tv Cross Talk RT August 11, 2023 10:30pm-11:01pm EDT
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the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome across stock were all things are considered i'm funeral about was afraid of robert f. kennedy junior. well, apparently everyone in the political establishment and mainstream media. very much like donald trump. he says, what do you think liberal pie if he's be damned, or if k junior is feared, because he's fearless the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal, the media analyst, and in north florida we have tom logo. he is publisher of the gold goats and guns
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blog and newsletter. alright, gentlemen, prospect rolls on the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated. all right, i know it's got to go to you in new york um, a little high probably on my part of my introduction there. my. i'm not endorsing robert f kennedy junior, but very much like be to 2016 but presidential campaign, which i was gonna skip this way. you know, to look if it's domestic politics. and then there was a guy named donald trump and then there was a guy named bernie sanders. well, bernie sanders blamed the birds and crashed trumpets the width is but robert f. kennedy is changing the way this campaign is being looked at, a much to disagree and of the establishment and the media thoughts. hi, this week my wife and i went to see about we kennedy junior, at a event here which volleyball t uh when he was dis invited to the center for ethical culture because he of course, but we're not,
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i became an anti semite. bobby can the juniors and that the somebody because he dared to suggest that there might be, believe it or not, they demographic or genetic component to different diseases like oh, i don't know, tay sachs and, and a sickle cell anyway. make a long story short. he had to redeem himself. he was uninvited, at the center of the go, called your were robert oppenheimer with the school. that's the, you know, she was moved a gentleman cuz it was a, a, it was one stock needs. coachella needs uh, firing line people from f, and here's the best part. every demographic, i've seen a little babbage years chip, easy, these old young, black white gaze straight. she has done what, what trump has done. i am writing his name in no matter what. and one more be i don't want to speak too much. my dream, my crazy dream is vice president is tucker carlson to drive people from the like
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the me drive people from the right, bobby drives people from the left. we just integrate this left right. this, this ridiculous illusion of the left right paradigm because ronald reagan, the laughter mike punch was into a car relate. and you gentlemen, knowing what you know will be also a viable candidate because it's about connecting. so here, the greatest thing, and that's why gavin, know somebody is going to be set up jos on his way out as evidence this week, by, by 100 please. so the world, it is a change. it, it seems like why don't you read tom's blog? think about the fair enough yet, and i advise everybody to know it's very interesting. one of the things that really sticks out is that, but um, is more popular among republican buffett or spending the democratic voters. i'll get splits is a really interesting thing here. and also talk you said in your, in your recent blog and i'm paraphrasing, i go down because i want to take it out of context of robert f. kennedy junior is
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more of a threat than trump explain yourself. oh, because i really do think that it when they want to pull the plug on trump, they can legally and i and it's not because trump should be in the legal trouble or that he did anything wrong. but this is just the way they, they operate and more over i think that a kennedy is safer than trump. kennedy doesn't re, or people like trump does like trump rings out. they are rational in a lot of people. and it's for this reason that even though i'm, you know, i don't have a hard time believing that joe biden got 81000000 boats. i can also make an argument that, you know, donald trump is so divisive that every body just came off. the sidelines is that, you know, want to get rid of this guy. and because i believe the gas light in, or they, or however you want to put it like it. so for that reason you gotta think, ok, kennedy is not,
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he's not that guy. and so he's reasonably acceptable to republicans because he's talking about, you know, it's, it's, it's, the one is as final point it, he's the guy who can reach the center better than from can. because trump polls fairly with the center of soccer much she just does. and it's, that's the reality of it. so, you know, in some ways, i think they leave trump in this game, depending on how things play out. because if they can now, now strategically, if i'm the democrats on doing that, like what am i able at? and i go, all right, how do we, how do we deal with bobby kennedy? we get rid of him and we leave top in the game to run against gavin bruce. and because that is the perfect set up for them to steal the auction again. well, you know what, it's the authenticity element here. line line. i don't know if you saw bobby's interview you on the breaking points a few months ago and it was just an an abomination. and it was a typical m s. m d. c. i bought. never let him answer a question. okay,
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never let him answer a question. okay. and then he is on bill mar, which was kind of, he's always kind of bizarre, but he's a real intellectual, bobby kennedy. here's a very interesting things to say. smell again, i want to practice what is going to happen, not that i agree all the time, but there's a person that makes me sit and watch the entire thing, which is very rare in our media environment line. that's an open, but much, much split to disabuse ourselves of feeling that we always have to say, you know, not that i agree with them because you have an idea, but we're talking about vaccines and let, let me just say something before we get to it. if i had to advise bobby a couple of things at 1st, lose the vaccine narrative. you said you've spoken, move on, give me a narrow to give him, give me a worldview, talk about other things. show me the bread, go to what really a, a hits people. number 2, there's an, there's an intellectual part of them, which is nice, but america is on intellectual. we want to feel something we want to connect. tell me something that's important. number 3, as far as from goes, i love trump,
