tv Cross Talk RT July 25, 2023 11:00pm-11:30pm EDT
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but i have the opinion that if someone is a country, has a leading position economically, it really will give up that position, willing, willing so, so to, to, to, to expect that those countries which holding those positions will yield the advantages i think is unrealistic. so the only realistic way in which i think africans can develop themselves is to come together. is the content to put together their resources and ensure that those resources really benefit africans and not become the agents of other countries, which really well the only interest is to to exploit that for them. and they're ready wasn't just a hard economist. he had
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a substantial spiritual and more and if he could have side to himself best and the end to his policies, he was a christian. and he wanted to build an african philosophy of ethics through he's a social change built on morality on the african family, on the cohesion of society. and he as took a to this in his writings. and his speeches does this sides of his personality and his work. does it resonate 2 to 2 days, africa and 2 days younger generation? as i said in my opening statement, we, we have a problem of being over whelmed, the younger generation being over whelmed by the values and the information from other societies, from outside of our, from outside of actually consult uh the,
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this is the problem. we risk losing those values, those to humanitarian values, those values of justice that we had in the past. or if we don't make a big effort to um, to show that there is an alternative way to how we organize our societies. so this is why i think it's really important that we take on the task of of showing these young people that they're more alternative. so how we organize society then the ones that go to constantly receive through social media and through of the avenues of information. and your father wasn't alone feet, he was part of a globe, but south movement for liberation and change that extended from latin america to
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africa, to the south of asia. how does this help understand the big picture for the younger generation of, as in the nations of africans? so for example, africans are inspired by such triggers like nice sort of egypt or mendham, a lot of south africa or little number of the congo. and does your father become part of this kind of big chunk of liberation, image of change that comes from within? do you think he contributes to this general picture? i think i think he does. he's he, he's of that generation of the sixties and seventies of lead us with the type of fetus but to mention. and he played an important role. i think together with his colleagues in creating an environment that
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also reflected the prevailing conditions within those countries which were promoting these with this uh system. so uh he remains relevant because uh, as i mentioned, we the only way that we can uh, uh, address talk challenges is really to look in what to look in with lots to expect someone from, from outside to come in. so the challenges that we had and these, the lead as a 5th generation of i think where leaders, who with determining policy is based on the prevailing conditions in their own countries and the, and bill and regions. so i think it's really relevant to it was relevant then and it still is relevant even though is it normal for someone who works so hard
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for decades to advance their own nation to make mistakes. mistakes wouldn't made on the economic level, social level, possibly kind of shut on 11. do you think it's okay for the new generations of africans to dig deep into this legacy and the positive way that you wish for, but to also be critical of the mistakes? correct them? not to repeat them unless the lessons from them. and i think so let me tell you when, when we got to independence, the 19611 year later, my father wrote a small booklet code. uh, could you say it again? so here it's could you say he's, but i'll explain what the contents of the book had because i don't have a beautiful language. so i hate to hear that. i don't have an in direct translation to english. and in that book, he sees
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a lead of almost insoluble. they make mistakes. so it's not a problem to make a mistake. it's a problem not to admit that you have made a mistake. so it is, what would you interact with young africans nowadays? who would have a dialogue with you and who would discuss these mistakes and would analyze these mistakes? most definitely most definitely because as i said, the humans humans are born to make mistakes. and just because someone is the president are pregnant, and sco administer. doesn't mean that they cannot make arrows in decisions in policy, and i mean either the level of need us. so we, we have to be but it doesn't keep me in that book. he doesn't speak just about the leaders. he also tells the people that you also have the
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responsibility to tell your leader that they have made a mistake. because you might be, you might be, for example, someone who we supporting are particularly the but you don't want to tell exactly the, but they're making a certain mistake and, and by keeping quiet, you are really um not allowing the full spectrum of society to be part of that, the process of sharing ideas and allowing, allowing the best possible ideas to come forward and help develop. and now you are working with other defendants of us because great leaders to establish this forum called african legacy, which extends the whole continent. tell us a bit about this for them,
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which is um the creation, isn't it? what is the idea behind that? what are you trying to achieve? well, uh the idea is that, um, as, as we look back at history and at the founding fathers, our funding leaders, we know very important lessons that we can carry forward to the next generation. so uh, you may not show, we're trying to link in the past with the present in the future. are you tend to be teachers or engage in a dialogue, a 2 way dialogue with young africans. i'm concerned about this, whether you are doing it the old fashioned way of just teaching without listening. whether you are prepared to engage in a genuine dialogue with the younger generations of africans who of course have new ideas and that influenced by different sources of information. as yourself
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mentioned, it should be at dialogue because we know certainly we have certain information within the past for the history that they don't have. they have some new ideas which we might, we, we may be too old to, to address. so it has to be a dialogue because of as, as the, as my father pointed out in some of his policies, especially on medication. he said that the, the important task of adults, one of the important to us for adults is to provide an education to the generation so that they have the necessary skills to become leaders of the future. so when i speak of education, i don't mean impose an education on the energy of the region,
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but i mean to have that dialogue that you mentioned so that you, you, together, we create the future that's beneficial to both the current and, and the future generation. but today we are here in the beautiful city of st. petersburg, 2 days before the russian. a free can summit in the international on the international stage, africa and, you know, engages with all parties. and the south africa, for example, leading african nation is bought as part of the bricks group can afford to engage in that peaceful, productive, unfruitful relationship with countries from the global south such as india, brazil, china and with an international power like russia,
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wideman painting its independence and maintaining its presence as a force for goods and for peace in the warm you know, after my father step down in 1985, he became a pig who was given the task by the lighting movement to lead the souls commission, which was an organization or a, uh, let's say a commission task was studying the economies of the what became to be know now is southern country is the southern countries study, the economies look at the challenges. and so just solutions to, to, to problem, to fund the development. so the, the, the basic, one of the basic conclusions that came out of that report which was released after the completion of the work was the solvent countries have to work together.
