tv Cross Talk RT July 26, 2023 8:30pm-9:01pm EDT
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soldier on wasting ukrainian blood, the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess. good luck on my son in berlin. he is sandra seriana analysis and in band, and we have alexander, my cobit, he is head of the board of institute and being a gentleman crossed up rolls and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want, and i would appreciate it. alright, let's go to berlin. it's very interesting. over the last few new cycles, there seems to be some reviewing information if we can put it gently into the wall street journal, was talking about how the, by the ministration knew that the counter offensive bed that was so hair on by the wednesday. and they can't be shame that they had no real air cover in anyone know, it's any new it to i'm not a military person, but i know you don't go into a major conflict without any air covered to protect your troops in your,
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in your tanks and whatnot, here, this is an amazing admission on their part. it shows this is all about politics, an ideology, not about security, and certainly not about you train your thoughts a bit or some people may think i'm exaggerating, but my heart, the brakes when i see all this for them, people in ukraine where they are with tens of thousands of ukrainians are dying in disputes grandeur and i'm not exaggerating when i call it the meat grinder. i'm a political journalist, i followed the steering board ready to close the and i know what fortification means, and i know what mind the territories means. and in, in your credit, in the right now, this is, this is the most mind to tell your story and the word and the most secure talk if occasion into work and the restaurant establish this a mine areas and deep worked if occasions in a way that ukraine would need a very strong part deliveries, and they have to bump the 4th if occasions for weeks, at least we're talking about probably one to 2 months or 3 months of bumping up.
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but that's just for verification and area to cover before the attacking for suspended defense in the russian hill territory is in, in ukraine. we haven't seen any of this be pushed through your grade on for assist input. this meets grinder and know the american press, acknowledges that at least 20 percent of the newly supplied hardware advance tanks that they provide up to your grade are destroyed. and let's be honest picture. if the american press says 20 percent, you can multiply that to 2 or 3 that's, that's like they're trying to do a narrative management. right? because a very good example of that there was some news reports over the last few new cycle . so a few 1000 rifles went missing a few 1000 grenades with mistakes, which we all know is a cover story for mass,
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the best of this military hardware. so you're absolutely right. let me go to alexander. alexander becomes more and more obvious that from the, the bites in ministration is in different to the, to the casualties and the economic destruction. not only of ukraine, but where you tend to me and live in europe. yeah, you are totally right for the buying this dress. she is all the war is just about geology about she was so beautiful. i'm good and they don't give a damn about the people living in europe. all the people living in your tray, we are just on track, so it goes for them which day to move that will, ends down for you, as of course, is catastrophic losses. drugs, um, you go down, take it for granted. if it would be a 1000 american soldiers type thing, they're in your brain on the divide, the space, you would never risk huge loss numbers. and i guess also define this
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race. you would not be ready to risk un enormous economic recession, which is taking place in europe right now because of these back to laws against russia and the formal scores. it's um, not about us caring for euro or protecting us from so called russian regression. but they simply one through, um i sold on this starter their own. um global is the agenda a little far as their own powerful. and this is the only reason why this war is the ronnie. the just the bottom. if it is fresh, you will just be really interested in advance of your brand. and then the bill of 0 been they won't have stopped this war last year in april when it was possible. and then right here, you know, and that's exactly where i wanted to go. exactly. let me go back to,
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cuz i've been in, in, in berlin the me, what else anyways, getting to, is really at the heart of all of this is in the west, particularly the united states and the u. k. had wanting to see a resolution to accomplish that should have never happened in the 1st place. they had an opportunity and assemble and they walked away from it. and as a result, why would the russians engage with the same players for some kind of resolution? they have no reason to be. yeah, a little up to north st pipeline. oh, cool. a sabotage. they the black sea green initiative. it's the west. it is down this repeatedly. i brush account after account of account about the blacks a grain initiative. the russians walked away from it, but nobody explains why. go ahead and berlin it or they didn't all the walk away from the negotiations in late 20, in late february 2022 and early to april 2020 attribute. there was a 2022. the if there was a big opportunity to sign a p, c, and d, okay,
