here i was, uh, forgive my friends, i was good both ways. mm hm. uh, regardless of what i did, so i basically said, and the you are not so totally university. you are not requiring other researchers in the uncomfortable situation. you do the same thing, in other words, that clearly we're treating the different data center. and so the eventually ended up about in, in, in the summer of the 2015. yeah. about a year and a half later. and they looked in as of saying they didn't do this damn out of been accused of any wrong doing. they basically said this guy doesn't have his protocol in place. so cancel is brent. wow. and i protested, i provided the various regulators including and as a and i age and the usda, you're not a united states department of agriculture,

which are all regulatory bodies in question, evidence of document tab bring, etc. and they all look the other way. and the most or bridges, or a couple of things where national science foundation said it, we by law, they get repeatedly and said that they contended that by law, they require not to look into whistleblower complaint. while complaints about animal welfare, which makes no sense at all, no, no sense. i of no sense at all. i have to ask you what may be a little bit of a naive question. but it seems to me that none of this would have happened. if the other research or the researcher who had given the the monkey and overdose had said, my goodness, i did something terrible. it was an accident. i overdosed the monkey and he passed away. i'll fill out the form and we inform the government. none of this would have

happened. why either, why wasn't that the case? why not just just be honest about it and say i made a mistake. right? and that's a short answer is, you know, sometimes this a, it's a, it's not the prime itself, but the cover of the prime. exactly. exactly, of course, very much. yeah. it was very much like that. they could have said that and it could have come from nothing because everybody mates, most states and, and in, in, in man research you tried to minimize most states, but sometimes the mistakes happen. and the thing is, if you really care about the animals, if you really care about the law, you make up for it and you do your darn is to make sure it doesn't happen again. that's right. none of that happened here. and i don't know why the university and i was, i didn't do the right thing but, but my best informed guess is as follows. the university was already under the

radar of animal rights activities or previous violations. and they had to take them, you know, there was a publicity, etc. so they clearly had a motive to not to encumber additional publish city. and i think that i, that's my best guess as to why they wanted the whole thing to go away. and if there was a clear pattern that i kept up to days, retaliated against me, when that they didn't set me up, they turned in an odd job and then so it basically 10 days and escalated and eventually ended up into their asking anisette for another reason. the terminated my plan. what was your longer term experience with the university or even in the broader research industry was the university's response to your whistle blowing in

keeping with the way it normally did business. and if not, why do you think they went after you in the way that they did? of the i, i think it was either they had to come clean with the pads and they'd be good if the pest pest up to something it would raise more questions. that's my best guess. mm hm. um and so they just had to basically hunker down and, and stay with their original version the other, or i'm sure they've appeared that people raised more questions. now having said that, the university of taps of the senate looked at it, they held in a hearing on the roles and everything. and they the committee that heard my case unanimously ruled in my favor. and as the university president, to take corrective actions, have it investigated by an external entities so that there is no conflict of

interest, etc. and, and the university president, it with nice place and at all temper said, i'm not going to take your recommendation. we are speaking with dr. j heck day he is a scientist and whistleblower from the university of augusta on the issue of animal research. please stay with us. we're going to take a short break and come right back. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 of the russian states, never as one of the most sense be the best english i'll send, send up the in the 65.

let's be the one else calls question about this. even though we will ben in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the rush for the day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for the question, did you say even closer to the pieces they asked as of today? because there's a lot of that censorship on many topics in schools that starts in just a migration topic. to my impression, it went on this to climate change, gone back and spent almost send them a call. you see it's, i mean, there was no,

there was no way up to date. it was either or the s. and now it's about russia and it's about, yes, we have to fight russia and russia has to be taken off the map, the welcome back to the suppliers. i'm john korea. we're speaking with animal research whistleblower doctor j had a doctor every day. thanks again for being with us. thank you. i want to ask you a few or specific questions about your case. i've read several affidavits that clearly and unequivocally show that you have told the truth from the beginning of this case. it seems to me that the university would just want to cut its losses by walking away from this. i've been in a similar situation where the aggressor made a settlement offer and then just quit. but that hasn't happened here. can you speculate as to why that is there have been,

so let me back up and say, i have an active wizard. lower case under georgia, was a broader attaches against the university and, and the board of reasons. and there been settlement todd's, but i'm not allowed to go into the details of the spent the settlement times, but i can tell you that that's a general matter my position in. i don't want the university or anybody else to tell money of me and expect me to have said because that person, the animals that i've heard is the cause of loss. so compliance with the law, etc. so i want accountability and i want this as a community, any university learn from the experience to make sure that this doesn't happen again. mm hm. and i've always, my position has been, i will not settled for anything other than that. i'm also interested to know what the reaction has been among your colleagues in any industry,

