has progressive bills with cross progressive frameworks that are going to enable us with watching the industry for women and children and people with disabilities. that's ministry is an important instrument for mainstreaming and ordinating the work of government, particularly to make sure that all the departments of the country deal with issues of also what have what you call the commission put into equality, which is a commission independence established in line with all the constitution installed africa and the commission for june. the apologies, the very progressive agenda was she knew that our system in april and book his work and programs that speak to assist and advanced the agenda of women. well, let's hope all those things happen. honestly, louisa, i must say to deputy secretary of the after national company as well. i thank you so much for joining me today. i once again a very happy, luminous,

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the the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered. i'm peter live out, back in more influential than ever. that's wouldn't. many have observed since tucker carlson was fired from his prominent perch at fox news. unafraid, an unrepentant carlton relentlessly punches up at the establishment and speaks up for the week in powerless. the cross talking, tucker carlson, and the conservative movement. i'm joined by my guess, lionel and new york is a legal and media analyst in milwaukee. we have jennifer bri read and she is an

attorney. and in denver we cross the tyler next and he is an attorney and political strategist or across soc rules. and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate, okay, let's go to line on the 1st day in new york. okay. why don't, i don't want to go to all the background. what happened over the weekend with these 2 conservative for but you can easily come to the conclusion. number one, donald trump, the inside of the party, but the heart and soul of the party belongs to the general carlson. go ahead, my friend. oh, he's a virus, he's a parasite. he is the future. 2 things have happened. bobby kennedy junior and tucker agreed to be kennedy junior, represents the prototypical see radical. quit the central left at dr. crossing. is that right? but guess what? they agree on. this is ridiculous war and ukraine kind of a re, e, a repositioning of what left to right was historically by the way, whenever the democrats were in power, the bad guys were always the local home grown. you know, randy weaver and david correction mcvey,

where the republicans were in charge. the bad guys will always terrorist. well today we have this a much all of them. we have left to right now basically clamoring for war. we have left her wide, basically looking for biomedical tyranny. we have left her right basically looking to throw away everything. so tucker is the statesman, bobby kennedy junior. and by the way, if there is a god which i'm not too sure about. but if there is a god, bobby kennedy will go to the 3rd party, destroy what's left as the democratic party handed over to trump. and then maybe just, maybe we can have another go and maybe resetting the great reset, but not in schwab, be in terms, but an actual real palpable term. well, reset just the or the, the operative word here, jennifer. i mean, it seems to be a, it's interesting that lionel brings up bobby junior because bobby junior is fighting the establishment. and tucker carlson is a escaping week, reached good, taking the establishment. and this is what really, it angers the establishment is that, you know, they, you don't have to fact check tucker because there's nothing really to check. and

that's what really annoys them. jennifer, your thoughts? the yeah. what are the most, is the tucker, especially even with the, with the g o p. candidates, he was asking questions, asking questions, but they don't want him to ask, asking questions. they don't want to answer and, and that's what it is. you know, there's really nothing to fact check him on because he knows his stuff. he's lived in this world, he's still the lease. he's loved amongst them, and he knows what's going on. but it's also tapping into as miles that it's tapping into the soul of the, of the page. remember, that happened in the soul of the americans, the american, on the american spirit, those questions that we're now ask you, which is, why is our party moving against us? do they see they seem to hate us? and that's the main question i think that they're trying to avoid is, especially for republicans, is, is, it seems like they are trying that they hate us, that they don't want to do that. and that's a question. we never ask before we vote for somebody with an our next to their name on the democrats case with, with bobby kennedy with it, with

a do you next to their name? we assume that they're going to do what it is that we, that we voted for them to do. and now we're seeing possibly for the 1st time ever met many here in the last several decades. but they're not doing what we voted for them to do that. they don't care what we say, and it's a sort of like a we, the people movement wise, you know, perhaps for the 1st time ever, at least in several decade. yeah. it's interesting, tyler, it was if you look at the uh, the, the data be one, tucker was still on his program. is it more democrats watch tucker than anyone on the left? and there are a lot of conservatives that are actually interested in bobby kennedy. i'm not surprised by that. okay. i mean, i would come into work and i'd say, i don't know how much longer they're gonna allow tucker to talk like he talks because it is. so we feel very different than anyone else. and you know, put fox news can burn to the ground for as uh, as far as i'm concerned right now because tucker was the only one that said anything of interest. and he spoke up for the power list. i want to stress that go

