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so we know that the log in favor of you cream is not united. we know we know that many countries are really criticizing this idea of giving a blank check to, to key if uh for all the crimes. uh that the company itself. so for all the actions, a lot of them uh, voice uh, preoccupation about the face of the weapons uh, delivered. so to ukraine. uh, there are a lot of indications that these, these weapons are small, little towns are being used elsewhere. so there are a lot of use, but it's up to these coalition to decide how they will face inevitable defeats over of key for your team, how they will say it will change that you and that's what moment. so it's up to them to do it. so what, what is necessary for us is to concentrate on our, our problems on our military strategy and our military campaign. the special needs are reputation against ukraine to implement all the goals that we've looked forward
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for our special be able to reputation that they think that we have the wants considerably these pos, uh you are in last time. thank you very much for your time and for sharing your insights into the situation rush as opposed to deputy and boss the to the un, dimitri plenty, honestly. thank you. thank you and thank you for joining us. say on all the international. plenty more of like this updates on the website dot com with this. hopefully. yeah. the the hello and welcome to the cross talk where all things are considered, i'm funeral about is the west propaganda war against pressure beginning to show graphs the military situation. your brain is being revealed is grim with anything
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approaching optimism, bathing. nonetheless, the by the administration in the inner parties, soldier on wasting ukrainian blood the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, covered on my son in berlin. he is standard seriana analysis and in be in and we have alexander my coverage. he is head of the surveyor of institute and being a gentleman, crossed up ro is in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i would appreciate it. alright, let's go to berlin. it's very interesting. over the last few new cycles, there seems to be some reviewing information if we can put it gently in the wall street journal was talking about how the by the administration knew that the counter offensive that was so hair on by the zalinski. and they can't breathe, shame that they had no real air covering anyone know isn't even knew what to i'm
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not a military person, but i know you don't go into a major conflict without any air cover to protect your troops in your, in your tanks and whatnot. here, this is an amazing admission on later part. it shows this is all about politics, an ideology, not about security, and certainly not about you train your thoughts a bit. there are some people who may think i'm exaggerating, but my heart, the brakes when i see all this for them, people in ukraine where they are with tens of thousands of ukrainians are dying in disputes grandeur. and i'm not exaggerating when i call it the meat grinder. i'm a political journalist, i followed the steering board ready to close the and i know what for the vacation means, and i know what mind the territories means. and in, in your credit, in the right now, this is, this is the most mind to tell your story in the word and the most secure talk if occasion in the work and the restaurant establish this a mind areas and default application. so in a way that ukraine would need
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a very strong part in various and they have to bomb the 4th. if occasions 4 weeks, at least we're talking about probably one to 2 months or 3 months of bumping up. but that's just for verification and area to cover before the attacking forces tended defense in the russian hill territories in, in ukraine. we haven't seen any of these. they pushed through your grade on for assist, introduced mich grinder and know the american press, acknowledges that at least 20 percent of the newly supplied hardware advance tanks that they provide up to your grade are destroyed. and let's be honest picture. if the american press this 20 percent, you can multiply that to 2 or 3 that's, that's like they're trying to do a narrative management. right? because a very good example of that, there was some news reports over the last few new cycle south, a few 1000 rifles when missing a few 1000 grenades with mistakes,
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which we all know is a cover story for mass the best of this military hardware. so you're absolutely right, let me go to alexander. alexander becomes more and more obvious that um the, the bites in ministration is in different to the, to the casualties and the economic destruction. not only of ukraine, but where you tend to me and live in europe. yeah, you are totally right for the buying this dress. she there's all the wars just about geology about she was so beautiful and, and they don't give a damn about the people living in europe. all the people living in your train, we are just on track figures for them which day you can move, that will. and therefore you have, of course, is catastrophic loss of drugs. um, you go down, take it for granted. if it would be about the american soldiers type thing,
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they're in your brain on the divide, that ministration would never risk huge loss numbers. and i guess also the bottom administration, you would not be ready to risk un enormous economic recession, which is taking place in europe. right now, because of these back to war against russia. and the far of course is um, not about us caring for europe or protecting us from sole goal, russian aggression. but they simply run through um, ice cold on their side or their own. um global is the agenda as far as their own portfolio. and this is the only reason why it is more, is ronnie, your job is to the bottom. if it is fresh, you will just be really interested in. it goes up to your brain and then the bill of 0 been, they won't have stopped this war last year in april when it was possible. and then
