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it no official confirmation just yet, but some suggest is that the meeting between the 2 sides could be an attempt at uncover paving it's way too convincing. russia to continue with the green initiative that was brokers last year i'll be it's on color says that's much of the kremlin concerns needs to be made as well. so unless we get official confirmation, it's going to be a little bit of a secret until then. our to corresponded guessing again with the latest from circ. yeah, thank you and that's a rav for this hour, but head over to r t dot com for breaking news and updates. thanks for watching and don't so far. my colleague, nicky aaron, will be taking over at the top of the hour the take a fresh look around there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just
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a shifted reality distortion by how of tired vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the hello and welcome to the cross doctor. all things are considered, i'm funeral about is the west propaganda war against prussia beginning to show
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grafts, the military situation. the ukraine is being revealed as grim with anything approaching optimism fading. nonetheless, the, by the administration in the inner parties, soldier on wasting ukrainian blood, the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess. good luck on my son in berlin. he is sandra seriana analysis and, and being, and we have alexander, my cobit, he is head of the surveyor of institute and being a gentleman crossed up rolls and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want . and i would appreciate it. all right, let's go to berlin. it's very interesting over the last few new cycles. and there seems to be some reviewing information if we can put it gently, is that the, the wall street journal was talking about how the, by the ministration knew that the counter offensive bed that was so hair on by the
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wednesday. and they can't breathe. shame that they had no real air covering anyone know if any knew what to. i'm not a military person, but i know you don't go into a major conflict without any air covered to protect your troops in your, in your tanks and whatnot. here, this is an amazing admission on their part. it shows this is all about politics, an ideology, not about security, and certainly not about you train your thoughts a bit. there are some people who may think i'm exaggerating, but my heart, the brakes when i see all this for them, people in ukraine where they are with tens of thousands of ukrainians are dying in disputes grandeur. and i'm not exaggerating when i call it the meat grinder. i'm a political journalist, i followed the steering board ready to close the and i know what for the vacation means, and i know what mind the territories means. and in, in your credit, in the right now, this is, this is the most mind territory and the word and the most secured for this occasion in the work and the restaurant establish this
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a mind areas and deep worked if occasions in a way that ukraine would need the very strong part deliveries, and they have to bomb to fort if occasions for weeks at least we're talking about probably one to 2 months or 3 months of bumping up. but that's just for verification and area to cover before the attacking forces can advance in the russian hill territory. as in, in ukraine. we haven't seen any of this. they pushed through, you'll create on forces introduced mich grinder. and now the american prize acknowledges that at least 20 percent of the newly supplied hardware advance tanks that they provide up to ukraine are destroyed. and let's be honest picture. if the american press this 20 percent, you can multiply that to 2 or 3 that's, that's like they're trying to do a narrative management. right? because look about a very good example of that. there was some news reports over the last few new
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cycle south. a few 1000 rifles went missing a few 1000 grenades with mistakes, which we all know is a cover story for mass, the best of this military hardware. so you're absolutely right. let me go. and alexander, alexander becomes more and more obvious that the, the, the bites in ministration is in different to the, to the casualties and the economic destruction. not only of ukraine, but where you tend to be and live in europe. yeah, you are totally right for the buying this dress. she does all the wars just about ideology about she was so beautiful in bed and they don't give a damn about the people living in europe. all the people living in your train, we are just on track figures for them which day to move that will and therefore you have, of course, is catastrophic losses. drugs, um, you go down,
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take it for granted. if it would be a valid american soldiers type thing. they're in your brain on the divide, the space, you would never risk huge loss numbers. and i guess all the bottom administration would not be ready to risk un enormous economic recession, which is taking place in europe right now because of these back to laws against russia. and the floor of course is um, not about us caring for europe or protecting us from so called russian aggression. but they simply one through um, ice cold. um they start or their own. um global is the agenda a little far as their own powerful. and this is the only reason why this war is the ronnie jobs, the bottom, if it is fresh, you will just be really interested in advance of your brain. and then the bill of 0