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and do united states sold the ukrainians that you're not allowed to sign on? decided we're going to give you all the weapons and ammunition that you need to continue despite. and what i thought of is nothing about ukraine without you pray, the smoke, but no good on out of, i mean it sion we have in july and late july 2023 and they are now with knowledge and that they, they have to supply these to a different type of weapons. now the costs are bumps to your grand because they have an out of, i mean, nation. what happened is very, very oddly, especially with the north st pipeline. plus they didn't only withdrawal from the negotiations, but they blew up the north st. pipelines because they knew that jim and he would suffer economically and they knew that germany was suffered on an energy sector. therefore, they know that germany tend back of a later stage and disoriented support to a to, to your grades. therefore, they blew up, but look it up. so that's germany stays in this war till the end. and no, unfortunately, i would say germany is
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a hostage for this pro. and i live in germany and i hope the german government wants to come after me. first thing this, but they're hosted for this, but this is not they were in ukraine and i'm just reminded by this famous quote to be america's and it made can be dangerous, but to be america spent is faithful and it's happening in front of our eyes. every day and people still say, oh, but we have to save you ok. i don't understand why a person like me sitting here in berlin. nobody asked myopia and why should i fund this for it's, i'm paying for all the bills out of sky. look at the cheer and the salaries are the same, but the people are waking up. and that's why when you see the polls, they're building coalition, which is the to bigger parties, are the so special democrats and the greens. they have less points. then if be the 5 i school and the people are increasingly supporting day if the for the associated
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going on make situation. and because of the ukraine works, and if there is an early election now the a, if the, could we, even on the table on the macros part the, if they mobilize themselves. but, but you know, it's going to happen. nobody would form a coalition with a figure out and they were basically and may just be model like they did in sweden . they would not let the major part the do. they would work a coalition around it. yeah. out like center a, it's, it's very interesting with the simple process was brought up. i want our viewers to understand what was being discussed that assembled last year. there's a lensky regime was being asked to give up whether it did not have the double bass and crimea. they were, they, they didn't have control of it. they weren't. so we're just the, with the, with the rest of us. like, look, you don't have control of it, sign this, and then we health possibilities and that one's a great deal. a deal big ukraine will never get again, as we all know alex and as long as it's the same as you, they basically have
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a big chunk thread, bump slick. unfortunately, there are over roads, but back in those days, um morris johnson and do not have to then, as all the stores do not have to, no one wants to prolong this conflict. we want to avoid russia, pets, and we go and therefore we are now at this very moment where the united states, i don't have any regular artillery, i'm edition anymore. just send it to your friend. this is the reason why they are sending gloucester balls to your brain. so in order that um does human mystery and this operate even rolls and explodes even more. and i guess if they are um accelerating the conflict of this right, they roll sooner or later. um, most of them are 5 projects maybe and um use other measures in order to prolong this conflict then they could do the lot. yeah. and did you on looking up the car
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in the discussion in poland or even planning, i'm just trying to combine wirelessly for engine boys to bring in order to prolong something. so i really hope that i'm some people in your phone to do faxes, especially well in the 2nd half the program, i want to ask the to hear opinions why you can't come to your senses. but since we're, we're talking about the escalation lab work, let me go to you back in berlin. i don't believe in this f. 16 minutes. i don't i, i think it's a lot of talk. i don't think they're ever going to send them. the timeline gets pushed, burglary further in the future. you know why my friend? because they're burned like any other plane in over the air in the air space. so if you grade in western arms, manufacturers know, and how do you sell and f, 16 or an f, whatever. when it can be easily shot down by current technology, russian technology, they won't send them because they're, they're afraid they'll burn. go ahead. it's a, if you remember just
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a few weeks ago, there was this a big type about the tax free. the leo birds afraid of banks here in barely. and you found out the trance, very old. this, the people who want to go through your parental fight, but the amending good, the gym and government to supply this weapon or the, to the ukraine insights. and we told them back then a few layer per, it's $102030.00. they're not going to change the equation. we know this in our 1st time in syria, it left winter to use this new york roads. they will all smashed by device from floor to this very quickly. we know it's been the 1st experience we have seen them . and now this all this talk about the, the f. 16. ok. let's suppose ukraine has an f. 16 now. where are they gonna operate the steps? 16. all their inputs can be bumped and they can, they can go, not operational, are they going to the air strip in ukraine that can support it?
