the, the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the, as soon as i live, and especially if i'm gonna miss brown. all right, thank you very much for your time as well. we can states now that the 2nd trasha africa, som, it has taken place regardless of what the west and media tried to write about that . what do you see around us today? those the 1st best place from what there was to in that 1st saw me for years ago in

2019 what has changed things that you have the most stays menial system. but i think the very approach has changed during that 1st summit. our goal was to declare that russia is returning to africa. we were making a statement today. so there was a session when a speaker said that in russian, the for to do has 2 aspects you are effective and in protective name, perfection of aspect needs to be doing walter effective needs to finish doing some things to arrive at a certain result. so i think as the summit we arrived at great results because we were speaking very specifically very consistently. we realized that the african market is usually promising for us. i mean, we really came to understand that on all levels, not just on the level of flex worth with africa could be an opportunity. but because we need it, we need it because many other markets that we use to look at are now closed for us . willingly or not, we had to set our sights on all the markets,

including the african awareness. while we have worked with china for quite a while. and the market has grown by 2 or 2.5 times. now the african market still remains a place that we need to expand. we are willing to do that. and what's important, we realize that we should cooperate with africa, not only through trade, but through helping build advocacy future on the base of its goals. and those goals are, 1st of all, industrial development and energy development, followed by improvement of education and scientific cooperation. this is the same range of opportunities that russia can open up for africa because those rushes trunk to it. as for example, we had this science session today, i've just come back from it. so when they were planning it, our scientists would ask is, what are we going to talk about with the africans? so one of the speakers was me, hired, cool bunch, actually head of the course shutoff institute,

where the out of mich bomb was created. maybe it is thanks to that bomb we are still alive because me how you go to bed. i would say, had it not been for the bomb, the whole world would have long bean and american colony. so color troop noted in his address that the 1st textbook of x rays, he had read as a student, was published in 1939 by a south african scientist. the votes africans and us have similar approaches to science. we both talk about scientific and technological sovereignty. they ask, why should we just adopt others technologies? we need to develop our own and rely on our century long experience and with the interest of our countries in mind. instead of doing something that somebody else needs, that is fine as through grants and serves to advance someone else's agenda. one of the sessions devoted to the environmental agenda, a young woman from an african country who was speaking. and i had the impression that she had been completely trained and school to in this western approach. she

spoke a lot about the green agenda about the importance of advancing it and about how alignment issues are important to africa. however, older than these 3 points, she said nothing else, no word was said about how to combine those problems. what has to be changed? who is responsible for the climate situation that we find ourselves in and why countries the didn't contribute so much to the pollution of the environment like africa, for example. now for some reason have to pay for the mistakes of others. you know, if i could have recorded a video of her, you would have been an example of how young people are trained now in the west. besides, i speak certain african languages. so i addressed that young woman in her countries, native language. but she immediately switched to english. it goes to show that ross, i cannot afford to miss its oppertunity. if we stop our efforts in active cooperation with africa,

we are going to lose africa because the west has lots of programs to brainwash africa's youth. and they are willing, paid well to do that. what's important though is that there was very few people like that girl here. most of our form guests from africa know very well what they want from restaurant. it's one thing. the 2nd they realize that we are in the same boat. we both want to get rid of the legacy of your calling your lives in which hasn't gone anywhere. moreover, it's taking you forms one of the worst of which is the intellectual and information space. it applies also to the field of mass media or western media outlets dominate . it applies to the intellectual sphere as well when both education and science are designed to serve the interest of the west. we have a common understanding of our goals and a common desire to resist the pressure. yeah, frequent showed that very vividly during the summit was there can be

a lot to talk about on this. and there has been coverage in the media that was the 1st time it had 44 presidents. only 17 presidents showed up this year. well, let's not pride about the number of presidents in attendance. let's look at the real results. especially considering that a total of $29.00 delegations came to rush off from africa, which is a very good number at the origin. carlos, that's sort of very strong to stop it in the you mentioned the same boat that we are rain. i think there is yet to not the us back to where we share the same boat and that is values and the values that are being enforced now will be a more once touching upon things like family tender and old base. we see resistance on the part of african countries against the inforcement of those values. do you see what we have these commonality between russia and africa countries in this aspect as well? when we give them up through modeling kisses, certainly i will share