ahead, tyler? well, i think people have good faith, one is see a viable party system that enables people to have a home and ideological home. and frankly, i think both parties are very poorly represented the actual people in, in the process. and i think what tucker represents is if he is the heart and soul of the republican party, donald trump, to the head of it, ron paul is the ideological godfather. we came onto the scene decades ago and frankly challenged all the norms and was lambasted, was treated just a shadow of shabbily, as you can imagine by the establishment and what we're seeing. but we solve donald trump treatment as well as a, frankly, and i was tucker's treatment is exactly what ron paul was treated to, which is that, you know, the, the policies that they support or that they advocate and against, frankly, a corrupt, arrogant and deceitful establishment is what people actually want and believing now we're seeing that i've that potential ideological shakeup in the democratic party.

although i've said before that i think the true battle is within for, for what's left of any type of chance for a future, for american politics. that is not just a total fascist dictatorship, is within the battle within the republican party drain the wrong pause, you know, a id, logical strain. and frankly, the neo come on, you know, frankly that these people were, i've always been authoritarians and the bush, the bush, he's, i guess you could call them the bush, family's elk, who has hijacked the republican party since frankly, probably the late 19th sixties. and, and what we've seen is this uh, the rebellion that's going on starting again with dr. paul like deeply respect, inch and deserves is not given the credit. i think he deserves. although i think everybody knows that he was the 1st to step out and really take on the war welfare warfare machine that had been uh, that we had been treated to for, for decades at that point. and tucker carlson speaks that speaks that audiology

speaks that that frank common sense and then they can have it. yeah, they can have it. and then truthfully it just truth telling. i mean these people, they cannot stand to have their feet held as a fire. i think how he interviewed mike pence revealed so much on what i but i said, go ahead. i was gonna say i was going to turn it over to the light owens and, and talk about mike pens because mike, pensive showed how much he's disgusted with popular opinion. i mean, it's really amazing. he's, you know, in evangelical and all of this. and in tucker asked him about a religious liberty and ukraine, and he just scoffed at it. i mean, he's coughing it all of us line on that. what we're seeing right now is the death throes of a system that has been we thought, pretty much intact for a long time. several huckabee sanders, one time said that this is going to be a battle about the normal versus the crazy. there are people who have never really

been a part of the system for a long time of including black people of people, of color, regular, plain old gay people, not with any kind of 2 s l t. sounds like a mercedes living. people who have just looked at regular, common sense of facts. and what we're seeing right now is a can common and destruction also of the entertainment systems that used to feed this. you guys as well, basically looking to dump cnn. you've got a girl who wants to dump a, b, c. you've got major strides right now. people don't understand. as bright board said, you know, politics is down to 10 as bright board shed. you know, politics is down stream from entertainment. this is change drastically. what we're doing right now is going to be the medium of exchange of ideology. this is that this is the marketplace of ideas, but also what happens. remember going back to what, what tucker did with mike bench tucker, didn't ask him anything tricky. my parents, you think somebody would have said that, mike, you're going to have this story to say basically when he base it, you said i've sold my soul to the global as

a lead. that was the end of it. but keep in mind what's happening. that was the end of it, but keep in mind, what's happening right now very quickly, bobby kennedy is, poses an existential sides of the democratic party prediction. gavin newsom replaces bite and rushing when marissa is v p comma harris is out and they are now changing everything. bobby just sped up the removal because i'm telling you for the 1st time is based on a couple of months ago, even though there's no way there's a real chance that donald trump could be the 2nd chance that donald trump could be the 2nd grover, cleveland, and actually be the 2nd non consecutive president, because right now he is number one and the republican field. and because of bobby tucker, and by the way to tucker is the bill buckley of his time. he may not be in a offers, but he is extremely critical. so we're seeing right now things that are changes and one more thing as we're talking about does jordan and comb. we're talking about hunter biden's checking account. who cares? this is how, how out of their mind they are,

