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the as soon as i live and especially for the missing problem. all right, thank you very much for your time. well, we can state now the 2nd trasha off because time it has taken place regardless of what the western media try to write about that. what do you see around us today? those the 1st best lease from what there was 2 in that 1st saw made for years ago in 2019. what has changed things that you have the most, there's meaningful samples. i think the very approach hasn't changed during that 1st summit. our goal was to declare that russia is returning to africa. we were

making a statement today. so there was a session when a speaker said that in russian, the verb to do has 2 aspects. you perspective and in protective name perspective aspects needs to be doing walter effective means to finish doing something to arrive at a certain result. so i think as the summit we arrived at great results because we were speaking very specifically very consistently. we realize that the african market is usually promising for us. i mean, we really came to understand that on all levels, not just on the level of flex worked with africa, could be an opportunity. but because we need it, we need it because many other markets that we use to look at are now closed for us . willingly or not. we had to set our sights on all their marcus, including the african war. well, we have worked with china for quite a while in that market has grown by 2 or 2.5 times. now,

the african market still remains a place that we need to expand. we are willing to do that. and what's important, we realize that we should cooperate with africa, not only through trade, but through helping build advocacy future on the base of its goals. and those goals are, 1st of all, industrial development and energy development, followed by improvement of education and scientific cooperation. this is the same range of opportunities that russia can open up for africa because those are rushes trunk to it. as, for example, we had this science session today. i've just come back from it. so when they were planning it, our scientists would ask this, what are we going to talk about with the africans? so one of the speakers was me, hired cobalt structure, and then head of the course, shut the institute where the atom make bomb was created. maybe it is thanks to that bomb we are still alive because me hire over to would say had it not been for the

bomb. the whole world would have long bean and americans call in a so called our troops noted. and his address that the 1st textbook of x rays, he had read as a student, was published in 1939 by a south african scientists with via the votes africans and us have similar approaches to science. we both talk about scientific and technological sovereignty . they ask, why should we just adopt others technologies? we need to develop our own and rely on our century long experience and we'd be interest of our countries in mind. instead of doing something that somebody else's needs, that is fine as through grants and serves to advance someone else's agenda. one of the sessions devoted to the environmental agenda, a young woman from an african country you was speaking. and i had the impression that she had been completely trained and school to in this western approach. she spoke a lot about the green agenda about the importance of advancing it and about how

many issues are important to africa. however, older than these 3 points, she said nothing else, no word was said about how to combine those problems. what has to be changed? who is responsible for the climate situation that we find ourselves in and why countries the didn't contribute so much to the pollution of the environment like africa, for example. now for some reason have to pay for the mistakes of others. you know, if i could have recorded a video of her, it would have been an example of how young people are trained now in the west. besides, i speak certain african languages. so i addressed that young woman in her countries, native language. but she immediately switched to english. it goes to show that ross, i cannot afford to miss it. oppertunity. if we stop our efforts in active cooperation with africa, we are going to boost africa because the west has lots of programs to brain wash africa's use. and they are willing to take well to do that. what's important though

is that there was very few people like that girl here. most of our form guess from africa, know very well what they want from restaurant. that's one thing. the 2nd they realized though we are in the same boat, we both want to get rid of the legacy of you calling elizabeth, which hasn't gone anywhere. moreover, it's taking new forms, one of the worst of which is the intellectual and information space. it applies also to the field of mass media or western media outlets dominate. it applies to the intellectual spirit as well when both education and science are designed to serve the interest of the west. we have a common understanding of our goals and a common desire to resist pressure. africans shows that very vividly during the summit was there can be a lot to talk about on this. and that has been coverage and media that was the 1st time it had 44 presidents. only 17 presidents showed up this year. well,

let's not pride about the number of presidents in attendance. let's look at the real results. especially considering that a total of $29.00 delegations came to rush off from africa, which is a very good number which accredited as sort of those funds to some of them. and you mentioned the same boat that we are rain. i think there is yet to not the us back to where we share the same boat and that is the values. this is the values that are being enforced now will be a moral wants, touching up on things like family, gender, and old base. we see resistance on the part of african countries against the enforcement of those values, d. c. we have these commonality between russia and africa. countries in this aspect as well. do we give them up remodeling cases? certainly, i will share a little secret with you when we're preparing for the lenary session. we talked with the president of our country, legitimate, who attempted to arrive before the session began and talked to the participants of

