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the, the the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome across stock were all things are considered on people about what is the ukraine conflict? really all about we're told is about democracy. others say it's about the rules based ordered whatever that means. in fact, there is nothing noble about this conflict. it's just another huge gripped those in power. want to keep it that way. the
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a discuss this and more, i'm joined by my guess. martin j america sees an award winning journalist, and commentator. and in budapest we cross the jordan, samuel, we, he is a pod cast, read the goggle, which can be found on youtube span locals. i started out with george. as i said in the introduction, georgia, i've always believed. and you know, i've talked about this a great length of this is just another huge graft on the heels of afghanistan. and we all know the phrase, whatever it takes. well, i think that we're missing the 2nd half, whatever it takes for me to make a lot of money. because i think that's the full sentence of this propaganda effort to keep the company going. it's, it's, it's no coincidence. you know, we run out of ammo all we have to buy and make new m. oh okay, new contract going out for you. and in the meantime, we don't really want to do it bucks, cluster munitions, which basically they want to get rid of it. so they can buy the next generation of
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munitions. i mean, it seems to work for everybody. does it go ahead drawers? well, it's absolutely right, and it's an aspect of this work that has a big get got received. they've been very little attention. you know, if we go back to uh, 2014 and the bite and the family and the people around the bite and family, there was a reason why they bass and onto the ukraine. they saw this as easy money. i mean, we know the buying me with no background to all in the energy industry. got himself a very nice gig with boy isn't up. now, we're also learning now increasing the from the disclosures in the republican laugh house that they were the honda biden. and his father, and i think other members of the family will also receive substantial amounts of money from ukraine, a specifically from various left. so here we have this,
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the risk next us of the bite in the family and, and ukraine it. and then of course, this war is extremely profitable, or you may even talk about these weapon systems. and i don't believe areas, belligerent states and eastern europe. you know, they giving away the weapon rate. and they know that this is what we're going to be replaced and the guns were replaced by the americans. so some people are, if it was making an enormous amount of money, they will only, honest contractors of the, to the, of a sudden all the people, i'm not making money in what we were seeing in the europe with us as a european industry is being essentially wiped off the face of the up by the united states. they are doing well. this is something that was highlighted by victor or by this this weekend. and so it's a nice, it's a grief for some, but it also means the, you know, just being wiped out of the existence for others in my way,
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i forgot another important party and all of this, the black market to okay, where are these weapons can be found all over the world. now we've had many, many reports about also unconfirmed when i say this again, on confirmed reports that they administer of defense, ukraine's minister defense daughter bought a $7000000.00 house in france. i'm confirmed. i've only seen a report i've seen. i haven't seen cooperated. i wouldn't be surprised. people have come across numerous other reward. so the, the, the european real estate industry as seems to have uh, a favorite buyer right now they come from ukraine or. yeah, i'm a loved people could be forgiven for missing that story because mainstream media did not sees it. it was very much of a friend story of minnesota spending $7000000.00 on a nice little pad in south across you know, the nice money if you can outage, but i, i've been buying on myself in my own columns for least 9 months about this idea of
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being result from ukraine and i think this is story which when the much, the very day the war stops, you know, i think as, as a huge business. but i think also lots of this, the industrial industry complex. i mean, washington is a, is a strong above made up of industrial complex and big pharma. and as long as those industries are being fed, usually the old machine works very nicely. but we have those in power. but aside from that, i've also been saying for a long time, the nice thing there is something else about the brain and the button family. and i say good. george touched on the point of energy funds, pay a button family on to buy it. and i think there's a lot, lot more there to we haven't touched it on, i think is a little corruption or look mcgraw of the button family you know, trying to cover up. i know it is probably the main reason. the main reason for actually going to one, the 1st place is that you cover up the problem with all these corrupt deals. you know the problem with this one that you correct yourself, and i really do believe the job bought in for a very,
