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move on to say the goal greetings everyone. we're here with roland bloomberg. had of the patrice emory limone, but foundation. good afternoon, mr. lumber. good afternoon. let's start with this. why is it important for you to be here in saint petersburg? for the rush african summit? it just seems simple song plus the foundation is happy to be present, whereas africa can or should make decisions. so we get to witness what's going on 1st hand and participate. we believe that it's out of all the continents of the world. there is still much to be done in africa. the us felt it was important to organize a conference with africa, china and from civil side on the side. and it is quite natural that a big country like russia is not lagging behind them or was invited to the 1st somebody in searching. we believe that all countries both need each other,
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especially because we don't have and they haven't had historical claims against rush at all the soviet union as we do against other countries on issues of all shit balls. and we don't forget that the union contributed to our freedom, helped some african countries to free themselves, a back colonial status. all in all, i see only the positives and i think it's important to identify opportunities for positive development together as platform where everyone can speak out loud and you have something set since the corner of a technician might come up, we'll get back to that. but now i'd like to ask your opinion on the people's friendship, university of russia, one of the most prestigious universities in the country. once more being named in honor of patrice lumber, i imagined that was important for you as someone who is dedicated to preserving the legacy of patrice limone by the con, the least statesman who is considered the 1st national hero of the democratic republic of congo. after its independence, he said russia was part of his journey and he left her rich legacy here maybe is
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the cause. it was of great importance to us. we followed the story with great interest. when we found out that it happened, we couldn't miss the chance to write to the russian authorities and the academic community to thank them once again for the only given to one great here, right to a here right with the come go of africa, end of the well, on his memory has been on it and we're very grateful for this. just yeah, the oscar bleeding finance for the can you tell us a little bit about the contribution the lumber made to the development of strong ties between your region and the then soviet union. and later on to relations with russia. how did that relationship come about? it last saw the relationship with them, but really developed when he saw support from the un was refused. he then turned towards the soviet union. they agreed to provide him with an airplane and of course it wasn't anything grand, but it showed an eagerness to help us. and from that point on the many of his
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opponents began to regard him as a communist. although our country at that time had not yet developed an understanding of the concept of communism for the after his death, the then the soviet union educated many of his associates relations with good advice during the members lifetime and off to his death. as you know, the members associates remain loyal to the us as well as a new to yet. and so you could say that he was the one who started this relationship fairly nice. yeah, yes. you could put it that way. he established that relationship when he made his request. and then he fought for simulate principles. backed in the soviet union was helping a number of countries from and go to, to mozambique. countries that were progressive for the time. and then they were fighting the same cause. it will still come off. so what i source and how has this relationship changed up until today? you mentioned higher education. are there other areas in which the special relationship has developed or not in the congo?
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no, of course some members of the leadership went to patrice and a member university. they didn't become overly pro western, but it's believed that in the bhutto became these young dom with the united states and our region. so this is more likely to apply to other countries in the region. so during mobutu his rule, the country turned its back on russia. why the, it may seem, pay us exactly for the entire. so if you for years then, and a well divided into 2 camps, the members associates found more supports in the eastern bloc countries, made the payment of the problem the form. but after the end of mo, booties rule, the relation start to improve again. when the end of the boots, those real came, should be mentioned that at that time pressure was beginning its recovery from the collapse of the soviet union and relations with the african countries. love is not so long ago and said the menu, exactly. the relations had gone down, never less where a game determined to review my relations because we have
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a certain affection for russia. it's very noticeable for the people. so in your opinion, what is the secret of this close mutual affinity between russia and africa? so going to say, as i said before, we don't have a painful pause in all relations with russia. nothing there tomorrow, relations. but come, yes, unlike relations with the west which have been scarred by the slave trade color lies ation. neo colonialism. we're still trying to shed light on some of the manifestations. yes, we cooperates but not on an equal foot tape because with russia everything that's happened has been on the clean grounds. you can say that immediately without pause to think about it. and this is what we've been striving for, for almost 60 years of the independence to be respected, to be accepted as equals. we're striving for a relationship that is beneficial to both. despite the propaganda, this being made against russians in africa, it's noticeable,
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but it's not changing people's attitudes as intended. the more penalty no. uh, what opinions do the african population, especially the french speaking population, have about africa. what are their thoughts on russia? c. o. if we talk about the french speaking, positive africa, the media that's have a lot of influence, listen to there. at least 90 percent west and media. we wake up to the sound of our if i bbc, voice of america, the stones towards cooperation between europe and russia. is of course, most style, but the common man doesn't feel that hostility. it's surprising and lately i can't even say what explains it. given all the techniques of the west. however, there is sympathy for a symbol of the state, such as the president, an inexplicable sympathy for president boots in these we even have such a joke in africa, especially in congo almost every way you can encounter such a concept as seniority, right?
