subsided and so it has to have good relations and the russian foundation. and the 2nd level is when we talk about divisional issues, particularly issues like a finest on. we have intense dialogue and cooperation reduction foundation. and finally, the create an economy horse which for attention. so this is a very pragmatic and, and talks from choice we have made. and i can assure you in fact, this time, they may be different for different forces. but there is relations that shows one topic when that is across the board consensus on focus on the people on political forces. one would relation to the issue because it serves the national address. it says that she has an issue and interest, and it contributes to reasons stability. lasha is hosting is the largest weapon, the psych submission over the next week. and the last go region was tens of thousands of advanced weapons represented that were made in russia and fine as close to allies. many of the ons models have been possible tested in the ukraine.

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a try. me, thanks for your company here, and i'll see international with back in this. hopefully i was more the latest the, as it creates much more provide the color offensive stalls. western leaders have made a remarkable, rhetorical tippett binding says printing has already lost the board. the secretary of state lincoln says russia has lost their narrative, is a form of pseudo reality because making the claim ukraine is wendy. is untenable. the hello, i'm manila chad. you're tuned into modus operandi. cooling these air that could send shock waves across the region. the balance of power across the west,

africa up for grabs as a populist uprising, leaves the western back. eagle was at odds with one another. today we'll discuss the similar intentions that let up to this new situation in these air. all right, let's get into the m o the a top 10 for do sir of uranium 7th, to be exact. yet the democratically elected government overseeing a population who, according to the world bank, has a roughly 42 percent extreme poverty rate. that some 10000000 people in new share out of about 28000000, who go hungry regularly, who have no access to sanitation schools and so forth. this, after approximately 40 years, a french colonization through much of the 20th century, and currently serving as

a drone base for us out for com. now, with almost no results for an improvement in the standard of living, it would appear the military coup in new share is backed by popular civilian support. so joining us now to break down the history of new share and this region, and just how we got to this situation, that is coffee co, a cool coffee is an african affairs analyst. formerly of the world bank, he is now a senior fellow at the center for africa, china studies at the university of johannesburg. thank you so much for joining us. coffee. first, let's go back to late july. the new jerry and presidential guard lead by brigadier general. i do run on to shawnee and colonel major. i'm gonna do. i'm durham on letter cood over throw over throw a president mohammed presume 1st for the viewers walk us through that. cool. and

just who these military leaders are behind this. cool. well, i would say that context governs be, and this time, especially in the here, is always good to get a sense of history. but i want to border your audience with that long if you want context. but what is important is that in these years of country that seed so many courses, the 1st president of the jury sixties that lead the country where it is to be and by and large, strong man and strong military as rule of rule this year. and so what happened was, late july was the symptomatic nature of such a context. so when the coal need is to hold for it, now the main one of course, the general gen a, it was and he's still not that he's a president, but he was the head of the presidential court. and then of course,

coming excellent. these uh, east partners, and this is where the uh, they'll always be really uh, they're playing along with the president for many, many years. and i think by and large they haven't been happy with 2 things. i say they have enough themselves say, the 1st one is the sense that of the partnership and at least the offering. the elements of the president was depos, meant by su, didn't deal with 1st decisively against ours issue. the 2nd was that the some red t j was not really in the hands of jerry. and i must say is a slight difference between the share when jerry and i, jerry, we here and many people say niger, it's really not right because it doesn't make the difference with nigeria on hey jones. and this is what's happened. so these 2, no offices are now running the country. they are now still holding the president by

sue and keeping it with the hostage. now as you're just alluded to earlier and is there is no stranger to qu attempts they've had at least 6 crews since 1974. the most recent one before this was in 2021, but not have received the same media coverage as this latest cool. why do you suppose that is, was very, very important because the context within which we are to be, as a very powerful jewel, political. if you want to handle, and that's one of the reasons, and it does because external pounds, especially friends in the united states on board ship, because they're being there, they have huge interest. france used to be there for call it the colonizer yet many of us still believe that the judge still colonized by french france anyway, because they've been there for so long since the age of, of

