tv Interview RT August 10, 2023 9:30am-10:01am EDT
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mazda of the powerful and got a rocket system, and like everything else around here, the scale is absolutely astounding. here we are a top the launch pad. the launch structure for the anger. rock is rush is the latest and most innovative and most advanced rockets system. a long time in developing but now is going to become the center piece of russia's space program. a heavier rock is able to launch in force, huge payloads through the or it's on the sphere into outer space. this past structure will allow russia to deliver bigger, heavier payloads into space and allow it to work with friendly nations on their own space programs without having to rely on any 3rd country to provide the essential infrastructure. being built here at plus duction. and as you can see, the infrastructure is a deed mass of this brand new airport here, invest starchy to complement the new elements of the cosmo drum. here is vast in
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itself. as you can see behind me a brand new terminal building, which will be open to the civilian population of the surrounding regions, benefiting them as has the, a huge amount of work in employment created here. so as rush describes comfortable with the forward into space, this new independent clause withdrawal would ensure bushes place as a leader and space was inability to security, rely on its own live of expertise. and though an entirely rushing cause were drawn to support us. while the scale of rushes ambition, when it comes to space, is defined by the scale of this fast structure, which is emerging from the forest. here in russia's far east, a testament to the scale of scientists, engineers, and the ordinary workers. those of whom are working around the clock here to complete this very, very important piece of infrastructure for russia's space program. this vast piece of infrastructure sends a message to russia for so being on our knees. she's on our feet and she's reaching
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for the stars shaped bows, plus starchy for or t the so look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. we should be very careful about visual intelligence at the point, obviously is to place a trust rather than see it. the area, i mean with artificial intelligence, we have so many with him in the a robot must protect his phone existence with alexis
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[000:00:00;00] the, with the end of world war one. the movement for indian independence from the british empire flared up with renewed vigor. the british responded to the growth of the national liberation movement with arrest and brutal violence. repression cause active resistance. in march 1919 at the call of mahatma gandhi, a peaceful strike began in the country. but the british responded with
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a new round of violence and far bade the indians to gather more than 4 people. on the day of the sea bass at the festivals a huge crowd of civilians gathered in the center of the city of i'm the star in northern india. seeing these as outright defiance. general reginald dyer gave the order to open fire on the, on, on the boat. the barbaric execution claimed the lives of at least 379 indians, including 40 children, the youngest of who was 6 weeks old. the indian national congress considered the official figures to be underestimated and announced the death of more than $1000.00 civilians. the well known greatest newspaper, the morning post called dyre. the man who saved india gave him a sword and to the 6000 pounds sterling as
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a token of gratitude for the massacre. the amorous star massacre wind down in history as one of the most brutal crimes of the british invaders, and only escalated the affair. struggle of the indians for liberation from the colonial yoke. the, the, the domestic. before we start talking about what your father accomplished, i'd like to address the accusation that ben bella was a dictator. if you look back through all of these years, was he really dictated by the holidays and what the thought we and you know, that is meant then bella was by no means of dictates that that's what it other than when he was such and then never dictates in him, he was very democratic for you and she believes very strongly that women should be independent and free. and this was very important to me. my mother, his wife, was
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a well known generalist. none so have you the uh huh. was trusts, gift views. yes, trotsky, yes. she found his asked about the struggle between stalin and trotsky for the main thing was lost in the field. i think we can see beds whether i had been bella was a dictator or not for the 3 years. he wasn't power. i'm not sure how can we call him and dictates a who was trying to build the country that's already how we of course, my father made some political decisions that were not understood by many people at the time, but there was no other choice them there that's which decisions, for example, decisions on whom to phone call lucian's, with the initial term, and with whom it was the country's best interest to for a long time size of the country on the path of destruction after the friendship ended. and of course, the imperialist page says, we call them the european states and from student belief algeria could leave without them, came out. of course, they tried to homo junior in natalie. possible way to how does your father live out his last days in the fall?
