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[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered on peter lavelle back in more influential than ever. that's wouldn't. many you've observed since tucker carlson was fired from his prominent perch at fox news. unafraid, an unrepentant carlson relentlessly punches up at the establishment and speaks up for the week in powerless. the cross starting tucker carlson, and the conservative movement. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in milwaukee. we have jennifer breed read, and she is an attorney. and in denver we cross the title next. and e as an attorney and political strategist across lock rules in effect, that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate, okay, let's go to line on the 1st day in new york. okay. i want to, i don't want to go to all the background, what happened over the weekend with these 2 conservative for,
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but you can easily come to the conclusion. number one, donald trump, the inside of the party. but the heart and soul of the party belongs to the doctor carson. go ahead, my friend. oh, he's a virus. he's a parasite. he is the future. 2 things have happened. bobby kennedy junior and tucker agreed to be. kennedy junior, represents the prototypical see radical quit the central left at dr. crossing. is that right? but guess what? they agree on. this is ridiculous war and ukraine kind of a re, a re positioning of what left and right was historically, by the way, whenever the democrats were in power, the bad guys were always local homegrown, you know, randy weaver and david correction mcvey. when the republicans were in charge, the bad guys will always terrorist, well today we have this amount, all of them. we have left her right now basically clamoring for war. we have left her wide, basically looking for biomedical tyranny. we have left her wide basically looking to throw away everything. so tucker is the statesman, bobby kennedy junior. and by the way, if there is
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a god which i'm not too sure about, but if there is a god, bobby kennedy will go to the 3rd party, destroy what's left of the democratic party handed over to trump. and then maybe just, maybe we can have another go at maybe resetting the great reset, but not in schwab, the in terms, but an actual real probable turn. well, res, such as the war or the the operative word here, jennifer? i mean, it seems to me it's interesting that lionel brings up bobby junior because bobby junior is fighting the establishment and tucker carlson is a escaping week rich, protecting me establishment. and this is what really, it angers the establishment is that, you know, they, you don't have to fact check tucker because there's nothing really to check. and that's what really annoys them. jennifer, your thoughts? the? yeah. what is the most, is the tucker, especially even with the, with the g o p. candidates, he was asking questions, asking questions, but they don't want him to ask, asking questions. they don't want to answer and, and that's what it is. you know, there's really nothing to fact check him on because he knows his stuff. he's lived
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in this world. he's the, the leads he's loved amongst them. and he knows what's going on. but it's also tapping into as miles that it's tapping into the soul of the, of the page. remember the typing in the soul of the americans, the american um, the american spirit, those questions that we're now ask you, which is why is our party moving against us? do they see they seem to hate us? and that's the main question. i think that they're trying to avoid is, especially for republicans, is, is, it seems like they are trying that they hate us, that they don't want to do that. and that's a question we never ask before. we vote for somebody with an our next to their name on the democrats case with, with bobby kennedy with it, with a do you next to their name? we assume that they're going to do what it is that we, that we voted for them to do. and now we're seeing possibly for the 1st time ever met many here in the last several decades. but they're not doing what we voted for them to do that. they don't care what we say. and it's a sort of like a we,
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the people movement wise. you know, perhaps for the 1st time ever, at least in several decade. yeah. it's interesting, tyler, it was if you look at the uh, the, the data be one, tucker was still on his program. is it more democrats watch tucker than anyone on the left? and there are a lot of conservatives that are actually interested in bobby kennedy. i'm not surprised by that. okay. i mean, i would come into work and i'd say, i don't know how much longer they gonna allow tucker to talk like he talks because it is. so we feel very different than anyone else. and you know, put fox news getting burned to the ground for as uh, as far as i'm concerned right now because tucker was the only one that said anything of interest. and he spoke up for the power list. i want to stress that go ahead. tyler? well, i think people have good faith, one is see a viable party system that enables people to have a home and ideological home. and frankly, i think both parties are very poorly represented the actual people in,