the plenary session, ask them short questions. and during that conversation, results excellent present into my reception, said that people needed to build the walls to which our president responded, is that's the most important thing is well, the main goal of what we are trying to do. she said, of course not that we need to reach a certain level and that is true. the west is focused on over consumption and that doesn't make any sense. who needs all that? then i phones are 20 pairs of shoes, will not make you happy, or eating hamburgers all day will not make you happier. but that is the model. they offer consumers and the devoid of any spiritual dimension people are taught to consume and not give back. in session attitude is spreading globally, it is imposed on the african countries present to this some example that everyone should follow. and if i are to,

because it's not even the scariest part of the scariest part is the tag on human nature itself that we see happening in the west kind of some old as gender diversity, transgender persons and everything. this agenda brings about it will get us to the point where instead of leaving beans, we will have semi engineers, bio robots who might be beautiful on the outside capable of satisfying their desires. but they will not be able to reproduce the child, the concept and promotion of same sex relationships will lead humanity to instead, and we will become make something. do you understand that? and we will die spiritually before we die. physically, who needs a world without spiritual values, africa understands this well. and african countries react to so called democratic values in no uncertain terms. the president of you've gone the, you already know said benny, who is wildly respected in africa, was very clear when he talked about the issue that he's not the only one africans

are aware of the importance of spiritual religious values and the into religious dialogue. that patriarch carol of moscow talked about the majority of africans of christians. but there are a lot of muslims to do. you understand the importance of such dialogues. they know that as humans, we must grow spiritually, intellectually and culturally africa's culture is very rich and there are thousands of ethnic groups there. there are similarities and differences and it is important to value every human being every make or cultural groups. and i think that during this 4, and we've demonstrated that russia and africa shared this approach with who is that you mentioned the preparation of the plan, the recession that you moderate with the russian president for some mom, the participants. can you tell us more about that? how did you feel moderate in the conversation? what impressed you the most?

did you hear any ideas that you thought for a very important no garden? your simple i by chance it was a great responsibility. of course, i wouldn't say there was fear because this was the 2nd time for me. i also model rate as a session at the 1st nomic for in the format was a bit different back then present inputs in and egypt president had this that's, that has to be c came to the stage from the audience. i delivered their addresses and went back to their seats, where as this time we were all on the stage the whole time and discuss the issues that concern rough shot and i forgot the most. unfortunately, due to time limitations, people couldn't ask questions as the moderator i was task. we've given a brief introduction for each speaker, and then i had to summarize their main talking point. trust me. this wasn't easy. despite being a member of the russian academic of sciences, a well educated person with extensive public speaking experience,

i still felt the pressure. what impressed me the most is the people that were present in the room. 2 participants were hired to be there. our present in as the head of the some is host country and as on the us and mommy, president of the common rooms and the current chair person of the african union. but i was surprised to see some other prominent figures there. our patriarch, for example. he came to the plenary session because the form didn't just focus on economic issues. it was also a humanitarian event, and patriarch to real was there to contribute to the humanitarian agenda. talk about spiritual values and the future of humanity. duma, recessive presence was a surprise result doesn't seem to have anything to do with africa. but going back to our conversation before the pondering, she mentioned along with another panelist, benefit or ahmad, that some brazilian regions as try can be close to africa. their dance and music styles,

their approach to life and even the color of their skin are very similar. in essence, brazil is a country with very strong historical and cultural ties to africa. as for benefits or amok, his participation was quite expected. he was also present at the plenary of the previous forum, held insult she in 2019. this time he was invited as well. the 1st russia has a big share in africa in that 25 percent. if i'm not mistaken, is this a 2nd making our cooperation work financially? is one of the most pressing issues on the agenda? how will we end africans make payments to each other? yesterday i moderated a session on fertilizer exports organized by you are awesome and we have the head of x i or nick it. that was sort of on the panel. he said there are 3 main ways for us to solve the problem. first, we will likely have to adopt the one in the short term. if we want to avoid using

the dollar. it's not ideal for rochelle, but it makes sense in short term. the 2nd stage will be trying to use national currencies. but in order to do that, we need to balance our imports and exports to end from africa, currently rationalize exports and 5 times more than it is important. our companies may sell goods for local currencies, but how will they spend that money? the 3rd option was the most interesting, and naturally it was welcomed by the african countries. we would invest our profits from selling our those into the development of local industry. after local industries developed, we can get dividends this way is very interesting. the applicants applauded, they said it's just what they need, but it's a long term strategy. it does not produce immediate results. you must wait 5 or 10 years. but it's relevant in view of all that was discussed at the plenary and the speech of our president and covered every aspect of our cooperation. you may have

