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2024 presidential race is just getting started. i think the number of what the hunter has earned from his paintings is about 1300000. uh, this lady pays about 2 thirds of that song. and it really doesn't matter much to me whether she paid before or after she got the appointments. if she paid before, she was buying it. if she paid after she was paying it off. so either way, it is remarkably suspicious for a president who keeps finding that he's being transparent. and yet the more refined in the drip drip of the 100 by and by the family corruption, there's a lot more still the top. well, they were trying to claim that they weren't gonna let people of be allocated for making these payments for 100 bivens the artwork, because they didn't want to look like it was buying insights. but if they know, if 100 knows, if the buying administration knows, then they're secretly buying influence, which i think is, is even worse than if they were doing it in the wide open. nobody in the world thinks this art is worth what's being paid for it. so it's clearly
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a bribery scheme, it's not about somebody who really wants to go to interesting arts on their wall. they're better artist in the world and then again, dad and i don't think that 100 stuff is going to appreciate in value. over time. in front of the suspended governor, the nigerian central bank has pleaded not guilty to illegally possessing firearms and munition. the hearing was the governor's 1st public appearance since godwin m. a few days, detention by not judas secuity forces in july, which occurred the day after the country's president suspended him. the defendants arrive to call is holding a copy of the bible. the hearing resulted in the governor being guns and fail, and the hearing being agenda until november. according to the governor's brother, the case raises concerns of a democracy in the country, or the department of state services disagreed with the cost decision. love correspondence, which is what the test page is. unfortunately, this is a job cooperate populate that. this has happened in the commission. the people with insight,
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with the parts of the people in maine to be the way i am the south end of the gulf. notice for buckle fighter, i told the name if he wants to be irene on the account, charge of my legs and to get possession of firearms on condition. as exactly 9 terms, the men of the department of state scurried promising. um the sofa shows it wasn't really 2nd to the constables where it stops. it goes directly
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the science of justifying the culture premises about hartfield men of the department of state for just doing within the purposes sandwich. as soon as you know, busy because of the night johnson november, thoughts in section 3, trial will comments for that. so wrap this all minus bits of scott's palm. be back to the top of the hour, but do stay tuned for an interview with the south african diplomats number 10, but some of his parents split permanents on tip outside types of stuff coming up next to the what is come to a frequent legacy. i am most abraham, only that tumble was a prominent icon of african liberation for decades. he fought with his brothers
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and sisters in south africa against the apartheid regime. he inspired so many and still inspires so many to day in the beautiful city of saint petersburg. i have with me his daughter know my temper with come sister. thank you. my dear brother. tell us about the legacy of your late father. well, i think the 1st thing that i should say is that for south africa he was off as diplomats. he was 9 for his brilliant mind. give me the good strategist very, very good. he was known for his analytical thinking. and the other thing i think that many people may not realize is that he led the largest and to pause. i was only 13 movement in the 20th century, a huge, a huge achievement, and he did this mainly by using diplomatic skills. he went to the
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united nations. so for example, in 1974 united nations, they suspended south africa's membership because of the international opposition took part right. that was done on his watch. she went to church's internationally and take up the support of the international religious groups to stand up against the portraits he wants to individuals, countries. he traveled the globe for 2729 years. and what was his mission? his mission was to tell the world about what was happening in south africa, the injustices that were being done to the south african people. and to internationalize it by getting the citizens of the world and the governments to stand up and say, this is an abuse of human rights. and he did, it says successfully that ultimately, we managed to go home a back to south africa. and for him jump vote on mission accomplished,
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and i think that's the message, but he would want people to know that he was given a jump to do and he did it. but of course in that see still was a family mind. he just had a large family because it wasn't just me and my brothers and sister, she had hundreds of children, thousands of children who live with the world, particularly of to 20, uh, 1976. this was a uprisings when a lot of our youth left the country, they wants to come. they wants to take homes and fight against the apartheid regime . with a talent to be able to have this global vision. and the same time be present and powerful on the local level and actually linked to the younger generations of south africa. i do think in this way we can take an explanation from him and seek
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a global corporation against injustice everywhere for the circumstances. now different because of international division, they're not different, they're not different. one of the things he said, which i think is so pickable today. when we look at our youth and the very hard life actually, that so many of them have to live. he says it's a country that does not care for its youth, doesn't this of its future. and i think we need to tell that to a young people. we need them to understand that we do care about them. we do worry about them. we do want them to have a future because so many, i think, feel despondent. they feel the voiceless, they don't know where to look for hope. but the hope is that is, is that, and people like my father them so many of my father is around the world, not just in south africa, but in all consummate outside of
