or, or would fire one of their basically their top show are so that was really interesting to me. but then i figured it must have something to do with something that he's been discussing on that show. more of the anti war or rhetoric he's had voices come on like armada and jimmy door that are anti war. and i wondered if that was the reason why they decided to remove tucker cross. and so i really felt like it was the content that he probably discussed that they felt was a little too far for, for their audience. you know, i've been reading a lot and i mentioned those moments ago is i was setting this conversation between me and you up that a lot of people don't understand. the campbell news does not make it's money. offer ratings. people that, oh my god, why would they do that? he has a, has, they don't care about ratings. they don't care about ratings. they make their money off subscriptions. it's a business. they're guaranteed, 800000 subscriber. pardon me? a 100000000 subscribers a year between directv and comcast, etc,

etc. so what do they have? one guy doing, uh, you know, uh, 3 dot 3000000 viewers or another guy doing 2500000 viewers. it's kind of all the same to them, to business. it's not a, it's not an editorial news model like it used to be. that's right, and i can imagine they'll probably be more changes over there or fox. i mean, we saw seeing and go through a re shuffle of sorts. they have a new manager that came in and decided to change the content on cnn and say that they're not just gonna focus on the liberal audience. they're also going to focus on the conservative audience as well. and we saw that with that trump town hall. so i think there are ships happening and mainstream media, i think part of that has to do with the fact that since joe biden, one of the presidential election of viewers have dropped off off from mainstream media. trump did give them a lot of a lot of ratings and a lot of support. so i think that they're trying to move the ball in different places to see what can bring more viewers back. but i think the reason my viewers

are leaving, but by the way, let me just stop you with the trump. the truck was a circus. so everybody wanted to go and watch the start because they wanted to be in the big top. they wanted to buy tickets to watch a circus, and that's essentially what, what trump represents. and if that's why ratings were up, that's why ratings were, were rob, i, i, i don't think it's necessarily that the business is changing. based on the guy who's in office. i don't think there's any difference between trump and obama and bite in or any other president of the united states because the policies are essentially the same. and the business interests which have clenched fists with those policies. and the government are the ones that are really mandating what we watch or what we get on these cable channels. i think i, i leave it to you. you say what? i think more people are starting to seek out independent media. i think they're tired of hearing the same narrative that you get from the state department. and i think that they are starting to question things more and we can point to the pan demik. that's something that more americans to started to question us since the

information has changed from a cdc. so this information like that, and then also this war with russian ukraine. war americans are starting to question, should we really send billions of dollars to ukraine over the past, like year and a half the washer and the why should they? they didn't question a rock. they didn't question of get a stand. they didn't question. yeah. man. they didn't question libya, they didn't question syria. why wouldn't make americans all of a sudden wake up and oh, wait a minute. my government is spending between 50 and a $100000000000.00 a year and some places i, i can't even find on a map. why would they change the economy? a lot of people are still struggling right now. the gas prices, depending on what state you live in, the gas prices are still high for some of us. then there's the price is that the grocery store food is still expensive. this inflation that we're dealing with. so people are saying that more so people who are not left this have said this to me as well. they're saying now that like wait a minute, i'm paying what?

$8.00 for a carton of eggs. and the bind administration has continued to send billions of dollars to another country. so i think more people are starting to make that connection. i think that's the difference when you compare it to our rack. you know, it's interesting what you just said about left. i don't even know what the hell is the less than what the hell is the right anymore, because it seems like they've just somehow merged and found this place in the middle. in fact, you could make the argument that if the democratic party represents the left, which it certainly represents a lot more than the republican party represents the left that it's the left today in america that is promoting and supporting these raising expensive, endless wars. like what we're now seeing, developing a new credit. well, i wanna, i wanna clear something here because a lot of people say that the democratic party is left, the democratic party is not left, or those are liberals. they still lean center, right? so i just want to make the distinction there, left,