a 100 years. and then french also use is a natural resources. are you sure? especially you ran your, your and, and you probably your, he's probably knows that the shares the 7th per view. so if you ran your work, i think the produce about 2000 times a year. and so, and rusher i think produces 2005 on this is big. so me just be one of those huge resource bearings and the resources of this uranium is being used by friends through power. it's as energy in france, of course. so. so it's industry, there's a provide electricity to a citizen. i mean, the power that goes to the eiffel tower is extraordinary. the coming from most of the saint nicholas central powers of friends, fuel by the germans uh, the uranium. what is also paradoxical inside is that, wow, you know france's power and use iphone 1000 cities with the sherry and energies you

. you're a new people in j available, kristen and this is a side part that which is really in the space of rent. now the 2nd part is america, america also has no steps, but before i go to america, it's also important to just signal that francis about a military base is truly over a year to control the resources, but also control the power engine. so become in the need for the united states. united states as may. yeah, it's very important basis officially to fight to or isn't and and executors of dr. terry's strategy to offer bases of drawing. but also more than $1100.00 troops. they have a huge bases, and of course, those bases really give strength to the governments. that's in power just being the

pose of the advisor. and that is exactly what is made the school as important, if not more important than the other ones in the beach. because of the presence of friends in, especially the united states. all right, so let's explore the french influence. bear on the anti french sentiment appears to be shared by neighboring countries as well, like burkina, faso and molly, who have since joined this quite new military coalition with new share. france is one of the largest purchasers of uranium from these year. but the military who has already announced that they would hold all sales to the french. so 1st, how is new sharon going to make up for the loss of sales of uranium to france and are there potential clients others who want to buy this? and secondly, who, how will france respond? i mean, is this move by new share enough to actually warrant an actual military intervention?

it is most likely, i mean, in new jersey, in the military is not as strong as france. so it is a very small military and he doesn't have all the strength, but what they have is the strength is now the new focus and then like that's on the gym, which means it's more of a moral ground standing in power than any military force. first of all, the jerry and will struggle with bid to get a bite. it's not easy. we know, for example, that south korea, as by some of the, the uranium that the russians, but also surprisingly interesting to chinese companies are involved in buying some of those uh, some of the brand new. so the other one is that the french still, it's going to be difficult for the gerry and government to really stop complete this sale because they just don't control the mind. that's one thing. so it is very

important to say that so french will be very unhappy to see that going, so they will react and they'll react very badly because they're not happy with the supply. it's uranium be cut off and then being used as a leverage to really threaten and those sort of react as a new, a colonial power to assert that. in fact, the united states is right behind france, because uranium is such an important material for nuclear energy that can also lead because it may have to use for civilian use for tricity and buying manufacturing plants and so forth, but also full bombs and atomic bombs. and that is a concern large, so you'll say 90 states in french, but most most important. and finally, there will be a reaction from french in the united states. and perhaps they may not be as visible, but they could be by process of funding rebels. so g at is sort of taxes. now,

as you already touched upon the, the west has this well known drone base that they rent out of new share. they have around $1100.00 us military troops there. they say to help combat terrorism inside the country. what has been the us view or response so far of this q? does the, the hunter in new jersey, or do they actually posed a threat to us or american interest in the region as well? the 1st thing we're hearing already, we know very quickly in early on, secretary density blinking is issue a very measured statement. first of all, congratulating the economic community a force african state with a strong stance against that in constitutional orders, in new jersey. this one came up very quickly so they need to do so yours is playing is softer, sort of behind the scenes role to try to find a peaceful solution,

