those of the testimony. well, speaking of facts, you have emails, voice recordings, text messages, and then of course, archers of testimony under oath and right before he was supposed to testify. there was quite a drama about that. as you know, he was about to be arrested by the judge and then t o j back down when there was a public outcry about that. but the fax will, will show. right now they're estimating $50000000.00 approximately in total that the biden's have embezzled. essentially, in this bribery scheme and it's all coming to light and the bank records are going to be a quite telling fact as well as archer's testimony. the, the all should hearing coming sided with a d o j courting for him to start saving his sentence on an unrelated charge. so what do you make up a timing here? oh, yes, i mean, that's pretty transparent and they're not even hiding it. i mean, the way that they've been trying to silence witnesses. i was a witness that they tried to silence. i mean, they're the, the hunter vitamin team and the burden team. jo biden's, weaponized, d o,

j and f. b. i has been very, very pointed about trying to silence witnesses that would, you know, reveal their crimes. and archer, you know, is, was a friend. in fact, hunter by you called him a by the family member practically. so he's flipped on them because he's telling the truth, finally, about what happened. and the truth is that joe biden was on 20 calls regarding this is this uh, bribery scheme, a 20 calls to for nations where they were getting money. basically, i'm using the by the name. how do you think it in the current establishment could also be tied to the hunter bite and saga? well, i mean i think that if you're going to name names, you're gonna have to look at mitch mcconnell, you're gonna have to look at democratic leadership, nancy pelosi, you're gonna have to look at john terry. and it's 3 of their children were also on the prism of board is not interesting how many american politicians children were on a board interest man. ukraine. and now here we are given millions, billions,

actually to ukraine, and it was just booted down. last week, nicky, about having accounting of where that one is going and guess who voted it down. democrats, this is archie international will have more news for you as the top of the, our senior then the so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy from foundation. let it be an arms race is on often has very dramatic. i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very unclear to get a time time to sit down and talk the

according to the president and ceo of ancestry. com, around a 30000000 people around the world have taken a dna test and more than 50 percent of the tests were ancestry kits. but what happens it to your dna after you get the results you're seeking, sky. now here's an on this edition of $360.00 view. we're going to look at the a rise in popularity of the dna industry, and what industries are purchasing and using your dna information. let's get started. the dna has come a long way over the years. well,

it might be fun to swab for 23 and me to see your family history. these ancestry dna companies have also led to solving crimes, international course lot, right, so, so on a tells us some of the biggest mysteries is solved by dna. well, scott, him, it was the kid not being that gripped the globe. a british girl was missing from a family of occasion in for to well 16 years ago modeling. mccain was just 3 years old. a polish woman julia post dina began claiming to be modeling. she began posting photos in february, saying she has a spot in her right eye, and a beauty mark on heart seek for assembly the missing mccain. girl. the biggest claim julia said, details of her child who did not add up, leaving her to believe that she was abducted as a thought here. even making these claims in appearance on the tv. so dr. phil madeline has this defect in the iris

and you have that same a phenomena, right? i'm sorry. say that's always afraid of now. um, but us, my mother, when i ask her for dna before this whole situation, when i ask her for some fixtures for her pregnancy, so child for pictures like me, it fee or for h. she was just going to finally do like god, her dna results the test. so sees 100 percent. paul is not minded. lean mccain. the missing girls parent take on gary mccain and their children have refused to acknowledge julia anger claims throughout the entire ordeal. dna was the answer to a cold case hunting the united states. a string of california rates and murders was

attributed to the golden gate. here. the case was eventually sold for the can slater, when the may from ancestry websites led to the rest of joseph james. the angelo, the 72 year old, was a former police officer, and during the times of the crime scene 1970 to 1980. in 2018 investigators reviewed the reveal the angelo much the d n a of a relative who have taken a non so street test. he must have rested without incident a local new space and spoke to one of the golden state victims. shortly after his arrest, i absolutely remember it. i remember the heat of his breath on my neck. i remember his voice. i remember the weight of his body and his knife. i remember i remembered all too much. mary wart west. just a teenager in june. 1979. when she fell victim to the golden state,