this are people who consider themselves to be progressive. people who are left of the democratic party, people like myself, we're the ones. yeah. now listen i, i get that is a way to i a hold on. i, i get that and god love you for saying that, and i think you're making an important point that there's a true distinction between, you know, the institutional formalized that the establishment, which is maybe the best word democratic party and left us. but my point is you certainly couldn't say republicans are left his can, you know, you to not. yeah. so if you have to go down to specter between who's closer to the left that across are closer to the left. so i agree with what you say by the way, that they're not necessarily representing a left point of view, which i think is what you're saying. right? right. i mean, they're calling for censorship now. like this is ridiculous. you have people who are politicians, who i thought were suppose to be progressive, like amc calling for censorship. calling for the silence of voices that she

disagrees with. are people who tend to criticize her. this is a problem. any time that you have, people like margery taylor green is calling for anti censorship and just calling to stops in, in the money to ukraine. that's supposed to be the perspective that comes from the left. yes, i think it happens when we come back. i want to ask you a little bit about the, the specific things that uh, that tucker has said and done in recent weeks prior to his, uh, being well, he supposedly resigned. but as we all know, he was fired. he was let go and that's the truth. of it you stay right there sabrina, i look forward to talking to you on the other side of the break. by the way, i should tell you, i have a pod cast where i as a journalist as a latino and as an entrepreneur or tell my story and share it with you. i also talk about what we learned about the stories that we talked about on this show. it's called rick sanchez podcast. i invite you to check it out when we come back more on

the firing of tucker cross and then what uh, what really meets stay with the of the pieces the youngest as of today because there's a lot of that censorship on many topics in schools that start to just the migration topic, to my impression, it went on this to comment change gone back, it went almost send them a call. you see it's, i mean there was no, there was no way up to date. it was either or the s. and now it's about russia and it's about, yes, we have to fight russia and russia has to be taken off the map the

say, welcome back. i'm gonna sanchez, you know, there's something else that's been happening of late regarding what we know in the firing of talk across and remember question was, fox is most, when you know, in most highly rated and most companies breaking host, for example, we have the compunction if not the temerity to question our country's foreign policy. something these days seems for been an american establishment. media outlets. it is perhaps for that very reason that fox is getting a lot of heat now for firing cross and went back once again talking to uh sabrina sell body. she hosts savvy sobs, that's her podcast, and it's a darned good one. and she has a very unique way of looking at the, the politics of our time, which obviously today is very much in and mixed with the news. and the editorial

decisions of our time non bigger, more recently than what happened to tucker carlson where he was just off a sudden the old one morning. hey, don't come to work. you're fired. it was a complete shock to him. he was totally surprised. i know tucker, as you know, tuckers had me out of show many times and he, and i've talked a lot over the years, i would consider him most a friend because you know, in this business, i don't know how close you have you. we are having those, but he did, he did get by, you're in this whole dominion lawsuit and he did something which was quite interesting. he was actually uh heard, or i guess written on tags where he said about donald trump. i hate him. i hate him passionately. and ask for the argument that donald trump had lost the election. he called, he said it was essentially a joke. and that, you know, he was embarrassed having to put that story on the air because he didn't think

there was an a trip to it. yet. he was going on the air and that saying those things essentially promoting donald trump and promoting the, the story about the election being fraudulent. so that didn't come to his credibility. did it not as i would say. so i think a big part of the problem is, you know, in network network news, you have to do what the producers want you to do, or you lose your seat and they'll replace you with someone else, you know, but i couldn't imagine going on air almost every other night promoting a donald trump promoting something that i really despise. so i would say that tucker was a good actor in reference to that, but i think that this is something what, what does that say? but what does that say? what, what does that say? and you know, okay, tucker was doing that because for some reason he figured the read calculation was not to go on the are in criticized strong, so he defended trump on the air. the privately, he would tell his friends,

donald trump's at 80 uh and on the air he defended the election square foot whole. but privately he said this is bullcrap and he did that. do you think they all do that? is i wouldn't. i wouldn't be surprised. i really wouldn't, i wouldn't be surprised if there's commentators or cnn or m as in b. c. that are not too keen on joe biden, but they have to read the script that they're given. they have to come on there and do their job. that's the thing is like they're trying to sell an image. they're trying to sell a certain types of politics. they're trying to support the state department on narrative and that really is their job. i just wish more americans realize that. do you think about it? here's where the rubber meets the road. it's not so much what the, the editorial lists or the bosses and cnn are on a 70 c or fox, or anywhere what they say, right? is that your executive producer, it's the people who are set on board rooms,

