france for the migrants, but the u. k. has obviously decided that the best solution now is just to try moving the migraines out of view. the public british officials got caught out by the british press earlier this week. plodding to send margaret to cross the channel to ascension island. that is, if they can't just dump them in rwanda seriously. so basically one of the most isolated places in the world, the british overseas territory, that's part of the same side of islands to where the brits exiled french and her not totally on board that passed. so we couldn't fly to come back after losing the bottle of waterloo. i guess i figured that if not polio couldn't make it back to the mainland from there, then. well, maybe the migraines didn't make it back from there on a day. me maybe what's out there, how about just giving you on most of the call and seeing if he can floss them off into space? maybe the breads can happen, migrants try to call lies. mars. all they can do seems, is just keep pretending to have the situation totally under control. and speaking of old empires. well,

the word on library treatment has apparently already travel all the way to one time british colony talked to stand the people there are reacting white ends on each wall and all that. it's also merge by the way that you k was in talks with me jeff, to take some asylum seekers. good luck negotiating with that new post to management . and um, they're also looking for other countries to serve as a giant rug under which to sweep the result of their bad policy. so they don't actually have to revisit them and take an actual stab. there's a list of other countries here including don, not nigeria, and the media and morocco that were all under consideration by the british government up to now for potential places where they can put these migrants while they're waiting for some kind of decision as to what to do with them, it sounds like a bunch of ports of call on a cruise, so maybe they can just don't get a bunch of crew ships and have them go around to all these places. stop at some of these in the some of these countries and just going around and around maybe have

the immigration officials get on the ships and process the mirror. and then when they're done, they arrive back to port in the u. k. and they can get off. i don't know. hey, colleen already decide what you want. migration or know migration, or maybe just start promoting enabling wars. they create excuses for migration in the 1st place. i think you may have just given london a few more ideas there. inadvertently. archie, contribution original morrison, rachel leaving fox news some thought would make the networks once the star host tucker carlson um are relevant. but that housing turned out to be the case with the popular rock you're getting bigger, refused than ever before. online. next cross talk discusses whether mainstream media really is as powerful as it thinks it is. stick with the the,

[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle back in more influential than ever. that's with many of absorb since tucker carlson was fired from his prominent perch at fox news. unafraid, an unrepentant carlos and relentlessly punch is up at the establishment and speaks up for the week in powerless. the cross starting tucker carlson, and the conservative movement. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legally media analyst in milwaukee. we have jenner for

a brief reading and she is an attorney and in den, but we cross the title next, and e as an attorney and political strategist, or across our rules that affect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, okay, let's go to line on the 1st day in new york. okay. i want to, i don't want to go to all the background. what happened over the weekend with these 2 conservative for, but you can easily come to the conclusion. number one, donald trump, the inside of the party, but the heart and soul of the party belongs to the doctor carson. go ahead, my friend. oh, he's a virus, he's a parasite. he is the future. 2 things have happened. bobby kennedy junior and tucker agreed to be kennedy junior, represents the prototypical see radical quit the central left at dr. crossing. is that right? but guess what? they agree on. this is ridiculous war and ukraine kind of a re, a re positioning of what left and right was historically, by the way, whenever the democrats were in power, the bad guys are always local homegrown. you know, randy weaver and david correction mcvey. when the republicans were in charge, the bad guys will always terrorist, well,

today we have this amalgam. we have left here right now, basically clamoring for war. we have left her wide, basically looking for biomedical tyranny. we have left her right basically looking to throw away everything. so tucker is the statesman, bobby kennedy junior. and by the way, if there is a god which i'm not too sure about, but if there is a god, bobby kennedy will go to the 3rd party, destroy what's left of the democratic party handed over to trump. and then maybe just, maybe we can have another go and maybe resetting the great reset, but not in schwab, the in terms, but an actual real probable turn. well, re such as the war or the, the operative word here, jennifer. i mean, it seems to be a, it's interesting that line will brings up bobby junior because bobby junior is fighting the establishment and tucker carlson is a, is a thing we quick taking the establishment and this is what really it angers the establishment is that, you know, they, you don't have to fact check tucker because there's nothing really to check. and that's what really annoys them. jennifer,

