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forget has more than enough materials, and we can sustain ourselves without to you. in birds, we only need good machines to extract minerals and ex, for them to all the countries. by doing this, we're going to be in a better position to develop the african economy. hello, they took last year, pins, union, reduce new imports. then yes, we're going to stop far. but on the other hand, there are able countries that kind of work closely with africa for them, the roles and at the same time race bear leaving standards of many africans. we were speaking with the trio, economic out a list of poly la hawk color. besides, the move could significantly affect global trade and prices to meet the constraints, the fast these that the, the cheap materials that'd be good for offered for me, i forgot that he's begun to accept i x was will not be available to them. so that prize level in this is to be able to rise. so to magic, got a 2nd thing is that the, the consumption market that'd be used to have if africa,
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we're deceptive because relative to the price level of use, i forgot about the exports. very much more expensive, but we have you as a market, it's quite a big market. the decipherable market and the advance to worry about that we get ready and everything, but they, they have an asian population. the reach then website gives them jabs of the consumption of who's in. ready issues, and they cannot that easily be best. when did you, did you 8 that they have so done about the t as a best strategy is not going to where it's more intuitive started you out of it and send you the correction or cation connection. but an easy way to take it for another 50 or 60 as well for it. for us, the nation's eh, you up, we lose. what i do, you will be sitting the filter. also victims of
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a suicide bombing of being held in northern pockets. dawn 50 full people with killed $200.00 wounded in a shoot explosion which occurred at a political rally. a video footage basically showing what's left in the aftermath of the blast. the riley was held by his law, make political party in the run up to national elections later this year. and an isolated fairly, it has allegedly claim responsibility for the attack. the biggest on a political party that hosted the defend has to bonded the 3rd. he's the very least should strength and security of public political gather all is how wide is it, how would you mind the government and afford to still vis terrorist attacks? come on, people and innocent civilians are being targeted by the terrorists. we demand the government investigated these attacks and bring the terrorists into courts. the must be exposed and punished, is walk down there. around 400 people was that when the bomb went of just the of the stage of the pot to rally,
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to rescue the one that's all called ministration. emergency work is and security forces have worked hard, but it was avoided the w. okay. products. no one has directly claimed responsibility for the explosion. the authorities say it was a suicide bombing that use 12 kilograms of explosives. the investigation is ongoing, and the police report has been filed against the unknown assailants. a senior police officer has named to top suspect, all yes, who sony saying that individual is believed to have been involved in the attack. meanwhile, there was continued anger and grief throughout the whole community. residents held funeral prayers in the various villages. most of the dead were buried this afternoon. we talked motivations, engaged reaction with a side colored mohammad, director of the packing style and based private intelligence come on de la in progress on everything is connected via straight popular daily moran time has
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brought the bill to the box, assigning national assembly where they are trying to declare p t i as a band extremist organization inside of boxes that now the carry on to the dock like this on a political party. 3 months before an election is supposed to happen. your intent is nothing more than the delay of these elections, not to delay those elections, your causing us problems the economic need with i am i with the i m s. u i creating a solution, a security solution inside of a security situation inside of boxes. time way, law enforcement civilians and military personnel will be involved in the tax again during 2007 to 2013. we lost 80000 bucks as dinings to their attacks. this time if i, if they'd be actually comes after bark is not the way they did syria at the rock. the bloodshed in focus on will be devastating. and the possibility of an election or a wrong ever coming back to power would disappear for the next 10 to 15 years. the
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problem pocket sounds very good. the problem of care isn't in progress, and it's very easy. you need to go to the root cause of the problem which is radicalization extreme is to this point from 2001 on to 2023. the government of margaret side has done nothing to counter radicalization, unregistered in my dresses unregistered funding. coming into my dresses and how the funding is used. now that's the 1st step. the 2nd step, the military cannot solve this problem. yes, the minute a 10 to an extent give the government a foothold to, to negotiate from. but that does again need massive legit. you cannot instead listed the military a box on, on the people of boxes. the $3500.00 cars, up in smoke because ship parts, one of them on his way to egypt caught fire
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a few days ago off the coast of the netherlands. while the cause of the place is not entirely 9 round this time they were 500 electric vehicles on bull. that may have been the sauce. it's now being towed out of shipping lanes and file from the unesco world heritage side where it went up in flames. renaissance, one person killed 7, others injured in a safe spot now and perhaps its resting spot of authorities are still planning the next course of action a smoke continues to build. yeah, that's what we continues online right now or dot com for the meantime. thanks for joining us, we are still good with the as a cranes much more over 5 to keller, offensive stalls. western leaders have made a remarkable rhetorical tippett lines. as proof of his already lost board. the
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secretary of state pointing, says russia has lost their narrative. is a form of pseudo reality because making the claim ukraine is wendy, is untenable. acceptance and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously . why watch something that's so different by little opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome, but please do have the state department, the c i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead, change and whatever you do. don't want marshall stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you to take a fresh look around as a life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real live indians.