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very long time. has been building up is revenues by looking for such low hanging fruit around the world. you credit is perfect for that. you know, you just as a vice president, you just have meetings with people and as part of the culture that just to leave a suitcase of cash in your hotel room when you return after a nice, nice meal. you know, he's, he's been preparing for this for very long time. he's been building up friends and intelligence community to protect him, etc. so we shouldn't really be surprised by this, but the problem will, this is at the moment the will stops. all those relationships stop. all the brown stuff comes out and that's really the story for me for bite, and i'm in this campaign and even the campaign leading up to his presidency is, is cover ups. and we look back at this history of job of it. we're born, remember him most taking us to so, but well, with russia, we remember him coming as close to with china, how he's messed up in the middle east. how we know america know roller controls, the price of energy. we remember these things,
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but we also remember the cultural cover ups cover ups we've never seen before. on this scale of intelligence, community media basically keeping a presence of empower because it suits them in the longer term and insisting that no journalist can do the job even if they wanted to. you know, the story of the, the bible laptop is gonna is gonna run and run. yeah. yeah. and um, uh, because of the sweet hard deal. they gave him on other issues of in the investigation continue. so he can be put on uh, you know, uh, have get, be forced to give testimony, ongoing investigation for the football, the button to go to jail because it's on the bottom goes to jail, then he has a long line of gymnast. cuz i think he gave $100.00 because if i'm going to go to jail, i'm not going to be the only one the. i think that's fair enough. they're going to go with george. it's, it's so interesting is that if you look at western media about ukraine, up is,
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you know, up until january of to of 2020, to the most corrupt country in europe. okay. i'll be on in, on and on about this here. and then after all this money is being spent, should we have an audit? no audit, that's what the operating point. ok. and there's one reason why you don't want to know what people don't know where it's going. okay. this is mark said this is a lot of using money and it's a grip that just keeps on giving as long as the conflict continues georgia. well, that's right, and i think that's why there is such a great incentive for this conflict to continue a lot of these people making a lot of money and that i think his mother's says if, if the world are to come to an end, they would indeed have to be inquiries about the origins of the war and the by whose families involved with ukraine. but it,
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ukraine has really been of the center of american politics for quite some time. i mean, if you remember what happened with the, from in the, in 2019 trump. i had, basically, he, you know, he'd found out that they'd be some very serious griffin going on with the binding family and ukraine. um, he wanted to learn more about it. and as the other asking questions, and then eventually he got onto the landscape and sat there and well, find out what the hell has been going on. and, and this, this, the story is pretty good. and it is quite an extraordinary uh, fact that the democrats went into a total panic mode when it, when they found out the trump was really digging into what little they've been going up. he got a page and another whole thing to kind of gustovo sweat under the rug and the republicans are trying to make something out of it. but they're not getting very much coverage because the media and i'm going to give any time to uh,
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republicans let me say, oh, that's all just simply propaganda, republican trump, propaganda. but it is an interesting aspect of this that the media absolutely desperate to cover up the connection between the us government and the ukraine. and, and so this is the thing, it's really interesting. i like with george said there, i mean they're being there is, there's every interest on their part to cover up a bite and ukraine connection. but they went, tom crazy over at trump, russian connection but never existed for 3 years. the park. yeah, i think that's probably got some relations i touched up on this point other i think when you look at trump, invited by them is the one who's been a senator since 1972 biden has been investing in relationships in key parts of the deep states. and i think he's built up a huge role chest of intelligence offices. i feel i see,
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i obviously is retired. i'm working and ministry officials to buffer him to create this both a sewing around him. i mean, if we look at a 100 body laptop story, you know, this is a story which is going to gain events and i think between now and elections because even as george bright points out, you know, most mainstream media don't want to touch it, but they're having to kinda ignore anymore. you know, if you look at the origin, start in 2020. this started in the election run up that when binding was a candidates and you know, it was broken by the deputy blue square. so the new york post, a lady cooled uh, j morris, who in 2020 reg as grace 3 by the, the, the laptop unexposed it. and the main issue that she focused on was the emails. the e mails which linked the button family to the energy farm and the ukraine, the payments, and also the chinese companies. what, let's not forget that the buttons were looking at the possibility of selling market
