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is go to the pollution conference and that way have not been support. you've called what has been happening here. it will open the ponder as box the next thing it will be them for then also have to pay the everything had changed with our daughter. she was completely when they came back and they told jamie, your daughter is having a diabetic ketoacidosis. i was miserable. i just felt sick and nauseous. part of the cancer diabetic prefer entourage that affects every part inventory and assist merican diabetes association is that the american diabetes association has been bought all by the millions of dollars that the pharmacy corporations hit them every
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year. i wasn't given a specific di it just told to inject and test. so i wish i could go back and change the governing bodies, put these recommendations out, forces physicians to live within those guidelines for fear of reprisals. people have not been told the full truth on how to manage the diabetes and what, what the consequences are funding low carbohydrate diet. there was a multiple $1000000000.00 example corporations that will go bankrupt the company that live domestic needs. before we start talking about what your father accomplished, i'd like to address the accusation that ben bella was a dictator. if you look back through all of these years,
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was he really dictated by the holidays and what the thought we'd and you're not that is a smith and bella was by no means of dictates that that's what it at. but then when he was such and then never dictates in him, he was very democratic for you and she believed very strongly that women should be independent and free. and this was very important to me. my mother, his wife, was a well known journalist. none, so he's the out. how was shots gift views? yes, trotsky. yes. she found his asked about the struggle between stolen and trotsky for the main thing was lost and i think we can see bad weather. i had been bella was a dictator and not for the 3 years he wasn't power. i'm not sure how can we call him and dictates a who was trying to build the country, tory, how we, of course, my father made some political decisions that were not understood by many people at the time. but there was no other choice than that. so which decisions, for example, decisions on whom to phone call lucian's, with initial term,
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and with whom it was the country's best interest to form long term size of the country on the path of destruction after the friendship and into infinity. of course, the perilous state says we call them the european states and from student belief, while julia could leave without them came out. of course they tried to homo junior in nap re possible way through. how does your father live out his last days in the fall? the live to now teary, and his final days is the child a lot. was chairman of the panel of the wise in the african union. he was busy and traveled to lot, trying to establishing terrific and relations, especially with respect to controversial issues. consent and war to result says that was part of his main work. he's all the job was a leader of non governmental organization related to the un, the assembly of the south hills, to help president beautifully catalog and the shelf national reconciliation. he was very busy despite his age, how many kind of a i knew who a model he was also famous for smiling, been a whole but sure. yes, he was
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a very small, it pester, you could say smile never left his face. mary. very smiley very sociable. he left last very much. he laughed to read it quick. you read 3 books a week. uh, we hope we will see, love to music. i was wondering if it was a life loan and pass, and i need to that he spent almost 25 years in prison on the depth say of to change himself, sir, she is 25 years among his enemies. do i do? well? tell me as with his am perilous and colonial list enemies and 15 with people down close to him with his old julian browsers and from the city in knob so that we will return to the story a little later. i mean, i'm it, ben. bella never wrote a memoir, was that on principle to us categorically gaps that i tried to pass you at him? so yes, i tried to pass, you had him to write down his memory some condition that they would only be
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published off to twins, a 50 or 60. yes ma'am, but he was categorically against it. when he said he was not the one to chat the cause of history and that he couldn't write about himself. he said it was a matter for academics a few months after and jerry is declaration of independence. he visited the rock and tried to speak to a large gathering of people, getting that to him, but his arabic let him down and he almost cried advocate the, the incident was captured on film. but after that, he began to speak arabic, perfectly habits out. i'd be interested what does it look like? he didn't know airbag and had difficulty learning at you headed out. i'd be out it's i let my bizarre. oh, but 1st of all, there were no arab schools in algeria and all the schools were french when everson was stopped in french can, you could only find arrow, they can book. so right this who had started the career on so many years, he attended schools attached to mosque and local self governmental bodies. uh, yeah, some of these crews in secondary schools,
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there was only french and there was no r vacant, so it didn't learn arabic. and so here on to prison, unfortunately, his spelled the 1st 7 years of imprisonment and sole strategy in solitary confinement. so if you have some solitary confinement in gars has to be what he the only book that he was allowed to have was speaker um, but absolutely rather memorized it, which does improve these arabic. we added that we should be grateful to the curriculum that he was allowed to have this book and can't even when does this improved his knowledge and comprehension of the language and allowed him to memorize the text by how many more half of them if we compare then belle is condition of imprisonment in the french and algeria and prisons, in the prison of enemies. and the prison of his brothers was the attitude towards him without the same job either come down to this question because i was in bone and a french prison, a lead for me. i was born and teary in prison as i think there are differences.
