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aside the science community, most all sense of the assistance must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin, the machine, the state on process routing and supports the r t, smooth neck. keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say steven twist, which is the, what is the clean conflict? really all about we're told is about democracy. other say it's about the reuse baseboard or whatever that to me. in fact,
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there is nothing noble about this conflict. it's just another huge griffin. those in power want to keep it that way. the hello, i'm manila chan you are tuned into modus operandi with the us putting one eye on you, crane and the other on tie. one, leadership across the middle east seem to have made inroads towards peace between syria being. welcome back to the era bleak and saudi arabia's. they taught with iran. are we witnessing the birth of a new mid east sans the americans will discuss it. all right, let's get into the m o. the after more than a decade removed from the block, syria has made its return to the air of lead. after nearly 10 years of civil war
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and conflicts against tara groups, special r l. a sod made his 1st trip to join the link summit this year held in jetta. saudi arabia, sometimes called the league of arab states, the link both 22 nations in what's considered the era world countries whose main language is arabic and combined. that's roughly 13000000 square kilometers with around half a 1000000000 people. the 2023 catastrophic earthquake along the turkey syria border seem to how much of the lead put their differences aside to bring a to a heavily sanctioned syria. now to be clear, the majority of sanctions on syria are imposed by the us in collective west era lead members where possible ignore the us pressure and sent aid to those devastated areas of sanction syria. as if that weren't surprising enough, seemingly out of the blue, the biggest kid on the block,
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saudi arabia emerged saying they have agreed to re establish diplomatic ties with iran. the kicker. china brokering the data. now this news put the us on its back foot, scrambling to reassess its foreign policy projections. so joining us to discuss all of these moving parts in the region, it is come work l mossey and he's an award winning middle east commentator, founder of seriana analysis. and independent syrian news platform come or thank you so much for joining us. let's start with syria. so after more than a decade, syria has returned to the air of league president bashar al assad arrived in jetta on march 18th to a warm reception from the host country. saudi arabia. so 1st can mark, walk us through how or why syria was injected, or at least suspended from the block of which they were a founding member in the 1st place. actually in 2011,
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the early came under heavy influence of cuts are and this tiny country about to reach with resources, especially with guys in oil. uh, it was the task by the united states to shape the outcome of the art of sprint, especially in, for example, the antonia, in libya, in egypt and in syria. and if we see the sequence of the events, we see that there are some similarities between them. and that compartment took it, they played an instrument, your role in supporting the most important groups in this countries. and hence the most in bought of it came to power. for example, in twenty's, we got 2011 in egypt in 2011, and also the shooting of mcduffy, again in 2011 after the nato led invasion of the country. but on the ground, the groups a that's where waging the work against the coffee forces. they were mostly from the most embodiment as well. so in 2011, there was
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a trend of in our big we say is when i zation of the middle east and north africa and katara was in charge of the arabic and the wanted by kicking out or suspending the membership of syria to isolate syria, diplomatically and especially in the region, and also to give digits, embassy to any escalade, treat steps by the united states in syria that would come into the form of arming and training and sending for exempt them or the national jihadist to syria is similar. the similar thing happens, for example, in libya and the object gave a legitimacy to the invasion of natal into the beyond. this was back then hit by car, as i mentioned. so when the suspension happens, there was a hope that syria would be isolated from its neighboring countries and then give a push to the us led to the gym change were in syria, which was an u. c. i a court of probation. and now we know lots of details about it,
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it is called timber c come here. and it was one of the cost of the best coverage operation in the history of the c i a and the most the costliest. i would say arming and training cooperation by the c i a independent are going into united states and the regional countries. after the of got us done, we're in the eighty's in the eighty's, the united states use similar strategy which is arming and supporting the much i hate in and in college. lots of a young are ups to go and fight against the soviet union. and in 2011, the strategy was the same in, in syria. and we have to remember that the 1st, for example, foreign legion made up of the harko jihadists. it was formed in november 2011 in the, in syria, with the support of this region of congress. so the decision was very political and it was aimed at a weakening,
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serious position in the region in order to facilitate the move with off by shot that side from power. but it between 20112013. there was so many developments in the region and to start with use the imagery, ideas and some other countries. they realized that the outcome of these of aging change words that they initially supported in 2011 was not in their interest. and they has differences with the most name brotherhood, they're the ideal adjusting listening budget. but they also realized that by allowing the most important to come to power in different countries in the, in the region, a turkey has increased its influence over division. because the aragon is also a or kilograms part is also an affiliate for the mostly in budget. and this is historically a red line for this are this, we have to remember, for example, joining the of, of to or from an empire, the ultimate, it's expanded in the 11th and in north africa to the gate of syria. and they found