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fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just because it shows if you fractured images, presented to this bus? can you see through their illusion going underground? can the the move on to say the goal? greetings, everyone. we're here with roland bloomberg. had of the patrice emory lumber foundation. good afternoon, mr. lumber. good afternoon. let's start with this. why is it important for you to
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be here in saint petersburg for the rush african summit? it just seems simple song plus the the number of foundation is happy to be present, whereas africa can or should make decisions. so we get to witness what's going on 1st hand and participate. we believe that it's out of all the continents of the world. there was still much to be done in africa. us felt it was important to organize a conference with africa, china and from civil so done so. and it is quite natural that the big country like russia is not lagging behind them. i was invited to the 1st somebody in searching. we believed that all countries both need each other, especially because we don't have and they haven't had historical claims. a gates rush at all the soviet union as we do against other countries on issues of all shit balls. and we don't forget that the union contributed to all freedom helped some african countries to free themselves of that colonial status. all in all, i see only the positives and i think it's important to identify opportunities for
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positive development together. platform where everyone can speak out when you have something say it's, it's important particulars and we'll get back to that. but now i'd like to ask your opinion on the people's friendship, university of russia, one of the most prestigious universities in the country. once more being named in honor of patrice, remember this i imagined that was important for you. as someone who is dedicated to preserving the legacy of patrice lumber, the congolese statesman who is considered the 1st national hero of the democratic republic of congo, afterwards. independence, he said, russia was part of his journey and he left her rich legacy. here maybe is the cause, it was of great importance to us. we followed the story with great interest. when we found out it happened, we couldn't miss the chance to write to the russian authorities and the academic community to thank them once again for the on a given to one great here, right to it here, right? with the come go of africa, end of the well on his memory has been on it. and we're very grateful to this just
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yet the oscar bleeding finance for the can you tell us a little bit about the contribution the luma made to the development of strong ties between your region and the then soviet union. and later on to relations with russia, how did that relationship come about their last show, the relationship with them, but really developed when he saw support from the un was refused. he didn't turn towards the soviet union on saturday, agreed to provide him with an airplane. of course, it wasn't anything grand, but it showed an eagerness to help us. and from that point on the many of his opponents began to regard him as a communist. although our country at that time had not yet developed an understanding of the concept of communism after his death, the then the soviet union educated many of his associates relations with good advice during the members likes time and off to his death. as you know, the members associates remain loyal to the us as well as
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a new to us. and so you could say that he was the one who started this relationship fairly nice. yeah, yes. you could put it that way. he established that relationship when he made his request and then he fought for simulate principles. back then the soviet union was helping a number of countries from and go to, to mozambique. countries that went progressive for the time and then they were fighting the same cause. it will still come off. so what i source and how has this relationship changed up until today? you mentioned higher education. are there other areas in which the special relationship has developed or not in the congo? no, of course some members of the leadership went to patrice of them, but university, they didn't become overly pro western. but it's believe that in the boots or became these young dom with the united states and our region. so this is more likely to apply to other countries in the region. so during mobutu his rule, the country turned its back on russia. why the, it may seem,
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pay us exactly for the entire 34 years then, and well divided into 2 camps. the members associates found more supports in the eastern bloc countries. the peter, the found the that's what after the end of mobile two's rule to relation start to improve again. when the end of the boots, those real came, should be mentioned that at that time pressure was beginning its recovery from the collapse of the soviet union. and relations with the african countries was not so long ago and said the menu exactly. the relations had gone down, never less where a game determined to review my relations because we have a sudden affection for russia. it's very noticeable if the people, so in your opinion, what is the secret of this close mutual affinity between russia and africa? so go to the say, as i said before, we don't have a painful pause in our relations with russia. nothing there tomorrow,
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relations. but come, yes, unlike relations with the west which have been scarred by the slave trade color lies ation, neo colonialism. we're still trying to shed light on some of the manifestations. yes, we cooperate but not on an equal foot tape because with russia, everything that's happened has been on the clean grounds. you can say that immediately without pause to think about it. and this is what we've been striving for, for almost 60 years of the independence to be respected, to be accepted as equals. we're striving for a relationship that is beneficial to will, despite the propaganda this being made against russians in africa, it's noticeable that it's not changing people's attitudes as intended. a similar tanf in your opinions to the african population, especially the french speaking population, have about africa. what are their thoughts on russia to see on file? if we talk about the french speaking, positive africa, the media that have