the tutor. she was a slip in her california home. when in the middle of the night, a month in a ski mask, answer her bedroom holding a knife to her throat, tying up her hands and feet and raping her. i don't care these old, i'm curious, feeble. he, i do care that he sits in lives with it until the day he dies. he just needs to die with the weight of all of the pain of all of the families. the long wants to gender is responsible for 12 homicides, almost 50 rates and 120 home burglaries and currently spent remote spending multiple life sentences increase on all through the technological power of the me. for 360 view, i'm presenting solano back to your study. wow, lots of information to process there. thank you so much work. sign up now to help us discuss is criminal offense,

attorney joseph toley. joseph totally has over 15 years experience practicing criminal law in california and has been certified as a criminal law specialist. but a california board of legal specialization. now in addition, mr. tow, it has been recognized by the national trial lawyers as a top 100 trial lawyer. thank you so much for joining us. oh, thank you for having me. this is a really interesting topic. you know, if someone chooses to have their dna or genetics tested for personal reasons, what protections are offered to the sample given? well, you're basically at the mercy of these companies and you have to read the fine print . if the company slips in there, you know, we're going to sell your genetic information or you, by signing up with us, you give us license to use this. however, we want including cooperating with law enforcement. and then you, your choices either to go through the process and if you're curious, you know, you want to do it or, or to not do it. i see lots of options,

but i have to wonder how accurate are the commercial dna services. so that's part of the problem here, is it, we're talking about this mix of, you know, the criminal law world with the, with the, with the commercial world of, you know, your, your genes. but in a court room, you know, you can, you can cross examine witnesses experts in order for evidence to come into a court room. it needs to past past scientific muster. there, there's the certain legal tests that, that the information is scientifically valid. however, in these commercial genetic testing labs, there's no such regulation. so it's not designed to provide forensic analysis in court room cases. so it's really up to the lab and there's,

there's no true regulation of what's going on right now. we're, we're in the early days of genetic testing, and after the sample is given, who's property is it? it would depend on what the licensing agreement is or would be. agreement is, again, we all buy things. every day we buy computers, we buy cellphones, we sign up for facebook, we sign up for instagram, twitter, and in a lot of these things, you know, take talk assignments for this. and all of the services have spike provisions in there. really they're, they're saying, look, even if the app isn't on, we're going to listen to you. we can sell that information. i mean, we, in the last decade signed up for almost 24 hour monitoring by these, the corporate um, you know, corporate corporations. so here it's the same thing with genetic testing.

again, there's no regulation right now. the based on what's going on with the law enforcement, you hear a law enforcement found this, you know, this suspect, or they've got leads by doing this. well, that's because they're allowed to do it. so presumably these companies are working hand in hand with law enforcement because they're able to do so. maybe you can help clarify this for me. what are the differences in labs between dna, which is tested by commercial services, or by law enforcement and criminal cases? there's no regulation, so it's not the same. regulation would bring standards that would bring protocols. and in court there's, there's a test. it's called the kelly fried test, and it's a see, it kind of governs what evidence can come into a court room. but before the person who wants to introduce out evidence can

presented in court. if the other side objects, then the, the proponent of the evidence has to prove to the court judge this a scientific merit. this is widely accepted within the scientific community. so they don't have to prove that this is the best methodology out there. but they have to prove that it's widely accepted and that most scientists within that peer community would accept these results. whereas with these private companies, it's literally private companies. and the, the labs are not set up in the same way that a lab would be set up for a forensic case in a criminal case. now, back in 2020 the investor firm blackstone acquired ancestry dot com. we've actually heard relatively little about this acquisition since, are you concerned about the security of the data,