a little secret with you when we're preparing for different lenary session, we talked with the president of our country logic to attempt to arrive to before the session, begin and talk to the participants of the plenary session, ask them short questions, and during that conversation brazil's expert present and do my recept said that people needed to build the walls to which our president responded, is that's the most important thing is well, the main goal of what we are trying to do, she said, of course not that we need to reach a certain level, and that is true that the west is focused on over consumption. and that doesn't make any sense. who needs all that? 10 iphones or 20 pairs of shoes will not make you happier. eating hamburgers all day will not make you happier, and that is the model. they offer consumers and the devoid of any spiritual dimension people are taught to consume and not give back. in such attitude is

spreading globally. it is imposed on the african countries presented as some example that everyone should follow and aspire to it. it's not even the scariest part of the scariest part is the attack on human nature itself that we see happening in the west. some old is gender diversity, transgender persons and everything. this agenda brings about it will get us to the point where instead of leaving beans, we will have semi engineers, bio robots who might be beautiful on the outside capable of satisfying their desires. but they will not be able to reproduce the child we called sept and promotion, same sex relationships will lead humanity to instead, and we will become make something. do you understand that? and we will die spiritually before we die. physically, who needs a world without spiritual values, africa understands this well. and african countries react to so called democratic values in no uncertain terms. the president of uganda, you already know said benny,

who is wildly respected in africa, was very clear when he talked about the issue that he's not the only one africans are aware of the importance of spiritual religious values and the into religious dialogues, that patriarch carol of moscow talked about the majority of africans as christians, but there are a lot of most things to do. you understand the importance of such dialogues. they know that as humans, we must grow spiritually, intellectually and culturally africa's culture is very rich. there are thousands of ethnic bruises there, there are similarities and differences, and it is important to value every human being every ethnic or cultural groups. and i think that doing this for, and we demonstrated that russia and africa shared this approach with who is that you mentioned the preparation of the plan, the recession that you moderate with the russian president force, mom,

the participants. can you tell us more about that? how did you feel moderate in the conversation? what impressed you the most? did you hear any ideas that you thought for a very important no garden? your simple up. i said it was a great responsibility. of course, i wouldn't say there was fear because this was the 2nd time for me. i also moderated a session at the 1st economist for in the format was a bit different. back then present inputs in egypt. president had been such that his p c came to the stage from the audience. i delivered their addresses and went back to their seats. where as this time we were all on the stage the whole time and discuss the issues that concern russia and ask because the most unfortunately, due to time limitations, people couldn't ask questions as the moderator i was has we've given a brief introduction for isa speaker and then i had to summarize the main talking point. trust me. this wasn't easy. despite being

a member of the russian academic of sciences, a well educated person with extensive public speaking experience, i still felt the pressure. what impressed me the most is the people that were present in the room. 2 participants were hired to be their, our president in as the head of the some is host country and assigned us for mommy . president of the common rooms in the current chair, person of the african union. but i was surprised to see some other permanent figures there. our patriarch, for example, he came to the plenary session because the forum didn't just focus on economic issues. it was also a humanitarian event, and patriarch real was there to contribute to the humanitarian agenda. talk about spiritual values and the future of humanity. do my reception presence was a surprise. result doesn't seem to have anything to do with africa. but going back to our conversation before the pottery,

she mentioned along with another panelist to benefit or ahmad, that some brazilian regions as try can be close to africa. their dance and music styles. their approach to life. even the color of their skin are very similar. in essence, brazil is a country with a very strong historical and cultural ties to africa as for benedict or amok, his participation was quite expected. he was also present at the plenary of the previous forum, held insult she in 2019. this time he was invited as well. the 1st russia has a big share in africa in that 25 percent. if i'm not mistaken, is this a 2nd making our cooperation work financially? is one of the most pressing issues on the agenda? how will we end africans make payments to each other? yesterday i moderated a session on fertilizer exports organized by you are awesome and we have the head of x i or nick at the top. com on the panel. he said there are 3 main ways for us

to solve the problem. first, we will likely have to adopt the one in the short term if we want to avoid using the dollar. it's not ideal for russia, but it makes sense in short term. the 2nd stage will be trying to use national currencies. but in order to do that, we need to balance our imports and exports to end from africa, currently rationalize exports and 5 times more than it is important. our companies may sell goods for local currencies, but how will they spend that money? the 3rd option was the most interesting, and naturally it was welcomed by the african countries. we would invest our profits from selling our goes into the development of local industry. after local industries developed, we can get dividends this way is very interesting. the africans applauded. they said is just what they need, but it's a long term strategy. it does not produce immediate results. you must wait 5 or 10