who want to make sure that the entity stays whole. so why would i do a story on, for example, the fact that politicians have to take bribes legal bribes so that they can have campaign funds so that they can then run for office when those campaign funds are then fed into cnn, and fox and tv to do commercials. so if i was to go on there and tell the truth, which is almost every politician in the united states is taking a legal bride. and politicians are being paid off every day by john corporations. right. but because that money goes back to cnn and back to fox and back them as nbc in the form of advertising, they're not going to talk about it. and they're not going criticize it. that's just one example that we saw it sort of businesses determining the editorial slab of the news. unfortunately, this is how it works and that's why people have to look at who owns these companies,

where the shareholders that are invested in these networks. you really have to trace it back and see if you look at a company like black rock or via gartner states state street. yeah. they're shareholders in the media space. and this is really important for people to understand. so the people that you see on the screen, they are merely just a pop it like they don't really have get the opportunity to say their real opinion . you know, this is why they were so critical against someone like bernie sanders because to bring him on the network and to hear him say, the billionaires all the problem. well, that doesn't sit well with the people who are on the board of the network. you know, so of course they're going to some your, someone like it, you know, it's interesting in the case of tucker, once again, he really played it. he played both sides against the middle because he knew foxes audience is very old and white and male. right? so the great for ponder and of foxes audience probably between 80 and 90 percent are white. a man's,

um certainly white. uh and the males pretty high as well. right. so he knew that he had to play a certain argument for them. and that's why tucker, when it came to the traditional arguments from the right, which i'm sorry, tends to be a little on the anti immigrant side. pardon me, i'm an immigrant, but you're not gonna hear fox news advocating for the rights of latinos in the united states. or african americans for that matter, not a friendly pace, better find the place for that audience. tucker knew how to continue that rhetoric so to speak. but he gave a more. he didn't just and there he didn't just do you know what a riley and how did he do, which is just play down the middle to the republican talking points. he stayed on some republicans having boards, but then took them out of the conduct reports like you said, with the situation in the ukraine which, which was a tomato strategy. i've never seen anybody else do that on any network,

which is i'll give you some of what i think you want, right? i'll give you your, your, your, your, uh, your dessert for lack of a better word or description. but you know what, here's your spinach and you're going to learn this. and by doing that he actually was leading the conservative cause toward trying to straighten out our foreign policy greeting debacle. that it is no. yeah, i would say so i think, you know, he's trying to show again he was trying to give them what they want, but at the same time kind of slowly walk them to where they should be headed. and i think that's not easy to do. i don't think a lot of commentators do that. they usually tend to be one sided, one way or the other. but i said this when when tucker was, was fired. i said, talk across and can start a youtube channel tomorrow and probably already have a 1000000 subscribers. a lot of people like to listen to them and not just conservative their democrats. they used to watch like talk across and show. so i

think people have to understand whatever he was doing. it was engaging in a way that people wanted to turn in and watch him. do you think? what do you think killed the? i mean, 1st of all, we should know. he doesn't need to do anything because he's a swanson air and that means he is, you know, rich beyond anyone's wildest imaginations. and if he didn't want to work another day in his life, he didn't have to. however, i do believe like most of us, but he has an ego that needs to be fulfilled and he wants to be famous and he wants to be on the tv. and he will be well, according to the law mosque, he's supposed to do a show on twitter. yeah, so this should be interesting. i'm not sure how that would work out, but i think people will tune into twitter to see like tucker, because a lot of people like him is going to be different. i think this is a whole shift in the platform. apparently they're gonna allow people to subscribe to the show as well. so we'll see what happens and maybe more people may go that way. 100000000 people,

a 100000000 people watched tuckers blurb on twitter announcing that he was going to be creating a show on that. the format 100000000. think about that. do, do, do you know, tuckers, everybody gets excited about ratings, but cable news readings are actually pretty small. tucker, on a good day, had 3000000 people watching. and in terms of the demo, or what we call the $25.00 to $54.00 audience, which is the audience that matters. so audience was relatively tiny compared to the population of the united states, maybe 500000, not a good day, maybe, maybe 6, maybe 4. who knows? i mean, that's basically what the numbers were in a country of 350000000 people. it's not a huge, not now a 100000000. that's a big not. what does that say? yeah, more people have gone away from cable to be honest with you like the a lot of people i know don't have cable subscription,