how out of the it was already carried by that time. so i'm not ready. 2024 is the waters, tyler brought up a really good point. i think it didn't, the, to the salvage, the, the, the political culture is going to be resolved within the republican party and considering, you know, there are a lot of my expenses, and nikki haley is out there in jennifer. i mean, is it possible that you wouldn't be republicans and actually in lock step to get behind donald trump? is it possible now with considering what tucker carlson had to say, go ahead a. hi joe, and i'll tell you one thing i live in wisconsin in right now, there is a, there's a chasm. there's a shift of and people are realizing it, but a lot of the people, you know, wisconsin is a great, it's a salt of the earth place. but the conservative here are completely in a conservative, at least the porch front that have supported the idea of the styles by dr. on paul, by others, by an anti war anti establishment. that those conservatives here are hated by the

republican party. and i know that's happening throughout the area and, and i, i can tell you, i mean there's, there is one, at least at least one state representative as of the past 7 days. as of last week, who has literally stated, i don't care what the patriot say about me. this is a republican state representative. and, and so these people i, i hope that they could get in lock step. we'd hope that there could be unity, but you're already involved and acknowledgement that you care about your base that you care about. these thoughts of the earth, a good, the conservatives of people who are staying on the war. another for terry isn't up, terry. and as i'm another this big farm, a dictatorship, enough of all of this. and those are okay questions i, i know of not looking to blind i, attorney to blind eye to elections where there are questions about what's going on . our elections is there for you. we look into this and, and these are people who have been demonized, who've been months well emptied it. yeah. but jennifer, you can, you can, you can question the 2016 election of course. but you can question the 2020

election business, the pockets and the we live with. alright, and we're going to go, we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on tucker carlson and the future of the conservative movement say without taking the the a day. and this is new and never done with trigger for general. ok, that means national governments kind of into the economy much maybe into that and then it goes. but you do take the job. i don't know because at the job on the 22, the 11th and the i just wanted to come back and get it to us on the move to stand

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welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter le belcher manager. we're discussing tucker carlson in the future of the conservative movement . the . okay, it's go back to denver and tyler, you know, one of the things that i've talked about years on this program is how the professional managerial class has been able to capture the political, the political establishment, both parties here. how do we break out of that? because tucker gave us, you know, i think a pass, you know, common sense and challenging power. it shouldn't be unique, but it is at this moment in time. go ahead, tyler? well, i mean, you, it's, it's a, that's this, the essential task. and then what, what you're seeing is it's happening now. and i think the age of multi media and give the internet age of all the different outside outlets and resources and sources. um, are educating people and making them realize that they don't know what used to be

a very managed, controlled environment. but the problem is how do you translate that into electrical politics? and unfortunately, as i know from my battles and the delaware republican party, years back, beginning with uh, frankly, finding out that these people do not care what the, what the base thinks, what most republican voters think that they're going to do, what they, what they feel is is right for whoever their masters, happy be within the whether financial or political establishment. and this is where we have to, we have to really go where the rubber meets the road and people need to realize that they are empowered. and i think unfortunately, you know, this is why you've seen election fraud become a real thing because they've realized that people have awakened and are no longer going to go in lock step or follow just whatever they're served up by the establishment. and in either party, i would hope to see the democrat party burton see the lock broken because that means this is truly an evil institution compared to i'd say, you know, the,

the i used to kind of skoll side of but they say the stupid bodies are bubbles in part in the do that democrats are evil. but i think in, in the age of constant information where people can see the truth where a they tucker carlson, even though he's been taken off the air is more influential perhaps than ever that, that there are avenues to, to uh, translate this into electrical victories because the people are gonna stand for these candidates will not be, i will not answer the questions that are, are the essential questions for the voters. they will not stand for stage managed politics. you know, where it's just, i mean it's, it's, it's essentially a fraud. i mean, the entire thing is that potemkin village really, you know, everything's okay. everything's great. well, it's not. i mean, 6, the exact opposite of what people want and what they expect. and it's going to be a long process. i think because the, these people, these parasites will not give up power easily and it will not that, that a stranglehold they have on the american politics may require the gaps, unfortunately. well, not unfortunately, it's on people's cases, but it was