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a lot of in fluids, listen to there at least 90 percent west and mediately. we wake up to the sound of our, if i bbc, voice of america, the stones towards corporation between europe and russia is of course, whole style. but the common man doesn't feel that hostility. it's surprising and lately i can't even say what explains it. given all the techniques of the west, however, there is sympathy for a symbol of the state, such as the president, an inexplicable sympathy for president boots in these we even have such a joke in africa, especially in congo almost every way you can encounter such a concept as seniority, right? so this is when you respect someone who is older, you have to listen to what they tell you be respectful. yes, you have to listen to them. even the address reflects this when you address and now that you say elder brother recently, ordinary people when talking about pushing have started quoting him, elder brother foods in my call and say why, i wonder why indeed they say big brother boots and he because of it i say,
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what's the big curve? it's the that, why is it the t defeated curve aid? the foldable started in ukraine. we went to sleep and woke up with constant reports that so many people died from kobe. so many people were infected toby, this guy with that since the war broke out, because it hasn't been heard. all the media is focused, has completely switched. it's a disease that affects everyone's life. you couldn't move around freely, etc. and today there are no restrictions, and we say it's all likes to food thing. i see it's just a junk. of course, it does say something though. so. good. yeah. but they were looking for a reason to express their appreciation. that's it. oh, yes. okay. so that, that i saw over there. now i'd like to come back to one interesting point you raised to western media ubiquitously appearing in africa. and also in russia. and
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russia is trying to include a media portrait of africa through various media outlets, which includes r t, how do you see this initiative? the post. it's rather a positive thing because other ways of getting information would be the ability to travel to move from country to country. and so i want the internet is not available to everyone. we have many of the tools for comparison, for the average person who stays in the back country is contents with just a simple radio receive a as the struggle, speak up frequency, g, y dot notes. and even if it does, it's r f i o live onto the roof, and that's it. it's basically the only source of information song because it's an interpretation and the transmission of information it wouldn't be transmitted. and they realized the advantage of that, despite this interference, they are beginning to be critical of the west in the processing of information is, are they really the so it's a very positive trend on russia, spots to work on providing information. it will be beneficial for all of us.
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they'll just get all the details of the service after talking to various participants in the summit. it seems that there is a demand from the population for i take 1st city a few points to help them develop their own opinions. yes. yes. of course, of course, because there is a design to bring. yesterday i was invited to a panel discussion on time, african is in its origin, and it was intended by the children of those who gave political expressions to this time african is, i'm not saying all of a time by mentality the moon, but everyone was there to discuss upon african ism and its origins. it surprised me . i felt very proud of that because at one time is some of that initiative was launched in frequently by president get that free. but that was expected to understandable. he's an african, the leader of an african country is perfectly natural, says russia is nothing african country, but it's still k is about this issue. this is a really positive thing,
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and we africans will need to take advantage of best to explain the more precisely what pam african ism is, how exactly to come to this african solidarity that the found is our parents who created this concept with striving to establish on the consummate and i'm very grateful to rushes to considering these things. and how would you define pan african is this african solidarity bots on a high level, you're a foreigner, you come to my village. i said, you interesting to, you know, it's small of them. that is what was at the heart of the conception of the european union and the ability to confront big commonalities, like the united states, china and other countries to occupy almost whole continents to become, to gain well, i cannot mccloud the phone. let me see. i cannot make social because of cologne utilization. we lost a lot in terms of culture and identity. and in the fifty's and sixty's, people thought it was important for us to come together. stand up to these pretend is the danger. then it seemed to come more from the europeans who came to col,
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nice us now trying to raise active. the united states is active and it's kerry white numbers are important on a cultural level. having started thinking about this many years ago, we believe that we need to what to be recognized. after all the country, 1000000 people is a community. and then the voters that have been drawn sitting around a table in the lane or somewhere else. there's such countries in africa, it seems that pan african isn't as a concept, is becoming more and more popular, more more people are talking about it. is this really the case weight? yes, it is becoming more and more popular, but you have to teach it more because many political leaders prefer to be king of the village rather than the route of the city. no, no, i have my own the country, i want sovereignty. i want to be in charge. i want, we need to go beyond this kind of thinking and consider the community. the people much larger and much more useful community. so 8 policies. it all takes time. it takes education. it's all slowly evolving through the discussion of these concepts
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with several most us in the middle. yes, it's starting to develop and many young people, even young africans who grew up in the west, starting to adhere to these concepts, trying to communicate them to others, to explain them. and that's a positive thing of the western media, especially the french media, do not hesitate to denigrate the pen african, his movements, the supporters of sovereignty and de, legitimize it at the 1st opportunity. what do you think are the reasons for this? the reason for marrying? yeah, the principle of divide and rule. if the master is a dispatcher, it's much easier to control when the population of the country is one to 2000000 people. that is much easier to manipulate, to control these people. that's the reason why they're moving in that direction. is such a guest system? are these attempts at manipulation effective? do they work? they work because we allow ourselves to be brides. they not effective 100 percent of the time,