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what differences i don't know exactly what the difference is with what i would say they existed. was he imprisoned, poor under house arrest, work and as he was imprisoned in a cell in the military guards house, 5 young julians into the ship. the soon as you know, jerry, it wasn't a place called a way to pay a tech and ask if it was a guard house at the military base. a dan, a military base slamming and he was couldn't find in a cell which he could not live some photos. it was only allowed to half our work. a few years later there was a god who watched him and brought him food. and he, this was a range so that he couldn't talk in would lose his mind. go mad for cinco law, he didn't. what did your father tell you? how does he manage to maintain his fantasy as well? i think my father was very religious. what today and he had very strong faith and no luck and very strong. and he always had home when he leaves on these hub all his
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life, just a nice not a mental new even in his photo days he had to put an amazing patients for the specially strong space. and then when i said was your father married when he was sent to the french prison? and later to the l julian prison, she had to tell them what there's always, you know, the wedding story is very interesting. beautiful and remind take little means he is and then uh my father got married when he was in prison. uh well, what was left of 70 is he had the right to dates. can you uh he was visited uh, getting in the french prison. no, they'll jerry in prison. he didn't get married to him. he was in the french prison since he got married to him. he was over 50 years old. she was quite occupied with l. g. r and revolution. he married the revolution. he married the revolution. eh, did it'd be tre, him like eas. so that took a how that's complicated to i don't agree with you, man. so the revolution put him in jail, just like the french did. yes,
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the revolution put him in jail, but they brought this out more to blame for that then the revolution. it wasn't the revolution that put him in jail. some of the faces of the revolution. by the way, how was his marriage made possible? it was entitled to one visit to months. how easy is it easily once he was visited by front of his and his wife out or did my father's mother was still alive back then. it's just the tea. she wanted to see how son get married. his men who just sloughed adults, that was my grand father, visited him every 15 days to just do the conditions where just go because the prison stuff assessment very nice for you. but that was the situation in the prison . but my friend's wife jokingly told my father that she would find him a bride says she was friends with my mother, suffer salami. she was the same as gentlest with a french language held during newspaper revolution. after con, she lean towards trotsky. yes, to use and didn't like my father, and he's supposed to expire much as why your mother. my mother was almost against
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him politically, but my friends told her, i'm taking you on a date with ben bella. she managed to bring her over to the barracks to put them are. they talked for an hour and there was chemistry. she was allowed to met him 3 times. and after the set time they asked for mary jane and i was getting president obama deanna agreed. she must be crazy, he said. let him marry him and live with him in the barracks. uh then she'll let him know if 7 he has of soul chicken farm and didn't drop him crazy. so no one can be crazier than his wife is. the wife will come and live with him for as a 2 days a month, and then he will go mad. but he's, i've stayed with him for 7 years a matter um to is allowed to leave the barracks once a month to visit his family after the marriage. they gave my father a 2nd room so they have to worry about that to my mother. town house was a bathroom and so the kitchen when it, um, one of the rooms was a bedroom and then when i was born they gave us the said room,
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which became the living room alone, or she was allowed to have books there. so you are the 1st child. yes, i was born in the barracks and lived there until was 5 and a half years old. comes to sing. i was allowed to walk around the barracks mostly. i was lied to one day a week of the soldiers who were eaten assessment kind of food i liked and i would go eat with them. and it was the days of the week. i was rude. you 8 with soldiers . they asked with the soldiers queen and you were polite on the days when they served food that you liked like such and dishes? yes, i was rude whenever those were incense, so you were hostile, very hostile. yes. and they were loose from the prison when that was 5 and a half years old. but the 4 year relief tied, the house, the rest and the town of i'm a sailor. it was the 1st time when my father finally got to see all the people and i'm nice people could come and visit him, but he couldn't go outside. now. throughout the year and 5000 or 6000 people came to visit him every day. and then he us can place a release one year later,
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we left. so julia, my father decided not to go back to the country. did you go to france? on so fast? we went to france to create to the of the policy. and they all had a movement of democracy in algeria to assess the chevy the he also found it out by the a great magazines that you should have had about him. i know it was a shot now. yes. out, but deal with the course. and when he was in france, after being released from the brothers prison, he began his international in arabic activities within 11 friends for a long time. we stayed there for no more than 18 months. and then you moved to geneva. yes, we moved to geneva since the old year, and so it puts a lot of pressure on us and the stage amount of that i sent them valley from so were left for switzerland. stories of switzerland except an authentic vandella. and then he began his political activities, let's talk about it, then bella's efforts and whatnot. but what did he do? what efforts did he make?