haven't had one in years. their streaming services, so more people have like, especially my generation netflix, hulu, but everybody, for the most part, my generation is on twitter. so twitter, again like the social media sites. youtube is another one that a lot of people are more willing to watch than cable. so i think again, i think the days of just like cable news either they're going to have to do something drastically different to engage a new audience, particularly, or younger audience or they're just going to fade away. sabrina, somebody. uh my, uh my thanks to you, the host of, uh, savvy sab, you can catch your podcast on uh, the revolutionary blackout network. and uh, and she's out there and we think are for us taking some time to, to have this lively conversation with us today about the tucker carlson firing or lack of a better term or maybe using the most correct term. thanks again. sabrina. thank you. hey, before we go,

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the police 4 people are dead with 9 others in hospital with severe burns, the office folding with a gushes from up to us. time for the shopping center. a version will correspond to induce, killed by ukrainian, a cluster bombs with most of the st. the kids on the west and on suppliers. the full responsibilities will be a time also this out fine. go on the street saw the wrong with the people protest against swedish officials. boy getting a co wrong funding event. the plus, the g 20 energy ministers failed to reach a consensus on an official communicate upstate full outside of the ukraine conflict

as well as to feel the it's tough to midnight. here we're in most go in, this is all the international with the very late as well news on the day. it is great to have you with us. now we begin with a tragic news. hey, we're in most go where full people have been confirmed that and schools injured. that is a cause when a pipe bust at the seasons shopping center south west of the city on the stone. of course it brings us more from the c. a, according to emergency services, specifically the firefighters. the situation is now under control after a hot water pipe burst in the small scale mall, which you can see behind me sending hot steam throughout the building according to moscow's may or 4 people were killed. and there, this is also being investigated, has a case of criminal negligence. now that's according to russia's investigative committee . now media reports,

i've also been saying that dozens of people have been injured around 10 of them have been hospitalized and emergency services had been working on the scene here for a long time. now there wasn't evacuation going on for some time, and we were even able to speak with a couple people who were evacuated from the building. let's take a listen. move easily conclude the steps. i saw people looking alarmed on the 3rd floor where i work. i saw people looking down towards the escalators, we saw our steam rising and so smell of hot water. i went down to the 1st floor, all the water was on the 1st floor. then i went upstairs and we stood for 15 to 20 minutes. and there was no announcement, no one said anything. people went to the shops and only after 15 to 20 minutes, the guard told us that it was time to go out, close everything and leave quickly. i was very worried and didn't understand why we weren't being evacuated earlier when the burst had just taken place. media reports were saying that around 20 people were trapped inside the building, mostly on the 3rd floor and in the food court area. but we recently attended

a press conference held by the emergency services. they said that the evacuation has been completed and nobody's left inside the building. and right now, the authorities are working in sides to get to the bottom of what caused this pipe burst into the front line. in a rush is example, is a region now where will correspondent roast is live. a short offload has been killed by you crazy and selling. it also left several of his colleagues wounded. moscow has blamed kias on this. western sponsor is full of the as far as the sea. everything points to the fact that the attack on the journalist group was not a coincidence. the correspondence collected materials for a report on the shelling of the sap rosure regions settlements by key for she militants with cluster munitions which are banned in many countries of the world. those that are supplied to keep by the united states, washington along with london in paris, which supply does the landscape regime with long range missiles,

only verbally express concerned about the safety of journalist. but in fact, they are sponsors of terrorists. those guilty of the brutal massacre of a russian journalist will in evidently suffer the punishment they deserve. the entire measure of responsibility will be shared by those who supply their key pro, chase, this cluster munitions around midday. on such a group of just came under attack from ukrainian on forties. now we understand that they were traveling in a call and those that for roseville region where they had been investigating the ukrainian use of custom emissions because these controversial weapons are being supplied by the united states. now, the russian defense ministry has confirmed that those 2 and this came on to find themselves from the very cluster munitions that they were investigated to know a number of goodness have been wounded. they were rushed to hospital and very sadly, as we had well just love, a jewel of