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they don't have any maintenance crew to support it of how they're going to get to munitions there for nobody knows. this is again, that's why it's all media propaganda. finish up before we go to the break, go ahead. maybe they're going to use the police that the, it's the to, to as an operational point or, or the part of the sales who's, who has more names here. ok. has a poll, the polls, one class, the back of old former land. then the premiums can take a hand out it, and then they're then in central of your brain to say, well, we're going to go with russia. good job, joe, you're just eliminated ukraine as a sovereign state dental. and i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine states without the
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the city's growth and land has developed. the problem is presented. how do we protect our nature and the unique animals that live here? this is a cox's nature reserve where they are cultivating an innovative program to release into the wild bunch on thomas vision and vision. and today we are on the mountain. so process the, the, the issue right now, the distance of the, so that's the series pulling it for you and you have them by see it the display of this, of the, if i hit stop to but even the way needs. yeah. you're saying you missed us and you
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the see. go to the, to those him, but things go mental village doesn't notice we are gambling with the future of all mankind and we're, we're risking it for not the the are welcome across the dock were all things are considered. i'm peter though, this is a home addition to remind you, we're discussing some rooms. the ok, i want to go back to alexander in vienna. you said, you know when somebody in your thomas did her senses tell me more ran because i've been waiting for that. i, i really like it's devastating to see the democracy deposition in europe when it
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comes to this topic because i know many people in europe that have been on this program, but it says i have to take a pass because i'm afraid. so, you know, it's a speech issue, it's a democracy issue. this is an extraordinary thing. and i thought these were a role based order, a country, so they were ex, forwarding their model to the rest of the world. it's full of contradictions. go ahead. yeah, definitely. so what is your adviser listening? uh, what is mean based on the, to the west virginia boston, just need you to read. you know, other teams don't alter, ensure famous products, generalizing. and i guess if you're looking right now a lot, if you're a big government, may be drawn base, be invalid, our ultimate spin, austria, a good blow, slowly realizing that this war is not level for euro and the fall, do somehow have to change their strategy in the back to then it's very interesting
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that over the course of the last week or so i'll change and don't know speeches off wherever you as well as the leaders. for example, the object president bubble comes to my mind, who go to learn more or less directly back just now it's time slot ranging until the end of 2023. and if it's not, if you're not able to achieve the results of who's gone through the bank, then that will be um, actually thought between the us and russia allowed to end this conflict. and i guess probably not the only european um, the use a hard line there. i mean, he's not soft on russia. the former, you need a nato commander. i mean a, he probably knows something here, but i think it's, it's really quite a, you know, i've been like the both of you. i've been watching this laser focused on this,
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but i have to say, and i think people are going to attack me for saying it's been so wednesday was the only one that made any logical sense in bill this. ok, i mean, you said, did you do this, do this and this and this will happen and i've done everything and you're leaving me out of the cold. it's extraordinary. ok. i mean the other i've always said, you know, future historians will explain. let me go to our guest in berlin, but we need future psychologist to explain how this all happened. why so many meters would go against their own national interest? in the case you prayed against that. so people go ahead and berlin. do you really need a psychologist? for example, to when you board triple edition here in the west talking and you missing that this guy is lying or not. it's now i think we all want to have some kind of medication against. yeah, it's very obvious when they, when they speak about value is when they speak about democracy, when they speak about our way of life. we know they're lying about this case is we
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know that this issue is a, is a jewel politic of conflict. and united states want to split and to draw a line in ukraine so that it cannot have economic good economic relations which emanated with western europe. we know these things, but we're not picture able to speak freely. look, i'm not german, i live here and every day when i opened my letters i, i expect a letter from some court here in jim and he because of some truth, maybe i made or maybe so i said something on the restaurant today because they follow everything and they're coming after journalist and there are a prosecuting journalist, they're closing bank accounts. i mean, this is not the job. so this is not the about democracy. police a spare us this the, we're fighting for democracy and everything. because if, if this was about democracy, then you should birds and ask you for us to become a demo democrats and not then the political parties and not to come after the church as debts and not to support neo nazi untie. same i groups. everyone,
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everyone here who has an opinion that's a different opinion on the work in your plan is framed as a car, right? but who is supporting the far right thing? ukraine? who's supporting the neo nazi groups in your credit is a far right in germany, supporting them or it's the liberals and the compassionate. and this the rainbow flag, people are supporting them. it says it's alexandria. this is such an interesting point because this whole narrative, the ukraine narrative generated in the west. obviously it is having huge detrimental damage on you're about to speak of your brain. but it's a very interesting strategy. don't you think to shut down the populace left and shut down the populace, right? and then it works very perfectly. okay we, we have the cold example we have now. we have is, this is another exercise in being able to control political narratives and political outcomes. i would say um,