but especially in the hard sciences. success is based on truth. anything that is not based on verifiable, facts ought not be considered. but again, that's not what happened here. does the university's position on this case not do harm to its long term prospects and this area of animal research isn't the university just turning itself by continuing to fight this the, there is the rubber band and that is, in this case. um i think there is a share here, but in the part of the lot of people that they, they just want this to go link right. and why a lot of people, i mean, including government agencies, some of the government agencies like and it says in the us department of agriculture simply dropped the ball. they didn't solid, you know, but there was one agency that'd be, that'd be level 50 is picking. cars are, have jurisdiction and agency called old lot office of laboratory animal welfare of

our national institute of health. and don't get me wrong. national insurance i found is, is a very upstanding organization does great work and, and by and large, there are officials are highly principal and ethical. but all law really active and not just in my opinion, not just on as a delay, but even mentally have criminal cover up of this because they said on the one hand they said we is certified that the you're augusta university. and i did everything by the book of the did not come, did not violate the animal welfare act in any way. and when push came, so when i pressed for details, they said we don't even have jurisdiction in this case. it because it was the

monkey was not covered by the national institutes of health brand, but the national science foundation on the web. at the same time, they were telling the inspector general of put the national science foundation, that they were certifying that they looked into this. there's nothing wrong here there. there's no, nothing wrong with just move on. and there's one person that uh who was uh, who was signature is um on lot of these certifications that absent was last name, spelled w o l fs. and i have no doubt in my mind that he unknowingly engage in, in misconduct as a government official handles the university covered up and that is significant because once they've got this plan, bill is held so to speak from all the university could turn around and say look,

it's been looked at, there's nothing here in the want and that's exactly and what it ended up happening . so in other words, augusta university was able to use the overall certification of to say that it's been looked at. there's nothing does here hold on, right? one of the affidavits submitted in support of your position says that there were, quote, many other on ethical, possibly illegal occurrences related to monkey welfare and the regulatory infrastructure at augusta university on quote. can you tell us a little bit about that? would you expect federal regulators to become involved in a situation like this? i have compared to everybody including congress at the department of justice and obviously all law and etc, etc. and i think one of the things that is happening is a confirmation bias, because there are other agencies either. i think this is old meals,

or there's no problem here because they all think o own law has already looked at it and decided there's nothing to it. and therefore, we don't wanna look at it even, which is precisely the problem. because an animal research not just to us university but uh. ready in our country as a whole, worth time in our system where you have something wrong. the regulated parties, namely the universities and the researchers have the responsibility to report it properly to the government and take propose corrective actions. and right now the, the fact of the matter is, is that system is very easy to gain, which is not to say that everybody cheats most people who play by the rules. but if somebody like, in this case of what happened in this case,

if somebody wants to g cheating, it's ridiculously easy because all you need to do is say to the government. but those rates pays that. they looked at it, there's nothing here. and the government uses that the, especially the agency is like for a certified turnaround and want to write down certifying, say that there's nothing untoward happened here with think internally university can use to say look, the government gave us a clean bill of health and therefore nothing must have happened so in other words, it is kind of a like a, a look where, um at all you need to get it started and all you need to do is have the, uh, the han in. so just be the lie to the government with the straight face. and that is, it should not be acceptable in any well, it is not acceptable tomorrow to throw the searchers um and most of my of the

searchers privately and tell me my fellow researches tell me that this is not right . it should be pissed. how have investigators or regulators responded to this? this has been dragging on for 9 years now. have you gotten any satisfaction? no, not at all. the. again, not me personally. i mean, i then would tell it again. so i would like to be made a whole, but there's a larger problem here that this case is a poster child for. and that is, it demonstrates that the government agencies, such as all of the work to this feed whistle blowing, which is why wizard blowing and animal welfare is a special case where government agencies use government resources and power the actually longer. and the criminal activities and the feed

was a blog and that has a change. and so this is the larger point i want your audience to take a take from is and that is quite beyond what happened to me personally. ready the, the regulatory process in animal research is so it's not just as functional as for all the reasons that i mentioned this badly read some whereby most people are honest. but if you really want to, um, gain the system is ridiculously easy to do. so dr. j heck, j. thank you so much for joining us. and thanks to our viewers for joining us as well. i'm reminded today of the words of the great author and future as george orwell. he said, intellectual honesty is a crime in any to a tell of terry and country. but even in england, it is not exactly profitable to speak and write the truth in england. such concepts

as justice, liberty, and the objective truth are still believed in. they may be illusions, but they are very powerful illusions. that was proving lives in the 1940s. it also appears to be true about augusta georgia in 2023, john kerry, uncle, and this has been the whistle blowers. thanks for joining us until next time. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the, [000:00:00;00] the,

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injured at about noon ukrainian units launched an artillery attack on a group of journalists from these vista news agency and the re, i know of us, the news agency core preparing reports on ukraine's artillery, showing of settlements in this upper rose your region with cluster munitions. as a result of a strike with cluster munitions for journalists were wounded in varying degrees of severity. for moral this supposed to live out to our correspond the world corresponds the sweeney his repulsive form. russia's new region, steve. so to see that you're safe and while that but what can you tell us about this tragedy? well, as we've heard the news uh, breaking news around midday on such a group of june just came under attack from ukrainian on forties. now we understand that they were traveling in a call and those are for roseville region where they had been investigating the