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last year, you know, and that's exactly where i wanted to go exactly to the, let me go back to government in, in, in berlin. that me, what alexander was getting to is really at the heart of all of this is in the west, particularly the united states and the u. k. had wanted to see a resolution to accomplish it should have never happened in the 1st place. they had an opportunity and assemble and they walked away from it. and as a result, why would the russians engage with the same players for some kind of resolution? they have no reason to be. yeah. oh, cool. up in north seen pipeline. oh, cool. a sabotage. they, the blacks, the green initiative, it's the west that has done this repeatedly. i have read account after account of accounts about the blacks a grain initiative. the russians walked away from it, but nobody explains why. go ahead and berlin it or they didn't all the walk away from the negotiations in late 20 in late february 2022 and early to april 2020
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attribute. there was a 2022 the if there was a big opportunity to sign a piece the and the okay. and do united states sold the ukrainians that you're not allowed to sign on? decided we're going to give you all the weapons and ammunition that you need to continue despite and what i thought of, there's nothing about your grade without you pray the notes, but now who run out of, i mean it sion we have in july and late july 2023 and they are now with knowledge and that they, they have to supply these to a different type of weapons. now the costs are bumps to your plan because they have an out of, i mean, nation. what happened is very, very oddly especially with the north st pipeline. last, they didn't only withdrawal from the negotiations, but they blew up and all the same pipelines because they knew that jim many was suffered economically and they knew that germany was suffered on an energy sector. therefore, they know that germany tend back off on a later stage and disoriented support to a to, to your grades. therefore,
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they blew up, but look it up. so that's germany stays in this war till the end. and no, unfortunately, i would say germany is a hostage for this pro, and i live in germany and i hope the german government wants to come after me. first thing this, but they're hosted for this, but this is not, they were in ukraine. and i'm just reminded by this famous quote to be america's and it made can be dangerous, but to be america spent is faithful and it's happening in front of our eyes every day. and people still say, oh, but we have to save you. ok. i don't understand why a person like me sitting here in berlin. nobody asked myopia and why should i fund this for it's, i'm paying for all the bills out of sky. look at the cheer and the salaries are the same. but the people are waking up and that's why when you see the polls, they're building coalition, which is the tool. bigger parties are the social democrats and the greens. they have less points. then if be the 5 i school and the people are
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increasingly supporting the if the for the associated going on make situation. and because of the ukraine works, and if there is an early election now the a, if the, could we, even on the table on the macros part the, if they mobilize themselves. but, but you know, it's going to happen. nobody would form the correlation with the figure out there. this data may just be model like they did in sweden. they would not let the major part the do. they would work the coalition around it. yeah. out like center. but it's, it's very interesting with the us, them bull process was brought up. i want our viewers to understand what was being discussed that assembled last year. there's a lensky regime was being asked to give up whether it did not have the donald bass and crimea. they were, they, they didn't have control of it, they weren't. so we're just the, with the, with the rest of us. like look, you don't have control of it, sign this. and then we would health possibilities. and that one's
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a great deal. a deal big ukraine will never get again, as we all know. oh, it's in there. as long as it's the same as you there basically had a big chunk, red box it. unfortunately, they were over ruled by banking those days on board, as johnson, and do not have to then as all the parts do not have that, no one wants to prolong this conflict. we want to avoid russia. um, as a result. and yeah, therefore we are now at this very moment where the united states, um, don't pass um any regular. i certainly understand the more you send it to your brain. this is the reason why they are sending plaster balls to your grade. so in order that um does human history and discovery even rolls and explodes even more and i guess if they are um accelerating the conflict of this, right, they roll sooner or later on. most of them are 5 projects, maybe and um,
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use other measures to in order to prolong this conflict and they could do them long . yeah. and did you are looking up the car and um, gosh, in poland now or even planning on just standard, combine wirelessly for engine boys to bring in order to prolong something. so i really hope that, um, some people in your prompt to do faxes especially well in the 2nd half of the program, i wanna ask that to hear opinions why you can't come to your senses. but since we're, we're talking about the escalation, lot of the work, let me go to you back in berlin. i don't believe in this f. 16 minutes. i don't i, i think it's a lot of top. i don't think they're ever going to send them the timeline gets pushed burger and further in the future. you know why my friend? because they're burned like any other plane in over the air in the air space. so do you great in west or arms manufacturers? no, and how do you sell an f, 16 or an f?
