it is it that they have good spies, exceptional spies in moscow that gives them the confidence that could be a part of the, you know, my phrase for the current crew is lincoln blinking not nudge. and that's why i said that on this program to you in touch me, i just, i just don't give them a lot of brain power credit. um and the people who are pushing them to be behind them actually making the decisions or, or seeing the influence and make some decisions. i'll give them a lot of credit for thinking about our future and our posterity either. you know, our country now is one by the point 001 percent, who own about the g, d p, equivalent of brazil in their personal family fortunes. these are the people who make the decisions. i want alarms me about them and i've had a long discussion with a number of people who agree with me and don't agree with me that this is a very, very mysterious factor. that is to say, they don't give

a damn about the future. they just care about their shareholder prices, their stock prices, they care about making more billions on top of the billions they already have. and they don't seem to have any regard whatsoever for even their own boss dirty. that's an extremely dangerous situation when you get people like that, influence in those who are in power and those in power are not all that competent and they don't have any concerns of the future. it's a mystery to us. we can explain it. we do not understand why these people do not have any interest, even in their own future, in the future of their grandchildren in the future, their children. they have no interest in the future. they only have interest in the present and in money. okay, any day i'll give you don't care about the environment if uh they destroyed the nord stream. i understand that you agree with the site share that it was the by the administration that destroyed it. why do you think the by the ministration was so confident, there be no retaliation,

rushes at all. they will be consequences for that destruction in the pipeline that we spend millions of dollars of german and, and russian money. but there hasn't really been a reaction to it. i think there'll be a long term consequence. and i think people think strategically, and i'm not quite sure that let me or does, but i think he does, or at least he has some people around him to do. if he thinks strategically, the germans aren't going to tolerate this much longer. if you're talking about the heart of nato in europe, you're talking about germany, germany, germany, germany. and if you eliminate germany, if, if germany suddenly decides they are not best or by fuel that comes in, that is far more content 0 than the fuel that we're getting from russia far more expensive. but this is not really what they want for a future. and we're also bending, they're both arms behind their back trying to break them away from china, which is nonsense. i mean, break germany away from china. the engine of the european economy away from the

engine of the world economy. you gotta be kidding me. and yet that's what we're trying to do. this whole business with ukraine, if you find the root cause of the belief of the bad and the crew is to reestablish us in germany which was slipping over europe. they'll figure that out sooner or later, especially the germans. and then it's katie bar of the door. we're going to be in trouble because the alliance is going to shatter and the trans atlantic relationship with a kind of larry wilkinson. i'll stop you there more from the former chief of staff to us secretary of state colin powell after this break the the

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy from foundation. let us in arms race is on all sides. very dramatic. i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very unclear to get a time time to sit down and talk the welcome back to going undergrad. i'm still here with their time kind of mary wilkerson, the cheapest off to us extra state calling about to thank you so much for what you

were saying in part one, it was fascinated to hear that not only do you agree with the fact that north, the stream was a by no administration operation because we've had the on the secretaries of the navy on the show and it must go station. they never said that the north stream was a bite and administration to or an attack, but you're talking about nato and it's problems. i mean, was the only, as someone could be one of the last summits we see of its kind it might not be last . we are great at war longer anyway. you seem to be the most adept country in the world at it as a matter of fact, which justifies the fact we're supposed to be in democracy and care about things like human rights and such. but in bushes administration, george w bush, i figure that out by 2004, it really is done me. it took a while, we didn't give a damn about any of those things. so we use those things as sugar coding. we use those things for both international audiences and our own domestic audience as

sugar coding. we don't care about freedom, we don't care about democracy. what we care about is power and money, money and power that sums up america today. and that sums up what our war instrument is for, including nuclear weapons. it's a sad commentary, and yet it is a true commentary. and i'll argue with anyone that was argue about it till the cows come home. that's our purpose today. more is a profitable business and we are in profits. that's why we're selling weapons. that's why we're doing what we're doing and you crying. and anyone who tries to sign any other reason to it is just simply much that's what's happening. and the same thing about it is we have now, drugs are essentially $700000000.00 plus europeans into it who will figure it out sooner or later. and then we're going to have a breach. and let's see the world divided into the european union, trying to get his political life together. china, in the united states, in the,