a recard generational change where people like hillary clinton and others finally finally drop dead frankly. and i think, you know, she deserves it more than anybody i just developed. and all these deals with all these boomer era politicians who have destroyed american politics turned it into a farce. and a totally 3rd, as you know, it was certainly had his share of corruption. but it was do, sir, is now just thorough corruption. they'll have to dine pass, so i think i think i would cite the lincoln and principal, abraham lincoln. you can. yeah. and he wants that you can full some of the people all the time, all the people, some of the time. but you could not full all the people all the time. that's the problem is what well are talking about pulling people line on, you know, let's look at these, these met issues here, cove at the national security stage. here they and both parties and the sabbath spent, they gravitate around these med narratives here. meaning you can't question them. ok, that is, the problem is that when it comes to national security and health, i mean we all should have

a right to question it. but know you're shut down for it vinyl. a couple of things to bring in addition to that, um, you know, recently there was something which i never thought i would see it originally. there was something which i never thought i would see. and i think it's relevant, there was a phone that came out the sound of freedom and it was about a child to advocate and human driver getting in short child protection. and it wasn't jim, could these all and not mel gibson, but it was thought to be an e mail, gibson, and it was about 10 ballard. and these folks who basically were trump supporters and good christians, trying to fight get this child trafficking. i don't know about you, but i think most people would be against this when you saw the concert incidents, when you saw the concerted, choreographed an orchestrated movement in, in, in, in reaction to this by this professional left who, whoever these media folks are. it's amazing. they saw that people who concern themselves about that were part of some kind of a blood conspiracy sector, whatever. that's number one. number 2,

let me tell you the problem that the republicans are making right now. the democrats stole the election in 2020 legally. they know exactly what to do. 20 legally. they know exactly what to do. nobody but nobody in the republican party is saying we're ready to go. we have boots in the ground, we have a lawyer and we have law firms. we have observers. they are going to have this snatch again from them, so in as much as tucker and bobby kennedy are doing from mendez things. peters, there are old fashion, plain old hardware rules about elections and how to steal out of preventing from being steal or stolen, that whatever the situation of the republican party is, is forever degeneration of the republican party is, is not doing, but i remain hopeful. and again, remember talking crossing is the build buckley. he may not be in office, but he is a spirit of a meal republic, and i use that word. and bobby kennedy is a godsend. remember if he goes 3rd party, because let's face it, this is a guy who basically had his family destroyed by the same organizations that are

trying to destroy this country. now what a great payback that would be think it's, it's a the i would just know real quick. it's funny because the tucker carlson son his name buckley in. oh, nice. okay. the circle is closed. okay. jennifer, you know, more than one of my biggest problem. my biggest problem with the g o. p. i'm not, i'm a republican. i. i can't be in a party with lindsey graham. sorry, i just can't. okay. and then there's a lot of other white men mitten romney the rest of them. i. i really can't be in the same club as people like that. jennifer, it really bothers me. is that so many republican establishment, terry? and say they go along with the liberal narrative on almost every single issue and the in a particularly and like mitch mcconnell, he seems to be comfortable in the minority. you know, i mean, i guess he has time to count as money or something like that. right? i just don't see the vigor to want to establish an agenda for too many years. we republicans have been followers,

mountain leaders. okay. and of course we did everything to obstruct trump. go ahead, jennifer. a plane. you brought up a good point. no, i don't want to be in a party with, you know, lindsey graham or mitt romney or some of these others. but there's a reason people use the term rhino and when you break that down, republican, a name only, they're just democrats. we don't want to be in by an established establishment. democrats. all they care about is the unified with each other. there's the old adage and anyone that lived in washington dc knows this, you know, they, they sit and fight in front of the cameras and then they go and have a drink afterwards. and they, they kind of laugh about it. it's all a show and i think more and more people are seen that you're in a party and then that, you know, party that just the that hates and that is pro war pro establishment. you know, a really fascinating thing is beginning to happen and that's at the, the, the grassroots level with the people. if you don't mention your political party, if you don't mention what political party vote with