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the live to now teary and his final days just to child a lot was chairman of the panel of the wise in the african union. he was busy and travel journal trying to establish and terrific and relations, especially with respect to controversial issues. consent and war to results is that was part of his main work. his other job was a leader of non governmental organization related to the un, the assembly of the south. he also house president, beautifully catalog and the shelf national reconciliation. he was very busy despite his age kind of a i knew who a model he was also famous for smiling. been a whole but sure. yes, he was a very small live person. you could say, smile never left his face, man. very smiley very sociable you from he left last very much. he laughed to read quickly, read 3 books a week. uh, we hope we will see a love to music. i was wondering if it was a life loan and pass, and he said that he spent almost 25 years in prison and the depth say of to change
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him from session. so this isn't 25 years among his enemies. do i do well, tell me as with his imperialism colonialists enemies and 15 with people's, their own close to him with his old julian browsers and from the city in knob so that we will return to the story a little later. i mean, i'm it, ben. bella never wrote a memoir. was that on principle, the fewest categorically gaps that i tried to pass you at him. so yes, i tried to pass, he had him to write down his memories on condition that they would only be published off to 20. 50 or 60. yes ma'am, but he was categorically against it. when he said he was not the one to chat the cause of history and that he couldn't write about himself. he said it was a matter for academics a few months after and jerry is declaration of independence. he visited the rock and tried to speak to a large gathering of people, getting that to him, but his arabic let him down and he almost cried as the the,
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the incident was captured themselves. but after that, he began to speak arabic, perfectly habits out of the executable. does it look like he didn't know airbag and had difficulty learning it and headed out? i'd be, i'd let my bizarre. oh, but festival. there were no arabs codes, and algeria, as all the schools were french, were everson, west adult, and french can. you could only find era, they can books or writers who had started the koran for many years. he attended schools attached to mosque and local self governmental bodies. uh, yeah. send these crews in secondary schools. there was only french and there was no i or they could tell it to the learn arabic and so here on to prison. unfortunately, his spelled the best 70 years of imprisonment and sole treaty in solitary confinement. so if you have some solar tre consignments in guards highest the way the only book that he was allowed to have was speaker, um, can you perhaps look, you rather memorized it?
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which does improved his arabic. we added that we should be grateful to the curriculum that he was allowed to have dispute and can't even when it is improved, his knowledge and comprehension of the language and allowed him to memorize the text by heart minister who half of if we compare and then bell is condition of imprisonment in the french and al jerry and prisons, in the prison of enemies and the prison of his brothers was the attitude towards him about the same job. i've come down to this question because i wasn't born in a french prison a lead for me. i was born then of teary in prison as i think there are differences . what differences i don't know exactly what the difference is with what i would say they existed was he imprisoned a poor under house arrest? look and miss. she was imprisoned in a cell in the military guards. house. 5 young julians into the ship. the soon as you know g erie, it wasn't a place called the way to pay, it's gonna ask if it was
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a guard house at the military base, a military base, landman and us can find in a cell which he could not live. so my phone was only allowed to have our work a few years later, there was a god who watched him and brought him food and he, this was a range so that he couldn't talk in would lose his mind. go mad for cinco law. he didn't. what did your father tell you? how does he manage to maintain his fantasy as well? i think my father was very religious. what did they use? you have very strong space and no luck and very strong that he always had home. when he leaves on these hub all his life in iceland and even in his final days, he had to put in amazing patients for the specially strong space. and what was your father married when he was sent to the french prison? and later to the algerian prison. she had to kill him with as always, you know, the wedding story is very interesting. beautiful and romantic little minds. he is
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it. then my father got married when he was in prison. what was left of 70 as he had the right to dates, can you already have he was visited, get in the french prison? no. and they'll jerry and prisons if he didn't get married to him. he was in the french prison since he got married. when he was over 50 years old, she was quite tell coupon to adel to you and revolution. he married the revolution . he married the revolution as did betray him, like ease, so that it took a how that's complicated to i don't agree with you man. so the revolution put him in jail, just like the french did. yes, the revolution put him in jail, but they brought this out more to blame for that then the revolution. it wasn't the revolution that put him in jail. some of the faces of the revolution. by the way, how was his marriage made possible? it was entitled to one visit to months. how easy usually these lumps have us visited by a friend of his and his wife out or did my father's mother was still alive,
