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on the what we want espn and espn 2 sure to the other part of the world as we are in the humans. we loved music. we loved to live as as the other people and we, i have a piece for the nation. the choir is made up of around 60 boys and goals, age age 218 from bethlehem and heavy. that's exactly a big number. but they represent 3000000 palestinians living in the west bank and more than 2000000 others from gather wires on wash. meaning they have, they have always coming from the heart of the mailing stimulus, ration and c horns to resonate and sending waves across the world,
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raising awareness about their daily hardship research at all to from palestine revival militants, a policy refugee camp in 11 on our roof. literally reached a piece of the following 2 days of classes left at least 6 people that the incident occurred in the countries largest refugee camp for passing is near the southern port cities sit on the line and supposedly broke out between opposing minutes in groups within the facility often the power success of nations have left and i mean 10 did us and that i'll go into you an estimate. there are more than 50000 people living in the camp list and this is right on how to put in the number. did they res, continue selling and or, or do we known as last night? we couldn't sleep. there is a state of fear and panic among the patients. can hear the sound of gunfire
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constitute day and night was a nolan capital may have been a feast for the eyes of the thousands of delegates who definitive awesome petersburg for the russian half of the summit last week. for the city's restaurants will often have special fees for the stomachs of locals as well. we wanted to try the national, closing of the visits is, or the nice it is the picture of the $63.00 african, the,
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the topping games of the african field. so is the media to be so we have the idea and then decided to put this new menu in every restaurant. we thought for a very long time and looked at all the information. so we can learn more about african dishes to realize that african cause a is a lot different than russian. so we decided to mix it up and combine the 2 good things together. so everyone can enjoy the and the price is not bad as
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these are very nice. and i think this is applicant to button the aids resonates with as well. now the wave is only gaining momentum. and now for these getting interesting, maybe this will lead to some seasonal african menu. most of the dining. this goes specifically for the african assessments. it is very interesting that the guests would just come to us and hear about the african menu. oh, make a surprise space and african menu. what is it? it's at least something interesting. therefore, it doesn't just pass by or guess a scientific breakthrough on the world called the continent. russian researches and i am proud to have grown a harvest of women's with social technology that could eventually be used for a long time, exploration, be on our planet. now the fruits are normal size each way up to one killer
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kilogram. they were calculated with the kind of hydroponics system using what's of a but in a specialized clean house at the bus stop research that the project has been on the way for 3 years. and the team was ready mass of a dozens of varieties of vegetables as little as small size and peppers. they are currently researching ways of a compass and varies the know how come could facilitate and potential loans. the missions on the moon or even mars. well, that was a very interesting story for sure, but rob, some of this is out, we'll be back up and some of the most actually is due to in a 2nd. the, [000:00:00;00]
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the with the end of world war one, the movement for indian independence from the british empire flared up with renewed vigor. the british responded to the growth of the national liberation movement with arrest and brutal violence. repression cause active resistance. in march 9 d 9, seen at the call of my heart, my god, a peaceful strike began in the country. but the british responded with a new round of violence and far bade the indians to gather more than 4 people on the day of the sea bass. at t festivals, a huge crowd of civilians gathered in the center of the city of i'm the start in
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northern india seeing base as outright defiance. general reginald dyer gave the order to open fire on the, on our people. the barbaric execution claimed the lives of at least 379 indians, including 40 children, the youngest of who was 6 weeks old. the indian national congress considered the official figures to be underestimated and announced the death of more than $1000.00 civilians. the well known greatest newspaper, the morning post called dyre. the man who saved india gave him a sword and 26000 pounds sterling as a token of gratitude for the massacre. the amorous dar massacre went down in history as one of the most brutal crimes of the british invaders, and only escalated the affair. struggle of the indians for liberation from the colonial yoke.
