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when it's come to a free can legacy. i am most the abraham julius and they're ready in the 1950s lead. the collective liberation movement that founded the country. ppo stands any. yeah. as we know it today. he achieved this against a background of violent colonialism that went on for decades of pressing the low can african population and dropping the land to date, my guest, judy has never read his son. mondanca never ready, is working to preserve the legacy of his father and his collective movement, the legacy of negotiation, social justice, and african unity. he is a founding member of the forum for the defendants of the great historic and leaders

of african liberation. it includes the members from the family of such a free can. i can like new some and a lot of south africa nasir of egypt. some more. i'm a share of mozambique and many others. but can my direct and he's colleagues, his brothers and sisters connect the past with the present old liberation politics with a freak as contemporary reality. and can he reach to hearts and minds of young generations? and since then, yeah, he's country, and they young in the whole of the continent of africa, the present mother, i guess worst come. thank you. what ignite's the fire in your heart, what makes you go on and keep doing this work? decades and decades after the start of the,

the lucian intends any well, uh, the 2 things, which i think says place me where, where i am right now. uh 1st it's a realization that uh, the jet. the younger generation though, is overwhelmed with information. they receive a lot of information, not all of that information, it's relevant to our history. and so i meet regularly, i meet young people who have a very little knowledge of our history. and who i think need some of us who have that link with the past to a connection with his history because it's a, it's our history we, we have to acknowledge it. we have to be proud of it. and i think part of my work is that, is that exactly that to link the history that we have,

including my father's legacy to the younger generation. but the 2nd part is that i and it's like i'm, i'm in this by accident because of the my father died in 1999. i moved back to the village. and when i moved back to the village where he's also buried, i realized that there's a lot of information on him, but he left including these papers, these books. and so i took this, this is something that has to be shipped by with other items indians. and because of the people who are interested in that, but let's accept floors, the relevance of your father's legacy to the yeah. that to you of actually kept to day. so tell us more about the work that you have been cutting out in pennsylvania before we move on to the pan african 11th. yes, as, as i mentioned,

after he died, i moved back to the village where he was born and where he's buried. and what's the name of what you on it's called boot camp. it's in laws, not most of the most west of the near lake victoria. so uh soon after he was better does it was go a lot of visitors with a lot of interest to come to visit with you. i'm a lot of times i need to come to visit with him as a sign of respect. yes. as a sign of respect is a sign of respect to this lady. and uh, i and my sister and one of my sisters realized that we must organize these visits. so that when the visitors comfortable telling them these a guy who provides some information, some basic information on leaving it is history is legacy. and so that's how i got into this work of preserving his legacy. now i says i went on and that's what he has passed. i realize, but the

a visitor who goes through the compound and then completes the, the to within 30 minutes is different from a visitor who really wants to dig deep into the latest. if looking at it, so this is what i am concentrating on right now. but we have to provide each type of visitor and a good experience. so that the, the satisfied with, with the information that they have requested once the visit. so it is more than just kind of shut of tourism if you would like to engage with the visitors and make him aware of how relevant julia has no written julia as no read his legacy to 2 days. that is any. yeah, and, and the great can either, and you're ready. he had his social philosophy of justice, of change education, health for or,

and he believed in the social structure of africa. and that solutions need to be organic from within. how is this important to at times any today in terms of facing it's challenges, economic and social and, and for and, and, and can, how could julius know really help? i believe those policies never run out of state that they never become relevant. the only challenge that we face is that for example, after he step down in 1995, we had the, the structural adjustment of policies which affected some of the policies that he had put in place. and gradually, you know, they were the minds to change the system from

a socialist system to one which is the market driven and, and, and we know other challenges of the market economies. they don't always make sure that everybody is taken care of. so, so unfortunately we, we are also, uh, the victims of these demands by, of these wisdom agencies to, to, to change our policy is to fit the structure of the society to fit the i m f. and the world bank, julius know ready famously opposed for an age and the dependence on foreign debts and who wanted to initiate the coloma development from we've been with the assembly means that the african country has he also initiated the program of land reform. did he come shut on? so most of his philosophy was based on

a free can concept from within africa. and he tried to link that to an idea of a free can is a, is this relevant today when most african countries are relying on the world bank and the i m. s, and on for in the depth and for an 8 the, you know, the, the, one of the basic objectives of an african me, is, is really to unite all the african people, peoples and peoples of fox are going to be sent to work together collectively to harness the resources of the african continent to make sure that those resources to benefit the people and bring about social, economic and industrial development. so the, the, it's just the tears unfortunately,