your thoughts the yeah. what are the most? is the tucker especially even with the with the g o. p. candidates. he was asking questions, asking questions, but they don't want him to ask, asking questions. they don't want to answer. and, and that's what it is. you know, there's really nothing to fact check him on because he knows his stuff. he's lived in this world. he's the, the leads he's loved amongst them, and he knows what's going on, but it's also tapping into as miles that it's copying into the soul of the, of the page. remember that's happening in the soul of the americans, the american um, the american spirit, those questions that we're now ask you, which is why is our party moving against us? do they see they seem to hate us? and that's the main question. i think that they're trying to avoid is, especially for republicans, is, is, it seems like they are trying that they hate us, that they don't want to do that. and that's a question we never ask before we vote for somebody within our next to their name or the democrats case with, with bobby kennedy with it. ringback do you next to their name?

we assume that they're going to do what it is that we, that we voted for them to do. and now we're seeing possibly for the 1st time ever met many here in the last several decades. but they're not doing what we voted for them to do that. they don't care what we say. and it's a sort of like a we, the people movement wise, you know, perhaps for the 1st time ever, at least in several decade. yeah. it's interesting, tyler, it was if you look at the uh, the, the data be one, tucker was still on his program. is it more democrats watch tucker than anyone on the left? and there are a lot of conservatives that are actually interested in bobby kennedy. i'm not surprised by that. okay. i mean, i would come into work and i'd say, i don't know how much longer they're gonna allow tucker to talk like he talks because it is so we feel very different than anyone else. and you know, i've taught fox news getting burned to the ground for as uh, as far as i'm concerned right now because tucker was the only one that said anything of interest. and he spoke up for the power list. i want to stress that go

ahead. tyler, well i think people have good faith. one is see a viable party system that enables people to have a home and ideological home. and frankly, i think both parties are very poorly represented the actual people in, in the process. and i think what tucker represents is if he's the heart and soul of the republican party, donald trump, to the head of it, ron paul is the ideological godfather who came onto the scene decades ago and frankly challenged all the norms and was lambasted, was treated just a shadow, a shabbily, as you can imagine by the establishment and what we're seeing, but we solve donald trump treatment as well as a, frankly, and i was tucker's treatment is exactly what ron paul was treated to, which is uh that you know, the, the policies that they support, or that they advocate and against, frankly, a corrupt, arrogant and deceitful establishment is what people actually want and believing. now we're seeing that i've that potential ideological shakeup in the democratic

party. although i said before that i think the true battle is within for, for what's left of of any type of chance for a future, for american politics, that is not just a total fascist dictatorship, is within the battle within the republican party. i drain the wrong pause, no ideological strain, and frankly, the neo come on, you know, frankly, that these people were, i've always been authoritarians and the bush, the bush. he's, i guess you could call them the bush, family's elk, who has hijacked the republican party since frankly, probably the late 19th sixties. and, and what we've seen is this uh, the rebellion that's going on starting again with dr. paul, like deeply respect, inch and deserves is not given the credit. i think he deserves. although think everybody knows that he was the 1st to step out and really take on the war welfare warfare machine that had been the that we had been the treated to for, for decades. you that point. and tucker carlson speaks that speaks that ideology

speaks that, that frankly common sense and they can't have it. yeah, they can't have it and then truthful it just truth telling. i mean these people, they cannot stand to have their feet held was a fire. i think how he interviewed mike pence revealed so much on what i but i said, go ahead. i was gonna say i was going to turn it over to the light owens and, and talk about mike pens because mike pence, it showed how much he's disgusted with popular opinion. i mean, it's really amazing. he's, you know, in the evangelical and all of this, and in, tucker asked him about a religious liberty and ukraine, and he just scoffed at it. i mean, he's coughing it all of us line on that. what we're seeing right now is the death throes of a system that has been we thought, pretty much intact for a long time. several huckabee sanders, one time said that this isn't going to be a battle about the normal versus the crazy. there are people who have never really