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the course has changed. wisdom disappears and the name is of the most. i'm not in the computer, which is obviously due to the controllers gladstone. when do i know about the the missing and budget national jump and so forth. i produce my place that the captive and wanted to see if the voice or the easy to buy new names and get
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the note in vietnam the vietnam war last, it's almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. not any time we have now. and then you don't see a number. what is all on the empty? hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to back the south vietnamese on me. and the american soldiers murdered resistors mercilessly to down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals and lee laid up day by all right. did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did and on the vietnamese veterans ready to forgive? yeah, yeah, yeah. that's. that's
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a ways to go. yeah. the, the gold greetings everyone. we're here with roland bloomberg. had of the patrice emory lumber foundation. good afternoon, mr. lumber. good afternoon. let's start with this. why is it important for you to be here in saint petersburg? for the russian african summit, the same simple song plus the foundation is happy to be present, whereas africa can or should make decisions. so we get to witness what's going on 1st hand and participate. we believe that south of all the continents of the world, there were still much to be done in africa. the us felt it was important to organize a conference with africa,
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china and from civil side on the side. and it is quite natural that a big country like russia is not lagging behind them or was invited to the 1st somebody in searching. we believe that all countries both need each other, especially because we don't have and they haven't had historical claims against russia. all the soviet union, as we do against other countries on the issues of all shit balls. and we don't forget that the union contributed to our freedom, helped some african countries to free themselves, a bit colonial status. old in all i see only the positives and i think it's important to identify opportunities for positive development together as a platform where everyone can speak out of you have some success since the corner particularly might come up. we'll get back to that. but now i'd like to ask your opinion on the people's friendship, university of russia, one of the most prestigious universities in the country. once more being named in honor of patrice lumber, i imagined that was important for you as someone who is dedicated to preserving the legacy of patrice limone by the con,
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the least statesman who is considered the 1st national hero of the democratic republic of congo. after its independence, he said russia was part of his journey and he left her rich legacy. here maybe is of course, it was of great importance to us. we followed the story with great interest. when we found out that it happened, we couldn't miss the chance to write to the russian authorities and the academic community to thank them once again for the on a given to one great here, right? to a here right with the come go of africa and of the well on his memory has been on it and we're very grateful for this gesture. a possibly in finance for the the can you tell us a little bit about the contribution the made to the development of strong ties between your region and the then soviet union. and later on to relations with russia. how did that relationship come about? the relationship with them,
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but really developed when he saw support from the un was refused. he then turned towards the soviet union. they agreed to provide him with an airplane. of course, it wasn't anything grand, but it showed an eagerness to help him from that point on the many of his opponents again to regard him as a communist. although all country at that time had not yet developed an understanding of the concept of communism. after his death, the then the soviet union educated many of his associates relations with good bye during the members lifetime and off to his death. as you know, the members associates remain loyal to the us as all the new to you. and so you could say that he was the one who started this relationship fairly nice. yeah, yes. you could put it that way. he established that relationship when he made his request. and then he forward for simulate principles, backed in the soviet union was helping a number of countries from and go to, to mozambique. countries that were progressive for the time. and then they were fighting the same cause. it will still come off,
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so what i was told and how has this relationship changed up until today? you mentioned higher education. are there other areas in which the special relationship has developed more? no less and they can go no. of course, some members of the leadership went to patrice limone, but university, they didn't become overly pro western, but it's believed that in the bhutto became these young dom with the united states and our region. so this is more likely to apply to other countries in the region. so during mobutu has ruled, the country turned its back on russia. why the, it may seem, pay us exactly for the entire 34 years thing in the world divided into 2 camps. the members associates found more support and the eastern bloc countries made the payment of the problem the form, but after the end of mobutu, his rule to relation start to improve again. when the end of looters rule came, should be mentioned that at that time pressure was beginning its recovery from the
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collapse of the soviet union and relations with the african countries. love is not so long ago and said the menu, exactly. the relations had gone down. the less where a game determined to review my relations because we have a sudden affection for russia. it's very noticeable, april for the people. so in your opinion, what is the secret of this close mutual affinity between russia and africa? so going to the fast as i said before, we don't have a painful pause in our relations with russia. nothing there tomorrow, relations. but come, yes, unlike relations with the west, which have been scarred by the slave trade, capitalize ation, neo colonialism. we're still trying to shed light on some of the manifestations. yes, we cooperates but not on an equal for take because with russia everything that's happened has been on the clean grounds. you can say that immediately without pause to think about it. and this is what we've been striving for,