but also attempting to call hers that you talk to release the prison by the by zoom. but also at the same time, tell them, look, you've got to get to act together because we're not quite happy with the kind of thing that you've done with the who did tops. i think that's one thing. but most importantly, what the us is also trying to do is a short, it's power softly and sort of having a, a to, you know, a stick carrot and stick approach to the, the hooked up. and if they don't play ball days more likely that the us mine and i sitting in my like proxy intervene military proxy contribute the probably gonna encourage a pause to find a way to intervene one way or another. however, the best case scenario is for the us and friends literally instead of engaging in military confrontation, which has been a us stable across the world,

is to have now considered a peaceful solution or dialogue with a job. but we're still waiting to see if that's going to be possible because the west is not as patient as other nations, like china or russia in terms of negotiation. and this has been a few people in the region. and of course, after all right, coming up next, why are so many civilians in the share way, leaving the russian flags. we'll discuss it when we return with coca cola tools to type the m. o will be right back the the, the, the,

[000:00:00;00] the welcome back to the m. o. i am a know a chance. you may have missed it. if you're watching the us main stream media. they deliberately cut out that crowd footage when showing you the civilians of new share outside of the presidential palace supporting the military junta, but spotted throughout those rallies russian flags. what's up with that?

that's with us to explain african affairs analyst cofi. cool. cool. uh, so coffee, since this cool, the main stream media has at times averted showing the presence of russian flags at the large rallies in support of the hunter. but in reality, the russian flag is being waved a lot there. and when they do show the flags, it's done cynically. what kind of support has russia actually provided to new share to warrant this kind of flag waving? i mean, is there any support or is the sort of an attempt to discredit the coo and their motives? i mean, it appears this is a, a populist cool. why are the caring russian flags? this is a, one of the most important fact i have written this small piece and the nature of this symbol of russian flux. and i forgot to do is sort of being used by many africans, reese. those was very unhappy with what's happening with the colonial mass, especially french

t. u is russian swag is what i was told spec to. but what is more important that we need to understand to be is that there is no and out raising the populations across this i have one now being conscious menus and learning awards and see what's happening around the world. so social media and in fact, the role of social media and the internet is really extraordinary, of profound awakening. but most of these people about their own flight. the only thing the mysteries like formal colonial powers, like france, is now pushed in on board and seeing what they've seen already in the central african republic. also in bowie, in book, you know, fossil be there now coming out in this burst of sort of protests. but also anger is also forcing the military to take advantage of it. and this is what we

now call a, at least many of us were analyzing sort of a militarily, a citizen revolt or susan revolt led by the military as a new dynamic that's now flushing out across the region. and let me come back to something that you've mentioned, the idea for a sort of anti french center. it's really not true if you look at it funny. well, you know, the french language culturally is dominant. it is use as an official language for many of these former uh french qualities for good was cynical ali anomaly is just this. i refused to using as a, a, an official language i think, you know, for us is also considered. right. so after kids, if there's not many other unhappy with the french government policies continues, oppression continues, exploitation continues use of french power to maintain africans in poverty, in quality. and then of course, having

a means of sale that continues to oppress applicants. and this is where we are. and so the economic community of west african states, this one being won by nigeria, they've threatened to militarily intervene into new share. some of those member states of equal watch. so they have joined into a sort of military alliance with new jersey co leaders. so could we actually witness a larger scale war in west africa or so how? because the equal was, doesn't seem really unified on the situation. yes, indeed, you so right. i mean the courses fragmented. many of the members are not in agreement. and there is a great deal of a now suspicion that vehicle was the just the color of france in the united states . forcing a sort of new mandatory was threatening to judge june to,

to really develop and then uh, you know, retail establish which. so if you want can since call constitutional order democratic institutional order. now the fragmentation of a cost is understandable because many of the african countries disagree with the economic sanctions. any of them wants to want, say, publicly by private. they're seeing that it costs as st, shouldn't be comic sanctions against molly. haven't worked in facts 2 weeks ago. they had to really cancel the speaking of it, sandra, and ask somebody to join back. natalie said no, we are just back. we think, well, yeah, we're fine. so the borders of malia opened now, but you know, fast so, so, so use the, the lessons learned from body to continuously push its own agenda out of liberation now and yeah, the judge size also went from if in fact,