been a part of the system for a long time of including black people of people, of color, regular, plain old gay people, not with any kind of 2 s l t. sounds like a mercedes of people who have just looked at regular, common sense of facts. and what we're seeing right now is a can common and destruction also of the entertainment systems that used to feed this. you guys as well, basically looking to dump cnn. you've got eiger who wants to dump a, b. c. you've got major strides right now. people don't understand. as bright board said, you know, politics is down percent as bright board shed. you know, politics is down stream from entertainment. this has changed drastically. what we're doing right now is going to be the medium of exchange of ideology. this is it, this is the marketplace of ideas, but also what happens. remember, going back to what, what tucker did with mike that tucker, didn't ask him anything tricky. my parents, you think somebody would have said that, mike, you're going to have this story to say basically when he base it, you said i've sold my soul to the global as a lead. that was the end of it. but keep in mind what's happening. that was the end

of it, but keep in mind what's happening right now very quickly. bobby kennedy is, poses an existential sides of the democratic party projection. got a new, some replaces biden watching when marissa is vp. cala harris is out and they are now changing everything. bobby just sped up the removal because i'm telling you for the 1st time is based on a couple of months ago. even though there's no way, there's a real chance that donald trump could be the 2nd chance that donald trump could be the 2nd grubber, cleveland, and actually be the 2nd non consecutive president. because right now he is number one in the republican field. and because of bobby tucker, and by the way to tucker is the bill buckley of his time. he may not be in a offers, but he is extremely critical. so we're seeing right now things that are changes. and one more thing, as we're talking about this jordan and comb or talking about hunter biden's checking account, who cares? this is how, how out of their mind they are. how out of the it was already carried it by that

time. so i get ready. 2024 is the waters, tyler brought up a really good point. i think it did the do. the salvage, the, the, the political culture is going to be resolved within the republican party and considering, you know, there are a lot of my expenses and nikki hailey's out there in jennifer. i mean, is it possible that you wouldn't be republicans? and actually in lock step, get behind donald trump. is it possible now we're considering what tucker carlson had to say, go ahead a. hi joe, and i'll tell you one thing i live in wisconsin in right now there is a, there's a chasm. there's a shift of and people are realizing it, but a lot of the people, you know, wisconsin is a great, it's a salt of the earth place. but the conservative here are completely conservative, at least at the porch front, that have supported the ideas of styles by dr on paul, by others, by an anti war anti establishment. that those conservatives here are hated by the

republican party. and i know that's happening throughout the area and, and i, i can tell you, i mean there's, there is one, at least at least one state representative as of the past 7 days. as of last week, who has literally stated, i don't care what the patriot say about me. this is a republican state representative. and, and so these people i, i hope that they could get in lock step. we'd hope that there could be unity, but you're already involved and acknowledgement that you care about your base that you care about. these thoughts of the earth, a good, the conservative, the people who are saying on the war. another for terry isn't a terry. and as i'm another this big farm, a dictatorship and nothing, all of this and those are okay questions i, i know of not looking to blind i, attorney to blind eye to elections where there are questions about what's going on . our elections is there for you. we look into this and, and these are people who have been demonized, who've been months well and even. yeah. but jennifer, you can, you can, you can question the 2016 election of course. but you can question the 2020

election business, the pockets and the we live with. alright, and we're going to go, we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on tucker carlson, and the future of the conservative movement say without taking the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just shifted reality distortions by tell us tired vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse really one say better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground? can

the the welcome ex, across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing tucker carlson in the future of the conservative movement.

the okay, it's go back to denver and tyler, you know, one of the things that i've talked about years on this program is how the professional managerial class has been able to capture the political, the political establishment, both parties here. how do we break out of that? because tucker gave us, you know, i think a path, you know, common sense and challenging power. it shouldn't be unique, but it is at this moment in time. go ahead, tyler? well, i mean you, it's a, it's a, that's this, the essential task. and then what, what you're seeing is it's happening now. and i think the age of multi media and you have the internet age of all the different outside outlets and resources and sources. um, are educating people and making them realize that they don't know what used to be a very managed controlled environment. but the problem is how do you translate that into electoral politics? and unfortunately, as i know from my battles and the delaware republican party,

years back, beginning with uh, frankly, finding out that these people do not care what the, what the base thinks, what most republican voters think that they're going to do, what they, what they feel as is right for whoever their masters, happy be within the whether financial or political stablish meant. and this is where we have to, we have to really the where the rubber meets the road and people need to realize that they are empowered. and i think unfortunately, you know, this is why you've seen election fraud become a real thing because they've realized that people have awakened and are no longer going to go in lock step or follow just whatever they're served up by the establishment. and in either party, i would hope to see the democrat party burton see the lock broken because that means this is truly an evil institution compared to i'd say, you know, the, the i used to kind of skoll side of but they say the stupid parties are bubbling part in the does that democrats are evil. but i think in, in the age of constant information where people can see the truth where