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but you can see the some latest do not subscribe to the concepts of pan african is they prefer the concept of everyone will keep their little privileges were afraid of losing their privileges in such a large community. it takes a lot of explaining to show the benefits of membership in logic groupings or off. okay. yeah, because there are many people in the you want to leave this type of big association . are there no contradictions here? after all, brooks, it happened not so long ago. the u. k. left the e. u. a few years ago. and here we are talking about africa, which wants to unite into one block. there are advantages and disadvantages. avenue . yes, in my opinion, everything in life has its advantages and disadvantages, but i believe and many agree with me that the pros of united nations almost significant to the cones, whether we like it or not, we did not respond to become a 2nd a you. but we respond to become an end states that can make decisions and implement them by making decisions for 200000 people is not the same as making decisions for
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a much larger union. the majority view is that the outcome of unification will be positive. we're not focusing on break said yes, you can't take no that example, but they're all big unions. they work. and you can take an example from the so this is what can we wish for africa today in the 21st century, so that it can finally follow the path of development and prosperity, which as you say, would be common to everyone. what could we wish for africa in that regard? as i said, we are in a situation today. we need technology, that costs, we have some technology, but we need more to develop certain things. of the country still need role materials, but they do not have that. we do and so why not organize in exchange, which is now co, many called a win win cooperation. you get the role materials you need, we get the technology to increase the pace of development so that you don't pilot all the things that you don't need. all the things that button you were able to mind, co, bolts and produce computers, phones and so on. we have
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a solid amounts accumulated in aggregating, but we don't have the technology, we can trade it for other technologies that we need. so we don't take these results is the grunted. let's try to maintain about it. said to be brief, to keep both parties on the winning side in this way. so that's what we want to see. the africa of the future in front of us to fight the pressing environmental problems. the increasing hate the one point i went to europe and suddenly realized that it was most of that then in egypt, it was in front and counted hate that i've never experienced in africa. well, this is because they've cut down the forest as you please exploited the most less late for you and today we're paying for it together. and africa may have been affected even more than some western countries. a newman. exactly. and now the only hope left hinges on priscilla income guy, and we told not to touch anything, not to cut anything down. why not? while europe continues to the forest exterminate and disturb the harmony of nature?
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a lot of different most all in the name of progress see on saturday. we are not to be in the name of progress and yet they tell us not to touch a thing. we say yes, you're right. we want to interrupt your environmental work thoughts if you want us not to interrupt it, then respirations must be made. otherwise, we will do is you do exploit natural resources to develop and then we will all have to deal with the consequences together, which is exactly what we're facing right now. so let's try to be fat and consider the interest of old policies on it. well, let's hope that your message is getting through mister lumber. thank you for answering our questions. thank you. and thank you for joining us. the,
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[000:00:00;00] the, by the early 1950. can you, it became one of the centers of resistance to colonialism in africa. the british invaders infringed on the most basic rights of the local population, great britain to pursue the policy of squeezing out the local population from their indigenous lands. the best airable areas were given to white farmers, dooming canyon step 5 or de, and hunger. this caused the sharp protest of the peasants and led to the emerging of the mile mile movement, which started the fight against the invaders. the rebels called themselves canyon, land and freedom army. the spiritual leader of the movement would be anti colonial, active as jo, mo, kenyatta to freedom fighters used guerrilla tactics and attacked the individual
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units of the british troops. the latter responded with massive air rays and artillery effect. when suppressing the uprise of london relied on the maximum cruelty over $50000.00 canyons were killed. about 300000 people were thrown into prisons and concentration camps, where george here in no way inferior in girl z to the nazis, was widely practiced. the veracity of the colonial list only led the temporary success. in 1963, the british empire had to recognize the independence of gain yet, however, the colonial regime left behind a trail of blood and wounds that canyon nation has not recovered from on sale. now,
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[000:00:00;00] the known in vietnam, american war, the vietnam war. last, it's almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. not any time now, and then you don't really know what hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to bank the south vietnamese on me. i bought that, not many american soldiers, limited resistors, most of the slaves,
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the down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals. and even lee lead up day by all right. did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did on the vietnamese veterans ready to forgive? yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that way. it's too late. but yeah,
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