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very few uh uh, percentage wise, um we have much more important concerns, domestic concerns. obviously the threat from china, which is the highlighted by the uh, the chinese air ship incursions, which we've recently shot down of. so a lot of the british word form issues then, then you create a new crate as a country, as a country, half a world away from united states where as a neighbor is a neighbor of russia. and so we need to lead to support in immediate peace deal with russia and ukraine ceasefire and, and, or was disagreement, a lot of the current lines of control. and then we connect that you need to include neutrality for, you create as well outside of data. now written before that during the entire cold war, america was led by foreign policy are released from truman to bush, who understood the inherent limits and constraints of the years power. but for the last couple of decades, with the only exception of trump,
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it's been left by people who believe that the united states not only can but perhaps, should interfere very vividly, very of noxious. re sometimes in both rushes and china's and affairs. is there anything that most co and basing can do to disabuse these people off of that very offensive and very dangerous notion that well that's, that's a really good question. i don't really know the answer that because you know each each i think you're super power has a square of impulse. whether we americans like to can see that or not we, we always can see in our own square of applause that being the western hemisphere. but we rarely accord the square of invoice to russian china. but it's, it's a simply a fact that a rush in china also enjoyed serious influence and us. it's us meddling and military intervention. i will include orange shipments to countries within rushes
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and try to serve it says main points that are causing industry complex. any 3 risk world war 3 in terms of how trainees and russian leaders can, can, can try to change or for policy. and i mean that's, that's the answer, i'm afraid and don't have an answer to right can. i can at least try and try to help us understand the psychology of the us decision makers because i'm sure the military intelligence community knows that at least the russia has the kinds of weapons that can inflict the norm is damage to the united states. the few guys at this point of time have no defense against, despite obese per trail of prison put in as a, you know, as a psychopath, as this gets a frantic, as an irrational person is a calculation that he will be, you know, say, is saying there and wiser than that, he will be, in fact more responsible and not to start the new kind of weren't even if he's
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pushed to the limit the most of the pricing thing that i, that i assume about present food and his behavior. and of course, if this worries that he's a profoundly rational actor, he's a showing amazing restraint in the space of massive by western provocations. it doesn't mean i agree with the russians invasion of the crate. i absolutely don't, but we need to see what i wrote an article recently in the national interest in which i stated that america needs to have more strategic empathy for russia. if we were to put ourselves in russia shoes and in texas, were to become independent right. allied with russia and china, we would invade bomb and internet all of a texas and call it a defensive war in bush the same way in a rush to seize this as i understand it as a of a pre, a pre emptive or rather preventative, more to prevent you crate from a boy from the factory, you know, member to a full member of nato. and i think that's a, that's absolutely and rushes, you know, legitimate national interest to do and, and we have to recognize,
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rush is a legitimate security concern as if we're ever to the end as a, you know, this caught ongoing conflict with the, the russian federation. now you mentioned a present put in being at a rational decision maker, and i want to ask you about the present bite. and then i would never dare to ask such a question about them. you know, private says a citizen, but he's not a private citizen citizen. he is the president of the united states entrusted with some of the most destructive powers in the world. and you have to be here him, you know, making statements that he has some parish than the rockland, the whole world knows that he died from cancer and many other um, not just gas, but the statements that clearly demonstrate how compromised he's cognitive ability is how compromised his manner is, how do you feel as an american, as a person who was, who served the american army? how do you feel about that person in such calling to space,
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making decisions about the global one piece to, you know, it's extremely alarming. we don't really know who lisa lisa, united states for america. it's, you know, sometimes we think it's fine. but as he said, he's still checked out out cognitively. it appears to be someone else. and so we need to let you know, we like to joe by the beer president. he lacks the ability to serve. so i've been calling for his resignation, or is a removal from office by impeachment or other means to prevent but clearly we need we need a more rational after he or the last. i mean, i would argue that a bind is much more of international accurate based on his decisions and his actions in the course of the warranty crane, and specifically not avoiding the warranty period. the 1st place when with all of the russian prize it was asking for, essentially was a written guarantee from the us and nato that you probably would never joined 8 know in their support for them. it's to, of course, which up,
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up until i think the february 22nd of, of last year, president clinton stated, should be the basis for a peaceful coexistence between russian new, great. and that was a, that was an arrangement far more advantageous to ukraine. you know, the dom boss region would have been fully restored to create a control out via with substantial self rule and it kind of economy. and now of course, is that the best case that you create faces that is a ceasefire and which are right. it recognizes roughnecks ation of a 5 different a prior you pretty, you know less well yes, mr. finance. a pretty bleak situation on the on the front lines right now, but let's pause for a 2nd. we'll be back to this conversation in just a few moments. say to you and the
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the welcome back to one of the parks with david pine, a former in us army combat arms officer, military affairs commentator. mr. pine, before the break, we touched upon cause and biden's cognitive capacity and, you know, my own country. uh, i was born in the winning years of the soviet union. it have, has had its own experience with soon i'll leaders. and one thing that i show that these to us is that when you have such um,
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elderly liter and usually what happens is a lot of, uh, you know, behind the scenes clams. and there is interest groups fighting with a child. there are 4 influence. do you see any signs of that within the washington or within the, by the administrator? and yeah, you know, there is a, a really interesting article that came out in newsweek recently. i think it's quite credible in which it stated, revealed that a, the director of the ca travel to ukraine, to, uh, uh, you know, convey a, uh, an offer of, uh, you know, to essentially swear offer for both russian ukraine in which of us would recognize the russians territorial, annex agents of ukraine, exchange for peace. and that, that is, you know, that's exactly what needs to happen. but i think the missing piece is, i don't, i don't believe the buying this ration was willing to agree to you right in your trial. and i think that they continue to pursue this. uh, you know, this uh,