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a continent. we have close to talking about. so i'd have to with me. but the african continent is full of huge lead is huge leaders who are taking the people and they use fruit to liberation, to a space with a could to have self determination. and would they could decide their own destiny. now and this time is really important that i use understand that they can decide their own destiny is a choice. they think the use of a freak out today can actually understand he's the magic language and he's peaceful work with the international community which proved successful as you said. or do you think the use of today is more engaged? sometimes in more detail lies ideologies and more. a nicolai's ways of protesting i know, fighting against injustice. you know when he was young and he was new to the political arena. if i can put it like that, he was also considered
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a radical. so there's nothing wrong with young people having extreme views and holding them with passion. and the thing is to take that passion, intellectual lies that make it work for you, make it useful for your community. whether that's and if village in a city in a country on the continent in the world, the useful be productive. and i think that message is for all ages. it's not just for the use of the international living. we cannot say that in the fifty's, a 16 seventy's and eighty's or international powers were fighting against apartheid regime on the same level. and the soviet union, for example, you gave much help to the liberation movements of africa. why some western power is supported, some unjust colonial powers in the continents. do you think the picture is still similar, or is it different? i think very often when we look at global politics,
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the ones that you can never know is national interest. so it was in your national interest to get to the left, you go to the left, it has to go to the right to go to the right. and every country has its own reasons . i wouldn't want to be the one to say that this is better than that. but from my perspective, as a black south african, yes, the soviet union and many communist countries, socialist countries, they supported us. for the case, for decades, many wisdom countries, capitalist countries didn't. but then you have to punch in the middle, the scandinavian countries, huge raise a portion of the anti apartheid cause of injustice is generally or not consummate. so i think it depends on the depths of relationship which you have with any given country or rulers of that country. that helps the lot, the level of education you have amongst the different communities. now, for example, with the soviet union,
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they understood us well. they took interest in time to understand us. we understood them well. of our young people can't university. in moscow, they learned russian. my says, boyfriends was a black south african boy who had been to a russian universe, so he told me, tried to teach me to speak russian. um, so we know we were very comfortable with, with that kind of relationship. the same with cuba and the same. so many other countries, northern africa, particularly the algeria, i could say, for example, a country that was usually supportive. in fact, i'll jerry, it was one of the 1st countries to give my father passports when he left south africa. um, you know, the seventy's and eighty's especially get duffy on libby. i was about to say, yeah, you know, i mean this in many countries are there's not much for that. that's cool. that's a huge, really important. great, great man. and so we, we have a legacy coming to legacy if i can put it like that this such talk about diplomacy
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from your side on yourself is a good match. and it's for me, i have no idea how you could approach young africans and encouraged them to take up diplomacy. it is not something that is common in social media, for example, or a common gene for a young african women or 9 to, to think of this as a way of changing things. do you think diplomacy can actually be a way forward for young africans to think, for example, about they know how to unite the continent diplomatically, particularly how to approach different international powers for the good of the content of diplomatically again, is that something that would tempt the young africans these days, my brother, what are we doing now? we're talking, we're exchanging ideas, you ask me questions, i'm answering your questions. we're having a dialogue. no. a diplomacy take that would away. because it distracts
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people and took about relationships, building relationships, learning about each other. what are your strengths and weaknesses? what can i support you? where can you support me? how can we create something positive and strong together? that's diplomacy. but if you put the word diplomacy there, maybe people don't take a step back. but if you talk about making friends and building relations, understanding fixing problems. everybody does it every single day for the challenges facing us weekends, everywhere. there are hot realities that go beyond the nice to and the, the blue magic approach that are harsh economic realities, harsh political divisions. how can we tackle these divisions and the yeah, that is inspired by the great leaders of our free care such as your father. how is this relating to your own work? as a diplomat, as, as,
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as an african woman who existed not just on the south african seen, but on the international. you have to talk again is full about communication. if you don't talk, you cannot understand anything about anybody. beautiful heavies of yourself to other know you talk to others and you understand. and if you have a family, you know yourself. there is no family that doesn't have polish woods business family with extreme positions often and not taken but you push through because you have a shared vision of what a future should look like for your family. so he will fight. you will disagree. you may not talk for a while, but ultimately you have to tool because if you don't talk, nothing can become resolved. and i, you know, honestly, for all the things that are happening in the world, if people could put aside a minute to say, what do we want to gather that we are prepared to push all the other things aside.