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in the process. and i think what tucker represents is if he's the heart and soul of the republican party, donald trump, to the head of it, ron paul is the ideological godfather who came onto the scene decades ago and frankly challenged all the norms and was lambasted, was treated just a shadow of shabbily as you can imagine by the establishment and what we're seeing, but we solve donald trump treatment as well as a frankly, and i was tucker's treatment is exactly what ron paul was treated to, which is uh that you know, the, the policies that they support, or that they advocate and against, frankly, a corrupt, arrogant and deceitful establishment is what people actually want and believing. now we're seeing that i've that potential ideological shakeup in the democratic party. although i've said before that i think the true battle is within for, for what's left of any type of chance for a future, for american politics, that is not just a total fascist dictatorship,
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is within the battle within the republican party. drain the wrong pause, you know, a ideological strain and frankly, the neo come on, you know, frankly that these people were, i've always been authoritarians and the bush, the bush, he's, i guess you could call them the bush, family's elk, who was hijacked the republican party since frankly, probably the late 19th sixties and, and what we've seen is this uh, the rebellion that's going on starting again with dr. paul. well, i deeply respect, inch and deserves isn't not given the credit. i think he deserves all that. i think everybody knows that he was the 1st to step out and really take on the war welfare warfare machine that had been the that we had been the treated to for, for decades at that point. and tucker carlson speaks that speaks that ideology speaks that that frank common sense and then they can have it. yeah, they can have it. and then truthfully it just truth telling. i mean these people, they cannot stand to have their feet held as a fire. i think how he interviewed mike pence revealed so much on what i but i said,
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go ahead. i was gonna say i was going to turn it over to the light owens and, and talk about mike pens because mike, pensive showed how much he's disgusted with popular opinion. i mean, it's really amazing. he's, you know, in evangelical and all of this. and in tucker asked him about a religious liberty and ukraine, and he just scoffed at it. i mean, he's coughing it all of us line on that. peter, what we're seeing right now is the death throes of a system that has been we thought, pretty much intact for a long time. several huckabee sanders, one time said that this is going to be a battle about the normal versus the crazy. there are people who have never really been a part of the system for a long time of including black people of people, of color, regular, plain old gay people, not with any kind of 2 s l t. sounds like a mercedes of people who have just looked at regular, common sense of facts. and what we're seeing right now is a can comment and destruction also of the entertainment systems that used to feed
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this. you guys as well, basically looking to dump cnn. you've got eiger who wants to dump a, b, c. you've got major strides right now. people don't understand. as bright board said, you know, politics is down to 10 as bright board shed. you know, politics is down stream from entertainment. this is change drastically. what we're doing right now is going to be the medium of exchange of ideology. this is that this is the marketplace of ideas, but also what happens. remember going back to what, what tucker did with mike bench tucker, didn't ask him anything tricky. mike pens, you think somebody would have said to mike, you're going to have this story to say basically when he basically said, he said, i have sold my soul to the global as a lead. that was the end of it. but keep in mind what's happening, that was the end of it. but keep in mind what's happening right now very quickly. bobby kennedy is, poses an existential to us at the democratic party prediction got a new, some replaces bite and watching when marissa is vp. cala harris is out and they are
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now changing everything. bobby just sped up the removal because i'm telling you for the 1st time is based on a couple of months ago, even though there's no way there's a real chance that donald trump could be the 2nd chance that donald trump could be the 2nd grover, cleveland, and actually be the 2nd non consecutive president, because right now he is number one and the republican field. and because of bobby tucker, and by the way to tucker is the bill buckley of his time. he may not be in a offers, but he is extremely critical. so we're seeing right now things that are changes and one more thing as we're talking about does jordan and comb. we're talking about hunter biden's checking account. who cares? this is how, how out of their mind they are, how out of the it was already carried by that time. so i get ready. 2024 is the waters, tyler brought up a really good point. i think it did the, to the salvage, the, the, the political culture is going to be resolved within the republican party and