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been they won't have stopped this war last year in april when it was possible. and then last year, you know, and that's exactly where i wanted to go exactly to the, let me go back to government in, in, in berlin. that me, what alexander was getting to is really at the heart of all of this is in the west, particularly the united states and the u. k. had wanted to see a resolution to accomplish that should have never happened in the 1st place. they had an opportunity and assemble and they walked away from it. and as a result, why would the russians engage with the same players for some kind of resolution? they have no reason to be. yeah. a little up in north st pipeline. oh, cool. um, sabotage being the black sea green initiative, its the west that is done this repeatedly. i have read account after account of accounts about the blacks a grain initiative. the russians walked away from it, but nobody explains why. go ahead and berlin it or they didn't all the walk away
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from the negotiations in late 20, in late february 2022 and early to april 2023. there was a 2022. the if there was a big opportunity to sign a p, c, and d, okay, and do united states sold the ukrainians that you're not allowed to sign on? decided we're gonna give you all the weapons and ammunition that you need to continue despite. and what i thought it was nothing about ukraine without you pray, the notes, but no good on out up. i mean sion we have in july and late july 2023 and they are now with knowledge. think that they, they have to supply these to a different type of weapons. now the costs are bumps to your grand because they have an out of, i mean, nation. what happened is very, very oddly, especially with the north st pipeline. plus they didn't only withdrawal from the negotiations, but they blew up the north st pipelines because they knew that jim and he was suffer economically and they knew that germany was suffered on an energy sector. therefore, they know that germany 10 back off on a later stage on this board,
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we need support to, to, to your grade. therefore, they blew up, but look, it up. so that's germany stays in this war till the end. and no, unfortunately, i would say germany is a hostage for this pro, and i live in germany and i hope the german government wants to come after me. first thing this, but they're hosted for this, but this is not, they were in ukraine. and i'm just reminded by this famous quote to be america's and it made can be dangerous, but to be america spent is faithful and it's happening in front of our eyes every day. and people still say, oh, but we have to save you. okay, i don't understand why a person like me sitting here in berlin. nobody asked myopia and why should i fund this for it's, i'm paying for all the bills out of sky. look at the cheer and the salaries are the same. but the people are waking up and that's why when you see the poles, they're building coalition, which is the to bigger parties are the so social democrats and the greens,
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they have less points. then if be the 5 i school and the people are increasingly supporting day if the for the associated going on make situation. and because of the ukraine works, and if there is an early election now the a, if the could win even on did sit on the macros part the, if they mobilized themselves. but, but you know, it's going to happen. nobody would form the correlation with the figure out there with this. they may just be model like they did in sweden. they would not let the major part the do. they wouldn't work the coalition around it. yeah, i don't like center a it's, it's very interesting with the simple process was brought up. i want our viewers to understand what was being discussed that assembled last year. there's a lensky regime was being asked to give up whether it did not have the double bass in front of me. they were they, they didn't have control of it. they weren't. so we're just the, with the,
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with the rest of us. like, look, you don't have control of it, sign this, and then we would help us deal with these and that one's a great deal. a deal big ukraine will never get again, as we all know, alexander, as long as it's the same as you, they basically have a big chunk thread bump, but unfortunately, they are over ruled by back in those days on board as johnson and do not have children as all the stores do not have that, no one wants to prolong his conflict. we want to avoid russia as a result. and therefore, we are now at this very moment where the united states, um, don't have any regular to re, i'm edition anymore. just send it to your friend. this is the reason why they are sending gloucester balls here, right. so in order that um does human misery and this operate even rolls and explodes even more. and i guess if they are um accelerating the conflict of this
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right, they roll sooner or later. um also then there are 5 projects maybe and um use other measures in order to prolong this conflict then they could do them lot. yeah. and did you on looking up the current um gosh, in poland or even planning um, just standard combine wirelessly for indian voice. do you bring in order to prolong something? so i really hope that, um, some people in your comfortable faxes, especially, well in the 2nd half of the program, i wanna ask the 2 of your opinions why you can't come to your senses. but since we're, we're talking about the escalation lab work, let me go to you back in berlin. i don't believe in this f. 16 minutes. i don't i, i think it's a lot of top. i don't think they're ever going to send them. the timeline gets pushed, burglary further in the future. you know why my friend? because they're burned like any other plane in over the air in the air space. that'd be great in western arms, manufacturers know, and how do you sell an f?