you know, trying to figure which one to go to in any pivot point and make a quarter of the world's population of people. and that's going to be a multiple world par extra long, and we're going to be stuck in the rear end of that world about 90 percent of the time. if we don't stop and get our act together, not to mention is that the climate change is gonna eat our lunch is already eating our lunch. i've just come back from out west. if you wanna walk down the street because there's nothing but smoke all the time, asked new york or from the smoke coming down from canada, asked people who are looking at water situations that are simply existential for them. and fighting with other states out west trying to figure out who's going to get the water that's left. this is a crisis that if we know confront right now this minute and do it intelligently and

competently forget it. well really well if, if vitamin was responsible for new and stream, clearly climate change is something the policy, if it's coming is to increase. but in fairness to u. s. media and obviously in the west and your immediate was officially well media descent on ukraine is, is bad. there's, there's actually official censorship in front of us to you asked me do you i don't normally say that, you know, we've had down ellsberg gone. he died recently, literally he heard him say that and you are trying to extradite julian designs right now from london. us major is beginning to call it a proxy war, the ukraine. more. do you notice that sometimes that somehow the united states circle mainstream corporate media is starting to latch onto the arguments you've been making since february and since 2014 they have to be a to says a granite rock not to and they have to begin to understand that, well,

we keep up on this thing more longer and we're going to lose what little readership we have left. because the american people don't figure out sooner or later too. if you're looking at a situation where the united states is going to be sending, spending is already spending. if we talk about national security rather than the armed forces, a trillion dollars a year, you're looking at a $30.00 to $33.00 trillion dollar aggregate debt. the interest payments of which will consume, plus the defense budget, all of the discretionary federal spending about 2030, maybe earlier. that's the congressional budget office prediction. you can keep doing that. you simply can't keep doing it. why are we able to do it now, we're able to do it now because the oil is denominated, preferably in dollars. and because we have a military that will smash anybody or sanction anybody, or most who objects that cannot persist, is simply cannot continue. and we're bankrupt for all practical purposes. if we

have to pay our debt tomorrow, the interest payments on that debt alone are going to bankrupt us. but as you have to pay the debt in aggregate, sorry, you're not going to do that. and people don't quit by our debt around the world, and that's going to be dramatic, is coming and it's all coming at a time when much or what we do have in terms of resources that are viable, should be aimed at meeting the climate crisis. well, something some say it's speeding up, but clearly, you know, way it is still the federal. uh it is still the world currency. so we won't have to wait just a little bit, but then so all the cost of bombs. and as a military man, you probably know more about cluster bombs and then i do, i mean is lost through the dice. the cluster bombs being sent to boy is damage and kill and maim, future generations of children and your grand, utterly obscene. just like using the clean did you ring uranium rounds and in and around baghdad, we've got

a cash right there around felicia and elsewhere. now interact it out, strips any cancer, right? including children and i just did drop the bridge governments as depleted. uranium is completely safe. right? uh huh. and i've, i've got some swampland in florida. i'll sell the british government. this is stupid to do this sort of thing. they should have been out loud long time ago. i thought they were gonna be out lot alone with land mines and other things to look into. why am i am bullet for ocean? okay, we're gonna be cleaning up that area of the world for the next 20 years. just like we're doing in vietnam, we're still cleaning up vietnam from them. land mines and other munitions that are in the law for 12 and 13 year olds, lose arms, hands and legs almost weekly in vietnam. still, we've got a little bit of head way going on right now, but that's, that's the detritus of the empire's wars. that's the detritus of america's war and all of this so that lockheed martin and raytheon and groman and a host of other defense companies can make built the loop or all these weapons as

to what is the last throw the dice. or, i don't know, you're in virginia and maybe your neighbors know, is it, or is it part of the escalation? once they said only helmets to the green war, then it was, you know, vis or that missile that it was patriots that it was tanks. and now it's f sixteens that is the cost of them the last in that line or does it go further? and i hope it doesn't go any further. i hope it doesn't even go that far. i live, oddly enough or obviously enough i live amongst some of the type needs, general dynamics lockey. this is one of the richest, if not be riches counties in america. and it is so largely because of the lawyers for and the ceo's and c o is the weapons and or should bring your neighbors in for the next time we do the interviews. yeah. i'd love to have coffee with them some day, but they don't offer you the likes with me now. i'm just driving around this area. well,