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whatever, when it can be easily shut down by current technology, russian technology, they won't send them because they're afraid they'll burn. go ahead. it's a, if you remember just a few weeks ago, there was this a big type about the tanks. trade in the upper, it's afraid of banks here in barely. and you found out the chance very old. this the people who want to go to your grand to 5, but demanding good, the gym and government to supply this weapon or the to the ukraine insights. and we told them back then ophelia per it's $102030.00. they're not going to change the equation. we know this in our 1st time in syria, it left winter to use this new approach. they will all smashed by device from floor to this very quickly. we know it's been the 1st experience we have seen them. and now this all this talk about the, the f. 16. ok, let's suppose ukraine has an f. 16 now. where are they gonna operate the steps? 16. all their inputs can be bumped and they can, they can go,
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not operational. are they going to the still air strip in ukraine that can support it? they don't have any maintenance crew to support it. how they're going to get to munitions there for nobody knows. this is again, that's why it's all media propaganda. finish up before we go to the break, go ahead. maybe they're going to use the police, the, it's the to, to as an operational point or, or the part of the who's who has more names here. ok. has a poll holes, one class, the back of the old former land, then the premiums can take a hand out it and then they're then in central of your brain, the say, well, we're going to go with russia. good job, joe. you just eliminated ukraine as a sovereign state dental, and i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on your brain. stay with rp. the take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just
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a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the the welcome ice crush dock where all things are considered. i'm peter though, this is
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a home editions remind you. we're discussing some real minutes. the okay, i want to go at the vendor in vienna. you said, you know when somebody in europe, thomas did her senses. tell me more ran because i've been waiting for that. i, i really like it's devastating to see the democracy deposition in europe when it comes to this topic because i know many people in europe that have been on this program, but it says i have to take a pass because i'm afraid. so, you know, it's a speech issue, it's a democracy issue. this is an extraordinary thing. and i thought these were a role based order countries and they weren't at sporting their model to the rest of the world. it's full of contradictions. go ahead. yeah, definitely. so, what is your new mazda lucy? what is mean based auto to the west virginia boston, just need you to read,
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you know, other tools to allow to ensure famous products, generalizing. and i guess if you are looking right now, a lot of european governments may be drawn, may be involved in our ultimate spin austria. this is a blow, slowly realizing that this war is not level for euro. and therefore there's some all have to change their strategy in the back to then it's very interesting that over the course of the last week to do some i'll change and don't know speeches off wherever you as well as the leaders. for example, the object president bubble comes to my mind. it's all to learn more or less directly, but just now it's time slot ranging until the end of 2023. and if it's not, if you're not able to achieve the results of who's gone through the bank, but then that will be actually thought between the us and russia on
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the thread. this conflict. and like, as bob believe, not the only european um, the usa hard longer. i mean, he's not soft on rush, the warmer and you need a nato commander. i mean, they, he probably knows something here, but i think it's, it's really quite a, you know, i've been, applies to both of you. i've been watching this laser focused on this, but i have to say, and i think people are going to attack me for saying it's been so wednesday was the only one that made any logical status in build this. ok. i mean, you said you did do this, do this and this, and this will happen and i've done everything and you're leaving me out of the cold . it's extraordinary. ok. i mean the i've always said, you know, future historians will explain. let me go to our guest in berlin, but we need future psychologist to explain how this all happened. why so many meters would go against their own national interest? in the case you prayed against that. so people go ahead and berlin. do you really
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need a psychologist? for example, to when you go to pull edition here in the west talking and you missing that this guy is lying or not. it's merely think we all want to have some kind of medication against. yeah, it's very obvious when they, when they speak about value is when they speak about democracy, when they speak about our way of life. we know they're lying about this case is we know that this issue is a, is a job with a good conflict. and united states want to split and to draw a line in ukraine so that it cannot have economic good economic relations to be terminated with western europe. we know these things, but we're nuts, teacher able to speak freely. look, i'm not german, i live here and every day when i opened my letters i, i expect a letter from some courts here in germany because of some truth. maybe i made or maybe so i said something on the restaurant today because they follow everything.
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and they're coming after journalist and there are a prosecuting journalist, they're closing bank accounts. i mean, this is not the job. so this is not the about democracy, please. the spare us this the we are pricing for democracy and everything. because if, if this was about democracy, then you should urge that ask you for us to become a demo democrats and not then the political parties and not to come after the church's debts and not to support neo nazi untie, say mighty groups. everyone. everyone here who has an opinion that's a different opinion on the work and your brand is framed as a car, right. but who is supporting the far right thing? ukraine? who's supporting the neo nazi groups in your credit is a far right in germany, supporting them, or it's the liberals and the compassionate. and this the rainbow flag, people are supporting them. it says, but it's alexander, this is such an interesting point because this whole narrative, the ukraine narrative generated in the west. obviously it is having huge
