided by ivy distribution can afford to uh, have a uh that goes down to point oh on their hands. the meantime, india and pakistan who have remained neutral on the credit conflict. they aren't getting pressure from certain western partners who are trying to convince them to change the tune on ukraine. the both countries are receiving very cheap russian energy these days and they do seem to be perhaps more focused on domestic issues.

the truth bottom from rome is actually has admitted that almost all of the weight exported from ukraine under the black sea grain deal did not actually go to the african nations in need. despite that being a major stipulation. nevertheless, western powers of tried to blame russia for food and security on the african continent. 95 percent of ukrainian week is exported outside of africa. but if african countries don't receive that wheat, they will look forward elsewhere and inevitably, the global price will rise. the consequence is that it will become more difficult for africa to buy it. but the stabilisation of regions that already face difficulties is clearly a problem that also affects europe. vitale, defense minister is suddenly a global agriculture expert now, and the result is pretty much.