a they tucker carlson, even though he's been taken off the air is more influential perhaps than ever that, that there are avenues to, to uh, translate this into electrical victories because the people are gonna stand for these candidates will not be, i will not answer the questions that are, are the essential questions for the voters. they will not stand for stage managed politics. you know, where it's just, i mean it's, it's, it's essentially a fraud. i mean, the entire thing is that potemkin village really, you know, everything's okay. everything's great. well, it's not. that means it's the exact opposite of what people want and what they expect. and it's going to be a long process. i think because the, these people, these parasites will not give up power easily and it will not that, that a stranglehold they have on the american politics may require the gaps, unfortunately. well, not unfortunately, it's on people's cases, but it was a recard generational change where people like hillary clinton and others finally finally drop dead frankly. and i think you know that she deserves it more than

anybody i just developed. and all these deals with all these boomer era politicians who have destroyed american politics turned it into a farce. and a totally 3rd, as you know, it was certainly had his share of corruption. but it was do, sir, is now just thorough corruption. they'll have to dine past what i think, i think i would cite the lincoln in principle, abraham lincoln, you can. yeah. and he wants that you can full some of the people all the time, all the people, some of the time. but you can not full all the people all the time. that's problem as well. no. talking about pulling people line or, you know, let's look at these, these met issues here, cove at the national security stage here, and they and both parties. and they saw how much meant they gravitate around these meta narratives here. meaning you can't question them. ok, that is the problem is that when it comes to national security and health, i mean we all should have a right to question it. but know you're shut down for a line on the only thing would be in addition to that, you know,

originally there was something which i never thought i would see it originally. there was something which i never thought i would see, and i think it's relevant. it was a phone that came out the sound of freedom and it was about a child's advocate and human drive to getting an child protection. but it wasn't, jim could these all and not mel gibson, but it was saw to be email gibson. and it was about 10 ballard and these folks who basically worked from supporters and good christians, trying to fight get this child trafficking. i don't know about you, but i think most people would be against this when you saw the concert incidents when you saw the concerted, choreographed, and orchestrated movement and in, in, in reactions to this by this professional left who, whoever these media folks are. it's amazing. they saw that people who concern themselves about that were part of some kind of a blood conspiracy, sex or whatever. that's number one. number 2, let me tell you the problem that the republicans are making right now. the democrats stole the election and 2020 legally. they know exactly what to do. 20

legally. they know exactly what to do. nobody but nobody in the republican party is saying we're ready to go. we have boots in the ground, we have lawyers, we have law firms. we have observers. they are going to have this snatch again from them, so in as much as tucker and bobby kennedy are doing tremendous things. peter's, there are old fashion, plain old hardware rules about elections and how to steal out of preventing from being steal or stolen, that whatever the situation of the republican party is, is the ever degeneration of the republican party is, is not doing. but i remain hopeful. and again, remember, tucker crossing is the bill buckley. he may not be an office, but he is a spirit of a meal republic, and i use that word. and bobby kennedy is a godsend. remember if he goes 3rd party, because let's face it, this is a guy who basically had his family destroyed by the same organizations that are trying to destroy this country. now what a great payback that would be think that's it's a, as i would, i would just know real quick. it's funny because the tucker carlson son his name

buckley in. oh, nice. okay. the circle is closed. okay. jennifer, one of my biggest problem, my biggest problem with the g o. p. i'm not a republican i. i can't be in a party with lindsey graham. sorry. i just can't. okay. and there's a lot of other like my mid romney the rest of them. i really can't be in the same club as people like that jennifer, it really bothers me, is that so many republican establishment, terry, and say they go along with the liberal narrative on almost every single issue and the in a particularly and like mitch mcconnell, he's seems to be comfortable in the minority, you know, i mean, i guess he has time to count as money or something like that. right. i just don't see the bigger to want to establish an agenda for too many years. we're republicans have been followers, mountain leaders. okay. and of course they did everything to obstruct trump. go ahead jennifer, as well. and you brought up a good point? no, i don't want to be in a party with, you know,