a general people that may be support, what bobby kennedy is saying, um, or something else that you've got the new conservative, the tucker conservatives, if you will, with the robert kennedy democrat, with the kennedy democrats, if you get those people in a room, despite how to invite it, we've been, you know, reprogram to, to think that we are those 2 people in the room tucker, republicans, candidates. the democrats will agree on almost everything. yep. they will agree that the government needs to be held in check. they will agree that were supposed to be a few questions. they'll agree that the vaccine loc, as were wrong. we all want to ask questions about this perpetual war military industrial complex. and the want to do that, and so that's what i think the establishment is the most afraid of the fact that people are finally asking questions they're pressing back. but there is push that, you know, it was george orwell that said in a time of universal to see truth as a revolutionary act. and that's how they treat people as revolution. not as revolutionaries is,

as rebels as instruction as others who are trying to just ask questions to get to the true, to say, i'm not buying what you're selling me. and it's hard because you've been talked about more years where it's hard for lawyers to, there's pushed back against against good constitutional lawyers in this country. well, you know, tyler, i been on the jimmy door and show twice. i mean in, because of it's a, it was a pod cast, it lasted a long time. i, everybody knows i'm a conservative and a pretty rigid one on the, on most issues here. but i can talk to jimmy door for the longest time, and we kept looking for a way to disagree with each other, but we really didn't. okay, and we've max blumenthal also. i mean, it's a, well, this is all engineer to divide us whether there is a division. go ahead, tyler? well, you know, it's, it's so interesting. you mentioned that because of jimmy jimmy has been you know, he's the, he'll tell you just the easiest, the comedian who realized what was going on and had to speak out as an american. and for years he, uh,

essentially there was this notion that you had to sort of disavow tucker carlson as you agree with him in the sense that, that well, you know, tucker i, you know, in the same thing with alex jones. frankly, just everybody had to always give these sort of preliminaries if they were not, you know, have it supporters that, oh well, you know, alex jones may be crazy but, and they, they started doing that so much that i noticed the jimmy no longer says well tucker carlson as well, you know, off the ranch or whatever i'm doing. i've noticed the transition i noticed was right, is it exactly the way you did? i remember? yeah. it's finally finally coming to reconciling with the fact that these, these labels and these, these are ideological or political sort of compartmentalization of people were for false. i mean, we agree on more than we disagree about. and then we certainly agree on the fundamentals of what this country should be, and this absolutely frightening the hell out of the establishment that is, as a totally ruled on the basis of these artificial, this artificial divide, i mean,

in any sort of rebels or, or people who would challenge that to me? i worked for newt gingrich when he was minority whip and, and into speakership. he only lasted maybe 2 or 3 years, a speaker, roughly from the time of the revolution. so they asked him, put, put in dennis hastert of all people, you know, it was might as well been bob michael, who was the the previous uh, the loyal opposition. minority leader who as you said, you know, did, they did nothing. so you know the system as an abided people like this. but what we have now is an entire sort of parallel infrastructure. this rising up, it's far more vital farmer, truthful and touches people, or reaches people far better. this, this media fascist media propaganda combine that. we've had in the corporate uh, you know, corporate media for years and that's gonna make the huge difference. yeah. be kennedy's all over all this. i mean, these are easy. well, if you need to. but bobby kennedy and tucker, carlson jimmy door. i would even say they have a lot they, they've given us permission not to hate our neighbor and that is refreshing. okay.

you weren't, we don't have to hate. okay. that is an inspiring message coming from the gentleman . folks, we've run out of time, i want to thank my guess in new york, denver, and in milwaukee. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at archie. see you next time. remember prospect rules the we have this to move on. tenderness in the united states really exported it now to the world because of multi national corporations. and we've been damaged to believe that babies needs be nurtured in care for and love. and, and so you've got a whole bunch of traumatized people all over the world. post traumatic stress disorder that don't know how to keel.

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