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but this is the number to most recent diplomacy. ranking a number of long how to a political assumptions. you would pay the way for a room where great means not only might is right, but also responsibilities. this comes with power to discuss that amount joined by total, nice, smart in just form on bassinger to saudi arabia, investor, it's a great pleasure, great honor for me to talk to thank you very much for time. and you really bad for the religion. you know, whenever i interview prominent indian thinkers on china, i always feel myself a part of a love hate triangle because the china and india are so big and so close geographically that i guess it's impossible for them to be neutral towards each other. having said that, i wonder if china is resend brakes to diplomacy, including the best success and bringing the salad using the range and do they negotiate negotiating table? is that where they are respect and particularly where they are respective di,
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indian saunter parts or changes, whether your respect from the indian side, any in nature, do any diplomatic initiative that brought more peace and stay be in the middle east, is going to be ready to come to by or less, and i, she wrote this week, i'd be getting better coming or they would have to be met you engaging in bringing together. so it'll be an idea. and here their book of g is happiness change 4 or 5 to go. that has to be met a lot of the dupont ation exchange between them. they nearly came to arm's length of war uh, in the federal circumstances in going to be by d drive last committee, went to this initiative. and i will that they add that they've been chinese to for there's no guarantee and will be able to go forward. and we'd be able to go successful this various methods that'd be like every. now, one of the reasons why i think the,
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the news of the saudi arabian deal us twice as many as that we have come to take this risk for granted as almost the natural rather than man made. stayed off by international affairs. how much do you think your politics and by that i mean this uh uh, fluid mix of, uh there is interest um the various influences. how much has it influence the, the initial rift and how much has of influence its apparent resolution? now, i don't have the idea that there is any in there, redid realty in international relations, nor do i believe that, that have been any in every day really deep when they got to be a strange language means that will be the idea that they haven't been lo be the rims able to study them and making the most out of the in india actually i really, really just after be that be a lot of you have bridge is upside down the with the thing. yeah. and they weren't able to decide a very made an agreement,
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and it wasn't extremely walburga visit after that, there have been issues that you why did them not measure 70, convicted with anything that had happened between them. but at the same soft do your what? another believe yeah, i will call it, you know, we are out of the red, so be out of the bad bad and so it would be any of yeah, it'd be really good can see the next day about it. so not the name of it was so much bigger and it had such a large population and continued defense. gabriel, really deep sleep was gonna say what it was bored, so i'm sure so the fact that the mortgage that'd be go roll the vision video really could be americans of us or, or to be security gathered them as far as like even worse cancer. but the situation injuries they were brought, she was late and see the added. yeah. been, that'd be way did them and they was us and so 0 sub z,
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matthew. yeah. genes does situation find that basically what they're going to be and i teach him. yeah. that'd be a medic, this are more. could i be able to say good, the broadway the. i mean, does this leave the bed for the last few years? the style needs have been looking at. i did the pro my, the options, and they're having the beauty of ideas already probably wouldn't be going to be about read the bread people. they had 5 at all and dropped. we'd be good about that ended mascot. and i would see that the chinese in egypt, they in this bag, you know, so i will say that yes, this is a very positive develop when you do that kind of the nature of certain go by germs on both sides. certainly. but at the same time rebuild for like a native that china has not to blame that it is going to be a significant political and diplomatic, but it is in that age. and let me ask you specifically about china's role here. as
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i heard you say before, the china recognizes the limits and understands the problems can only be addressed and hopefully resolve by the countries themselves. but it's ready to provide what psychologist, call a safe container or what you called was i media media sion, this sort of congenial, authentic atmosphere of that where those difficult issues could be tackled or please discount. now, how important it is, i'm other, any other countries or any other platforms that can provide these safe space for genuine authentic negotiation of difficult issues. the background relating to china is that that has been the age of china in the east midland, where to go fast, or the last 4 p. s the 1st 20 years, but i was no peas. the northbrook claimed that the board making progress and it was concerned that the,
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for the rest the board seem to know about the be able to do anything to jeopardize the demo. before i brought the mission, largely open economic got picked up about the emergence of china and the legs. these are the exactly 10 years ago in 2013. but i didn't, she didn't being, and i was the one bed when brought any should be that later became the bed and all the ship 10 years later time that has announced that again, just also going to be a major only because clearly in word. yes, you touch how you doing this cannot be done. it was not familiar with webpage. had not been there for a long time. the loved northern region, the language and culture. but the last been yet. i have no get there. jamie scholars have been that makes rule familiar with bees with the god forbid each year and the child that variable is much will also be in the chinese up,