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absolutely. so when you're looking at countries like germany, for example, you even have own speech loss which actually prohibited the citizens of germany to be in favor of the special military operation in your brain. are you the author on both this comment on russian foreign policy? and if you don't have some special speech law like in germany, for example, in austria, you don't have the box. if you're looking at the mainstream media, you can see all this life cycle, all the media a whole are the same, everything. there is no for d. i a, for example, the training on government for seducing i'm the russian of the construction your brain. there's um, no predict um of your brain and government then. so you trash or groups. um, i think don't mind oriented in your brain. and it's really hard to because you have
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um to think about that. most european government always when it's drawn from $2.00 to $3.00 off on fast, there's no national socialist pay that's we have to go down to statements. we have to bring them the prime spot is very small, like today in your brain to really use ashes. nora, really you're not using. they simply closed their eyes and say, oh, just the blower. oh, i like, oh good. the alexander that is a wednesday is a do they? so there's no, they're no nazi find that this is child is thinking, this is absolutely the child was alexander, they did the same in syria when they supported this uh radical terrorist who were, who were committed ethnic cleansing. they have to meet the general acts of genocide against the minority just in different places. and this people were called motivated rebels. and now the same thing is happening in, in ukraine. so it's not about the facts, it's about what you push the propaganda into media and the kids this propaganda and
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you know, people believe, but i repeat this argument all the time. but you got a light to the people for a few weeks, probably for a few months, but after a year and now we're going through the 2nd year of this war. people can start kind emerge from the task that people can see that this is not the about the value is it's not about democracy. it's right, that you kind of hide this on the sunshine forever. it would come up at one point, right. and it's happening now in your brain, and this is adding so much pressure on this evidence be government because they have high expectations on the arm forces of your brain. but at the same time they did, they are not supplying to create and with the amount of weapon to be they need. but also we have the issue of the amend power. if you're on an offensive march, you wouldn't need at least 3 times more man power to succeed on the fit on, on the defensive stripe. so it's, it's just crazy. russia has 3 times more man power and not ukraine. how are they
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going to do it? so when i say we need to stand for you, ok, now i become a put in east unfortunately. and this has to be, this becomes the point. typically, this is the problem with the entire time of this conflict. there, there's been no narrative, no bush for peace, because the west is always pushing for victory. defeat by their rush. you must be defeated ukraine most with well is, is military people. tell me, peter, there is the military mass. you have to remember and so ingrained it has very little has 0 hope, but just be honest here. and one of the things that's happening, i'm glad that it could work above brought it out. the demographic devastation of ukraine is unbelievable. according to in the agreements have been always fuzzy about their, their senses, their reports, because there are many people are leaving and that was before the conflict. ok, now they're looking at a population how the songs they had in 1991 ukraine quite literally is disappearing
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. yes. actually i remember at the beginning of the word they used to say uh no more airplanes are left from most of the post. everybody is running away from, from the country because they don't want to fight in this for. and now we know even the west and media says that they are capturing people from the straits. they're sending them to training, comes for 5 days. and after 5 days, can you great? yeah, yeah. and defending them to the fun science. if this is not the meat grinder, then what is it? they don't have the manpower if they are, if they, if they should come to their senses, they should strike a deal with the rush or they cannot arise from this bar. victoria's, you cannot win a war when you are, you don't have an energy independence period. but the problem, the problem is, alexander, is it, it's been framed as a moral crusade. and so that's what makes it so difficult. i mean, if this was about security, the indivisibility of security as determined by the helsinki acts, you know,
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i'm just, i don't want to be nerdy here with you guys. but that's really the whole point. i mean, we'll, we want a situation where we're secure and you're secure, but the west says no, it either, there must be regime change and rush at full. you know, the russians have a say and the west never gives anyone any bill agency. they say they're like, you know, nothing about your brain without your credit, but it is nothing about your brain. it's about western and hedge. a monic ambitions . go ahead. oh, exactly. yeah, exactly. and the worry problem is that the west does not to you. and the other people, our civilization, which is not to west, it's human. so well the west, every, every gun, every russian, every jamie, is just on the line was through last to resolve the democracy. and john, joseph brand, joseph. the ro already told us this, you know, he lives in the guard and the rest of us live in the jungle. he said friends are those words. and this is the, um, yeah, actually sold um drop off uh,
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western enlightenment so that the buyer is going to be the last. and i guess the only thing now is the west at the, um, like walker, as the um, as is bryan said, oh is actually um, just throwing your brain and your brand new population already. so i'm trying to buy off all the natural result though. your brain by black rock, another company. you've done that into the 100 by nauseous bavarian spot that the west and the li otherwise we bavarian. so i guess the demo we finished um this morning and well there's no um more urgent than ever. um your ration wide security architecture, which also includes russia, china, around, and other countries. we're actually, um, you know, in order to create disable jersey to create a win win situation. and i know it's hard for them to imagine it in the west,
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but it's possible. i truly believe it, it's all the time we have gentlemen, i want to thank my guest in berlin and indiana. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are the see next time. remember prospect because the the to do. thank god let's and that's what they keep it as the spot and they will move to florida. yeah. cuz i was online with a gun that are available that were you well, but i'm here but the ability to store my one, but i think now i think i think enough for me to send them. yeah, i'm sure it's not that you of the doors must
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