which is history dot com owns considering? and blackstone has more than 230 other companies who would find the dna very valuable. yes, i think the, you, you fit the nail on the head, this is, this is a huge privacy concern. and a lot of times people, you know, and in my experience don't understand privacy, the the 4th amendment. and what do those people you'd say, okay, here, give me your wallet. let's say, what do you, what do you want? my wallet for one, i'm going to show it to everybody in the room. i'm going to walk around the park this afternoon and just let everybody touch and deal look through your wallet. people would instantly say no. if you said, hey, give me your cell phone, hey, what's wrong if you have nothing to hide? what are you worried about? but, you know, i think kind of putting uh, giving an example where the rubber meets the road is, is really, really critical here. and, you know, again, our, our conversations are being monitored and then that's being sold to people who want to sell us stuff by internet corporations. and it could be the same thing here,

where people imagine if there's, you know, predispositions towards diseases or certain types of entertainment, or, you know, we, you could be, you can have your, your genome basically cracked and hacked and they can study it with, with all the money that these, these investor groups have, i mean we're talking about deep, deep pockets and they could start specializing, you know, selling data uh, for commercial purposes, not based on your, your web browsing history, but based on your genetic code. i mean think about that. interesting. thank you so much, joseph tali. now after the break, we're going to continue this discussion, look at the ethics of dna being collected commercially being used in a criminal process. the

. the question of the money, i mean, you love to do most schools do. if you look on the initial do one of course significant dealer post on zillow, while it be almost getting used to put value, where do you do oil change? but you also still, this is done, the newest 3 government building systems to do what i see these the buses. the little gear limitation says this tutorial dump most of the

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a trust rather than fit the various. i mean with the artificial intelligence we have so many with him in the a robot must protect his phone, existence was on the welcome back. you are watching the 360 view. i'm a scouting now hughes. we're going to continue our discussion about the value of dna in a criminal court with our guest criminal defense attorney and joseph tali. joseph, thank you so much for continuing this conversation. you know, i wonder officers can submit dna samples obtained by g. d, match and family tree dna to the only genealogy websites which allow law enforcement access to the databases in court. should dna obtained by commercial

services be made accessible in criminal proceedings. so again, there's, there's a push in full to everything and as the years go on we will, this is not figure it out, completely gets better at it. so here there's a lot of cold cases that been solved. i think the, the brian colberg or case where he is accused of stabbing for college students in wisconsin. that was solved by genetics. there, there is a lot of old, you know, coal cases that brings piece to, to the families that bring security to society. on the other hand, we're having these, these corporations sell us out or, or be very, very invasive. again, people wouldn't want to give up their cell phone. why would they want to give up

their, their genetic code? um, even if you have nothing to hide, it's not really what's, what, what's on you. it's really about where it is going and who's going to have it. can you trust that person? can you trust that person to act ethically? do you think that person cares as much about your privacy as you do? do you think the person cares about the genetic privacy that that you have, or the privacy that you have in your own genes in a testing has lied to conviction, but can also prove innocence. therefore, for someone who is innocent, what did they be favorable to dna testing if they were being charged criminally? is certainly yes. we have the innocence project, which for decade over a decade now has freed n is innocent. people, people who are factually innocent, they didn't do it. and genetic testing has freed them. on the other hand,

we haven't seen some of the, the down sides of the invasion into privacy just yet. and maybe the technology hasn't been there. so that the, you know, people who are holding this could have use it. again, information is power and getting genetic information about someone could lead to having an immense amount of power over them. so, you know, the secret to life is balance. and we have to balance here, privacy versus all the, the wonderful uses that genetic unlocking can bring versus the detrimental benefits or the detrimental, the down sides. so for instance, there's privacy, there's lack of consent. we have accuracy and reliability concerns. and we have instances where this could not only be used against one person,

but could be used against people, you know, group genetic groups, or what is genetic discrimination? and how do dna testing factor in? so imagine if the law enforcement has an incomplete profile and they say, well, we know the killer, the robber, the burglar, the rapist, has, you know, it is, uh, is a male is of this racial group. then the police could go to a certain area and kind of use that as a pretext to kind of start shaking down members of that group, whether they have probable cause or not. well, you know, we know it's this certain group. there's only, uh, let's say, you know, one percent of that population in this city. let's go to, you know, where the population is concentrated and, and start, you know, doing