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space to chinese energy funds in america. this is explosive stuff. within our so days, the story was destroyed by mainstream media. biggest political publish. alexa, signed by 51 intelligence officers, which said this was russia, this information. so now this is, you are in the campaign period. i'm, you know, most mainstream journalist even today are mentioning that this was pulled off by the bible campaigned button campaign, basically wheeled out all these friends said we have to destroy the story. we have to send a message to the big media guns. so let's choose a fringe media player to send that message for us plus goes perfect, and it was the message to the big media editors we've done source. this one was interesting as we approach the break here, george and you and i have talked about this in the past is that when they do mention they, they mentioned the salacious part. so they hope there's the drugs, the lifestyle, but they never want to talk about the business side of it. and that creates empathy because he was under the influence, you know, we have to have compassion,
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realtors before we break that. that's exactly right. but what's also striking is that those $51.00 intelligence officials for intelligence, they will have the highest level of the intelligence up are out in the united states, east performance c i a cheese, and as a jesus off to this day, they enjoy security clearance. i mean, they will get a regular briefings on intelligence, so they enjoy what even though they absolutely lied, stuck lies about the this actually the exam was put to profession george, right? we're going to, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate was already
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the tab here. the establishment of the boxes for his email is been in 1933. the position of the indigenous population in the portuguese colonies deteriorated dramatically, especially in angola, dictator and tony all day. i live at uh, salazar, encourage, colonizing the end goal in lands by europeans, and sought after turning the country into a portuguese province. where the and goldens would be 2nd class people. in 1961, there was an outbreak of violence on the part of the portuguese, in revenge for the plantation workers, dr. ford to gaze aircraft bomb the villages in northern angola and race riots took place in african parts of lawanda. the people of angola rose in an armed rebellion . the rude jealousy of the colonialists knew no bounds. despite the un calls to stop the violence,
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the portuguese only intensified their terror against the rebels. the 40s actively use the political contradictions between various groups of rebels during the war colonial aircraft. regularly use a farm and drop the fully ends on peaceful villages. the boards of keys, empire was severely exhausted by the struggle against the national liberation movements. the revolution in portugal brought down the plazas, freezing, and put it in to the murder as war against the people of angola. on january 15, 1975, the l bore agreements were assigned, and the country gained independence. after so many years of the brutal war. the welcome mazda, across stuff, were all things are considered on peter la bell. this is the home edition you remind me were discussing some real news.
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the okay, let's go back to george and due to this, george it's, it's really quite interesting to going along with the griffin who wants this conflict to continue? is it, there are 2 candidates, 2 major candidates, well known to the public, donald trump and j of k, a. robert f kennedy junior. both have been very vocal in their opposition to the way the by didn't. ministration is proceeding us and that makes them there already . target smell, there is no extra targets. i don't know if that makes any sense right there. but um trump, you know, it, he says that he wants them to stop the killing. well that's, that sounds pretty reasonable. okay. he's against more. but he doesn't take a side. and bobby kennedy, which, you know, i've looked at his lineage, he was a russia gator. everybody was faced with bobby kennedy was able to, she gave her and he seemed to have educated and he felt maybe he was watching us,
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maybe was listening the great. so who knows ok, but he does have a very different to make some of that extra target. and we saw this last week with his quoted was anti semitism. this is a substitute to make sure he can even get within arm's length of power. and of course we have donald trump under foreign diamond, so some of it's been a contributor who's out assume everybody believes kind of all the and diamonds will mark my words. george. that's very interesting. yeah. you put it very well because um, there are 2 basic ways in which um, the political establishment takes out its enemies. you either bring up, uh, god of the charge of anti semitism. you know, racism, which is how that's how i took out pat buchanan. um it went when he ran your then jeremy, the 2nd and jeremy called into the good guys exact that you're a bring up that when you we like there's no evidence or do you just we list up and, and just semitism or you practice law said and so with trump though, he does, as we discussed,
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was he has full trials coming up between now and the electronic lease full because it was old, like likely to be something from georgia. and then there's a lot of other stuff possible. so it's very hard to see, but what, how he can campaign while he's go really is going from one trial to another. it's not even all this because none of these grand standing prosecutors or judges. i gotta just say, well, let's delay this. let's wait till off to the electro, not all there around it now. i mean, they get, they get, i think it's been desperate to do it. so if there's like a that he's just going to be going from one trial to another. you know, well, monday i'm doing this and tuesday, i'm the wednesday somewhere else. let me see what the way that they can do is. and of course, all these are absolutely contrived. i mean, they're all basically being conducted by democratic prosecutors. and, and the goal is of, is that, you know, is just to take him out. and is it a said explicitly on m. s. nbc and cnn?