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considering, you know, there are a lot of my expenses, and nikki haley is out there in jennifer. i mean, is it possible that you wouldn't be republicans and actually in lockstep get behind donald trump? is it possible now with considering what tucker carlson had to say, go ahead a. hi joe, and i'll tell you one thing i live in wisconsin in right now. there is a, there's a chasm, there's a shift of and people are realizing there, but a lot of the people, you know, wisconsin is a great, it's a salt of the earth place. but the conservative here are completely in a conservative, at least the porch front that have supported the ideas of styles by dr on paul, by others, by an anti war anti establishment. that those conservatives here are hated by the republican party. and i know that's happening throughout the area and, and i, i can tell you, i mean there's, there is one, at least at least one state representative as of the past 7 days. as of last week, who has literally stated, i don't care what the patriot say about me. this is
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a public and state representative. and, and so these people i, i hope that they could get in lock step. we'd hope that there could be unity, but you're already involved and acknowledgement that you care about your base that you care about. these thoughts of the earth, a good, the conservatives of people who are staying on the war. another for terry isn't up, terry. and as i'm another this big farm, a dictatorship, enough of all of this. and those are okay questions that i, i know of not looking to blind i, attorney to blind eye to elections where there are questions about what's going on . our elections is there for you. we look into this and, and these are people who have been demonized, who've been months well emptied it. yeah. but jennifer, you can, you can, you can question the 2016 election of course. but you can question the 2020 election business pop pockets and the we live with. alright, and we're going to go, we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break,
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we'll continue our discussion on tucker calls and the future of the conservative movement say, without taking the the in the year of 1954, the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the white house of boarded the corrupt above the government of southern vietnam. 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. defend the gun was confident that the victory would be on the american
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side. due to its military superiority, however, the enemies during this war into a total hill for the occupants. unable to cope with the guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and naples, which burned all alive. the village of my lay, where he 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including 210 children, became a tragic symbol of this war. all involved during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on vietnam more than $6000000.00 tons of bonds, which is due and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the pop and regime. and so i got involved. however, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 vietnamese people became the
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victims of america in the dressers. the welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter liberal to remind you we're discussing tucker carlson in the future of the conservative movement. the okay, it's go back to denver and tyler and you know, one of the things that i've talked about years on this program is how the professional managerial class has been able to capture the political, the political establishment, both parties here. how do we break out of that? because tucker gave us, you know, i think a path, you know, common sense and challenging power. it shouldn't be unique, but it is at this moment in time. go ahead, tyler? well, i mean you, it's, it's a, that's this, the essential task. and then what, what you're seeing is it's happening now. and i think the age of multi media and give the internet age all the different outside outlets and resources and sources.
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um, are educating people and making them realize that they don't know what used to be a very managed controlled environment. but the problem is how do you translate that into electoral politics? and unfortunately, as i know from my battles and the delaware republican party, years back, beginning with uh, frankly, finding out that these people do not care what the, what the base thinks, what most republican voters think that they're going to do, what they, what they feel is is right for whoever their masters, happy be within the whether financial or political establishment. and this is where we have to, we have to really the where the rubber meets the road and people need to realize that they are empowered. and i think unfortunately, you know, this is why you've seen election fraud become a real thing because they realize that people have awakened and are no longer going to go in lock step or follow just whatever they're served up by the establishment. and in either party, i would hope to see the democrat party burton see the lock broken because that
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means this is truly an evil institution compared to i'd say, you know, the, the i used to kind of, um, scuff had a but they say the stupid bodies are bubbling party in the does that democrats are evil. but i think in, in the age of constant information where people can see the truth where a they tucker carlson, even though he's been taken off the air is more influential perhaps than ever that, that there are avenues to, to uh, translate this into electrical victories because their people are gonna stand for these candidates who will not be. i will not answer the questions that are, are the essential questions for the voters. they will not stand for stage managed politics. you know, where it's just, i mean it's, it's, it's essentially a fraud. i mean, the entire thing is that the time can village really, you know, everything's okay. everything's great. well, it's not. that means it's the exact opposite of what people want and what they expect. and it's going to be a long process. i think because the, these people, these parasites will not give up our easily, and it will not that, that