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the way i used to like the ramones, it was a weird acquired taste. you wouldn't want to play it at a wedding. i appreciate what they did in the scheme of things, but are they going to be taught 40 trump? we have developed an allergy to him. the trump of 2016. it's over is vaudeville, bell, bottoms disco. it's most styled you for his own good. for the rest of us plus, she will be don't you think gentlemen, he will be far more effective busy? emma knows greece as the, the grandmother of the, the kingmaker. he would be with one tweet. i'm going to say this. there's no power in being the president. there is no, that's not if you want to change things. if you want to make my favorite movie and is the murmur races of starlings, how they move and this has make i how do they do? and is that what he does? and believe me, gavin gross and me to say which i'm going to steal repeatedly by when police down
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gavin is their last chance. it's the hail mary. and by the way, it's going to be gretchen whitmore as his number 2 because already there they are. oh yeah. they are staring. and one more thing, the big money dams who basically came in the, the shuttle government folks who contaminated this democratic party are now realizing folks, this is not, you know, of the genital mutilation. and puberty. bob blockers where and i have a, they've come from no stop. they've lost control. it's very interesting. it sounds good. there's the, everybody knows i'm a conservative, i'm very open to body parts, but it's, there's so many is so many people that i did want to listen to bobby kennedy and it's like, and then i, i recognize his politics, which the politics of is his father and uncle, okay, i mean, and it's not that i agree with the, but i recognize that i don't recognize the left right now. it's for me, it's as babble. i have no idea what they're talking about,
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but i know it's not good for me. i know that for sure, and i think that's what bobby kennedy does. people they can understand what he's talking about without being threatened, without being a feel like if they're being talked down to. i think i think people do like uh, having intelligent conversation. i think that's it, that demonstrates how popular podcasts are now because there's a long form you can really go out and do a deep dive. and every time i listen to him, talk about something, not about vaccines or anything else, but like you made him. if he could completely made the sean hannity a full on his own program and now are a did that or is it doing the pro pro can to the audience and they were cheering for bobby, not for the stupidity that the hannity which sound display every single night monday through friday. right. i mean, there's a couple of things here. i, i like this is the thing and kind of the strategy and what she elucidated on the rug and podcast. right. was very clear. i, i my, my,
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my partner in crime over go guessing, honest extra wife said, dude, you must listen to a watch. the whole thing you did stay to the end. you have to listen to the whole thing. like i know you don't have time on that. you're over schedule that no, you don't want to do it. i did it. and i got done with it most out on the porch, my wife. well, she was doing a pottery and we listen to the whole thing together. and we got to the last 20 minutes where he laid out his strategy and i'm like, he's running the 2016 trunk playbook except he's not using twitter. he's going to use twitter, but he's you think belong for media of podcast in order to break through what? well, i know talked about not getting my name is nbc, so they can interrupt them and they can, they can run their script just like don't let them talk in front of congress. and so that'd be awesome. and shelves could sit there and brand this dance and all, i mean, this is the, this is the play, right? this is the path of mine that we all go through and how scripted, all of the stuff is. and clearly the,
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we live in the golden age of pod casting because people want something better. and they want better discourse and they're demanding better discourse. and if they're gonna shut us up in our homes and tell our kids that the only the only value they have that society is consuming as a little food as possible. playing video games and watching parent hub brand. these kids are going to listen to off a lot of pod cast as they're media. they're not going to listen to the cnn. cnbc is . and so kennedy can knows that he can break through that. so i agree with you while vinyl. yeah, i mean the vaccine stuff is important. get rid of the cam trails do like this is the stuff that like drives me. not absolutely all, but focus on pollution, not climate change. your app. i have dire mental books as a buyer. mental bone advisor outstanding and he's doing is talking about the one thing that environmentalist never talked about. asking people who should i bring the thing that everybody agrees about know which read take exactly, which is nonsense to write a ball slip, right. the bible, they always do the status against each other and play the strauss in 2 steps needs