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which is quite different from that of the americans. the american abroad is to have a very strong, maybe the presence of the the gym and we'll have friend driven and be at the office to be interviewed. and will it be covered by the probate dreamforce? i will say the lady frankly that go with the law for be a since the end of the or more i would say through your, that'd be like this dates have left the region, the reset the, the, what the chinese offer is something quite different. the only way if i may be a trim order, the wayside media important evening, the week of solve your problems can be solar by country. it's only truly engagement with each other. well, the chinese goal is all for the offices. and then the email shows the garbage dialogue and the, the, the was the word are going to be in disney. got that look forward to being brokers
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. they are a good they do dialogue between people and standing by a legal yet they have disagreements is marked in by let the into the price as well . which means that the chinese have made themselves and again they are box or disagreement and therefore have bid themselves garrander involved with success clearly be try china is a reputation as a piece builder or as a mediator has received a significant boost. but there are also some provisions economic provisions in this deal. for example, amazing is trying to encourage saudi or rage and iran to conduct any violent stroll. trade deals uh, being denominated in you on, if that comes to pass, what do you think is going to be the significance of that? both for the big countries involved and perhaps even broader? that is at steve's at the amazing stage,
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any desktop we have already see the number of reports from baby a source is indicating ending 3 using action or using one or any of the barcode transactions every to comes through that in order to flush really big green because the lag just dancer, it'd be nice to have missed your bother under god, but then you will need that the sanctions, the board up all need to be here. you need that 3rd with drawer from the new get agree with the green sanction they bought. when you ball would understand the country, it does seem as a cross missed your or their daughter. if you have a st. jude, i would say, agree already printed and can take any more st. jude work, the medic who's been taking it and loved it always by nature as deep as globally. and it made it the bible study well. the community participate in the sciences and that has been that this i just did the device, no community lives,
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number oh god needed in the rest asia as well as the bar of each. yeah, i've serious, deep concern that this game will be lack of grossly unfair action can be big if i guarantee that already they all are against any trailer or against any other kind of the example. let's not move. they only sent them the room as well. and yet, and it gives us, yeah, okay, geez, of goods are you can already see that the chinese buy a lot of the land. the android india has updated shared values. i mean the sions on the easiest by the sanctions. i'm either i am checking the i'd like you to build up or leave a girl, make the visits to cover things that have been a fairly targeted by the american only or calling drawbridge by then just go out. i like you to look for other options. now i'm not sure i don't know if you would
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agree with that, but i think the americans had a tend to view these defines of the universal policy as an ideological move. they like to portray it as a sort of a battle existential battle between democracy and a talk receives. but from what you're saying, the countries are doing that, not out of any idea of logical or recent, per se, but there is simply pursuing that common sense. it go, if not, survival is to interest, do i understand you correctly that it's not so much an act of defying the americans as simply, you know, following your own path and doing what's, what's good for you without necessarily trying to steal something from others to read orders back to the american policy makers in washington, dc, their business or, or a baby, and lives a democratic gad, he has no conviction workshop ever. nobody in the world believes it, or the americans argue with us or argue against us. that is the legal,
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it doesn't matter why you will remember that in there by the americans have been the strongest a 4th of up outside south africa, or part of the baby and the gmc, imagine the baby guy in africa or pottery, dave, you ready? limited. yeah, so i am not impressed with this. i mean, it is, it is when people considered but they, during the description, we are looking for depth with and as you know, neither china nor glass, you know, india and already that already went by. you decide. you lived up on liability of a new or what we have been as you did think over the last 20 years, i'll show you that you're looking at what is the border that told me of the yeah. simply saying, you didn't order, then you're ready to book jeff. what we have saying it's a large number of countries every month on the words page. they have that all mean says and, but they're all good. they have the priorities, they work through z beam,
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the option of big data or more important is the book joe best basically making sure that comes with your team in the cloud based off the wall in your dream. hardly any, because we had supported the american agenda or the walker's the lives that are or a baby, any of them or them hardwick's. would that be great because of where to believe we, i mean by the people that were we have our right big are really busy. joe, is the guy who made the mistake as well as methods each member of the device. ok, well, i'm bassinger. we have the right and obligation right now to take a little break, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tune the, [000:00:00;00]
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the welcome back to all the parts, but telling me it's a smart induced foreman baset or to saudi arabia invested there before the break. we were talking about how various countries finally have the results and perhaps the necessity to pursue that own uh, national interest um, being the concept of multiple a world not as a necessarily ideal logic color defines to the united states, but simply out of uh, their own interest them, i heard you say before the, the us as answer to that changing world order has been the new cold water, which i have to say in ukraine, turned into a hawk. or do you think that will help the americans to hold onto their so called leadership? and i'm not asking for a moral judgment here. do you think that's