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because the betty is that a place to buy the northern countries to uh, uh, development cannot be some mountain without having a strong base of countries that to begin to pose some muscle. they begin to create some economic bustle against the moving companies. so the, the, the, the, suggesting that the, the question that you're asking is really, um, i think that's the only way to go. in addition to you, i mentioned also the, the, the importance of africa coming together. so then also africa working together with the start with the rising economies. yes, that's right. that would provide a freak out with alternative ways of funding. it's developmental projects and
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helping get support if he can cohesion as one content. and that's, that's right. because as i mentioned, the, the hold that the northern countries have on the global global economy. it's not something that they will leave people willing monopoly is hard to give up. yeah. you have to, it's very profitable. yes. yes. so you have to fight for it. and the only way you can fight where it is united. yeah. as, as an offer to current and as the global. so what is your message pass and the heartfelt message to young africans intends any uh, i'm in the corner of the content. if you are listening to you right now, away from the full and the language of politics, from hot to hot, what would you say? i ice, i would say 1st, it's really important to know our history, and that's,
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that's really important. there's only a victimization, only of resistance as well. all the history which is relevant to, to our, to our continents. i'll tell you why, because uh, if you don't do that, if you don't familiar with history, then it's really difficult to for us to to pick out specific success stories. they may see what's out to the several, many, many success stories in african this. but then if you, if you do not, if you're not a student of history, and i don't mean this academically, just the someone who is interested in the history, then you tend to be the victim of, of a societies which will provide an alternative that does not show that there are many possibilities within the african continent. and once you realize that,
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then you know that the few states right without now if you concentrate on the receiving information that size away from, from pinpointing the success stories of african in, within african history. uh, venue you really know tennessee kind of thing, the weapons with which you can face the future. so for example, the, you know, the, the, the fact that africa managed to liberate itself between the early sixties and, and the mid eighties. so i think that's a really important to achievement, which is which, which, which then generations maybe don't like, i don't, i don't realize they don't realize the shed the histories that we have for the african continent. the people that lead us, you know, julia, the, in the, in egypt also contributed towards the, the liberation of absolutely figures like nice sort of egypt. and then ben and
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others. it helps their brothers and sisters and this house of the continent and the fight for, for independence. yeah. so it's really important to, to, to know the history, to know the share the history. because with a shared history, then you realize that all, we're not just east africans, you know, it just comes in the end. logistics, tenants, we africans, part of the biggest story. yeah. the story is much larger than then then then what you imagine. so, so, so with that shared history, i think it's, it's possible for a young person in any african country to imagine a bright future to imagine the future with they can make a difference in their own development and in the countries development. and in the, in their content clemons develop. well, as a journalist,
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i'm going to watch very closely what you are going to achieve in the future. and whether you practice, whether you, what, what you beach, in connecting with the younger generations of africans. you know, most of them exist on the fixed talk and social media. so probably you need to go there as well, to talk to them and engage with them and listen to them. i will do that. that was a pleasure. me. thank you, brother. i'm not that i got sick. thank you so much. thank you for you to play thing. thank you. thank you very much. this was an interview with my dad, aka. they're ready, the son of the great times any and leave that julius never ready discussing the legacy of river elf liberation of the continents and its relevance to today's politics in africa. thank you. the,
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[000:00:00;00] the, the, we report which one the front lines admitted down script complex as russian troops sees the initiative and push back ukrainian folks ahead will be russia advocate summit in st. petersburg, we speak exclusively with a bronze over to of nelson mandela who is helping world communities move beyond the legacy of the as the upon the times that people have to remember where we as a kind of just the last that comes to me, especially the sometimes states the rush,
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she has the role in the liberation of the front and states can never be $4.00 plus president j findings, families scandals raise the issue of impeachment of according to the us house feature was another hunter, binding corruption saga on the phone. the a very well welcome. this is on the international with the latest world news update . it's good to have you with us now don't. yes counts. come on to a heavy ukraine unify with shelling reported more than 50 times in the past 24 hours using west and supplied weapons as, as russian troops make advances on the battle ground. i'll see me corresponded more . i don't see of reports one of the front lines, village guns, club public, the, the music is for us to go out here. it is
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a dangerous distraction. pension is preferable, tension keeps you shop the while driving towards the front will stop and tell a command post to find out what's up with the rifle, the edge of the shelley, and whether we can move to then get you to all forward positions. other than that, we're enjoying the weather. so, so i'm us to look at that shell hoble. how's the weather? do you copy over the years or that election? all the adults find no stretch the most dangerous. he's on foot. the shilling goes loud. the idea of whether those heavy rain to the not often enough but the, it's