years. but it's relevant in view of all that was discussed with the planetary and the speech of our president and covered every aspect of our cooperation. you may have noticed that you also dedicated a substantial part of the speech to the human to terry and ask that including the development of educational and youth. because africa has so many you, 60 percent of africans are younger than $25.00 the present. and also announcing piece quotas. you mentioned that our cooperation should be based on technology called partnership. for me was the most pleasing thing to hear. and i've been saying this for long. you just need to find something for yourself in this applicant endeavor. and the session we held fundamental science, the cornerstone of technological sovereignty, was a confirmation of that was really, really happy. the africans expect us to provide technologies with it, but they said that they need to come to logical independence just as we do. because ross,

i is also technologically dependent and the west is also offering technologies to us. i think it was the minister of education of molly, who said that we should work for our cells. instead of working for the west, we must be the side, which means to study, to read our own research, instead of copying the west. but what we're being offered is to copy this copy in this universal is and there's no rush on or off because with their diverse and unique multinational cultures. what does that? yep. so when they talk to representatives of african countries, many of them mention this term cooperation. that existed in the soviet times and see the trash of them became self absorbed for several decades. and now has finally turned back to africa. now we're seeing increasing focus on the continent. do you think russia is doing enough? what else can we do to intensify the corporation? i know which i'm gonna give it across with many of the africans. i talked to asked

me, how can we be sure that russia was not abandoned us will not leave us high and dry like you did when you were ceasar fell apart. i assured them that we won't do that though we hadn't really needed to deal with the problems at home. but the, our self absorption was a mistake. because our domestic problems are very much connected to our foreign policy. and the effort and the strategy should be integrated with our country's development interest. china has always done this. it's really important that we learn from china in this regard. what can be done to intensify this partnership? i'm the 1st and infrastructure. a partnership needs to be created and it should be based on partnership between the public and private sectors. we won't companies to work on the african continent in the state to provide the necessary conditions. but it shouldn't only be for $3520.00 or 30 big companies. what perfectly capable of

working in africa is we need to support regional enterprises, small and medium sized businesses. and we need them to build ties with their african partners through their cooperation. so that's one thing, that's the way the infrastructure that it's easy to understand. the 2nd we need to build finance and mechanisms. how will the projects be financed? who will do it? this needs to be decided. will it be the state and business? only business or only the state? i think all 3 are possible. 3rd, we need to decide about payment. many africans, including benedicts ramos said, look, we're ready to trade in roubles. but where do we get the rules? who will make them available physically, both the ministry of finance and the central bank are very concerned about this. so we need to address this. in other words, there's a whole range of issues to be addressed. but at least we understand what we were talking about. talking about trade, we need to stop trading with africans through european intermediaries. i'm serious,

despite all the sanctions, many tropical farming products are still purchased in this roundabout way. a triple cost, just because it's convenient for us, do it through your partners. if we want to end this situation, we need to build our own international cargo insurance and re insurance system and build our own logistics. some companies have ready to do that. the far eastern shipping company headed by andre, so that he loves he's an interesting person by the way, is ready to do it. yeah. or with the launching their own lines to egypt and morocco and they're willing to work in west and east africa as well. so so, so if we establish a clear making isn't defined the tools, make the decision and commit to it. i believe our cooperation will double or even triple in the coming years. 40 per se, would extend to new colonial pulses on the flash drive for these partnership, which is colon, perhaps slower, then we on the african countries would like. but it's there, you know,

colonialism is a multi layer concept. it includes the ongoing attempt to impose democracy upon african countries which are opposed street because it's contrary to the nature and the romania, the money of his patients. so how much do you think these attempts these various, many of his patients, including the efforts to therapy to the saw meet, propelled the intensification of bratia africa relations. the sentence to on the one hand are destructive but on the other hand, they drive forward. these partnership, ironically, that is if you are absolutely right the essential slapped by the west on us to bolster our relations with other regions of the world. technically because the countries we use to interact with are no longer available. this is number one. they also help in terms of ideological motivation. the africans we have faced the rows of quan ellis and neo colonial policies. know well, well,

what they are dealing with that is unlike some of our closest neighbors, were brain washed and are told that russia is a colonial power. that who has never really experienced colonial rule in their history, on the contrary, russia always invested much more in them than it did in itself. they had far higher live in sanders. lots of yacht is sonya and may 20. i have always had the highest standard of living. we all know that the africans have 1st hand experience of colonialism. they bore the brunt of it, and quoting the variable situation in the democratic republic of the congo country that was treated by king leopold the 2nd of belgium. as his private property, the condo, these people were taken to brussels and displayed in his sue. and in the congo, europeans use the africans bodies to try robber. they smeared the robbers up over them, and once it dried, tore it off with their skin and pages the wound black was murdered there. and you