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a good strategic decision to pursue a confrontation risk of russia as a way of sort of holding onto the um, to the benefits that they have been sustaining? that is all western roller and wisdom leg work order. and the days of us in june would be our in fact word order is now that will be more do you will see you agree in the last that they've done it by the americans and the fuel west, the light that they have to do. but it's the dry totally being that court order. it's a must be didn't order that have no relation with the the word has gene. i want to be pointed disregard. but when building dead shore bbc, america would be less charlottesville. football in the word. ok. the best are
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already violent said damage that they get really did terrible. we are 40 looking at 20 years after the war. we also know that maybe the simply the database to be america did a kind of stop. we are for officially that hall for 1000000 people with a kid there during the american off to be a general careful countries email about his time and you that about that is the reason why that is what the thinking did a deal. there has to be that i use the other countries, they are not claiming to pop our data, but they are getting that service degree will be the ones and seeking are the ones that more does recognize these changes. the book is very book jeep deal. their own work order is boxy, and that'd be good. it'd be hard games. the pool that might be fuller. would it be hard? did it get or beans or video? yeah. look at the same diet, cooperation, or good. i vision,
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air bags and the indiana which i mean by full vision and know what is done in the deep level of them. but we need to environments that bought one of each of the leasing owners, fluid dynamics on the beach referral based on logic. i'm going to make one more point that they do that either verbal and that is just for the time being short invest, european countries have locked in for the american to change. the events of game that we're getting. what has happened is the market taking a lot of data from water, new green, germany agree me. when hundreds of videos of products, the lawyers have accepted this in any of the consensus point. one point me a can who imagine the job would be coming. subordinate would be a medical image in the in see if i worked in years by daniel imagine from remaining
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subordinate to the american intent that i have job. i really lost her bank because of its insecurity. restarted the china, but not at all. yeah. oh yeah, you're not really good join. it'd be less than a lions that gave china as well. so therefore, i'm suggesting that war 2, she has game going this or around the americans. i believe that every link is or full in a n t bridge. i did lots of games or can i ask you about that? because uh, this is something that's be is being discussed in russian circles a lot. namely, what you mentioned, whether we can imagine a re on germany or brands remain under the american uh, control or the american can for the next 5 to 7 years. but if we look at the national lead, a lead to those countries, most of them are western educated that, that level of expertise, or the level of knowledge, even of the basic european history, seems to be very,
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very limited. what makes you believe that something go happen and those are great european nations that will provide the kind of leads that will be more, it's not more. so there are different gums the, the americans, but then at least a little bit more independent than minding the old interest. you so difficult question for me. gland show, we don't or equal french i have as a long term, pro magic cabollero 37 years. i had been a board at the extent of 11 in western countries, particularly invest in europe and the united states in regard to the history that gotcha. and the dynamic stability could either be all countries in africa and asia and lived in america. even menu of their sole or dish birch being sold in the leg looking they are full of gold. measurement is big. this being seen that the
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same should require me over to brahman she as well as all of objective omen. 3 is that you must move in your, in the top is coming to, you want to know more just as you did in you more the walk out of their priority. be then into your fault, cuz you do your really chris, your waterfall priority. you have, you have released yourself particularly be a very give the be and then you will need people in the the other board or it will be american. believe that both american video, bad for border watch movie news. yeah. i'm out of it guy and might be of america that they just don't read your boards. so yes, we have a problem of knowledge. ok, did about something that you can get a goal where people are looking and you will have small leads where he won't be at their own invest. the primary care may be believe in warning level g m motorcycle
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centered more worried about their future. and therefore, yes, there is a certain lens and i'm 70 in the these men are all that i'm the live and active what we are leaving. so yes, even corvette they're leaving to a good hold on. should it be? i want to ask you a specific question. about uh, energy and nothing much energy for the rather, uh, saudi arabia and utilize your norm as expertise in that area. easily even more striking then, uh, china is recent success, be the saudis intention to resolve to go the own way. because for many years, the saudis positioned themselves as a staunch american l. and yep, if we actually look at the recent statements and the rest of most, for example, the commitment to the 8 pack it plus deals. that refusal uh to sell oil. 2 countries that introduce price caps on oil, including uh, you know, that's the measure that is forced by the, by the west. you know, it seems the di,
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foreign policy is far more independent and far more actually inward looking then at any of the countries that, um you know, surround the west at this point of time. absolutely. right. you know, a range, you know, part of the word game is a set price for wisdom. common data is because it was for me to be in that logic and he's got a surprise for us. we never hear. i have some watch soviet abs, you barble, would it be vehicles by? yes, they have talked them said about another. they had a smaller population of about maybe 1000000 plus 10, medium, florida, another. they did not have a very strong medium printer issue. they bought the american website and i've had no intention of using that. a huge dog did. she did change, did attempting to engage with daughter, daughter, it sounds busy day and she actually larry, did the district job went in with these?