a real no boss me will. correspondence was killed in the attack on the number of others that have been wounded to varying degrees on the head of his upper rose. your region has pay tribute to the wall correspondence. this young talented guy spoke the truth from the very 1st day. he covered real life and this brushy region was on the front line more than once present the new men and military men and did not stand the side of civilians needed help. today he died at the hands of king of nonsense. i express my deepest condolences to his family and friends. cool, so this whole place thought decision by the united states to supply the home traversal foster munitions on the closer scrutiny. but of course, it is not the 1st time that you create new policies have attacked. john this uh we heard uh most recently the assassination attempt to the parts to til the head of our team all got a to so many on that was on covered by the russian intelligent services. last year cools, perhaps most notoriously duke and i was killed in

a call bomb explosion in moscow. now geneva convention protexture and the so to attack them is i will climb butts. uh, many of these many such attacks like this and the killing of wounding and targeting of june. this has a paused without remark without comment from many of the weld press freedom organizations, which is perhaps on surprising considering the largest of those are generally funded by the us state department, us side on the national endowment for democracy. of course. well, king, it was a, is it dangerous occupation? but many of those are being targeted outside of the was own and that helped by the marriage for its uh website which is essentially a kill it. so you create a new tool is what it is hosted in, langley, virginia, which is the home of the a, c i. but once again, we can see that the training and forces are simply ignoring international law as

they continue to act with impunity. i believe we spoke to joining list and found all the don't boss. and so i the chris downtown and she says the journalist sit on tips, talk at least 5 and 9 years now. so the, since the beginning of the constraint that the generalist are a special targets for you, then you create an army. we have to remember that in 2014, many generally swear cubes by deliberate shillings on their position or of the calls in which they were moving. so unfortunately, for me, it's not to surprise what happens and i'm really sad because i knew what else to solve. i meant team last year at the beginning of the special operation, we see that the weight problems which are provided to ukraine by the west are more and more, uh, really terrible. i mean, even begun with the lights with friends, and now we have cluster immunizations and what is going to be next? it's really to remote. we know that this close to our munitions are really horrible

. i mean, they are killing a lot of civilians. they are staying in the ground for a long period. we have seen that in vietnam where it's to keeping and routine 18 people until now. and gary and prime it is to say is europe lives in a illusionary? well, believing that rush i can because house of the international market, i think the open on the opposite of a 70 percent of you are appearing. companies are still authorizing in russia. of course, europe can be separated from russian energy, but this is actually an illusion. and will have no effect, because russia cannot be separated from the rest of the world. someone else will buy russian oil materials and we're suffering from mil to inflation. and losing our competitiveness. they hung gary and head of state statements on the impacts of sanctions on russia is being proven true already. a gas agreement has been raised between russian gas problem and his back is down, which will create a new energy supply system. we spoke with george samuel,

a senior research fellow with the global policy institute. you said that your penn state's a, losing the leading economic positions due to these policies. or, of course, um, your needs, uh, russian energy. it has been the key to its uh, he cannot make success particularly they economic success of the german age. so it's reading economy and essentially to cut yourself off from russian energy means you have to get your energy somewhere. oh, well that's somewhere else is of course much more expensive. and if you remember a few months ago when emmanuel, my college said, yeah, what if we get around liquefied natural gas from the united states? it's actually going to cost us both times as much as a, well, we were getting from russia. so the euro is essentially becoming gradually irrelevant to the rest of the world. and i think in that same speech, you said that within a few years, um, now the,

the european economies will be in the top 10 of the world economy. as a says in germany alone may come in as number 10, but trans easily the u. k. which is simply be, you know, out, you know, they've just moved will begin significant in the, in the world rankings. and wasting countries and making mistakes often mistaken their approach to what was most go that's according to russian deputy for i'm going to say ralph called he spoke to volunteer about most goes readings with pulling us with the grading that along with other issues is the shades of the us and other western countries and making a mistake of the mistake in general, they pop in recent years is a positive mistakes and sufferings, suffering not actually on masses of international affairs, but in the inability to combine their ambitions to the arrogant expectation that everyone around the.