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detrimental damage on you're about to speak of the brain. but it's a very interesting strategy. don't you think to shut down the populace left and shut down the populace, right? and then it works very perfectly. okay we, we have the cobit example we have now. we have is, this is another exercise in being able to control political narratives and political outcomes. i would say um, absolutely. so when you're looking at countries like germany, for example, would you even have my own speech law which actually prohibited the citizens of germany. um to be in favor of the special military operation in your brain? are you the author on both of this comment on russian foreign policy? and if you're going to have some special speech law locked in germany, for example, in austria, you don't have the box. if you're looking at the mainstream media,
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you can see all the life cycle, all the media or a whole, or you've been directly, there is no for g. a, for example, the training on government persecuting on the russian alphabet stretching your brain. there's um, no drum of your brain and government then. so you trash or groups on the hopping down man oriented your brain. and it's really hard to because you have um to think about that most european government always when it's gone from 2 to 3 off on fast, there's no national supposedly that's we have to come down to the maintenance. we have to bring them to a prime spot is that are now like today in your brain to re new fashions. nora, really, you're not using. they simply closed their eyes and say, oh, just the blower. oh, i like, oh, good. the alexander that is a wednesday is a do they? so there's no, they're no nazi find that this is child is thinking,
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this is absolutely the child was alexander, they did the same in syria when they supported this. uh, the filter is that who were, who were committed ethnic cleansing, they have to meet the general acts of genocide against the minority just in different places. and this people were cause moderate rebels. and now the same thing is happening in, in ukraine. so it's not about the facts, it's about what you push the propaganda into media and the kids this propaganda and you know, people believe, but i repeat this argument all the time. but you got a light to the people for a few weeks, probably for a few months, but after a year and now we're going through the 2nd year of this war. people can start kind emerge from the task that people can see that this is not the about the value is it's not about democracy. it's right, that's kind of hide this on the sunshine forever. it would come up at one point, right. and it's happening now in your brain, and this is adding so much pressure on this evidence be government because they
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have high expectations on the armed forces of your brain. but at the same time they did, they are not supplying to create and with the amount of weapon to be they need. but also we have the issue of the men power. if you're on an offensive march, you wouldn't need at least 3 times more man power to succeed on the fit on, on the defensive stripe. so it's, it's just crazy. russia has 3 times more man power and not ukraine. how are they going to do it? so when i say we need to stand for you, ok, now i become a put in east unfortunately. and this has to be, this becomes the point. typically, this is the problem with the entire time of this conflict. there, there's been no narrative, no bush for peace, because the west is always pushing for victory. defeat by an airy rush. you must be defeated ukraine most with well is, is military people tell me, peter, there is the military mat. you have to remember. and so ingrained it has very little has 0 hope, but just be honest here. and one of the things that's happening,
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i'm glad that it could work above, brought it out. the demographic devastation of ukraine is unbelievable. according to in the cleanings have been always fuzzy about their, their senses, their reports because they're many people are leaving and that was before the conflict. okay. now they're looking at a population half the size we had in 1991. ukraine quite literally is disappearing . yes, actually i remember at the beginning of the word they used to say uh, no more airplanes are left from most of the post. everybody is running away from, from the country because they don't want to fight in this for. and now we know even the west and media says that they are capturing people from the straits. they're sending them to training comes for 5 days. and after the 5 days, can you great? yeah, yeah. and defending them to the fun science. if this is not the meat grinder, then what is it? they don't have the manpower if they are, if they, if they should come to their senses, they should strike
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a deal with the rush or they cannot arise from this bar. victoria's, you cannot win a war when you, you don't have an energy independence period. but the problem, the problem is, alexander, is it, it's been framed as a moral crusade. and so that's what makes it so difficult. i mean, if this was about security, the indivisibility of security as determined by the helsinki acts, you know, i'm just, i don't want to be dirty here with you guys. but that's really the whole point. i mean, we'll, we want a situation where we're secure and you're secure, but the west says no, it either, there must be regime change in rush at full. you know, the russians have a say in the, the west never gives anyone any bill agency. they say they're like, you know, nothing about your brain without your credit, but it is nothing about your brain. it's about western and hedge. a monic ambitions . go ahead. oh, exactly. yeah, exactly. um, the word problem is that the west, it does not to you and the other people, our civilization, which is not the west,
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and that's human. so well the west, every effort. then every russian, every chinese is just on one, was there last to resolve the democracy and to joseph brand. joseph barrow already told us this, you know, he lives in the guard and the rest of us live in the jungle. he said it works and business be um yeah. century sold um drop off. uh, western in like ma'am, so that's the buyer. you have to be there a lot and i guess the only thing now is the west at the um like walkers. the um is bryan said, oh actually um, destroying your brain and your brand new population already. so i'm trying to buy off all the natural resources of your brain by black rock. another company, you've done that into the 100 by nauseous bavarian spot that the west and the li otherwise we bavarian. so i guess the demo we finished um it's tomorrow and well,
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there's no um, more urgent matter and duration wide security architecture, which also includes russia, china, around, and other countries were actually on the list in order to create this table to jersey, to create a win win situation, and i know it's hard for them to imagine in the west, but it's possible i truly believe it. it's all the time we have gentlemen, i want to thank my guest in berlin and indiana. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our the see next time. remember prospect because the cities grow and land is develop. the problem is presented. how do we protect our nature and the unique animal that lives here is a cox's nature reserve where they are cultivating an innovative program to release
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