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a blessing because in a shelter itself, destination in the moment for a few cents. the reason is because it's with this with very itself, the destination such that strapped to the ultimate $160.00, counted bush out, the impact run, run, run, come on, come on. we arrive to a flurry of activity and shelly out of mind that i don't mind that i don't mind that the radio chester is incessant tension. tommy h. the taco settlement. and that's yeah. the whole ball settlement of those involved. oh, man doesn't generate the show to god
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and can text you the heavier you can definitely do. physician with just a few weeks ago was one of the front lines that he's no longer with us through the forest. and here the intensity now troops of the atm tank regiment in the middle of an assault on the ukrainian position. as we watch one russian soldier dodges 3 grenades in as many minutes. it is not a flat $53.00 russian troops versus 10 ukrainians with more arriving. yeah, the best 3 out of who knows what it's in it a new did to me. you're not sure what scuffle, i'm essentially what the lady a master for you know, don't like that. but a united just putting the united just on the,
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with the russian troops of pulled back a mass of you crazy and soldiers congregates together. it is a fatal mistake. no, not really. yeah, yeah. a 152 millimeters, shell screams in impacting just meters from the crowded soldiers. many undoubtedly hate with shrapnel. they begin to flee, carrying but of the wounded with the others i left behind dead in india, the like and not the shell hits. they break, leaving the injured come raid that was in july you go to yes, 8 of them ran. they have a band and there did and then hundreds, some of them are wounded. there's one who can fairly crawl. the rest are on the move. now we can see them running new more. is it a relative? lovely settles. the russian assault team were tons,
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2 of them are injured. you are very grateful for holding up so well. i'm blanking out. do you want to sleep? remember, one rule, don't fall asleep. you got any kids. 2 or 3 of them. wow. now repeat off to me, kids a was leaving for come on, said the is a volunteer medic. he has a way with his patients and he does ask the counselor to follow you to worry. if you panics, then he could freak out. so he shouldn't look at the wins and stuff like that. tell him anything to distract him. make him laugh. chat about something. make him think about other things. when he talks, that's good. if he can answer, that's great. the wounded are evacuated even though i'm a vehicle. in the meantime,
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magazines are reloaded. i mean the shift is blow seen in less than an hour of fresh salt spotted who be sent in to claim the trench alone. with all the bodies in it. for a gas t of t for them came in, i looked on screech at the uh, the ukraine conflicts escalades. that was design. think even more fuel to the file with another $400000000.00 in military age promised by us officials at the expense of american tax pay is that as well drawing increasing criticism on the home front disease we my h, i explained in the united states has plenty to send $400000000.00 in military a to ukraine. now the package includes a variety of munitions for advanced air defense systems as well as the civilians, hornet, drones. but overall, the united states has spent over $41000000000.00 on ukraine since the beginning of the costly and it seems like it is very much dedicated to see
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a ukraine when they're even planning to send cluster munitions. some western analysts have said that this conflict for the united states, the negatives of this conflict outweigh the positives. and they've said that what's best for the united states is to open up for dialogue. but let's take a little look at the negatives right now. so they've mentioned a potential nuclear risk, as well as an escalation of direct conflict between nato and russia. and as the us general mark, milly has even listed to avoid a russia and nato war as a top priority for the united states. because that would essentially mean that the us would be in hot water is with a nuclear power. now, a lot of conflict poses other difficulties for us interest. one of them being spending more money when it comes to ukraine to make it return to its economic sustainability, as well as since the united states has an interest in stable energy markets. the
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longer this conflict goes on, the more pressure comes on food prices, but also global economic trends affect the united states greatly. uh, the united states economies to be precise. and so as long conflict would mean that the global economic growth would slow down. if this conflict goes on even longer, that would mean that the united states global priorities with essentially be suppressed and the conflict would absorb its military resources and its energy. analysts have also mentioned the bilateral relations between russia and the united states. and they have said that it is very much unlikely for them to get any better if the conflict can see use. they've also mentioned the prospects to negotiate a follow on to the new start treaty, which is set to expire in 2026. these products prospects will remain weak because for the united states and the european union of could be in the ukrainian state, economically. solvent will multiply over time as conflicts,
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inhibits investment and production beyond the potential for russian gains and the economic consequences for ukraine, europe, and the world. a long war would also have consequences for u. s. foreign policy. the ability to focus on it's all the global priorities, particularly competition with china, will remain constrained as long as the war is absorbing senior policy makers time and us military resources. we have the democratic presidential candidate, robert f. kennedy, who has said that this is no longer about humanitarian aid for the united states. but instead that the united states has turned this into a proxy war with the rock shop. we have neglected many, many opportunities to settle this work peacefully. the way that we have conducted the war is bad, so these printing is terrible for the granting people. even among the current administration bite and administration, the us national security advisor jake sullivan has also said that the by the end of
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