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for almost 60 years of the independence to be respected, to be accepted as equals. we're striving for a relationship that is beneficial to both. despite the propaganda, this being made against russians in africa, it's noticeable that it's not changing. peoples asked judas as intended. the more penalty no. uh, what opinions do the african population, especially the french speaking population, have about africa. what are their thoughts on russia, seo, but if we talk about the french speaking, positive africa, the media that has a lot of influence, listen to there. at least 90 percent west and media. we wake up to the sound of our if i baby say voice of america, the stones towards cooperation between europe and russia is of course will style. but the common man doesn't feel that hostility. it's surprising and lately i can't even say what explains it. given all the techniques of the west, however, there is sympathy for a symbol of the states, such as the president,
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an inexplicable sympathy for president boots in these. we even have such a joke in africa and especially in congo almost every way you can encounter such a concept as seen you already, right. so this is when you respect someone who is older, you have to listen to what they tell you be respectful. yes, you have to listen to them. even the address reflects this. when you address and now that you say elder brother. recently, ordinary people, when talking about putin started quoting him, elder brother foods, in my call and say why, i wonder why indeed they say big brother boots and he, because of it, i say, what's the big curve? it's the that, why is it the t defeated curve it? the foldable started and ukraine. we went to sleep and woke up with constant reports that so many people died from cultivate. so many people were infected toby, this guy with that since the war broke out. if it hasn't been heard, all the media is focused, has completely switched. it's
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a disease that affects everyone's life. you couldn't move around freely, etc. and today there are no restrictions, and we say it's all likes to food thing. i see it's just a junk of course, even though it does say something though, so yeah. but they were looking for a reason to express their appreciation. that's it. oh, yes. okay, so that, that sounds good with everything to suit. now i'd like to come back to one interesting point you raised to western media ubiquitously appearing in africa and also in russia. and russia is trying to include a media portrait of africa through various media outlets, which includes r t. how do you see this initiative to keep us? it's rather a positive thing because other ways of getting information would be the ability to travel to move from country to country. and so i want the internet is not available to everyone. we have many other tools, full comparison for the average person who stays in the back country is content
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with just this will radio receive a struggle speak up frequency, g, y dot notes. and even if it does, it's r f. i all of want to the roof and that's it. it's basically the only source of information. so song, because it's an interpretation in the transmission of information, it would be transmitted and they realized the advantage of that despite this interference, they are beginning to be critical of the west in the processing of information discussing are they really so it's a very positive trend on russian spots to work on providing information, it will be beneficial for all of us. we'll just get all the details and stuff on, on this or after talking to various participants in the summit, it seems that there was a demand from the population for a day for city, a few points to help them develop their own opinions. yes. yes. of course, of course, because there is a desire to bring. yesterday i was invited to
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a panel discussion on time. african is in its origin and it was attended by the children of those who gave political expressions to this time. african is, i'm not saying all of a time by mentality the moon, but everyone was there to discuss upon african ism and its origins. it surprised me . i felt very proud of that because at one time a similar initiative was launched in tripoli by president. get that for you. but that was expected, understandable. he's an african, the leader of an african country is perfectly natural as prussia is not an african country, but it's still cares about this issue. this is a really positive thing, and we africans will need to take advantage of this to explain the more precisely what pam african ism is, how exactly to come to this african solidarity that the found is our parents who created this concept with striving to establish on the continent, and i'm very grateful to rush it as a considering these things. and how would you define pan african is on his african solidarity, but it's on a high level, you're a foreigner,
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you come to my village. i feed you in saying to, you know, it's small than that is what was at the heart of the conception of the european union and the ability to confront big commonalities, like the united states, china and other countries to occupy almost whole continents to become today. well, i cannot mccloud putting them in seattle economic social because of cologne utilization. we lost a lot in terms of culture and identity. and in the fifty's and sixty's, people thought it was important for us to come together. stand up to these pretend is the danger then it seemed to come more from the europeans who came to col, nice us now trying to raise active the united states is active. kerry white numbers are important on a cultural level. having started thinking about this many years ago, we believe that we need to what to be recognized. after all the country, 1000000 people is a community. and then the borders that have been drawn sitting around a table in the lane or somewhere else. there are such countries in africa,