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unfortunate dream of ukraine. they don't membership, which has been, it really is almost the sole cause of this, you know, this entire conflict between russia and ukraine and in through the cold with a glass of west, in general. uh, you know, from my vantage point here in the years policy on ukraine or reserve, your rush is a pretty similar to a present biden's um well aware and this or this the bill it to you all for i. he's call me or just hours because one day they say one thing and then as a they say they either the you have written yourselves of the united states has also admitted to helping ukraine target them kill dozens of russian generals. they are supplying rocket launchers to enable them to destroy targets on the russian territory, including uh, crimea, and on the top of bathroom just heard the same or her sho, pulitzer prize winner report on the american intelligence services
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authorizing a couple of acts of industrial, tow terrorism by blowing up the north stream pipelines, i wonder if that is um, you know, typical american conduct, or is it an overkill even by the, by the printer lose american standards? i mean, do you see any changing, any shifting of the norms here a well, i think this is, we're almost an unprecedented territory because the us, of course, our way of warfare is as much like world war 2 english, like russia during the, the be great feature article we're in the, you know, we're used to finding total wars bombing series of so many different structure. and of course, lately we've engaged more limited wars, but this is a really, in a war. i mean, this isn't just afghanistan. we're, you know, we're, we're trying to counter a, so the soviet occupation back gas, this is, this is a war of the heart of your and it's a war you know, it, which, which rest of uses,
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existential. and so these type of actions, all the actions that you just mentioned are, are really irrational in an absolute opposition. the us national security interest . and they were creating a very dangerous and unstable world in, in europe. that could easily spiral out of control. i mean, present goodness, stated that there's absolutely nothing that he's not willing to do to win the war and you crate. so it goes all way, which means obligated to do that by advice, is very near to escape the commander in chief and any president or any person in his position and would have to swear to the same. yes. and so he's willing to escalate all the way to, to the tactically, to the level of necessary to with, i don't think, i think he understands. that's likely not as barry. but um, you know, i just, i just don't see it. it's just madness to be to the, by them, just raise your zack in this way when we have no national interest and ukraine. i mean, if a rush you were to next all of the great tomorrow,
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and it wouldn't affect us or nato national data security in my opinion. but that was a plan. i don't want our viewers to make an impression that the rush actually was do or, you know, global. so if you oh, of ukraine because i mean, it's a huge territory and russian doesn't have the resources to support all of that. i think at least as far as i'm concerns, the primary goal of the russian military operation is a security strategic security. and for anyone who's ever cited military history it's, it's not hard to understand what's hard to understand is why the united states would push so vehemently against pre be understandable um, requested by russia. i mean, any great power is use that would, that would ask for nothing less. and i've heard you suggesting that perhaps one of the potential answers to that is that for whiten, uh, the defining refreshing ukraine has become a sort of
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a religious dog mind. what do you mean by that? it? well, what i mean by that is that there is a painful factor of uh, you know, to see ukrainian or propaganda saying that, you know, treated demonize, russia, you know, on fox news i, i hear the russian army referred was an army of terrorist. i mean that's just is not true. there's no, there's no um, fax to back up the thus far rush i has a, as a refrain from direct attacks against the civilians you know, for so he prayed, he is a great army forces, have hidden schools and hospitals, which is an in contradiction to the chief convention and, and, you know, pauses them to be with the military targets, but, of course, you know, russia's not after, and actually you crate it, it's in fact, it would be 2 of the war rush at these terms, the to ukraine, which is the ones he quickly, you know,
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immediately accepted the rough is offered to begin negotiating. and essentially that was the, all russian troops wouldn't leave the dog boss free leave all over the ukraine. but of course prime, which is part of pressure and the dog boss region in exchange for peace and, and it's rally. and they actually came to a tentative agreement, march 31st and assemble in which russia lucas, committed to peace by withdrawing for 3. you praying old boston in northern new grade, and the end of us was funded by escalating and towing those lists the not to accept negotiations anymore. i would like to ask you about the, how you see the desired outcome of this course. say that the, by the end of ministration is waging, what is the ultimate goal here to punish rush china? so what does it mean? does it mean, you know, teaching, right russia less than converting, rushing america's image, or perhaps raising russia of the map? i mean, that's the case. i mean, in practical terms,
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what do they actually want to achieve? you know, i mean, there's been so many different statements made. ultimately i said, because the bottom line is the bottom, this ration would like to, to restore the of the status quo auntie, which is which would be 2 of a russian troops to withdraw to their a, their free, in february 24th position one. they were offered in geneva during the last summit by putting them between put an invite and they didn't take it at all for yeah, i mean, it's completely lost. go to rational, why we didn't do that. essentially, it was really a matter of pride. it good by divine ministration refused to close the open door policy for nato that any nation in the world can, can join date on it. it's, it's really ridiculous. you know, we could have had a policy that allowed for other european countries other, other than the former soviet union to join. but they closed the door for a former silvia republic that's outside of the politics. and that was, i believe,
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entirely of going to this war. and instead of what we see for the buyer ministration is, is a desire to, to essentially use the ukranian troops and civilians as can far, i mean to tweak and russian militarily. yeah, the mr. pine a, i think this is actually a very important point because it's one thing when you have a pride, but uh, you know, sending uh weapons and weaponized and ukraine as a, essentially a battering ram against russia is, you know, is it, is it is this.

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