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themselves in a similar situation where they're going to start to, to speak about the new ultimate dream. and she's a goal to establish a new ultimate empire into the agent. and the to use, i think on different countries. and he's already conscious and he's going to occupy, and this is it against the national security interest of saudi arabia. so they worked during this time to topple for example. um, how much see the president in egypt. and also they changed the system in their twenties here, once again. so there was a lucian and contracted with visions happening during this time. so the big, unfortunately played, i would say destructible. and instead of trying to mediate, let's say, between the army countries or between the, the position and the governments. they came under heavy influence of katara, but eventually under heavy influence of the united states and back then, it was the obama and the clinton administration were guiding this. the outcome i
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would say of this revolution is any way that serves the strategic interests of the united states. but eventually this project has failed. and today we can say that today's or the discard up some, it's a big summit in saudi arabia injured the was the last name in the coughing of the u . u. s. let's project to, if one i is what you summarize the each and especially if they have to be done, obviously you've got to daughter. thank you so much for that history. i mean, it's very important for context here. i think so. so when syria gained independence from france after the adoption of the alexandria protocols in 1944, syria's saudi arabia were among the founders of this era. sally, so the pair do have a long, friendly history. russian syria relations go back to about 1970. how did russia manage this mediation between re, i'd and damascus? and actually the relationship between sar due it'd be, are in syria,
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witness several ups and downs in the past decades. and let's remember that the relationships were always okay between the both sides. but in the late seventies and early eighties when, when it came to power in eden and after him. so bump thing came to power with the support of the c i a in, in iraq in order to fight against a home in new york. and you're not engaged in large scale award against each other and backed in half as i said, the father of the sharp, she a sided with it on against iraq. and back then is so the sand was financed by the americans to start with these and other gulf monarchies. so there was a decrease between the syrians and discharges, let's say, in, in the eighty's. but in early nineties, when the soviet union collapsed, syria found itself in a position that it doesn't have a strategic ally or of an international power that come back syria on the
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international scene. so when somebody send this time invaded, quit suicide it with quit, which saw the it'd be a, with the night states against the dentist in. and the relationships had been repaired again with sort of the area. and the sagas invested a lot in syria because in the early ninety's, syria was going through a very dire economic situation. not similar to now, but it was very bad in the ninety's again. so the relationships were repair of the game to i would say 2005, it was ok in 2005, the destination of the former prime minister, hopefully by the us you can have, you became and they're americans. and these right is accused to be off assessing here thing him and now in 2023. they don't have any evidence for it. but despite that, the accusations were very political against syria. so the ministry ships are always upside down and then they are a sprint came and started the ibm at the beginning, they were hesitant in joining the regime. change word against syria. by the late,
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late 2012. they joined the bedroom, change a efforts against syria, and let's remember what happened in 2015. then the ban. so ton came as the head of to saw the intelligence and bend up. and so ton is very, he has a very close ties to the new york ones in washington dc. he was named best center and i saw the baby in the united states for a very long time. he was named best 100 of the saw this in the united states when the 911 attacks happened. and now since we, we have new information about 2 of the hijackers who are most probably they were assets for the saw the intelligence and the see i as well, of course without them knowing that they are assets. i'm no problem to be controlled, thinks about this person who has a mess of mind in the uh, waging um yeah. first like
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a tax terrorist attacks here. and there and bundle been system. ask the he called the other big for the ministers, defense ministers, head off intelligence, a private. this is and he asked them to allocate to $2000000.00 to remove a shot, a cert from power. and this was confessed by the former for me to sort of cut off how many shifts i might have been just them who confessed that on the national cuts, i'd be tv and said that my number. so don't ask this number. of course, they couldn't get or 2 trillion dollars, but the amount was in my estimates at least $200000000.00. and if we compare them the size of syria with the size of ukraine and the amount of support ukraine is getting them, for example, 150000000000 and didn't see a 200000000000. and the size of celia is very small compared to ukraine. i would say the amount of supports that the sorrow, the, is the categories that you're deter, gave to these the right, because you had this in syria are probably $5.00 to $6.00 times more. then the
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current support that the americans underneath the allies are giving to induce the lensky the he's forces and you're not too bad arguments in, in your current. so it was a huge support. i would say yes. now there is, um, the circumstances have changed and they are also leadership changes in different countries. and inside the area, i would say more from admin southern at 1st 2 to 3 years, he was more of a war hawk. and he was involved in civil um military um engagements in the region in young man, and he will strengthening it on and he was blogging against it on. and now it seems that my himself can come up and said, man, change his attitude. and it's very was coming because a star that it'd be as a power for country and the amount of, i mean literally economic and the religious power. that's all the if you have,
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if it is used for development projects in the region, the region could boom in a way that is unprecedented. and it made it to me that is quick turn into a new west and europe. and i'm not exaggerating about that because the amount of wealth that's all the cuts are and other countries have individuals if it's invested well. and it seems that they are determined to do so. now, after debbie calculations with syria and even in other countries, i'm very optimistic and i'm very happy to see that our big countries and our leaders are showing different attitude not only towards saving about towards the entire region because this really reflect positively on people. imagine the money that they used for destroying syria. i'm speaking about at least a $100000000000.00 for developing projects in syria and for finding jobs. and i would say that syria would have been now similar to debate,