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backs out. and it's just that the she wanted to see how son get married, his men, he just loved adults. that was my grand father visited him every 15 days to just do the conditions where i just go because the prison stuff assessment very nice for you. but that was the situation in the prison, but my friend's wife jokingly told my father that she would find him a bride says she was friends with my mother southwest, allow me. she was the same as gentlest with a french language held during newspaper revolution. after con, she lean towards trotsky yes to use and didn't like my father, and he's supposed to expire much as why your mother. my mother was almost against him politically, but my friends told her, i'm taking you on a date with ben bella. she managed to bring her over to the barracks to put them are we talked for an hour and there was chemistry. she was allowed to met him 3 times and after the set time they asked for mary jane and i was getting president obama deanna agreed. can she must be crazy, he said. let him marry him and live with him in the barracks. then she'll lift him
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if 70 s of soul chicken farm and didn't drive him crazy. so no one can be crazier than his wife. the wife will come and live with him for as a 2 days and months and then he will go mad. but he's, i've stayed with him for 7 years and she was allowed to leave the barracks once a month to visit her family after the marriage. they gave my father a 2nd room, so they have to do a lot of it there. and my mother turned half of the bathroom into the kitchen with um, one of the rooms was a bedroom. and then when i was born, they gave us the said room, one of which became the living room alone, or she was allowed to have books there. so you were the 1st child? yes, i was born in the barracks and lived there on 0 was 5 and a half years old. i'm 16. i was left to walk around the bags. mostly i was applied to one day a week of the soldiers who are eaten assessment kind of food i liked and i would go eat with them and it was the days of the week. i was rude to my new 8 with soldiers . yes, but the soldiers couldn't,
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and you were polite on the days when they served food that you liked. i like setting dishes. yes. i was rude with never. those were and stuff. so you were hostile, very hostile. yes. they were loose from the prison and that was 5 and a half years old. much every year for a year released had the house, the rest and the town of i'm a sale. and it was the 1st time when my father finally got to see all the people and them know people could come and visit him, but he couldn't go outside. now. throughout the year when 5000 or 6000 people came to visit him every day. and then he was completely released one year later we left sold uria. my father decided not to go back to the country. did you go to france? hold on so fast. we went to france to create to the of the policy. and they all had a movement of democracy in algeria to assess the chevy the he also found it out by the a great magazine that you should have had about him on what was that shot now? yes,
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albert deal with the course and when he was in france after being released from the brothers prison, he began his international in arabic activities within 11 fronts. for a long time, we stayed there for no more than 18 months and then you moved to geneva. yes, we moved to geneva since the old year, and so it puts a lot of pressure on us and they didn't. and that osmond doesn't valley from. so we're left for switzerland. so use of switzerland accepted and then bella. and then he began his political activities. let's talk about it then bellas efforts went on . but what did he do? what efforts did he make? i mean, what are the highlights phillips you, how long did you get to the, to the low to the less than america in the arabic? well, so what a lot of the uh, there are things that we can talk about 10, those that are classified to video. there are also things that i don't know about. among the things that we can talk about there is, i think the fact that your father played a role or want you to play
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a role in helping your rock avoid the disastrous more of 1991 when iraq invaded kuwait. after that, the usa and their allies brought together around half a 1000000 troops to make iraq pull out of quail. and the rest is history. the if that was the beginning of the end of the really rock. what could we talk about that in detail? there was little information, but my father is unknown model for model. some people know about it. my father had visited iraq frequently have to a certain extent, a very close relationship with set down the same to mal law have messy on him. so my father got a call from roland dma, who was foreign minister on the president phone. so i me to run this. so if you wanted my father to talk to said, i'm saying you don't do much asked him to help the way my father went to rock and present them, said on whose same promise my father to withdraw from grace. so my father called roland to mine from the swedes in my father, wasn't made rocks when the talk to wrong, and they received
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a phone call about set down withdrawing. yes to be attacked on the next day. that was in february 1991. yes, my father was with saddam. oh my gosh, i have not a when you nothing about him for 2 weeks or of law. yes, there was only able to leap through wrong in the household. the rock is through your on what i can. yes. but he was in a rock when the last the attack against it, the french cool. the americans hadn't confounded saddam had promised my father to leave. rog know, so the americans have our would never be ok with that. where they can then i'm going to can, they would have continued the offensive and, and the 2nd census with a sit down with pull out of kuwait to not. and i mean, of course, they came with half a 1000000 troops armed to the fullest, the that's what sadly been bellows to them. who's saying roland, do mount and make 2 runs,
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has passed away the truth and took many secrets with them. maybe the european party is still keeps it secrets of lives. yes. rights there are kaiser there archives, documentation and freedom of speech, but trolling, dumont didn't to play a role in trudy's didn't was he wasn't playing a role against iraq, the layout. so they told the americans that saddam was leaving and us adults is having fun. see what they in, for example, on the same day with my father told them on. sure. do you remember what date less? no, i can remember a no can. yeah, i mean, i only recall i was with my mom and we talked to him over the phone to the phone when you've talked to him while he was in baghdad. yes, he was in both dogs, them and then communication was gone. 2 days later, the woman that is in 2 days when the talks are wrong, that is 2 days before the attack. you yes, 2 or 3 days to place, you know?