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as it does this synthesis march broad minus towards for him to a dollar carrying doesn't. that's what they always do. like this is this done, british and my 6 stop and it just bothers me to know when we break through that. we move on a jump in the way by the way, that table. but aside from that, i don't need for it pretty well. we have uh, a couple of things. straightened strauss took it from head. oh, sorry, no like space. um i know you sound like your apart, your pads. buchanan mc. somebody does a comb. we're just kidding. 2 things. um they, they lapse my load, your browser. they like that the are, they are the last that up the are with the, with the radios they, they even thought that lincoln was unprofessional, because he actually took pictures. but let me throw something and i agree with you . what we got. i think the 3 of us secretly believe we would never say on the campaign trail because people can't handle it because people are children. just like if we had a restaurant, everything that we liked to eat, we wouldn't put out there. we went to go for what's popular to i agree with this
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deal engineering not now. you know, flatter not now, not ever but a couple of things but, but i, but i'm on the whole that, that line on a couple of things. hold up. i, we're going to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the candidacy of robert f. kennedy junior state with r t the the path to the establishment of the boxes where his email is been in 1933. the physician of the indigenous population in the portuguese colonies deteriorated
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dramatically, especially in angola. decatur, antonio de, i live at salazar, encourage colonizing the angolan lands by europeans, and sought after turning the country into a portuguese province. where the and goldens would be 2nd class people. in 1961, there was an outbreak of violence on the part of the portuguese, in revenge for the plantation workers, dry portuguese aircraft bomb. the villages in northern angola and race riots took place in african parts of lawanda. the people of angelo rose in an armed rebellion . the road jealousy of the colonialists knew no bounds. despite the un calls to stop the violence, the portuguese only intensified their terror against the rebels. the 40s actively use the political contradictions between various groups of rebels during the war colonial aircraft. regularly use a farm and drop the fully ends on peaceful villages. the portuguese empire was
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severely exhausted by the struggle against the national liberation movements. the revolution in portugal brought down the plazas, freezing, and put it in to the murder as war against the people of angola. on january 15, 1975, the elbow or agreements were assigned and the country gained independence after so many years of the brutal war, the to welcome back to ground stuff were all things are considered. i'm peter. although this is the home editions remind you were discussing the candidates, see a robert f kennedy junior. the
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eyes go back to the do you want to do a mentioned a few points before we went to our hard break. yeah. garb allows that. i'm not a conspiracy theorist. i mean, i'm a gets, there's the analyst, but i gotta tell you this much. and you can disagree all you want. but if we can put bobby kennedy on the couch, then say, bobby, i think we know the people responsible for your father and your uncle, where are not the, the named actors in this particular passion play, you know, and, and i know what number to your own family including jack slash bag, who was pulled up to this this uh, this where he kind of a hostage video where he is, he has crashing him. bobby kennedy to the point where he said, you know what, i'm 70 years old. i'm going to go out and i'm going to make a mark and let me also say something. the people that i could destroy, the people who destroyed my family. i took away my father and i was a kid for the people who are pushing joe by. and so what a beautiful way for me to leave my mark and my legacy to buy up and to get and believe it or not, this is for you dad. don't think there isn't
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a part of him that said i'm going to get because he has been against. remember, he took this battle on it gets big pharma knowing, knowing where they were like she loved does this stuff. and what a way to bring the entire left right paradigm down and don't think that doesn't weigh in his subconscious. and that's as good spirit notorious as i'm going to be today. at least any open line or has such an interesting observation. yeah, i thought about this here. why is he doing this? he's on 70 years old. he's extremely well off. i mean, there's no more royal name in american politics than kennedy. i mean he's made the shade and is it pretty good shape? yeah, well, okay. i mean, why the hell should do it? i think a lot of this game is the explanation. what do you think? well, i would say that's, that's also it also goes back to the one of my favorite articles that ever read in my life, which is the whole gary north top layer, big thing, which is that a man's life can be laid out as a 3 layer cake when you're young, man, and you look for yourself when you, when you become a middle a very from a family,
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you start living through a family and then once your families round, you now have to leave a legacy behind. how do you want to be remember? who do you want to do? do you want everyone, what, what, you know, at the end of the day, who shows up to your funeral? right. so this is what's driving them like trump. this is what's driving them like kennedy. it's what's driving a lot of it's just like driving me. i don't know, but you guys but that drives me every day. right. so like at the end of the day, i'd like my daughters know the ground. that's just my business. my next phase of my life, right? and this is important, like so why is he doing it? it's the same argument as to why jerome powell is that still at the federal reserve man's were the 100 $1000000.00. going back to private equity during the 0 bound interest rate, daniel the martino. but back to this point all the time could be a multi billionaire. at this point, if money was, was what was motivating. it's not what's motivating. what's motivating is fixing the fiscal balance sheet of the united states and using the hammer of the federal reserve to get it done. shameless plug for all my, all my work over the last few years. but it's the same thing with bobby kennedy and