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and that would be in other more developed countries in the region we're witnessing it is strong in that they cannot make strength, but also in their infrastructure in their security. and uh, i would say now with these, um, to buy and sorry, the it'd be our safer and the social welfare, i mean, they couldn't make what are there are way better than in western europe. for example. coming up next, the dragon appears in the desert. china dropping surprise, news that coffee us off guard will discuss it when we return with come work almost in so tight the m o will be right back the the, the
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there's no us for t j a national security interest, and you created all, i would say there was no interest us interest in ukraine, whereas at the very vital interest for the russian federation that you pre be restored to a neutral buffer state uh, separated from uh, from nato countries. the welcome back to the m. o i manila chance people often forget that the middle east region is actually a part of the asian continent. as such, it should come as no surprise when the biggest country and asia steps in to mediate
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a dispute. we're talking about china brokering they talk between saudi arabia and iran to come work l marcia is by is back with us. thank you so much for sticking around to work. so perhaps one of the bigger surprises out of the middle east, lately, was the day taught between the saudis and iran that was broken by china. given the years of what many would describe as, as proxy wars between the 2 countries in various theaters in the region, the several diplomatic ties. why is there a revived bilateral relationship between saudi arabia and around right now specifically? and how did china end up the broker? actually, nobody saw that this data is coming. and we haven't heard about negotiations between the sort of this and the into your audience, with the mediation of china. it was a surprise. we were all clicking on surprise and it's a very happy news. and i would say there are different factors in this. number one,
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the americans are a few of the withdrawal from afghanistan and completely focusing on the ukraine on taiwan. they have, they haven't abandoned me to east about their strength. they are very over stage right now. and if you see the cycle of any empires united states is living, it's the last 3rd of the cycle. so it's, it's, it's leaving, it's last thirds of its empire period, and they have to prioritize their political diplomatic, economic, and military capabilities around the world. so the moment the americans, we say now that big, they pulled their hands from, from the region. there are other powers who came in to trying to fill the vacuum and china is to be presenting. it serves as him as a power that can broker deals. a security deals and diplomatic deals and economic deals with these strong regional powers. but also,
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china is presenting incentives for them to make peace because the americans, they, for decades, they were using the divide and conquer strategy and turning neighbors against each other because it was a beneficiary for them financially beneficiary. and now when we say when, when i mentioned the united states, i specifically mean the military industrial complex. and those are included in the hands of a few, a tiny and it's in the united states. so the united states, as an economy, as a people, they are not benefiting from this proxy words or direct doors that are triggered by the united states. it's the only these tiny elliots benefit from it. however, china is giving incentives to this congress. it is showing them there is a possibility for economic integration between the chinese economy and these regional powers. and it's, it has present it. it's uh, for example, um,
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seems comfortable the initiative and how would you see kind of both the initiative can reflect on the economic welfare of the people. and when defense regional countries engage in economic integration, the chances for immediate trade conflicts between them also diminish. and this is a concept that china is presenting in the region. and i think it's very welcomed. and because the, the interest of china is in establishing peace in the region, and the interest of the united states is to keep the agent in constant turmoil. so they are the 2 different approaches and both china, of course, it's becoming more who jump on in the region. and united states also wants to stay here, do more in the region, but the approaches are different. and i think i, because the saw these have a vision now and the economic vision and they are preparing themselves for the era posts or era. and they want to uh, establish an economic hub in,
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in, sorry, area. creat industrial cities create technological cities in, in, sorry, the, it'd be one of the examples that i heard recently. that's all that a, b, a is building a c, t a and attracting a piece of technological city and attracting software developers and game developers to come to sort of the idea behind develop um, online games. and people may underestimate this, but the future. and if we, if you see where are we heading to, into the digits in words, this could be a main hub in the region for software development and also for gaming development, for example, between and then each. so the, it'd be a lot. and this is a concept of mohammad been settlement that or it is important, but the not using the oil in development projects is a passive thing to do it, which saw the baby updates for a long time. instead of creating this industrial cities and the technology co,
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a technology for cities, they were investing their money in the worse they're investing it in creating a will have disclose the broad they're using it for proxy, worse here and there. and now they have a different incentive and um, i think the mentality plays an important role here. and it, it comes old to m b s from a been sort of man wherever you like him or you hate him to. it doesn't matter. but she is doing what's in the best interest of saw the area at the moment and also for the original development. in my opinion. lastly, staying with syria after that box, us withdrawal from afghanistan, many thought the us might finally withdraw troops from syria's eastern region. where both the oil and wheat fields are. what do you for see happening there? are they gonna leave any time soon?