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well, you know, trump to make all this go away. well, he has to do is to drop out just drop out and it'll go away. i mean, you just get a tap on the race. the big deal you plead guilty to a couple of misdemeanors. and that's it. so essentially into the, but the goal is all of this, which is to intimidate them from. uh ronnie, and there's the question, i mean when, when he said a particular on that cnn town hall, when that little, that was the awful report asking repeatedly, don't you one ukraine to win? and he said, the other says, i want the killing to stop that was, that was his response, that's not acceptable within the so the military industrial complex, the, the, the, the policy making a lead the, you know, is i have that. and i just absolutely forbid at the top like but yeah, in martin you know, get into thinking of trump and robert f. kennedy junior. these are 2 people that if one sit there and in power, and the case of trump returned to power,
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kennedy if he rises to power, they have um, some bones to grind with the intelligence community. first of all, with trumps, he was russia gated by the intelligence community and we know what happened to the kennedy family. so really, these 2 people are the most part is absolutely the most dangerous people for the establishment and their foreign policy. and particularly the intelligence community, martin and we, let's remember, j, f, k, many people were assessed what a believe he was assassinated because he's student against big ministry spending. and he wanted to reduce the ministry spending quite dramatically. and so there was some, it goes on the bus, it was with, with some with real, but you didn't. kenzie, i think is that she was pretty small. i mean i've got a lot of time from i like i do listen to him. um, but i think uh, ultimately i think the selection is gonna go down to ukraine more and the mental states or,
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but it needs to be the 2 major issues. and i think of this idea the trump is going to be pumping out co rooms with the really not really affect his campaign. he'll get a lot of media time um for that, but he's made a couple of blunders. let him, i'm somewhat concerned that the button come have 111 school there, 11 victory on the train. more in the trump has brother comes in late revealed for his trust. you would be surprised you quite more. he said to a general is, will or i'll do 2 things. so basically bluff with us and then scale 10, we've got no more money. so we have to end. it's the same time. i'll go to the russians and talk to, to, and i'm going to double check to triples and ministry spending. that should scare me into signing. yeah. your last name of the joke is if i use your strategy, you've never been to journalist, you know, because it kind of takes away the edge, you know, you so you haven't got much was surprised at the bottom cover probably longer than just started and, you know, and i'm not a trump defender. okay. but normally we've heard from almost any possible issue
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come up with his theory of the moment that needed. james was my george way in on that because it's interesting with martin saying, well, i think that's a, is he, he's made a mistake every month is right. he made a mistake and revealing his strategy, but we have a suspect of that. that's kind of what do you have in mind. the problem is that the strategy account will work in the 1st place if the what the the tells the landscape without giving you another dime. 6 business going to be a rebellion with it. his own, uh, politics, and the democrats would immediately move to impeach him. i mean, i was without any question, i'm going to move to beach him. and they will, i need to though, is, you know, below away 10 to 15 republicans and you know that and he's in serious trouble. so that's one thing. the other thing is, what does it tell of bruton? we're going to give you great and everything that he ones, well, what, what else? so what else?