noticed that you also dedicated a substantial part of speech to the humanitarian. ask that including the development of education and youth because africa has so many you. 60 percent of africans are younger than $25.00 the present and also announcing please quotas. you mentioned that our top ration should be based on technology, co partnership, right? for me was the most pleasing thing to hear, and i've been saying this for long, you just need to find something for yourself in this applicants in denver. and the session we held fundamental science, the cornerstone of technological sovereignty, was a confirmation of that was really, really happy. the african expects us to provide the technologies with it, but they said that they needed in a logical independence just as we do. because ross tries also technologically dependent, and the west is also offering technologies to us. i think it was the minister of

education of molly, who said that we should work for our selves. instead of working for the west. we must be the side, which means to study, to read our own research, instead of copying the west. but what we're being offered is to copy this copy in this universal is and there's no rush on or off because with their diverse and unique multinational cultures. what they upset when they talk to representatives of african countries. many of them mentioned this term cooperation that existed in the soviet times and see the trash of them became self absorbed for several decades. and now has finally turned back to africa. no, we're seeing increasing focus on the continent. do you think russia is doing enough? what else can we do to intensify the corporation? i know with which i'm gonna give it across with many of the africans. i talked to asked me, how can we be sure that russia was not abandoned us will not leave us high and dry

like you did when the us as our fell apart. i assured them that we won't do that though. we haven't really needed to deal with the problems at home, but the, our self absorption was a mistake because our domestic problems are very much connected to our foreign policy. and the african strategy should be integrated with our countries development entrance. china has always done this. it's really important that we learn from china in this regard. what can be done to intensify this partnership? i'm the 1st and infrastructure a partnership needs to be created and it should be based on partnership between the public and private sectors. we won't companies to work on the african continent in the state to provide the necessary conditions. but it shouldn't only be for $3520.00 or 30 big companies. what perfectly capable of working in africa is we need to support regional enterprises. small and medium sized businesses, and we need them to build ties with their african partners through their

cooperation. so that's one thing that we've infrastructure that it's easy to understand. the 2nd we need to build financing mechanisms. how will the projects be financed? who will do it? this needs to be decided. will it be the state and business? only business or only the state? i think all 3 are possible. 3rd, we need to decide about payment. many africans, including benedicts ramos said, look, we're ready to trade in roubles, but where do we get the rules? who will make them available physically? both the ministry of finance and the central bank are very concerned about this. so we need to address this. in other words, there's a whole range of issues to be addressed, but at least we understand what we were talking about. talking about trade, we need to stop trading with africans to european intermediaries. i'm serious, despite all the sanctions, many tropical farming products are still purchased in this round about way

a triple cost, just because it's convenient for us to do it through your partners. if we want to end this situation and we need to build our own international cargo insurance and re insurance system and build our own logistics, some companies are ready to do that. the far eastern shipping company headed by andre, so that he loved please. an interesting person by the way, is ready to do it. they already launching their own lines to egypt and morocco, and they're willing to work in west and east last week as well. so. so, so if we establish it clear making isn't defined, the tools, make the decision and commit to it. i believe our cooperation will double or even triple in the coming years. and the 40 per ethan was to, to extend to new colonial policies on the flash drive for these partnership, which is colon, perhaps lower than we on the african countries would like. but it's there, you know, colonialism is a multi layer concept. it includes the ongoing attempts to impose democracy upon

african countries, which are opposed street because it's contrary to the nature and there are many of them, monday, the stations. so how much do you think these attempts these various, many of his patients, including the efforts to therapy, to the saw me to propel the intensification of russia, africa relations, the sentence to on the one hand destructive. but on the other hand, they drive forward. these partnership, ironically, that is if you are absolutely right, the essential sloughed by the west on us to bolster our relations with all the regions of the world. technically because the countries we use to interact with are no longer available. this is number one. they also help in terms of ideological motivation. the africans, we have faced the rows of connie ellis and neo colonial policies know well, well, what they are doing with that is unlike some of our closest neighbors we're brain washed and are told that russia is

a colonial power. that who has never really experienced colonial rule in the history. on the contrary, russia always invested much more in them than it did in itself. they had far higher live in sanders. lots of yeah. is sonia and lithuania. i have always had the highest standard of living. we all know that the africans at 1st hand experience of colonialism, they bore the brunt of it and quoting the variable situation in the democratic republic of the congo country that was treated by king leopold. the 2nd of belgium as his private property, the congolese people were taken to brussels and displayed in the zoo. and in the congo, europeans use the african bodies to try robber. they smeared the robbers that over them, and once it dried, tore it off with their skin and pages, the wound blah, was murdered there. and you know, this act of returning his gold crowned tooth. i don't know. it's out of all proportion. and africans realized, is that some human, completely in here me,