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deepest condolences to his family and friends of the now clause to this little place that decision by the united states to supply the controversial cost of munitions on the closer scrutiny. but of course it is not the 1st time that you cried. new fault is how attract john this uh we heard a most recently the assassination attempt to the point to till the head of our team all got a to simon. yeah. and that was uncovered by the russian intelligence services last year, recalls, perhaps most notoriously due, gonna was killed in a call bomb explosion in moscow. now geneva convention protexture and the so to attack them is i will climb butts. uh, many of these many such attacks like this and the killing of wounding and targeting of gen. this has a pause without remark, without comment from many of the weld press freedom organizations, which is perhaps surprising considering the largest of those of january funded by

the us state department, us side and the national endowment for democracy. of course, well king, it was or is it dangerous occupation, but many of those are being targeted outside of the was own and that helped by the marriage for its uh website which is essentially a kill it. so you create new toners, but it is hosted in langley, virginia, which is the home of the us see i. but once again, we can see that the friday and forces are simply ignoring international law as they continue to act with impunity. so, so any that i'll see will cost one that you say safe, please. so thanks for updates with the dancing. thanks. again, the only sort of answer go ahead and it's for the, for the plate on the black sea image to ever reach the country's most in need. now, so claim most of the made of the un security council,

the same argument. moscow has repeatedly made in the past, according to you in that around the 53 percent of export and the brakes, the deal. this is going to to low income countries. why i income come through to get around 45 percent. and there is that need income states, the un security council can beamed and many countries spoke prior to russia speaking a lot of the allegations were level. and as we're reaching towards the end of the meeting after a number of security council members in spoken, we heard deputy and passengers, dimitri pull the anti, then go ahead and get bach. many of the fingers that were pointed at rush and many allegations that were made here. some of weiss that we might know was was we listened carefully to your statements and were again struck by the degree of

cynicism of the western members of the security council. i have a question for you. what did you actually expect from the very 1st days we drew everyone's attention to the fact that the initiative ceases to correspond to the originally stated goal. however, no steps have been taken to correct this trend. when we agreed to the deal and heard calls to join forces for global security, we expected an end to discrimination on the part of western states which imposed unprecedented sanctions against us. actually trying to organize a blockade against our industries. the grain deal was important, not in our interest, but in the interest of the countries of the world that are most in need. now, throughout the meeting, the allegation was repeated that blame was solely on the shoulders of russia for the great brain deals failure. now, when the russian deputy ambassadors spoke, he pointed out the rush, it was willing to restore the deal if you were able to hold as end of the bargain

in nebraska had extended the deal many times now it was important to note that shyness spoke up and showed the not the whole world seems to by end of this logic and that they do indeed understand like other forces around the world understand that this green deal is a 2 way a street rather than a one way street. here's what china had to say. and also the heat rush. so how does the repeated list agent invoice some days that it is willing to concede receiving the black sea grain any such if you have substantive progress can be made and the only men agent opposite goes to ross's export of grain and fertilizes china homes that relevant parties will act in maintaining international food security and alleviating the food crisis in developing countries. in particular, by working with relevant to you and agencies to strengthen, di, look, and consultations, amazing each other half way striving for a balance solution with the legitimate concerns of all parties to resume the exports of grain and so to allies from russia. now, polanski pointed out that much of the grain prices was manufactured to make money

grain futures, speculators are having a field day with the fluctuating prices and predicting the outcomes. and there's a lot of money to be made on this. in addition to that landscape pointed out the ukraine destroying the ammonia pipeline, that was a pretty big deal breaker. much has been made out of russia's announcement that they will consider all ships at this point to potentially be carrying military hardware. and a lot of cheap was thrown at russia for that announcement, but kia has made the exact same announcement. and this seems to be ignored by russia's detractors. and it is important to know that the ports that were set aside for humanitarian purposes under the grain deal have been used for military purposes throughout the last year. now, russian made clear before the un security council that they are willing to re open the deal ukraine can fulfill its end of the bargain. however,

that was pretty much ignored by western leaders who proceeded to point senior. ready and grandstand and blame russia for the entire situation. a lot of the asterix, but it appears not of much, not much in terms of finding mutual understanding was really achieved at the 15 member body. that leaves the united nations, the un security council meeting. this process will look for this to the collapse black, see great initiative in order to help but live in need. that is the same. the russian deputy forum is it says, a re quote. he spoke to you about most of the reasons for play out of the deal in the 1st place along with other issues. is the chaise of us and other western countries and making mistakes often mistake in general. they pop in recent . yes, is a positive mistakes and suffering, suffering, not actually own masses of international affairs, but in the inability to combine their ambitions,