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16 or an f? whatever, when it can be easily shot down by current technology, russian technology, they won't send them because they're, they're afraid they'll burn. go ahead. you to, if you remember just a few weeks ago, there was this a big type about the tax free. the leo birds afraid of banks here in barely and in front of the trance movie. old. this the people who wants to go to your parental fight, but demanding good. the gym and government to supply this weapon or the to the ukraine insights. and we told them back then, a few layer per, it's $102030.00. they're not going to change the equation. we know this in our 1st time in syria, it left winter to use this new approach. they will all smashed by device from floor to this very quickly. we know it's been the 1st experience we have seen them. and now this all this talk about the, the f. 16. ok, let's suppose your brain has an f. 16 now. where are they gonna operate this step
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16. all their efforts can be bumped and they could, they can go, not operational. are they going to the others don't enter strip in ukraine that can support it. they don't have any maintenance crew to support it. how they're going to get the immunization is there for nobody knows. this is again, that's why it's all media propaganda. finish up. before we go to the break, go ahead. maybe they're going to use the police that the, it's the to, to as an operational point or, or the part of the sales who's, who has more names here. ok. has a poll, the polls one class, the back of the old former land. then the premiums can take a, a handout and then there then, then central of your brain to say, well, we're going to go with russia. good job, joe. you just eliminated ukraine as a sovereign state dental, and i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on your brain state without the
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the color screen of the must be why, but just need to see what was it the key at the washington state, the rules of the computer system, the phone of send this to you for the list of over the age because they use the
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welcome across back. were all things are considered. i'm peter though this is the home editions remind you. we're discussing some rooms. the ok, i want to go back to alexandria, indiana. you said, you know when somebody in europe thomas did their senses. tell me more friend because i've been waiting for that. i. i really like it's devastating to see the democracy deficit in europe when it comes to this topic because i know many people in europe that have been on this program, but it says i have to take a pass because i'm afraid. so, you know, it's a speech issue, it's a democracy issue. this is an extraordinary thing. and i thought these were a role based order countries and they were ex, forwarding their model to the rest of the world. it's full of contradictions. go
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ahead. yeah, definitely. so, what is your new browser listening? uh, what is mean based auto to the west virginia, bottom is the, do the rest in order to install alternator famous products and relaxing. and i guess, did you all ok right now, a lot of the cuban government may be drawn may be um, invalid our ultimate spin, austria, a good blow, slowly realizing that this war is not the level for euro and they'll fall. do some all have to change their strategy in the back to the end. it's very interesting that over the course of the last week. good, good, good. so i'll change all the speeches off wherever you as well as the leaders. for example, the check president model comes to my mind who go to learn more or less directly that just now it's time slot ranging until the end of 2023. and if it's not,
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if you're not able to accept the results of the gums, okay, then download the i actually thought between the us and russia on the thread this conflict. and i guess probably not the um, only european. um, what was the visa hard log in there? i mean, he's not soft on right. so parts of the form or do you need a nato commander? i mean, they probably know something here, but i think it's, it's really quite a, you know, i've been applies to both of you. i've been watching this laser focused on this, but i have to say, and i think people going to attack me for saying it's been so wednesday was the only one that made any logical status in build this. ok. i mean, you said to do this, do this and this, and then this will happen and i've done everything and you're leaving me out of the cold. it's extraordinary. ok. i mean, i've always said, you know, future historians will explain. let me go to our guest in berlin,
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but we need future psychologists to explain how this all happened. why so many meters would go against their own national interest? in the case you trade against it's old people go ahead and berlin. it's a, do you really need a psychologist for example, to when you watch a pull edition here in the west talking and you missing that this guy is lying or not? it's now i think we all want to have some kind of medication against. yeah, it's very obvious when they, when they speak about patio has been to speak about democracy when they speak about our way of life. we know they're lying about this case is we know that this issue is a, is a jump all to go conflict and do united states want to split and to draw a line in ukraine so that it cannot have economic good economic relations with german and with western europe, we know these things, but we are not speech, you're able to speak freely. look, i'm not german, i live here and every day,
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when i opened my letters i, i expect a letter from some courts here in germany because of some truth. maybe i made or maybe so i said something on the restaurant today because they follow everything. and they're coming after journalist and there are a prosecuting journalist. they're closing bank accounts. i mean, this is not the chuck. so this is not the about democracy, police to spare us this, the we're fighting for democracy and everything. because if, if this was about democracy, then to juice with herbs and ask you for us to become a demo democrats and not then the political parties and not to come after the church's debts and not to support neo nazi untie. same i groups. everyone, everyone here who has an opinion that's a different opinion on the work and your brand is framed as of car rides. about who's supporting the fire right? then ukraine, who's supporting video. now it's a good stream. your print is a fire right in gym and it's supporting them or it's the liberals and the compassionate. and this the rainbow flag, people are supporting them. it says,
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but it's alexander, this is such an interesting point because this whole narrative, the ukraine narrative generated in the west. obviously it is having huge detrimental damage on you're about to speak of the brain. but it's a very interesting strategy. don't you think to shut down the populace left and shut down the populace, right? and then it works very perfect wave. okay. we, we have the cold example we have now we have is, this is another exercise in being able to control political narratives and political outcomes. i would so absolutely. so when you're looking at countries like germany, for example, you even have on each law subject to me prohibited. so it doesn't look germany to be in favor of the special military operation in your brain. or you don't the
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author on both this comment on russian foreign policy and you're going to have some special speech law like in germany, for example, in austria, you don't pass the box. if you're looking at the mainstream media, you can see an audio slash like all the media or a whole, or you've been directly, there is no d a, for example, do your training on government persecuting? i'm the russian of the construction your brain. there's um, no predict um of your brain and government and so on, your trash or groups. um, i think don't mind oriented in your print, and it's really hard to be dr. joe from to think about that. most european government always when it's gone from $2.00 to $3.00 off on faster, has no national socialism say that's we have to come down to minutes. we have to bring them the prime spot is very small, like 2 days your brain to real new fashion. laura, re, um you're not citizen,
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they simply close their eyes and say, oh, just the blower. oh, i like, oh, good. the alexander that is it wednesday is a do they so there's no, they're no nazi find that this is child is thinking, this is absolutely the child was alexander, they did the same in syria when they supported this uh radical terrorist and who were, who were committed ethnic cleansing, they have to meet the general acts of genocide against them. i know they just in different places and this people who were called motivated rebels and now the same thing is happening in, in ukraine. so it's not about the facts, it's about what you push the propaganda into media and the kids this propaganda and you know, people believe, but i repeat this argument all the time. but you get a light to the people for a few weeks, probably for a few months, but after a year and now we're going to the 2nd year of this war, people can start kind emerge from the does spend that people can see that this is not the about the value is it's not about democracy, it's that right?