tell you what's happening. just driving around. american look at looking at military bases. will tell you what's happening. cosmo haul's, i've never seen so much money spent on the military. they don't know where to spend it. they haven't got a clue how to spend all this money. so they weren't over at the end of each fiscal year with billions left over that they haven't spent, this is the same, but we're doing it because we're increasing the profits astronomically these people who run these merchants of death companies. i mean, do the neighbors have ukraine flag so they've, they've subsided in western capitalism in your a, but people say there's a lot of money in the letter in the hamptons, but in that virginia maryland area, since the ukraine. they're not too many flags out. now they're worse, i'm in the beginning, i think the american people basically are waking up to the fact that something's wrong here. and that this war's gone on too long. at the same time though, you have profits generated and no blood,

that's the best of all possible world for the ceo issues. and these people who run these arms companies, they are not killing any americans. and yet they're making a fortune off the weapons that are sold into this conflict. and that's the best of all possible years for the you sit down at a, at a shareholder meeting. you say ladies in german, ladies and gentlemen, businesses good wars, good. we're making pro off, is that the? yeah, and you're getting your share price, you're getting what you want, you're getting your dividends and services is great until it ends. and it ends badly. if we put china to one side, the next war that's openly being talked about with trump and the war in ukraine. that's a good question. he would say you would. but like all the other words, he said he was going to an adult. he would do it, he didn't initiate any. you know, the republican party is buried in this oligarchy that i spoke of. so is the

democratic party, whether it's chuck schumer or standing, or whomever. obviously our f. k junior is also running, but opposed to the war. the republican party from mitch mcconnell on there, they're buried in this complex. they get re elected because of this complex and the money provided them by this complex. so he could do certainly more than any main democratic contender. i just don't, i don't see my main problem with the trunk beside so many others that you would know it is he's not as smart as he says he is. and he doesn't understand how the government works and he doesn't understand that draining a small means you have to go in, grab the alligators by the neck and show them to the easiest he's, he's afraid to do. the people are hard and people are afraid of doing that kind of thing. i think a young has a lot of tell us about it. we've had examples of what happens when you speak on

draining the swamp. maybe your, what we're going to see examples of what happens to people, i don't know, just find the own west in your, of, i mean is a, as i said, germany was in recession of is that the region of the planet just going to decline the geopolitically economically, culturally, i don't think so. you've got, you know, roughly 700000000 with the g d p. that's equivalent of ours. $20.00 to $23.00 trillion dollars. that's all going to get. the grain of course, is not going to get the grain from the blacks. the grain, the rich countries of europe. yeah, well, factor out the 140000000 russians and you have a significant schism there. that's kind of caused a problem at least those from the urals to the west. they ought to be a part of this. your opinion too, but if it ever gets his political life together and i know that's like huge, you know, um, they probably will be the power to reckon with in the future now. that is from 2 to aspects of their future. i think one,

they probably have the best handle on the climate crisis of any other region in the world and to they have that economic potential. if they could bring the russians back in. europe could be whole and politically sound. and that's a big if i know, i think they'd be the power point in the world and maybe they can lead the rest of the world in the confrontation of the climate process. or is it going to happen? is this war going to asunder that possibility for at least a decade or so? it well could, and that's a tragedy. and there again, the blame will be laid at the seat of washington to london, burly in all the capitals. i'd simply couldn't get their act together and stop this war. shopping is more would be really simple if you just sat down and thought about it, and you didn't, but the old guard, so the war industry route your day. all you have to do is start talking kind of larry wilkinson. thank they're really, that's over the show will be back on monday with the full. i'm a director of

a can you angie corruption commission, professor i p alone? remember ahead of next week's rush, your advocate summit, but until then you can keep in touch while i social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and head to a general going on are going to be on rumble. don't com to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday, the the pieces, the youngest as of today because there's a lot of that censorship on many topics in schools that start to just the migration topic, to my impression it went on with the climate change call me back, it's fine to understand them a call. you see it's, i mean, there was no, there was no way of debate. it was idle, but never spent. and now it's about russia and it's about, yes, we have to fight russia and pressure has to be taken off the map.

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