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so this is when you respect someone who is older, you have to listen to what they tell you be respectful. yes, you have to listen to them. even the address reflects this when you address and now that you say elder brother. recently, ordinary people, when talking about putin have started quoting him, elder brother foods in my account say why? i wonder why indeed like site big brother boots and he, because of it, i say, what's the big curve? it's you that why is it the t defeated curve? it? the foldable started in ukraine. we went to sleep and woke up with constant reports that so many people died from kobe. so many people were infected toby, this guy with that, since the war broke out, if it hasn't been heard of. the media is focused, has completely switched. it's a disease that affects everyone's life. you couldn't move around freely, etc. and today there are no restrictions. and we say it's all likes to foods, and i see it's just a junk. of course, it does say something though,
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so good. yeah. but they were looking for a reason to express their appreciation. that's it as well. yes. okay, so that, that sounds good for that. now i'd like to come back to one interesting point you raised to western media ubiquitously appearing in africa and also in russia. and russia is trying to include a media portrait of africa through various media outlets, which includes r t. how do you see this initiative? the post, it's rather a positive thing because other ways of getting information would be the ability to travel to move from country to country. and so i want the internet is not available to everyone. we have many of the tools for comparison, for the average person who stays in the back country is contents with just just a little radio, receive it as the struggle, speak up frequency, g, y dot notes. and even if it does, it's r f i o live, watch the roof, and that's it. it's basically the only source of information song because it's an
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interpretation and the transmission of information it would be transmitted. and they realized the advantage of that, despite this interference, they are beginning to be critical of the west in the processing of information discussing, are they really so it's a very positive trend on russia, spots to work on providing information. it will be beneficial for all of us. they'll just get all the details of the service after talking to various participants in the summit, it seems that there is a demand from the population for i take 1st city a few points to help them develop their own opinions. yes, yes, of course, of course, because there is a desire to bring. yesterday i was invited to a panel discussion on time african is in its origins, and it was intended by the children of those who gave political expression to this time, african is a nightstand and all of the time by a friend tell us the moon, but everyone was there to discuss upon african ism and its origins. it surprised me
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. i felt very proud of that because at one time as some of that initiative was launched in tripoli by president, get that for you. but that was expected, understandable. he's an african, the leader of an african country, as perfectly natural as his fresher is nothing african country, but it's still kids about this issue. now this is a really positive thing, and we africans will need to take advantage of best to explain the more precisely what pam african ism is, how exactly to come to this african solidarity that the found is our parents who created this concept with striving to establish on the consummate and i'm very grateful to rushes to considering these things. and how would you define pan african isn't this african solidarity bucks on a high level? you're a foreigner, you come to my village. i feed you interesting to, you know, it's small of them. that is what was at the heart of the conception of the european union and the ability to confront big commonalities, like the united states, china and other countries to occupy almost whole continents to become today. well,
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i cannot mccloud putting them in seattle economic social because of cologne utilization. we lost a lot in terms of culture and identity. and in the fifty's and sixty's, people thought it was important for us to come together. stand up to these pretend is the danger then it seemed to come more from the europeans who came to col, nice us now trying to raise active. the united states is active. it's kerry white numbers are important on a cultural level. having started thinking about this many years ago, we believe that we need to what to be recognized. after all, the country, one that 1000000 people is a community. and then the borders that have been drawn sitting around a table in the lane or somewhere else. there are such countries in africa, it seems that pan african isn't as a concept, is becoming more and more popular, more more people are talking about it. is this really the case with yes, it is becoming more and more popular, but you have to teach it more because many political leaders prefer to be king of
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the village rather than the route of the city. no, no, i have my own the country. i want solvency. i want to be in charge. i want, we need to go beyond this kind of thinking and consider that community. the people much larger, a much more useful community. so 8 policies. it all takes time. it takes education that it's all slowly evolving through the discussion of these concepts with several most us in the middle here. yes, it's starting to develop and many young people, even young africans who grew up in the west, starting to adhere to these concepts, trying to communicate them to others, to explain them. and that's a positive thing. to western media, especially the french media, do not have take to denigrate japan african his movements, the supporters of sovereignty and de, legitimize it at the 1st opportunity. what do you think are the reasons for this? the reason for marrying? yeah. the principle of divide and rule. if the master is a dispatcher, it's much easier to control them. when the population of the country is one to
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2000000 people. that is much easier to manipulate, to control these people. that's the reason why they're moving in that direction. this is chris as a guest system. are these attempts at manipulation effective? do they work? they work because we allow ourselves to be brides. they not effective 100 percent of the time, but you can see the some latest do not subscribe to the concepts of pan african ism, they prefer the concept of everyone will keep their little privileges. we're afraid of losing their privileges in such a large community. it takes a lot of explaining to show the benefits of membership in logic groupings or off. okay. yeah, because there are many people in the you want to leave this type of big association . are there no contradictions here? after all, brooks, it happened not so long ago. the u. k. left the e. u. a few years ago. and here we are talking about africa, which wants to unite into one block. there are advantages and disadvantages.