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a strangle hold they have on the american politics may require the gaps, unfortunately. well, not unfortunately, in some people's cases, but it will require generational change where people like hillary clinton and others finally finally drop dead frankly. and i think, you know, she deserves it more than anybody just developed. and all these, you know, with all these boomer era politicians who have destroyed american politics, turned it into a farce. and a totally 3rd, as you know, it was certainly had his share of corruption. but it was do, sir, is now just thorough corruption. they'll have to dine pass, so i think i think i would cite the lincoln in principle, abraham lincoln, you can, yeah. is he wants that you can full some of the people all the time, all the people, some of the time. but you can not full all the people all the time. that's problem as well. no. talking about pulling people line on, you know, let's look at these, these major issues here. colvin. the national security, stayed here, and they, and both parties. and they saw how much meant they gravitate around these med narratives here. meaning you can't question them. ok,
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that is the problem is that when it comes to national security and health, i mean we all should have a right to question it. but know you're shut down for it. line on the only thing is in addition to that, you know, originally there was something which i never thought i would see it originally. there was something which i never thought i would see. and i think it's relevant. it was a phone that came out the sound of freedom and it was about a child to advocate and human drive, the getting ensure child protection that it wasn't, jim could these all and not mel gibson, but it was saw to be email gibson and it was about him, ballard, and these folks who basically worked from supporters and good christians, trying to fight get this child trafficking. i don't know about you, but i think most people would be against this when you saw the concert incidents when you saw the concerted, choreographed, and orchestrated movement. and in, in, in reaction to this by this professional left who, whoever these media folks are. it's amazing. they saw the people who concern
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themselves about that were part of some kind of a blood conspiracy, sex or whatever. that's number one. number 2, let me tell you the problem that the republicans are making right now. the democrats stole the election 2020 legally. they know exactly what to do. 20 legally . they know exactly what to do. nobody but nobody in the republican party is saying we're ready to go. we have boots in the ground, we have lawyers, we have law firms. we have observers. they are going to have this snatch again from them. so in as much as tuckerman bobby kennedy are doing from mendez things. peters, there are old fashion, plain old hardware rules about elections and how to steal out of preventing from being steal or stolen, that whatever the situation of the republican party is, is forever degeneration of the republican party is, is not doing. but i remain hopeful. and again, remember, tucker carlson is the bill buckley. he may not be in office, but he is a spirit of a neo republic, and i do use that word. and bobby kennedy is a godsend. remember if he goes 3rd party, because let's face it, this is
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a guy who basically had his family destroyed by the same organizations that are trying to destroy this country now. and what a great payback that would be think that's it's a, as i would, i would just know real quick. it's funny because the tucker carlson son his name buckley in in oh, nice. okay. the circle is closed. okay. jennifer, it 11 of my biggest problem, my biggest problem with the g o. p. i'm not, i'm a republican i, i can't be in a party with lindsey graham. sorry. i just can't. okay. and there's a lot of other way my mid bromley, the rest of them. i really can't be in the same club as people like that. jennifer, it really bothers me. is that so many republican establishment, terry? and say they go along with the liberal narrative on almost every single issue and the in a particularly and like mitch mcconnell, he's seems to be comfortable in the minority. you know, i mean, i guess he has time to count as money or something like that. or i just don't see
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the vigor to want to establish an agenda for too many years. we were republicans have been followers, mountain leaders. okay. and of course they did everything to obstruct trump. go ahead jennifer. the way he brought up a good point. no, i don't want to be in a party with, you know, lindsey graham or mitt romney or some of these others. but there's a reason people use the term rhino and when you break that down, republican and name only, they're just democrats. we don't want to be in by an established establishment. democrats. all they care about is the unified with each other. there's the old adage in anyone that lived in washington dc knows this, you know, they, they sit and fight in front of the camera of and then they go and have a drink afterwards. and they, they kind of laugh about it. it's all a show and i think more and more people are seen that you're in a party and then that you don't party that just the that hate then that is pro war pro establishment. you know, a really fascinating thing is beginning to happen and that's at the,