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the state. and. and so again, again, i watched i looked at kennedy and he's like canada in the rock. right. but at the same time, he's also picking up and putting down, talking points that the the dnc has no answer to. i never actually put them in a really big bind when we start getting into the primary season with gavin bruce them, i guess this is not fine. then what are they going to do is come all the harris and how they got a spirit of habit existence and all of this up. when you was thinking about this this morning, i had to do apologize for my, for my new snacks. good right. before i came on this morning and i, i kept saying them, i did this over and over and i'm like, i have all these things that the democrats have to deal with, likes, they've got to get rid of bite and they've got to get rid of. they got a sideline harris, they've got to get past the g o, p t, a stablish that they've got all these different factors. and none of the results with bobby kennedy and the right and the race. it just doesn't the, everybody in states like once we get to the primary season,
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then what are they going to do just to break the boat? how, what did you know? what do you do? there's, this is a really interesting moment in time. and again, i'm not, i'm not on board with endorsing anybody get 2016 peter. like you was checked out like come on board and for trump and then he started like doing weird stuff like touching the 3rd rail of politics at the time, which was is real and going and just being trump, i'm like, this is great. i brought up uh like the guy that the 2nd cap, nato, and things like that. and now and now kennedy is doing that as well. so, i mean, this is all very, very important that he knows he don't want it. good. don't forget that you, you mentioned by the 3rd lawyer. i gotta say just a shameless plug in a month from yesterday i turned $65.00. yeah. so i'm walking around and i must lose a lot. i'm telling everybody. listen to me more of the things, i never forget it very quickly. they did
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a study between young people and old people and young people with really good at doing like you to walk them all mental stuff. very good. older folks were much better at telling the difference between this picture and that picture of what's different, what's missing, what's changed. and they attributed that to judgment. the ability to weigh 2 seemingly similar situations, but seeing the difference and being able to say this is different plus, we've been around where we've been through history. i remember, you know, you can say l b j nixon, water gate, vietnam. so this is kind of familiar and what i'm seeing right now, there was a paradigm shift. everything's changing, including the way the news is delivered, which in many respects is its own religion, is a fox news. and others is the control demolition interesting joys of words of what was a platform. it's done. it's finished. look what happened with signing our i keep bringing up tucker. i'm not the biggest fan, but that was a pivotal moment. people are looking for new sources. joe robin is the most
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important person in media today. joe rogan, not, not sean hannity. that's like real irving or amin is like, what are you talking about? bobby kennedy knows exactly what he's doing and there's something about him. and i'll tell you what i saw. you don't get a rustle, she says, well, i'm not in a tea bag. sure. i just wanted vaccines to be safe. anybody got a problem with that and people say, you know what? i just thought about that. right? that's why do you want your child to die in finland for what again? oh my god, i never thought about that. we are a group of, of, of the country of lemmings. we started flying, the ukrainian fly. i couldn't find that on a map. i'm calling in the ukraine like donald we, we didn't even know the landscape from a hole on the ground. and people have really thought about this nursing. wait a minute. and guess what? if he goes after a band and democrats gaze the gay, contented who was upset with his t part of it, they don't know what to do. black folks, asians,
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people who've been left left out of the equation. and here in new york where we are being, we're, if you could make it to the dentist, the funk of, of, of pot smoke. we're being deluged with this, with this wave of humanity. nobody can figure out who they are, why they're here, where they're going, or, or who is in charge. believe me now is the time at one last name. joe biden is as old as mick jagger. thank you very much. these a why we can say that was trending on twitter yesterday. when mr. bershard when, when turtle neck was, was i have just stroke on which was i hate to make fun of minutes, but then again he's so while i don't care, you know, aside, i couldn't tell. i mean, the people say, well, look at him, i said, but the domain is right and i got it right. this is a who is the, in your mind, who is the b r f k junior voter. and he's at this point, the person who understands that the,
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by the ministration has been an absolute mess in a way that is that they understand that this is not what happened. the trump, like this is, this is bad, like these people are insane and they've pushed us and they push the united states itself to kind of breaking up. and they don't want to vote for trumpet, because trump for years that so who is body kennedy's co work? everyone else? every normal person in america who is like something is not right is not right here . there's something rotten in the state of denmark, or in the case of washington, dc. the, it's the people who, you know, congress has what a 7 percent approval rating. the media has a 12 percent approval rating or whatever it is. it's don't mean everybody sees it. and we know that they know that we know that they know that we see it, it's all here, it's all serious in the past. and the question is going to be, are they going to allow us to have a voice or not?