really that. uh huh. i think some of our countries are distracted by, by the supposed assistance that you're supposed to receive from from these other countries. but, and i have the opinion that if someone, if a country has a leading position economically, it riley will give up that position, willing, willing so, so to, to, to, to expect that those countries which holding those positions will yield the advantages i think is unrealistic. so the, if you're listed way in which i think africans can develop themselves, is to come together as a continent to put together their resources and ensure that those resources really benefit africans and not become the agents of

other countries, which really well the only interest is to, to exploit the for them and they're ready wasn't just a hard if you call them is he had a substantial spiritual and more. and if he could have side to himself personally and to his policies, he was a christian. and he wanted to build an african philosophy of ethics through he's a social change built on morality on the african family, on the cohesion of society. and he asked to connect to this and his writings. and his speeches does this sides of his personality and his work. does it resonate 2 to 2 days, africa and 2 days younger generation? as i said at the, the, my opening statement we, we have

a problem of being over whelmed, the younger generation thing over whelmed by values and inflammation from other societies from outside of our, from outside of african. so this is a problem. we risk losing those values, those who are you humanitarian values, those values of justice that we had in the past. if we don't make a big effort to to show that there is an alternative way to how we organize our societies. so this is why i think it's really important that we take on the task of of showing these young people that they're more alternative. so how we organize society then the ones that go to constantly receive through social media and through of the avenues of information.

and your father wasn't alone feet, he was part of a globe, but south movement for liberation and change that extended from latin america to africa, to the south of asia. how does this help understand the big picture for the younger generation of, as in the nations of africans? so for example, africans are inspired by such triggers like nice sort of egypt or mendham, a lot of south africa or little member of the congo. and does he, your father become part of this kind of big chunk of liberation, image of change that comes from within. do you think he contributes to this general picture? i think i think he does. he's he, he's of that generation of the sixties and seventies of lead us with the type of

fleet as the to mention. and he played an important role. i think together with his colleagues in creating an environment that also reflected the prevailing conditions within those countries which were promoting these with this uh system. so uh he remains relevant because uh, as i mentioned, we the only way that we can uh, uh, address top challenges is really to look in what to look in with lots to expect someone from, from outside to come and solve the challenges that we had. and these the lead as a 5th generation, and i think where leaders who uh, with a determining policy is based on the prevailing conditions in their own countries

and in bill and regions. so i think it's really relevant to, um, it was relevant then and it still is relevant even though is it normal for someone who works so hard for decades to advance their own nation to make mistakes. mistakes wouldn't made on the economic 11 social level, possibly kind of shut on 11. do you think it's okay for the new generations of africans to dig deep into this legacy in the positive way that you wish for, but to also be critical of the mistakes? correct them? not to repeat them unless the lessons from then? i think let me tell you when, when we got to independence in 1961, one year later, my father wrote a small booklet called uh,

did you say you can say here? it's pretty size, but i'll explain what the contents of the book because i don't have a beautiful language of. so i have a few that i don't have an in direct translation to english. and in that book, he sees a lead of almost insoluble. they make mistakes. so it's not a problem to make a mistake. it's a problem not to admit that you have made a mistake. so it is, what would you interact with young africans nowadays? who would have a dialogue with you? and who would discuss these mistakes? and would analyze these mistakes most definitely most definitely because as i said to humans, the humans are going to make mistakes. and just because someone is the president are pregnant, and sco administer doesn't mean that they cannot make arrows in decisions and policy. and then the another, the level of leadership. so we,

we have to be but he doesn't keep me in that book. he doesn't speak just about the leaders. he also tells the people that you also have the responsibility to tell your leader that they have made a mistake because you might be uh, you might be, for example, someone who we supporting and particularly to but you don't want to tell exactly the but they're making a certain mistake and, and by keeping quiet, you're really not allowing the fool a spectacle society to be part of that the process of, uh, sharing ideas and allowing, allowing the best possible ideas to come forward and help develop. and now you are working with other defendants of africa's great leaders to establish this

forum called african legacy, which extends the whole continent. tell us a bit about this for them, which is the creation, isn't it? what is the idea behind that? what are you trying to achieve? well, uh the idea is that as, as we look back at history and at how a founding fathers are funding leaders, we know very important lessons that we can carry forward to the next generation. so uh, even.