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i mean, what are the highlights to let you, how long did you get to the 50, the low to the less in america, in the arabic? well, so what a lot of the there are things that we can talk about 10, those that are classified to video. there are also things that i don't know about. among the things that we can talk about there is, i think the fact that your father played a role or wanted to play a role in helping your rock avoid the disastrous more of 1991 when iraq invaded kuwait. but after that, the usa and their allies brought together around half a 1000000 troops to make iraq pull out of quail. and the rest is history. the that was the beginning of the end of the really rock. for could we talk about that in detail? there is little information, but my folder, it is a known model for model. some people know about it. my father had visited iraq. frequently. he had to a certain extent,
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a very close relationship with set down his same to mal law, have messy on him. so my father got a cold from roland duma, who was foreign minister on the president funds. so i me to run this. so if you wanted my father to talk to, so don't say on july yes, attempt to help in the way my father one to rock can president set on who's st. promised my father to withdraw from quays. so my father called roland to mind from this weekend and my father was in a rock when the i talked to wrong and they received a phone call about set them withdrawing, yet still be attached to him. the next day that was in february 1991. yes my father was with saddam. oh my gosh. on the 8th when you nothing about him for 2 weeks and it's just la. yeah, there was only able to leap through run in with the help of the iraq his through iran would. i can. yes, but he wasn't a rock when the last the attack against it, of the french called the americans. hamilton found that saddam had promised my father to leave iraq. no. so the americans, however,
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would never be okay with that blended to where they can then i mean again, they would have continued this time. so if in any circumstances, whether saddam would pull out of kuwait to not, and i mean, of course, they came with half a 1000000 troops armed to the fullest. and that's what sadly had been bellows to them. who's saying roland, do mount and make 2 runs, has passed away the truth and took many secrets with them. maybe the european party is still keeps it secrets of lives. yes, rights there are kaiser there archives, documentation and freedom of speech the way, but trolling. dumont didn't to play a role in trudy's didn't was, he wasn't playing a role against iraq the layout. so they told the americans that saddam was leaving the must have done to have any further and see what they in ford sat on the same day with my father told them. sure. do you remember what date less? no, no, i can't remember a no can. yeah, i mean,
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i only recall i was with my mom and we talked to him over the phone to the phone when you've talked to him while he was in baghdad. yes, he was in bunk dog them and then communication was gone. 2 days later, the woman that is in 2 days when the talks are wrong, that is 2 days before the attack. yes, 2 or 3 days at least. yes. in the run up to the invasion of iraq, that is early in the 3rd millennium, and we'll see the diet. did your father have the strength to play that role? and it's, it can feed, told me to have the steps in a row communication with lots of european political sake as seen in or been know. can you talk to them about some be home? do you have communication with saddam hussein and tell because these are my mothers, these confused. okay. did many things, but unfortunately them to the 11th and the efforts were not successful. he also
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knew many arab leaders didn't he? they, i that's how that'd be ok. now to can, yes, he has great relationships with monica now. see, it shouldn't then get it, but it was the when i now the latest, but the passed away before him. i didn't see a dean or they can a mazda moment. so a full yes, they passed away before him the most that are big countries. he was treated with great respect them all levels. it'd be the speaking of brotherly relationships with arabic countries or and how to be, what was ben bell as attitude towards morocco and mother? were there any problems in their relationship back then? no, no, no, just hold the 9 to 6 days. there was a slight problem who is has some of the 2nd, but my father had the dream of the crate that are big, small grow. yeah. new americans are loved brothers, west very close, both gold trillion historically menu americans and algeria and stuff, and mix families where one country. yes, he dreamed about the great arabic month for the father came back,
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but he had great relationship with ken mohammed, the statesman, who, to a large extent, helped build sharing revolutions to the area of the mall. of do not sir, was silvia unions. number one, ally in africa, it was also a great liable area. yes, algeria to, to have, did you father see him as an ally of the soviet union? much in the same way. she had been to the soviet union and even today, yes, he did visit the ussr and he was very much out of it with him. a defensive push for both economic and military partnership between the 2 countries. got a lot of kids that are absolutely disuse, trauma, guitars, economically, socially, politically, for what he's friendship with russia was not based on having to call them. and the most of the teachers truly loved the russians and had it who knew no fee. so your father returned. tell jerry when political life got revitalized and multi party