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yes, in my opinion, everything in life has its advantages and disadvantages, but i believe and many agree with me that the price of uniting nations fall most significantly. the combs whether we like it or not. we did not respond to become a 2nd a you. but we respond to become an end states that can make decisions and implement them by making decisions for 200000 people is not the same as making decisions. we're much launch a union. the majority view is that the outcome of unification will be positive. we're not focusing on break said yes, you can take no that example, but there are big unions, they work and you can take an example from them. so what can we wish for africa today in the 21st century so that it can finally follow the path of development and prosperity, which as you say, would be common to everyone. what could we wish for africa in that regard? as i said, we are in a situation today, we need technology that course we have some technology, but we need more to develop certain things. other countries still need role
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materials, but they do not have that we do. and so why not organize and exchange, which is now company called a win win cooperation. you get the role materials you need a week at the technology to increase the pace of development so that you don't pilot all the things that you don't need. all the things that burden you were able to mind, co, bolts and produce computers, phones and so on. we have a solid amounts of key related an aggregate, but we don't have the technology. we can trade it for other technologies that we need. so we don't take these results is the grunted. let's try to maintain a pallet sit in the brain to keep both parties on the winning side with that's what we want to see, the temperature of the future in front of us to fight the pressing environmental problems, the increasing hate the the one point i went to europe and suddenly realized that they were spots at that. then in egypt, it was in front and counted hate that never experienced in africa whole. this is because they've cut down the forest that you place exploited the most less late for
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you. and today we're paying for it together. and africa may have been affected even more than some western countries. a newman. exactly. and now the only hope left hinges on presented income got. and we told not to touch anything, not to cut anything down. why not? while europe continues to the forest exterminate and disturb the harmony of nature, a well known to different of most all in the name of progress see on saturday. we are not to be in the name of progress. and yet they tell us not to touch a thing. we say yes, you're right, we want to interrupt your environmental work thoughts if you want us not to interrupt it, then reparations must be made. otherwise, we will do is you do exploit natural resources to develop and then we will all have to deal with the consequences together, which is exactly what we're facing right now. so let's try to be fat and consider the interest of old policies on it. well, let's hope that your message is getting through mister lumber. thank you for
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answering our questions. thank you. and thank you for joining us. the the in 1881. seeking to expand its property in north africa. france decided to attack and easy. the invasion began with a bomb barred man of the french fleet on coastal cities and was followed by standing in the ground through the french easily occupied one of the key city. please eric, and the bay of doing this bomb at the 3rd us deep agreed to humiliating negotiations
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. lombardo treaty concluded with a colonialist, establishing a project to rid of france, overton easier. however, the people loved an easy, i would not surrender to the enemy. at the call of the islamic clergy, between easy ins rose to a holy war against the invaders. the soldiers of the bays army also joined the resistance. the french groups did not get an easy walk. vieira patriots bought desperately, but failed the defeat, the huge and well armed army, which was supported by the strongest fleet within a year. the rebels where defeated. this turned out to be a real tragedy for the country. about one 7th of the population together with the fighters left for neighbouring libya. thousands of people died during the warfare. the french flag was raised over to an easy colonial authorities, tried to deprive the country of its air of identity and populated with european
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settling such an easy instead now brought up with the loss of freedom era. patriots had been fighting against french colonialism for decades until june easier gained independence in 1956 known in vietnam, american war the vietnam or lost. it's almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. not done with now. and then you can just say now, why didn't all i'm empty? hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to back the south vietnamese on me. i thought about that not, but the american soldiers miller did resist as mercilessly to down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals and even lee by all
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right, did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did on the vietnamese veterans ready to forgive? yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a ways to go. yeah. only one main thing is important for not as an internationally speaking that is, a nation's percept. uh, allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the mine and agents who are the slaves. americans, rock, obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves the american interest. if it doesn't, that doesn't exist by turning those russians into this dangerous boy,
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a man that wants to take over the world. that was the cartridge strategy. so the, the in your english v i n b, i not finished it, often. zip on in tablet block. nato said it's ours. we move east. the reason us, hey jim, it is dangerous. is it yet the by the saw or the other countries? the exceptionalism that america uses. it's international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations of nature, where this found the shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in large arms companies would lose millions of millions or is business businesses good? and that is the reality of what we're facing, which especially the
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number you use visa, stupid loyce law here yet to nothing terms in the book then that's just me very the it's the only showcase in genes nathaniel. so he's going to the boys at the boys, the probably the most name that'll be for them. i'm not sure if this slaughter doesn't want that. i faxed them, put the notes up under that the,
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