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what do we want to get to do? we want our children to grow up with food in their stomachs, the roof of, of, at a future. if so what are we doing to make that happen? because if you say, let's do your wife and you to always fighting any and just say the children come 1st, am i right? when we have to day hit in st. petersburg, attending a big gathering of talking and dialogue. and it's happening between the continent of africa and the russian federation. discussing economic corporation politic can be stalk. what do you think can come out of such gatherings? if of course, the house in the right place. and if people are truly willing to tool have a dialogue in advance, the causes of justice and social change together. can russia and africa do something good together? and you're not in your opinion. why not?
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and also you see, the thing is, is that what needs to change? i think is this notion that when people talk about a country is one. but when they talk about sandia, nigeria took a been gone the can. yeah. we'll come together as the continent, africa. and so there is this tendency to say there is this continent with 53 or different countries and he has 1. 1 is a good story to 53 must be a very patient one. very patient one. yes, because you have 53 people talking, not one person talking back to you about doing these 50 so you can just have coleman problems and common reality and common challenges. but they also have different realities and different challenges. and again, it comes to self interest, the interest of each country is for the best of best citizens. what we're trying to
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do now is the a you, is to say that we have to find ways where what happens with in us is more important than what happens outside of us. we determine ourselves, we need to be more interest spec to maybe we need to decides that it's wonderful to have relationships with other countries. but we need to say african solutions, african problems, not wisdom solutions for african problem. we also have the bricks rule, which is mainly composed of global south countries, that brazil, the india, south africa, of course, china, and then russia from the north. it has been going on for years, the many trade agreements, politically agreements. and it seems that more frequent countries want to join the bricks of reuben judy, a have declared it's attention to joint egypt to needs. yeah. nigeria,
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many other countries do you think in the bricks or group? there is a space for dialogue for, for uh, you know, benefits for or you cannot make a change. would you as a diplomat and the someone who has be active in the continent and internationally dissing the brick subaru that provides a good opportunity for africans to move forward. i think any group would provide a good opportunity for any countries, so long as they were looking for peace. they were looking for prosperity and they were looking for a better life that people. and they were looking for ways in which to productively engage without looking for destruction, without looking for taking money and all of those kinds of things. we really are a bunch of equals, that's the way that i was brought up. and that's ways that the organization that my father led for many years. that's what they believed. we are a band of equals. did you father? think of himself as african. how on us could he not?