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that's kind of hide this on the sunshine forever. it would come up at one point, right. and it's happening now in your brain. and this is adding so much pressure on this evidence, the government because they have high expectations on the armed forces of your brain. but at the same time they, they, they are not supplying your plan with the amount of equipment every they need. but also we have the issue of the amend our, if you're on an offensive march, you wouldn't need at least 3 times more man power to succeed on the fit on, on the defensive stripe. so it's, it's just crazy. russia has 3 times more man power and not to print. how are they going to do it? so when i say we need peace then for you. ok, now i become a put in east unfortunately. and this has to be, this becomes the point. typically, this is the problem with the entire time of this conflict. there, there's been no narrative, no bush for peace, because the west is always pushing for victory. defeat by their rush. you must be
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defeated ukraine most with well is, is military people tell me peter, there is the military mat. you have to remember. and so ingrained it has very little, has 0 hope, but just be honest here. and one of the things that's happening, i'm glad that it could work above brought it up. the demographic devastation of ukraine is unbelievable. according to in the cleanings have been always fuzzy about their, their senses, their reports, because they're many people are leaving. and that was before the conflict. okay. now they're looking at a population half the size we had in 1991. ukraine quite literally is disappearing . yes. actually i remember at the beginning of the word they used to say uh no more airplanes are left from most of the post. everybody is running away from, from the country because they don't want to fight in this for. and now we know even the west and media says that they're capturing people from the straits. they're sending them for training comes for 5 days. and after the 5 days in your brain.
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yeah, yeah. and defending them to the fun science. if this is not the meat grinder, then what is it? they don't have the manpower if they are, if they, if they should come to their senses, they should strike a deal with the rush or they cannot arise from this bar. victoria's, you cannot windowworks when you, you don't have an energy independence period. but the problem, the problem is, alexander, is it, it's been framed as a moral crusade. and so that's what makes it so difficult. i mean, if this was about security, the indivisibility of security as determined by the helsinki acts, you know, i'm just, i don't want to be nearly here with you guys, but that's really the whole point. i mean, we'll, we want a situation where we're secure and you're secure, but the west says no, it either, there must be regime change and rush at full. you know, the russians have a say in the, the west never gives anyone any bill agency. they say their bikes, you know nothing about your brain without your credit,
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but it is nothing about your brain. it's about western hedge, a monic ambitions. go ahead. oh, exactly. yeah, exactly. um, the word problem is that the west does not to you and the other people, our civilization, which is not the west. it's human. so well, the west, every effort, again, every russian, every journey is just on the last 3 to all the democracy and to joseph brand. joseph barrow already told us this, you know, he lives in the guard and the rest of us live in the jungle. is that it works and business be um yeah. century sold um drop off the western and like ma'am, so that's the byron step to be civilized. and i guess the only thing now at the west at this um, like walkers, the um is bryan said, oh is actually um, destroying your brain and your brand new population always. but i'm trying to buy off all the not to the end result though. your brain by black rock,
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another company you cannot get to the 100 by the other bavarian spot, that the west and the lead other why re bavarian? so i guess the was the demo received um it tomorrow, and well, there's no more urgent matter and duration wide security architecture, which also includes russia, china, around, and other countries were actually on the list in order to create this table to jersey, to create a win win situation, and i know it's hard for them to imagine it in the west, but it's possible i truly believe it. it's all the time we have gentlemen, i want to thank my guest in berlin and in vienna. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are the see next time. remember all suckers, the
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hungary as being a member of the european union and nato since 1999 during the 1st post. so good wave of nato's eastwood expansion number to be sales because of the way log a sense is dylan. i felt that i see like that uh by now as a country it's a this is so me that me at if so we get back. i saw zap, i did do my i just bought the pre show is the name. yeah. it's the lawyers on the beach, but i see, but i see us by us by choice, some of which is strongly in the early ninety's hungry was a country with the west view of russia to day started of disagreements left over from the soviet union and the why do you, what, any, some on yours i'm going to go to. what i see if you're with you must somebody in the compare the police report more than those. what i see is great. and i did as a, it's a police degree though as much. but the,
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