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it seems that pan african isn't as a concept, is becoming more and more popular, more more people are talking about it is, it's really the case. we. yes, it is becoming more and more popular, but you have to teach it more because many political leaders prefer to be king of a village rather than the root of the city. no, no, i have my own little country. i want a sovereignty. i want to be in charge. i want, we need to go beyond this kind of thinking and consider the community, the people much lodge, a much more useful community. so 8 policies. it all takes time. it takes education . it's all slowly evolving through the discussion of these concepts with stuff almost as me. yes, it's starting to develop and many young people, even young africans who grew up in the west, starting to adhere to these concepts, trying to communicate them to others, to explain them. and that's a positive thing to western media, especially the french media do not have take to denigrate japan african, his movements, the supporters of sovereignty and de,
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legitimize it at the 1st opportunity. what do you think are the reasons for this? the reason for marrying near the principle of divide and rule, if the master is a despised, it's much easier to control when the population of the country is one to 2000000 people. that is much easier to manipulate, to control these people. that's the reason why they're moving in that direction. resources is presented, customize them. are these attempts at manipulation effective? do they work? they work because we allow ourselves to be bribes. they not effective 100 percent of the time, but you can see the some latest do not subscribe to the concepts of pan african is they prefer the concept of everyone will keep their little privileges were afraid of losing their privileges in such a large community. it takes a lot of explaining to show the benefits of membership and launch groupings. okay. yeah, because there are many people in the you want to leave this type of big association . are there no contradictions here, after all, brooks, it happened not so long ago. the u. k left the
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e u a few years ago. and here we are talking about africa, which wants to unite into one block. there are advantages and disadvantages. yes, in my opinion, everything in life has its advantages and disadvantages. but i believe and many agree with me that the price of uniting nations fall most significant. the cones, whether we like it or not, we did not respond to become a 2nd a you. but we spawn to become an end states that can make decisions and implement them by making decisions for 200000 people is not the same as making decisions. we're much launch a union. the majority view is that the outcome of unification will be positive. we're not focusing on break said yes, you can take no that example, but they're all big unions. they work. and you can take an example from the to soak . what can we wish for africa today in the 21st century so that it can finally follow the path of development and prosperity, which as you say,
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would be common to everyone. what could we wish for africa in that regard? as i said, we are in a situation today where we need technology, that costs we have some technology, but we need more to develop certain things of the country still need role materials, but they do not have that we do. and so why don't organize an exchange, which is now co, many called a win win cooperation. you get the role materials you need and we get the technology to increase the pace of development so that you don't pilot all the things that you don't need. all the things that button you were able to mind, co, bolts and produce computers, phones and so on. we have a solid amounts accumulated in aggregating, we don't have the technology, we can trade it for other technologies that we need. so we don't take these results is for granted. let's try to maintain a pallet said to be brought to keep both parties on the winning side with. so that's what we want to see the africa of the future in front of us to fight the pressing environmental problems. the increasing hate the one point i went to europe
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and suddenly realized that they were suppose it then in egypt, it was in front and counted hate that never experienced in africa. well this is because they've cut down the forest that you please exploit to the most less late for you. and today we're paying for it together. and africa may have been affected even more than some western countries in norman know. exactly. and now the only hope left hinges on personal income guys, and we told not to touch anything, not to cut anything down. why not? while europe continues to deforest exterminate and disturb the harmony of nature, a well known to different of them, of all in the name of progress, see all sadly enough to be in the name of progress. and yet they tell us not to touch a thing. we say yes, you're right, we want to interrupt your environmental work thoughts if you want us not to interrupt it, then reparations must be made. otherwise, we will do is you do exploit natural resources to develop and then we will have to deal with the consequences together,
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which is exactly what we're facing right now. so let's try to be fat and consider the interest of old policies on that period. well, let's hope that your message is getting through mister lumber. thank you for answering our questions. thank you, and thank you for joining us. the so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy, even foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful. very good. i think it was time time to sit down and talk
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i the 1st time in history, an entire country's culture has been cancelled that remote in west council culture need to ask the associate and my last thoughts. and when the truck's yet just me sitting on a particular, the phrase now particularly refers to canceling russian culture. let them know what degree of see what was the zip code when you might have to push bell renewal for this chart. if phillips, that the most of the some rich, the one them eat them, we blood rushes, created the pos 1500 years. there's no question. partially condemned, reviled and reject it to sit alone and use them to put somebody at the middle of panel. there's a lot, i don't know because i don't know, she does have access to the little some of the list. joining total comes them.
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