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i to the us occupation forces are in syria to 1st steal the oil, sell it to the black market in turkey, and sign in their presence in syria. and also the proxy for us is that they train their around $60.00 to $60000.00. they call them the super and democratic forces. they wants to keep the order and the wheat away from damascus. so the fruit and the energy energy is very important for the constructing syria. they want to hold that card for themselves and barking it probably in some others threat digit 5. and the width is it's a foot or so. so there is an energy and foot board against again, sir. you as what? in my opinion, when trump came to power, he wanted to withdrawal and he was serious about his intention to be true. but the pin are going to see how it went against him. and they told him, this is
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a red line because they cannot withdrawal from their perspective from syria before achieving a certain striking certain deals with the most was. and up until this moment that must cause refuses to give concessions to, to the united states. because in damascus, the, in their understood, in their understanding of international politics that things are changing into a region. and then in the global level, especially after the ukraine work and with increasing pace of the of the process for heading toward the multi fuller word cv, is finding itself in a position that if the gift concessions for the united states, they are going to be a time, sooner or later that the united states, we lose, it's gonna be in all cases over division. so why would they give a concession to the united states now and lose twice? and so there is this argument in damascus that of the day is going to come after
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the ritual of the turkish real compassion forces from syria that united states would be coordinate, that the turks don't want them there because they're training for additional dishes . the servants don't want them there, and they'll just sort of this thing on the phone and force us with ritual from, from, from the region. so let's, let's diplomatically speaking, they will be isolated. and it's the, the dimension is not sustainable because they have $900.00 a troops there. it's not like they have 9000 troops. they don't have advanced air defense systems. so syria onto this moment, they didn't engage and hosted. it is like a direct posted. it is against the us, so confusion forces. but if there is an administrator effort against the u. s. o, professional forces, then u. s. needs to bring its air force needs to bring its boots underground and it's very close to operation. and they don't want to do that, so i don't see the united states has a future in syria. they withdrew also know later. and we can use the statement of the former us investigator to syria. have
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a word for it as an evidence for that that you said we're going to withdrawal from syria. it's better for the courage to strike a deal with the mosque was before withdrawing, leaving them behind, and abandoning them just like we did with our allies, enough kind of stuff. so my opinions are probably everything i've done must go should be uh, reconciling with the kurds in the eastern shore of the for it is striking a deal with them, giving them cultural rights, allowing them to teach kurdish endeavor schools and speaking kurdish in their communities. and it's allowed to speak to encourage but the official language arts of surveys are a big and if you go to, for example, annual official center or offices, you have to speak arabic, not the kurdish. every county has its different components. we do not divide countries on ethnic entity, just bases federalism in i would say in the countries that were divided, for example, like in germany, which was divided eastern west. they were allies,
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the communist were here. it was very fragmented. federalism combines the fragmentation, but when you have a unified country, you do not further lies it and try to divide it into a different piece. it's just my opinion to work on last in award winning, middle east commentator, founder of seriana analysis. thank you so much for your time. thank you so much. alright, so there you have it. it seems like when the us leave so called feuding countries alone, a lot of good can happen in that vacuum despite mainstream media parroting state department talking points that the u. s must act as the world's police, because others might argue, there less police and more instigator. that's going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila. chad. thank you for tuning and we'll see you again next time to figure out the m o, the
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