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politics squared introduced? correct. yes. did you come back to start a new already? no, he already had the spots here. so he wants to reorganize it from within the yes one where it's on sale, jerry. yeah, he's spotty was a radian major player. so there was some issues with the is with us. and my father felt that the overall well being of the country was more important than the interest of just one policy. so he gave it up, and joan the effort to watch national and reconciliation, the 10 ardo some painful years. now then as if i did, i should i have some fortunately those 10 years they were bloody. not only will the bloods eat, there were savage states and for entire generations. food with the people's minds for families, for the lovely hertz to the middle is you will upset t as in one decade. what role would you say your father played and the national reconciliation move him? imagine one is in the midst of all stripes from this last movement to more than
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this trains of islam all had trust in him support of his views and president brought to flicker reach out to my father. i have conversations with him. the many agreements between the elements and my father were reached and i was very house enough to that president would just like get carried out his plan for national reconciliation. a minute if you attended the russia africa summit and st. petersburg. and now you're here in moscow to some of the participants of the forum, our children and grandchildren of african leaders and revolutionaries. so, would you consider forming a union worn association of some sort together? nobody seems to jump more until we do need something like that. however, instead of being political in nature, it should be more of a cultural association. so it goes to tackle social issues and humanitarian asia. so it could improve africa's image globally and bring the africans closer together . yeah. and then, after all, as a continental, africa should represent all of its people as
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a single entertainment on african must be stronger in order to express in our own way, our independence, our identity and culture. do you expect the children and grandchildren of african leaders to join you? do you expect any good off these relatives to join you? beta look at duffy and i hope they would need from them, hopefully ducks or ration. dr. saves good. i'll see you with join us, so the rest of the group has to be on that side. so that's a fairly we'll see. yeah, yes. and if that happens, the children of leaders whose countries were devastated by the arrogant colonizers would have done, am i that will be able to claim their rights as representatives of these ravaged countries to restore justice on behalf of their fathers, patrice lumber, and more and more good off, you were brutally murdered, treated like criminals, but even a criminal should stand trial 1st. if good off, you committed crimes in his own country. he should have been brought to trial in
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a fair libyan court. not face and need a lynch mob. the president, remember, committed no crimes against his own people. he fought for his people's independence for freedom, but he was murdered in cold blood. american intelligence agencies shot down the plain of the un secretary general dog, how my shoulder, who wanted to find a solution to the congo problem, because it was not in america's interest to have the matter solves to know that we still see this american french colonial brutality across the globe, shouldn't these dogs be brought to justice? and it is our rights, the rights of all african arab, asian, and less american countries out of to demand compensation for these crimes will be helpful. but that, that we well as louse to one said it was a journey of a 1000 miles begins with a single step. if your mother were alive, she would have liked that saying she would have loved it inside. she'd have been so
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inspired by it. she might have started to protest, in any case, we're really happy to see you in moscow in the corner of the end about saint petersburg and saint petersburg. the city is like an outdoor museum. i hope that future summits focus even more on the african continent of the one a willing the, the, the, the, the,
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the in 1881. seeking to expand its property in north africa, france decided to attack and easy. the invasion began with a bomb barred man of the french fleet on coastal cities and was followed by sending in the ground through the french easily occupied one of the key cities, these air and the bay of doing this bomb at the 3rd us deep agreed to humiliating negotiations, the bartow trade, he concluded with a colonialist, establishing a project to rid of france, overton easier. however, the people up to an easy, i would not surrender to the enemy. at the call of the islamic clergy between easy as rows, do a holy war against the invaders. the soldiers of the bays army also joined the resistance. the french troops did not get an easy walk. vieira patriots bought desperately, but failed to defeat a huge and well armed army,
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which was supported by the strongest fleet. within a year the rebels were defeated. this turned out to be a real tragedy for the country. about one 7th of the population together with the fighters left for neighboring libya. thousands of people died during the warfare. the french flag was raised over to an easy colonial authorities tried to deprive the country of a air of identity and populated with european settling. such an easy instead now brought up with the loss of freedom era. patriots had been fighting against french colonialism for decades until to an easier gain to independence. in 1956 the mostly the equations,
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