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yes. in the run up to the invasion of iraq, that is early in the 3rd millennium, and we'll see the diet. did your father have the strength to play that role? and she told me to have the steps in a row communication with lots of european political sake as she has seen. and it'll be in, you know, can you talk to them that that's, that'll be home. do you have communication with saddam hussein? and we'll try because these i'm all novice, these can fit it in many things, but unfortunately them to them to the efforts were not successful. he also knew many arab leaders didn't he? they are. that's how they'd be. ok. no yes he had great relationships with mama could not see it shouldn't then get it, but it was the when i now the latest but they passed away before him. i didn't see a dean or they can a month, a month or 4. yes, they passed away before him in most that are big countries. he was treated with
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great respect them all levels. speaking of brotherly relationships with arabic, countries for and how to be. what was ben bella's attitude towards morocco and mother? were there any problems in their relationship back then? no, just hold the $9.00 to $6.00 days. there was a slight problem who is has some of the 2nd, but my father had the dream of the great that are big, small grow. yeah. new americans are loved brothers, west very close, both cultural in historically menu americans and l. gerry and stuff and mix families can wear one country. yes, he dreamed about the great arabic month for the father came back, but he had great relationship with ken mohammed, the statesman, who, to a large extent, helped belgian or in revolutions to the area of the mall. of do not sir, was silvia unions. number one, ally in africa. it was also a great liable area. yes, algeria to have did you father see him as an ally of the soviet union?
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much in the same way she had been to the soviet union and is that correct? yes, he did visit the ussr and he was very much out of it with him. a defensive push for both economic and military partnership between the 2 countries. got a lot of kids that i absolutely can do this. use chung good to us economically, socially, politically, for what he's friendship with russia was not based on having to call him and the main use of the to just truly loved the russians and he had no fear. so your father returned. tell jerry when political life got revitalized and multi party politics squared introduced? correct. yes. and did you come back to start a new already? no, he already had this policy. so he wants to reorganize it from within the yes one where it's on sale g area his spots. he was already a major player. there was some issues with the is witnessed a my father felt that the overall well being of the country was more important than the interest of just one party. so he gave it up,
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and joan the effort to watch national reconciliation, the 10 art with some painful years. now then as if i did, i should i have some fortunately those 10 years they were bloody telemundo. not only will the bloods eat their words, savage states and for entire generations. food would then hold people's minds for families, for the lovely hurts with the middle. as you, willow, said t as in one decade. what role would you say your father played and the national reconciliation movement? imagine one as long as several stripes from this lofty movement to more than this trans of islam all have trusting him. suppose if he's views in president, beautifully, car reached out to my father. i have conversations with him see many agreements between the elements and my father were reached in our very house enough to that president would just like i carried out his plan for national reconciliation. if you attended the russia, africa summit and st. petersburg. and now you're here in moscow to some of the
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participants of the forum, our children and grandchildren of african leaders and revolutionaries. so would you consider forming a union's warrant association of some sort together a little bit to see if there's a more until we do need something like that. however, instead of being political in nature, it should be more of a cultural association. and so it goes to tackle social issues and humanitarian asia. so it could improve africa's image globally and bring the africans closer together. yeah, i mean, after all, as a continental, africa should represent all of its people as a single entertainment on african must be stronger in order to express in our own way, our independence, our identity and culture. do you expect the children and grandchildren of african leaders to join you? do you expect any of good off these relatives to join? you be to look at the scene and i hope they would need from them, hopefully ducks or ration, dr. saves good. i'll see you would join us,
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so the rest of the group has to be on that side. so that's a fairly we'll see that yes. and if that happens to the children of leaders, whose countries were devastated by the arrogant colonizers would have done in my diet, will be able to claim their rights as representatives of these ravaged countries to restore justice on behalf of their fathers, patrice lumber, and more and more good off you were brutally murdered, treated like criminals, but even a criminal should stand trial 1st. it's good off you committed crimes in his own country. he should have been brought to trial in a fair libyan court. not face and need a lynch mob. the president, remember, committed no crimes against his own people. he fought for his people's independence for freedom. why? but he was murdered in cold blood. american intelligence agencies shot down the plain of the un secretary general dog, how my shoulder, who wanted to find a solution to the congo problem,
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because it was not in america's interest to have the matter solved to know, cuz we still see this american french colonial brutality across the globe, shouldn't these dogs be brought to justice? and it is our rights, the rights of all african arab asian, unless american countries to demand compensation for these crimes. people said that valiant well as loud sue, the one said it was a journey of a 1000 miles begins with a single step. if your mother were alive, she would have liked that saying she would have loved it inside. she'd have been so inspired by it. she might have started to protest, in any case, we're really happy to see you in most count the corner of the end about st. petersburg and st. petersburg, the city is like an outdoor museum. i hope that future segments focus even more on the african continent. when
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