a couple of days ago where the invoice update your cap from the shit was in raleigh, and they're not building a coalition. they may not be strong military, but i think they have moral support. that's a large group of african. seriously. i think that most of the major media in the woodson countries are not showing the uprising to take place. people are very weak, they're not happy. and in fact, that's one reason they keep showing russian flag because they think and believe that the only nation to be that can stand up to the, which is mainly russia, china, maybe economically. but it's very rare. it may not happen that china, china will sort of come military. we just support africans, only rush on like using perhaps that. and i think this is where it, of course is also seen as a weekly because they put west hasn't been able, beside what they've done and liberia. and then the sierra leone. they haven't been

able to do anything else. and of course, it just seen anything. i mean, the community, uh, organization or west african states. it's not the military organization. so be difficult to see how you know, that will be able to when the war against and you have that mean that is now supported by molly and cannot fossil getting. and now we also hear that julia is also playing a supportive role to the share in utah. now there are reports of algerian top officials flying in to moscow recently, and it looks like they could supply weapons to new share. do you have any insight on that? the, because remember, the russia, africa summits and the 20, i think 27th, 28th of july last month is a very important guthrie. in fact, the official nature of what happened. i also hides the new russian

engagement in africa and i think the russian wants to double if not triple the engagement. impressive questioning, because there is, if there's a few debt that's left by the western powers that russia might feel that also china and by feel. so the real guy, joe, in a jury is been a very, very large part of russia. not just on the diplomatic jo vertically, but also in terms of uh, military uh, partnership, but the sofa i to go, the orange will be very careful to provide military assistance. and yeah, because they don't want to have a war and the region, remember these j as a border, very long puerto rico julia and any war they will be disastrous for desire in the region. so everybody is looking at it, perhaps the best case scenario, which is finding piece. uh, but we know the piece is not easy to find specially where the united states is

behind. most of these things, always a very big concern to buy a worst case scenario. for a fight with many of us a whole so that will find in peaceful solutions the shape price. and what of the report? a pipeline project that would be running from nigeria into the mediterranean, that would go through new share. and algeria, what sort of economic impact might that have on the region? another pipeline that to be built between nigeria in morocco, this one is about oil and gas specifically. and, and the year end rock would be having these extraordinary relationship, which many of us we've been working diligently for or uncle and the other place, the staff or categories. it will be creating a great deal of trade between more operating jerry. but also the pipeline

between a algeria and the ship and julia or the ships, if it takes place that will be extraordinary because both countries also all the resources such as oil and gas, it also they have some will they have some random zeros that will they will help to good luck this region. in fact, one of the reasons this region as a really cool is that they've been, i'm good, the beloved over exploded and the poverty they're being manufactured by external hours. and that's why the reason people are now hopeful that the decline of french power was also they decline if not the small, they're much less a controlled thing i'd say from the west. and that region will help these regions really blossom much, much better than they had so much to unpack here, i wish we had more time. thank you so much. kofi, kofi clark, who is an african affairs analyst, formerly of the world bank. he is now a senior fellow at the center for africa,

china studies at the university of johannesburg. thank you so much, my friend. all right, that is going to do it for in this episode of modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host miller chan. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o. the as the cranes much over 5 to counter offensive stalls. western leaders have made a remarkable rhetorical tippett line and says,

proof of his already lost the board. the secretary of state blinking says russia has lost their narrative is a form of pseudo reality because making the claim ukraine is windy, is untenable. the headlines minus attains the trying to stop the latest burning of the crown. and sweden installed contrasts to the reaction of still kind most or t to allow to other activists to possibly be destroy the most going to need to do as co government says it's open to dialogue with that co authors that fix to come escalate contentions in the region to head from the head of a mediation group visited to me on this one, going to discuss them on the desktop hoops. yeah. so you said that those in the office when you go see you should