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the they've already received. everything that they want. i mean is they say nuclear weapons that are going to be on the landscape. do you want a little new, small nuclear weapon we'll provide you with that? so he doesn't really have anything that he is a to use as leverage because basically the by the ministration has already given as a landscape, everything. and one of the, so he made a mistake, i agree that of spelling, this album you're going to just lift this up in the yeah, i know how to do it and i will do it. but the, but this, this strategy, this kind of work. yeah. well, the, the, the, the establishment has the ultimate fail safe, but i'm going to go to market right now. is someone like lindsey graham, if you have pipe prophetically trump, where to be turned to the white house and he did exactly what georgia saying, lindsey graham would be the 1st person to want to impeach him. okay. so he doesn't have his car seat that's trying to see the greatest dilemma. he has a huge bass and they worship and they roll over broken glass for him. but he has
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any an establishment the just loads him and you know what the score is? there trump lose is martin. yeah, i think there's also a number of swing voters, the who are sick and tired of the games and the skilled, the grey of by the ministration. i can see through it that kind of see that all of these cases is george points out a completed, contrived, you know, a lot to swing voters then, and need to be 5 or 67 percent for, for trump to get it. but i think the protest groups that we saw before, um with uh, with something and hillary, i think that's going to repeat to so much, much more intensive for the you know, what i worry about martin and i throw this to george. i think there's another option. people are just lucky to participate in this as well. yeah, i don't know. i don't know, you know, considering you know, again, you know, be showing your cards like that. a lot of people just scratching their hands like why do you do that? i mean, you have the best thing going for you all have a plan. okay. i mean,
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ronald reagan did that and he succeeded because he didn't tell anybody. dorothy. right, yeah, right. richard dickson, famous 968. he other think the plans are and, and the war. so yeah, the question, i think that, um, the, the democrats will have another trick up the sleeve. and that way we try to take the trump of the balance. i mean, the, the, i mean if, as, as, as likely is jack smith charges the trump with the so dish and then they got to try and take them off. the ballad by saying, hey, this is a violation of the 14th amendment. uh and uh and the you wouldn't be able to run the, the, they only need to succeed in a few states. yeah. um to, to make this uh, essentially a devastating for trump, but i think, i mean they're gonna try it in every state. but i think that's a big they're going to do that. um, but i think that it is trustworthy. uh,
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trauma is rising in the polls as a result of this, uh, democratic law for it because they gave it to something untoward. this is manifestly unfair to use the uh, the government in this way to has especially persecuted your political opponents. so it hasn't worked for the democrats uh sofa. that's why i think they have to go for the next step, which is they take him off of the balance altogether. yeah, and martin, just for good measure, maybe take biting off the off the ballot of, you know, to show kind of some kind of a quality there and put gavin newsome up there and they'd be more than happy to do something like that. and, and i'd like to say move and let me have like 90 seconds left here. they're not afraid of any other damage. republican in the field, the santas, they'll roll him, they'll roll all of them if they were to get them out. and they rolled me because they're going to be, you know, they, there's a demonstration. i don't want them to do to me what they did the truck. i mean the lesson has been absorbed. martin, there are some people you know, something as well as into u. k. who i follow,
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and i respect so even speculating the they, they think the bottom doesn't even want to run a 2nd time. you know, he hasn't put any money up present campaign. he has this extraordinary our goods. i'm confidence, possibly because of number of friends and intelligence community that are protect for him as i mentioned before. but i think if he tells us i can come thing. what does it look like from his perspective? he's got, he knows that the claim was going to be wound down, and that's, that's good. that's going to be a terrible stay and his legacy. and then all of his investigations that come out, which will state his family, which will my, my, his family for generations to come with the, with the corruption story. so i think there was a, there's an argument there, but there's also another argument which suggests that perhaps, i don't know if it's gonna happen. you were able to correct me, but perhaps in the, in the months coming up to the fund election, the democrats may lose the buffer. they might lose the that for, for this guy, who, by that stage will not, will needs help even remember what day of the week it is. i mean, just last week or just this week. he was with these when he president,
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and i think it was the was ever mumbling that we ever saw somebody this clearly, you know, sort of dimensional. i was just embarrassing. so don't know how fall the democrats can go with the guy when, in one years time it, it might be worse than the to you is as long as the people around and keep the cash machine go. and that's the whole purpose of today's program. and they'll keep them there as all the time we have all the thank my guess, america's and included as well. i think our viewers were watching us here at our tc and next time. remember, prospect rules the, there's no, you asked for to use your national security interest and you created all, i would say there is no interest us interest in ukraine. whereas a very vital interest for the rest of the ration that you pre be restored to a neutral buffer state, uh, separated from uh, from nato countries,
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