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when they've already told us that we don't have a voice like it's yeah, it's, this is what this has been the last of the last 7 years. can they beat us down to the point where they say we don't have a voice? i don't, i don't but out of the house very often. guess i'm most days i'm barely fit for human consumption. but when i do go out, i go out in a hand with my, my, my millennial board in friends on wednesday nights and sometimes and sometimes and saturdays. and i talk to them. and i get this general fatal the state holiday that they have in a way that is actually splendidly different than even my generation. and the question now is whether or not they even care and with the will they say, you know, they will, they come out for, for anybody. i don't know. so the line, oh it is it's, it's a seems to, to me that there is a very strong awareness that something is very, very wrong. and here's that is the also been inside, or i mean, bobby, and say more political history than probably any person i'm alive on the planet. if
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you think about it, okay. and then it is very much like a trump the and pitch. i know the system cuz i was part of it. bobby has been able to play the same thing. he knows a lot about politics. you really have to it, but that's about it. they certainly knows a lot about when we think gibson is 6 skin. i mean, trunk gothic skin. bobby's got bigger. why don't we don't couple of things here are years ago. i, i mean that i'm like to politics per se. but i think one of the greatest politicians ever was reagan, he was about bad. he couldn't say to me that way. and he said, when you know, we loved him, nobody was a genius either he would ask or you better know or better off now than you were 4 years ago. i would change different. this would be bobby kennedy. do you one for more years or this? and that's it. if you one for you, one for more years of those got going to be my gosh. and trump is of the one time he said, gimme a jazz. how bad can i be? i love to have to lose. yes. yes,
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the i was going back to what you said the like you brought up a one last thing is like he, i know brought up the word authenticity right. or, or peter did earlier and some very important. back in 2016, i wrote one of my early as articles about the authenticity gap between clinton and trump. trump may be fake and boyish and all of this stuff, but at least, but he compared to quinn, who i mean, he might as well be the dalai lama life. you know, in that is it. and that's what's out there on the stage. trump one the auction, what he said, you should be in jail like it's, that's the alternate. somebody that i saw was that we, i just think you're going, i'd probably agree with even though we may not agree with politics. but bernie sanders is burned. he said, you're so you're not kidding. but i saw in brooklyn on a very cold afternoon, a bunch of young people crying. they loved him. and when he basically was housed, in fact, if he goes i'm, i will go to these young people and say, are you going to let them do that again to you? you're hose by your, by hillary clinton. now you can do one of 2 things because he does come across
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a number he's 70 years old and frankly, no i have, i had to jump in here way, but really bumping up against that time. let me in here. i want to take my guess in new york at north florida. i don't wanna think that'd be worse for watching us. here are the so you next time, remember prospect most the we have this to move on tenderness in the united states. we've exported it now to the world because of multi national corporations and we've been damaged to believe that babies needs be nurtured in care for and love. and, and so you've got a whole bunch of traumatized people all over the world. post traumatic stress
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disorder that don't know how to keel the the hi everybody. i'm rick sanchez. i've been doing news for 30 years now and 2 different languages all over the world here in the united states. i'm interviewed for us. presidents, i've worked at 4 of the largest television networks in the united states, and after all that, you know what i can say, i believe news should be honest, it should be direct and it should be impactful. this is direct impact. the so let me start with this recently we've been seeing ukrainian president watermark
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