know, this active returning his gold crowned tooth. i don't know, it's out of all proportion and africans realize this. that's a human, completely in humane. they realize that when the west sells them to keep away from russia, shaking a fist at them, that's neo colonial is in the african say to that that they wants to take their partners on their own because they are silver and countries. and we'll partner with whoever they want. so the west is getting a backlash from africa. they all these the over did, the pressure is a chest up to date. everyone says that the world has changed. and advocates changing to the frequent countries a very diverse they differ significantly from one another. and yet the united, the, a community that's willing to be a player in the world in the world order, is that it's going your son you, but it's in the now, it's just, they want to play a meaningful part of course. and most importantly,

to do it in independence over in weight. they know full well the advocates significance is growing. they say themselves, the advocate will be home to almost a 3rd of the world's population quite soon. this means that the flow of goods, all production chains, will be redirected to that region to a considerable extent after the currently has the fastest growing middle class. it's faster than asia, even china. so you can say that africa is like a tiger boys to leap forward the same as china in the early 19 ninety's. and it's clear to africa's role in the global economy is going to increase that for the an agency to fully forms. it needs to be supported, not by the west, which can only provide state assistance, but by the countries that are really prepared to live africa, partner with whoever it wishes to. i've always said that equals silver and states should interact on an equal basis. partnership with such countries is a 2 way street. if we want to work with africa,

we need to understand what it means, what we, our cells need and look for the most beneficial areas for cooperation reports. and it's in the permanent representative of prussia, do they do? an sat that western 8 to africa is a hit bulk receive. the west overlooks crosses their antics townsley to help test for the sake of publicity. and what kind of help can russia offered to make a difference and better meet the needs of epic on listening to someone who loved me put in. so it's, don't somebody pick this? well, we are following the principle of giving an efficient road instead of fish. yes, we are taking part in all programs. through the u. one world food program, we have supplies, fertilizers, making 2 shipments, kenya and once in malawi, absolutely free. and we had to overcome a lot of barriers. we are ready to supply 300000 tons and move that is welcomed by

the african countries. we are providing food a president to and has said that this $1000000.00 tons of we even less that ukraine had supplied to africa. and now, after the green deal was canceled, it won't be able to deliver more, but we are ready to give it for free. over the last 8 months since the beginning of the special military operation, we have supplied africa with $22000000.00 tons or $22.00 times more than ukraine has done. this is what i want to stress. the west hypocritically says that russia has not delivered. now russia is orchestrating stineman that compel 1000000 and 20 to millions. most importantly, we are not just donating, we can provide humanitarian helps, for instance, assist in training and national workforce today. a lot has been said not only about higher education, but about vocational training too. by the way, this question was overlooked here in russia as well. remember, we used to have these vocational schools. now they are replaced with some colleges,

but they are less efficient back to our health, it should be practical and not sure we, once i did a study on german aid, it turned out that every 4 out of 5 votes marks were paid to drum specialists, involved in the project, the people who dealt with that 8 and decided when he should go, it means that only one in 5 judge marks or 20 percent was real health. we are doing things differently. we possibly have a blessed. let me ask you one last question. here on the sidelines of the forum, i talked to woman from sending goals, who had move to st. petersburg alone and go to my surprise, she started telling me how much and come on we russians house with the senegalese. you talk to a lot of people from africa. is there any thing common between russians and africans? is a full yes. yes, of course. there is. i agree, african say that russian mentality is closer to them than that of china,

for example, or europe. africans are not over organized, they can get things done informally. you know, they once told me that both russians and africans can settle matters by unwritten rules. it's funny but it's true. then russians are open hearted and kind, you know, russian people how we rushed to help our friends and can put everything on hold for their sake and africans. i'd say we have a rich, true that we value and we also take interest in other cultures. we are interested in other people to not just ourselves, there is individual isn't as opposed to collectivism. i believe we have a collectivist mind and africa is collect to this historically collective economy. the communal farming model is that both africa and ross, i used to have, has defined our geno type. we needs to be part of the community. part of it seem to be open towards others, and africans are like that to thank you so much. it was very exciting to talk to

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