lindsey graham or mitt romney or some of these others. but there's a reason people use the term line when you break that down, republican and name only, they're just democrats. we don't want to be in by an established establishment under press. all they care about is the unified with each other. there's the old adage and anyone that lived in washington dc knows this, you know, they, they sit and fight in front of the cameras and then they go and have a drink afterwards. and they, they kind of live about it. it's all a show and i think more and more people are seen that you're in a party and then that, you know, party that just the, that hate, that is pro war pro establishment. you know, a really fascinating thing is beginning to happen and that's at the, the grassroots level with the people. if you don't mention your political party, if you don't mention what political party vote with a general people that maybe support what bobby kennedy is saying, um or something else that you've got the new conservative, the tucker conservatives. if you will,

with the robert kennedy democrat with the kennedy democrats, if you get those people in a room despite how divided we've been, you know, reprogram to to, to think that we are those 2 people in the rooms, hucker, republicans, candidates. the democrats will agree on almost everything. yep. they will agree that the government needs to be held in check. they will agree that were supposed to be a few questions. they'll agree that the vaccine loc, as were wrong, we all want to ask questions about this perpetual war military industrial complex. and the want to do that. and so that's what i think the establishment is the most afraid of it. the fact that people are finally asking questions they're pressing back, but there is push that, you know, it was george orwell that said it's, i am of universal to see truth as a revolutionary act. and that's how they treat people as revolution. not as revolutionaries as, as rebels isn't direction as others who are trying to just ask questions to get to the true, to say, i'm not buying what you're selling me. yeah. and it's hard because you can talk

about more years. it's hard for lawyers to, there's pushed back against against good constitutional lawyers in this country. well, you know, tyler, i been on the jimmy door and show twice. i mean, in because of it's a, it was a pod cast who lasted a long time. i, everybody knows i'm a conservative and a pretty rigid one on the, on most issues here. but i can talk to jimmy door for the longest time and we kept looking for a way to disagree with each other, but we really didn't. okay, and we've max blumenthal also. i mean it's a, well, this is all engineer to divide us whether there is a division. go ahead, tyler? well, you know, it's, it's so interesting. you mentioned that because of jimmy jimmy has been you know, he's the, he'll tell you just the easiest, the comedian who realized what was going on and had to speak out as an american. and for years he, uh, essentially there was this notion that you had to sort of disavow tucker carlson as you agree with him in the sense that, that well, you know, tucker i, you know, in the same thing with alex jones. frankly,

it's everybody had to always give these sort of preliminaries if they were not, you know, have it supporters that, oh well, you know, alex jones may be crazy but, and they, they started doing that so much that i noticed the jimmy no longer says well tucker carlson as well, you know, off the ranch or whatever i've done. i've noticed the transition i noticed was right, is it exactly the way you did? i remember, yeah. it's finally finally coming to reconciling with the fact that these, these labels and these, uh, these i audiological or political sort of compartmentalization of people were for false. i mean, we agree on more than we disagree about. and then we'd certainly agree on the fundamentals of what this country should be, and this absolutely frightening the hell out of the establishment that is, as a totally ruled on the basis of these artificial, this artificial divide, i mean, in any sort of rebels or, or people who would challenge that to me? i worked for newt gingrich when he was minority whip and the an inch is speakership . the only lasted maybe 2 or 3 years, a speaker,

roughly from the time of the revolution. so they asked him, put, put in dennis hastert of all people, you know, it was might as well been bob, michael, who was the, the previous uh, the loyal opposition, leonardi leader who as you said, you know, did, they did nothing. so you know that the system as an abided people like this. but what we have now is an entire sort of parallel infrastructure. this rising up, it's far more vital farmer. truthful and touches people or reaches people far better this uh, this media fascist media propaganda combine that we've had in the corporate uh, you know, corporate media for years and that's going to make the huge difference. yeah. be kennedy's all over, all this. i mean, these are easy. well, i mean, you know, but bobby kennedy and tucker, carlson gave me door. i would even say they have a lot they, they've given us permission not to hate our neighbor and that is refreshing. okay. you weren't, we don't have to hate. okay, that is an inspiring message coming from the gentleman, folks we've run out of time. i want to thank my guess in new york,

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