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the grassroots level with the people. if you don't mention your political party, if you don't mention what political party vote with a general people that maybe support what bobby kennedy is saying, um or something else that you've got the new conservative, the tucker conservatives, if you will, with the robert kennedy democrat with the kennedy democrats, if you get those people in a room despite how divided we've been, you know, reprogram to, to, to think that we are those 2 people in our rooms, hucker, republicans, candidates. the democrats will agree on almost every day. yep. they will agree that the government needs to be held in check. they will agree that we're supposed to be asking questions. they'll agree that the vaccine loc, as will romeo want to ask questions about this perpetual war military industrial complex. and the want to do that, and so that's what i think the establishment is the most afraid of the fact that people are finally asking questions they're pressing back. but there is pushed back, you know, it was george orwell that said. and it's, i am of universal to see truth is a revolutionary act,
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and that's how they treat people as revolutions and not as revolutionaries as, as rebels instruction, as others who are trying to just ask questions to get to the true, to say, i'm not buying what you're selling me. yeah. and it's hard because you can talk about what yours for. it's hard for lawyers to there's pushed back against against good constitutional lawyers in this country. well, you know, tyler, i been on the jimmy door and show twice. i mean in, because of it's a, it was a pod cast who lasted a long time. i, everybody knows i'm a conservative and a pretty rigid one on the, on most issues here. but i can talk to jimmy door for the long assignment. we kept looking for a way to disagree with each other, but we really didn't. okay, and we've max blumenthal also. i mean, it's a, well, this is all engineer to divide us whether there is a division. go ahead, tyler? well, you know it's, it's so, and she imagined that because of jimmy jimmy has been, you know, he's the, he'll tell you just the easiest,
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the comedian who realized what was going on and had to speak out as an american. and for years he, uh, essentially there was this notion that you had to sort of disavow tucker carlson as you agree with him in the sense that, that well i, you know, tucker i, you know, in the same thing with alex jones, frankly, does. everybody had to always give these sort of preliminaries if they were not, you know, have it supporters that, oh well, you know, alex jones may be crazy but, and they, they started doing that so much that i noticed the jimmy no longer says well, tucker carlson as well, you know, off the ranch or whatever are you doing? i've noticed the transition i noticed was right, is it exactly the way you did? i remember, yeah. it's finally finally coming to reconciling with a fact that these, these labels and these, uh, these i audiological or political sort of compartmentalization of people were for false. i mean, we agree on more than we disagree about. and then we'd certainly agree on the fundamentals of what this country should be, and this absolutely frightening the hell out of the establishment that is, as
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a totally ruled on the basis of these artificial, this artificial divide, i mean, in any sort of rebels or, or people who would challenge that to me? i worked for newt gingrich when he was minority whip in the an inch is speakership . he only lasted maybe 2 or 3 years, a speaker, roughly from the time of the revolution. so they asked him, put, put in dennis hastert of all people, you know, it was might as well been bob michael, who was the the previous uh, the loyal opposition. minority leader who as you said, you know, did, they did nothing. so you know the system as an abided people like this. but what we have now is an entire sort of parallel infrastructure is rising up. it's far more vital farmer, truthful and touches people or reaches people far better. this, this media fascist media propaganda combine that. we've had in corporate, uh, you know, corporate media for years and that's gonna make the huge difference. yeah. be kennedy's all over all this. i mean, these are easy. well, if you need to. but bobby kennedy and tucker, carlson and jimmy door, i would even say they have a lot they,
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they've given us permission not to hate our neighbor and that is refreshing. ok. you weren't, we don't have to hate. ok. that is an inspiring message coming from the gentleman folks we've run out of time. i want to thank my guest in new york, denver, and, and milwaukee. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time. remember prospect rules the, the gym and so just deal with the, with the one with taking the picture. they were proud of the muscle by the way, to go in your mouth because i didn't pick up my, your opinion or know that he got dirty away, or i. so it was who i see on google. okay. and with and then almost a week ago,
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