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yeah. when the guys would be americans being seen of st. you in a deeper away desk. oh, why might have started the process or maybe the some of the rules they might be like? blaze. yeah. you're also one of the what your degree months i had heard because when the going from china you will need to be which i will need to lead time. i gave you the good thing cuz i remember the child jane of the be were blue is yeah, the the blood work, the visions baby bad. they're bad that would be doing the searching for the new kid . i agree live. we'd be and i'd be and i didn't buy with the region well that you gave them of all the of idea and concerns or maybe 3 of the new wardrobe, by monday bullshit via an agreement with outcomes sort of thing. any of them that's heard a lot of the media powder drum, but there was us bangle between the us and the same general and the idea of and that a best bet brought g a bag on the boys,
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but certainly be on the beach. and then the find those bro, well the know me this american big drawers from i was at this time from god forbid you me soul. and it was going to, they might be, does or hold the head back then, but i'm from the mouth or adult years ago. they came back the or a brand giving you. and i like backing up in the how do you have them? but i mean, go a lot as you get the region, the bed, the less than really bad and they're like that. now the new world order has come. we cannot depend on be americans added security provided all got it that we need to look at a square demo. jean particularly do provide. that's the the gym. it says i have come of age so they won't even believe so. right. very people. but i don't. washington, dc and both of you, but i pad isn't but there's no reason we have been watching this happen for such a long pain the same. so be 3. and the same problem though, but the message,
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or maybe there is a also a very inspiring message in a little that the 1st of all the fact that it's not only the americans, but any other country in the world that has a sense of its own manifest destiny and the right to proceed on its own terms and in the front of the relationship with the others. and the 2nd good news is that credibility is not something that comes as a birthright you, you actually have to earn if you actually have to treat others as you yourself, want to be treated. and i think that's the basis of all major philosophical and village of schools. menus be called manifest destiny. it reminds us on the green corridor or the one that is it might even be that isn't being gabby and the white man's burden. you don't get the mass murder the general say that because you know, in the name of stabilization, the white being out of the entire engineering community, the american indian community then be wiping the institutionalization of slavery.
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they don't mean nation window of logical or more oral pci in africa, the printer of patient during the visit and to be both to be live vision of ready for the any. that is not acceptable, but it's actually not just and we shall love it. remember, all of us have it is easier that it is a matter into the roses of list oppression menus, beautiful dancing, realizing we should be with say we life 5000 a year, be bought, any of them fall and see me live vision. the important issue of outbreak that we have, particularly as a year, but when we hear of these people are as it is that are both about his arms and m, like full warning light, the as be called this utilizing vision beside the yes. all dancing, realizing vision has meant mass murder. absolutely, and you know, i was interviewed former, focused on a prime minister and run filing. and he said that the, you know, one of the worst vested use of colonialism is the nation start to believe that colonial letter to themselves. and i think in
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a sense what we've been discussing today is that many of those countries finally ready to free themselves from all those narratives. and to recognize that there's something inherently good and valuable and charitable in the old history and own national path. and indeed, in the old manifest destiny because you know, all the nations in the world have something special, something unique to offer. even the international environment supports that. unfortunately, we have to end up here. i'm, as i said, great, the owner them briefly inspired by this conversation. thank you very much. thank you. it's a great pleasure for me and thank you for watching hope to hear again. next week on was
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