they realized that when the west sells them to keep away from russia, shaking his fist at them. that's neo colonial. isn't the african say to that that they want to pick their partners on their own? because they are silver and countries, and we'll partner with whoever they want. so the west is getting a backlash from africa. they all these the over did, the pressure is a chest. to date everyone's task that the world has changed. and advocates changing to the frequent countries a very diverse they differ a significantly from one another. and yet they are united the community that's willing to be a player in the world enrolled order, is that it's going your son, you present those now it just, they want to play a meaningful part of course, and most importantly, to do it in independence over in way they know full well the advocates significance is growing. they say themselves, the advocate will be home to almost

a 3rd of the world's population quite soon. this means that the flow of goods or production chains will be redirected to that region to a considerable extent. after the currently has the fastest growing middle class, it's faster than asia, even china. so you could say that africa is like a tiger boys to leap forward the same as china in the early 19 ninety's. and it's clear, the africa's role in the global economy is going to increase the for the an agency to fully formed. it needs to be supported, not by the west, which can only provide state assistance, but by the countries that are really prepared to live africa. partner with whoever it wishes to a boy has said that equals silver and states should interact on an equal basis. partnership with such countries is a 2 way street. if we want to work with africa, we need to understand what it means, what we, our cells need and look for the most beneficial areas for cooperation,

which reports. and it's in the permanent representative of russia. do they do an sat that western 8 to africa is a hit ball, christine. the west overlooks crisis their antics townsley to help test for the sake of publicity, and what kind of help can russia offered to make a difference and better meet the needs of africans for the summer, gladly put in substance, then we pick the swell. we are following the principle of giving an efficient road instead of fish. yes, we are taking part in all programs. through the u when world food program, we have supplies, fertilizers, making 2 shipments, kenya and one to my lowie. absolutely free. and we had to overcome a lot of barriers. we are ready to supply 300000 tons and move that is welcomed by the african countries. we are providing food 8, president to and has said that this $1000000.00 tons of we even less that ukraine

had supplied to africa. and now after the green deal was canceled, it won't be able to deliver more. but we're ready to give it for free. over the last 18 months since the beginning of the special military operation, we have supplied africa with $22000000.00 tons or $22.00 times more than ukraine has done. this is what i want to stress. the west hippa critic lease is that russia has not delivered. now. russia is orchestrating stineman. the compare 1000000 and 22000000. most importantly, we are not just donating, we can provide humanitarian helps, for instance, assist in training and national workforce today. a lot has been said not only about higher education, but about vocational training to by the way this question was overlooked here in russia as well. remember, we used to have these vocational schools. now, they are replaced with some colleges, but they are less efficient. back to our health, it should be practical and not showing. once they did a study on german aid,

it turned out that every 4 out of 5 votes marks were paid to drum specialists involved in the project. the people who dealt with that 8 and decided when he should go, it means that only one in 5 judge marks or 20 percent was real health. we are doing things differently. we need to have a blessed. let me ask you one last question. here on the sidelines of the forum, i talked to woman from sending goals, who had moved to st. petersburg alone and go to my surprise, she started telling me how much and come on we russians house with the senegalese. you talk to a lot of people from africa. is there any thing common between russians and africans? is a full yes. yes, of course. there is. i agree, african say that russian mentality is closer to them than that of china, for example, or europe. africans are not over organized, they can get things done informally. you know, they once told me that both russians and africans can settle matters by unwritten

rules. it's funny but it's true. then russians are open hearted and kind, you know, russian people how we rushed to help our friends and can put everything on hold for their sake and africans. i'd say we have a rich culture that we value and we also take interest in other cultures. we are interested in other people to not just ourselves, there is individual is and as opposed to collectivism, i believe we have a collectivist mind and africa is collective is historically collective economy, the communal farming models at both africa. and ross, i used to have has defined our geno type. we need to be part of the community. part of it seem to be open towards others, and africans are like that to thank you so much. it was very exciting to talk to you the

in their cells. and, you know, i mean, there are things that black and white in nature for the western approach to any of the internal personal interpersonal interstate relationship is one of the like. the white realities are many, many seats, or both different colors, different states, and other chinese last pre approach to the issue is, you know, if we're different, we don't work together. the the,

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