a shakedown, so to speak, that that would be the concern. or is this a craze all over the world, or just in the west? it's happening all over the world. so, agent, generally speaking, i do lots of commentary on, on legal analysis, you know, supreme court cases, how, what i tell people is that if you had to bet, you know, i don't have a crystal ball. but if you had to bet that on the ruling coming down on the side of the concentration of power and less rights to the people, more power of the corporations, more power to the government. that's the, that's the forward to your trends that we're in right now. and based on people's beliefs in walking around the street, and i don't see that ending any time soon. i don't see it being a concern of people. i see people accepting it,

accepting it and accepting it. however, it, at some point, i think it might be a situation where, you know, eating a sleeping giant is awakened. isn't this data being harvested from the 3rd world like it is here in the west and for what purpose? so i think that it is very possible for a more sophisticated well the western corporation to go into a 3rd world country and work with corrupt leaders, corrupt dictators who sell out their population for money to these corporations. and then we have the situation that we're talking about here. here we have a very good bill of rights, a very good constitution. you know what's left out of it after you know this, these last 4 years of judges and appellate courts kind of striking it down. but in 3rd world populations and in 3rd world countries,

they don't have the constitution that we have and they don't have the mentality of, of, of concepts, of individual liberty. so i, i can't speak to any certain countries by name, but i could say that you're really raising an important point that we've seen what corporations do with respect to mining. we've seen with what corporations do with, with respect to raw materials, with respect to populations in terms of their labor. so this really is a recipe for disaster. and i think that, you know, the important point that you're bringing up is that this is not only a national discussion for us. this is a global discussion for all of humanity. what regulations or oversight would you suggest need to be established in order to protect individuals in the future?

i think we would have to deal with the right of privacy again as the tendency of people in power, whether it be government or corporations is to abuse power in the end. and it's to grow that power as well. once you have power, you want to keep growing it. so i think a good model actually is, is our constitution because it says, listen, you can't stop humans from wanting more or acting in their own self interest. so the best way to deal with that is to pick these individual groups against each other so that you have checks and balances. so i think we need rigorous scientific standards. and if we are going to use genetics in, in court, then those labs need to be regulated to the same standard as a forensic lab would be, let's say, in, in, in a county or federal department where they're responsible for testing evidence and,

and bringing it into court so i think, you know, regulating the labs, regulating privacy and perhaps a global bill of rights for all of humanity, recognizing the right to their privacy in terms of their own genetics. very, you honestly believe any of the suggestions will ever be put into place. we either yeah we, we either do that or we have a tier any creeping in more and more and maybe instead of tip toeing, it'll start walking and then, you know, jumping then then leaping. so we're, we're either going to regulate it or it's going to uh, put a choke hold on us. and i'm talking about the whole world. and thank you so much joseph tale for joining us. mankind is curious and especially when it comes to

information about themselves. we look to find out more about our past. hopefully it will give us answers to questions. we speak about ourselves in the present and possibly help us in the future. where does my temper come from? why am i allergic to show fish? why do i have warranty or when everyone in my family has britain here, i think most looked the commercial to get a side's all for innocent reasons. but just like with everything else in the present day, once something is deemed extremely valuable, there was an open invitation for corruption. sadly, something as innocent as wanting to find out your genetic disposition or background can now be used for other purposes. without any disclosure to the individual. the lack of trust people have not only for the money hungry corporations, but the government, only age and the fear individuals have for the commercial dna industry. once we

realize how powerful our dna information can be. sadly, we are already behind and creating standards of regulations to protect privacy and individual rights in regards to their own dna. and just like with everything else deemed to be lucrative and hold power. i doubt the government. does it any hurry to correct? i'm sky now using this has been your 360 view of the news affecting you. thanks for watching the in your cells. and, you know, i mean, there are things that black and white in nature with the west and the approach to

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