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what else would he think of him so far? so would you think that the pan african vision is organic and essential to his legacy hosting? so he was a pilot for goodness. yes. and i think that, you know, the whole notion of that kind of thinking, if it's, if it's true and on polluted, can only take us further to where we want to go as individual countries within our continent. but you know, we're very, we, we come from so many different historical backgrounds, francophone africa and different echo could and which of these, speaking of a speaking africa, then many different types of africa in africa. and i think that the most important thing is that we as countries within that space, that we come to a, something of an agreement as to how we move forward. and i think that's exactly what's happening, which is why other countries do want to become part of the brakes for many,
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many of the great icons of, of african liberation, such as not sort of egypt. then below for judy. again, if you will leave the little number of the congo in the chroma of gun. they believed that at unifying a freak out economically, having a common markets, a collaborating with the industry, having trade agreements with help unify africans of elizabeth. because the common good to the common economic and good would help people to communicate and feel that their interests are united together. and then people will forget about their political divisions or linguistic divisions. would you encourage the a you can union to move forward with progress towards more economic unification of the country? i think that's exactly what's what's happening. uh you see that you made
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a slip of the country. i said, well, yes because of my heart to me the of the content and if it's a good when a present around the post was, was jeff as, as a, they did a wonderful change agreement which is continental the face. and that allows us to face with each other with that over red tape that has historically been that and it seems to be holding it seems to be holding. so if we can keep that kind of a mention going, there's no reason to, to why we can't find ourselves in a position where the wealth that is generated in africa stays in africa. again, we have to go back to how to connect to young africans. because it's one of the most pressing issues, they are the future. and they are active in many parts of the continent in my travels around africa, i needs beautiful, educated,
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very energetic young people. but in my discussions with them, sometimes i feel that last, they don't know the history of the continent as well as they should. they might know the names of the icons of african history such as you great father, but they don't know exactly the details. they have the proper legacy, the, the ideas, the philosophy that what these icons of african liberation, a chief and every day in the everyday life. and would you think that people like you and others have responsibility to actually engage with young africans and listen to them and have a dialogue and see how we can have even a cookie can look at the a teller past, including the life and work. so if i want to great african icons, a cookie can look to land from them steaks and to allow young a freak in specific their mind and to be who they want to be, but inspired by,
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by our past. would that be a reasonable course of action? this engagement? i don't think it's, it's really that complicated. i think that the question to us is, when kids go to school, when all children know studying what are they learning? what is the history that i think a lean towards, what is a learning? and they learning the history of the rest of the world. and they learning the history of the continent which countries of learning about if you're in the north, so you're learning about no history. you're learning about history, the south. what is going on? we don't know, i don't know. but what i do know is that everything is out there on the internet. now, if you're interested, you can find out. but 1st you have to know you're interested. and that comes down to what you hear at home. do your parents know maybe not? nothing wrong with it, but the teachers know, so we have to look at the education system while we would educating our children for the countries within the continent. so they've gone and knows what's happening
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in uh, i don't know. in l jerry. yeah. what are the issues that of who are the heroes that do they know? is it discussed? do we have master can education system for this kind of thing? so i don't think we do. so if we want our children to be able to plug in to the many icons so many here is the ration heroes that we have in africa. we needs to have a commonality of approach to how we speak of them continental the i think when we hope that such a dialogue could act without having now an oddity would help people to pay attention and engage. but maybe we also need to be present in social media. do you have social media accounts or so that's really not. or how would you engage with young africans without being on so shiny that i can't do that? no. not too much nonsense goes on the social media for me. i'm not interested. so i,
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i shouldn't probably say that, but i'm really not interested, but you would of course engage with them on other levels and different ways. of course. well, i'm happy to talk to anybody any time, but i didn't really know what you mean about social media if you don't love things like facebook and take talking to that. no, not for me. absolutely. you know, i'm, i'm sure it's a little very useful, but i also see of a lot of very negative stuff that is affecting all youth and the kind of of, of information that, that consuming through some of the social media outlets such as, think of, hopefully so i search, i'm too old for that so i can be bothered with that now. well, we hope that we would always find new ways of engaging with the young generation and our continents to preserve and revise the legacy of the great leaders. so if i for the calibration system, how much i'm a thank you very much. oh is the pleasure of my brother who is a pleasure. take care the
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