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simmering tensions that led up to this new situation in these air. all right, let's get into the m o the a top 10 for do sir of uranium 7th to be exact. yet the democratically elected government over seeing a population who, according to the world bank, has a roughly 42 percent extreme poverty rate. that some 10000000 people in new share out of about 28000000, who go hungry regularly, who have no access to sanitation schools and so forth. this after approximately 40 years, a french colonization through much of the 20th century and currently serving as a drone base for us out for com. now, with almost no results for an rosemont,

and the standard of living, it would appear the military coup and new share is backed by popular civilian support. so joining us now to break down the history of new share and this region, and just how we got to this situation is coffee cool. cool coffee is an african affairs analyst. formerly of the world bank. he is now a senior fellow at the center for africa, china studies at the university of johannesburg. thank you so much for joining us. coffee. first, let's go back to late july. the new jerry and presidential guard led by brigadier general. i do wrong on to shani and uh, colonel major, i'm gonna do, i'm the romano letter code over throw over, throw a president mohammed presume 1st for the viewers walk us through that. cool. and just who these military leaders are behind this. cool. well,

i always say that context coverage be and this time, especially in these year, is always good to get a sense of history. but i want to border your audience with that long if you want context. but what is important is that in these years of countries, i've seen so many groups since the 1st president and the jury sixties that lead the country where it is to be. and by and large, strong man and strong military. as rule of rule the, the ship and so what happens was late july was the symptomatic nature of, of such a projects. so when the coal leaders or took over it, now the main one of course, the general gen a was and he's still not that he's a president, but he was the head of the presidential court. and then of course, coming next surveys he's partner. and this is where the there will this be really

uh, the played along with the president for many, many years. and i think by and large they haven't been happy with 2 things as they have announced themselves. say the 1st one is the sense that of the partnership and not least the governing the elements of the president was the post. what i mean by so didn't deal with 1st decisively against areas in the 2nd was that some red t j was not really in the hands of jerry. and i must say there's a slight difference between the share on jerry and i, jerry, we here and many people are saying niger, it's really not right because it doesn't make the difference with nigeria or an hide jones. and this is what's have. and so these 2, no officers are now running the country. they're now still holding the president by sue and keeping in hostage. now,

as you're just alluded to earlier and is there is no stranger to coo attempts. they've had at least 6 crews since 1974. the most recent one before this was in 2021, but non have received the same media coverage as this latest cool. why do you suppose that is, was very, very important because the context within which we are to be as a very powerful jewel, political, if you want dental. and that's one of the reasons. and it does because external pounds specially friends in the united states on board ship because they're being there, they have huge interest. france used to be there for college, the colonizer yet, many of i still believe that the judge still colonized by french france anyway, because they've been there for so long since the name of a 100 years. and then french so. so use is a natural resources, are you sure?

especially you ran your, your and you probably your, he's probably knows that the shares the 7th per view. so if you're a new world, i think the produce about 2000 times. ready and so, and rush, i think produces 2005 on this is big. so the ship be one of those huge resource areas and the resources of this uranium is being used by friends through power. it's is energy in france of course. so. so it's industry, there is a provide electricity to citizen. i mean, the power that goes to the iphone towels is extraordinary. they're coming from most of the st liquids, central powers of friends, fuel by the germans, uh uranium. what is also paradoxical inside is that, well, you know, frances power and use i 4000 cities with the sherry and energy fuel. you're a new the people in j available, kristen and this is

a side part that which is really in the face of france. now the 2nd part is america, america. oh, so it was not established. but before i go to america, it's also important to just signal that frances about age military base is strong over the sheer to control the resources, but also control the origin. so become in the mean for the united states. united states as may. yeah, very important basis. officially to fight or is and, and a executors of counter terrorist strategy to off base the drone. but also in more than $1100.00 the troops, they have a huge bases. and of course, those bases really give strength to the government. that's and power outage has been the post of the advisor. and that is exactly what is made the school as

important. if not more important than the other ones in the beach because of the presence of friends in, especially the united states. all right, so let's explore the french influence there. on the anti french sentiment appears to be shared by neighboring countries as well, like burkina, faso and molly, who have since joined this cause i new military coalition with new share. france is one of the largest purchasers of uranium from the share. but the military who has already announced that they would hold all sales to the french. so 1st, how is news you are going to make up for the loss of sales of uranium to france, and are there potential clients others who want to buy this? and secondly, who, how will france respond? i mean, is this to move by new share enough to actually warrant an actual military intervention? it is most likely, i mean, in new jersey,

in the military is not as strong as friends. say it is a very small military, and it doesn't have all the strength, but what they have is strength is now the new focus and then the light that's on a chair, which means it's more of a moral ground standing in power than any military force. first of all, the jerry and little struggle with bid to get a bite. it's not easy. we know, for example, that south korea as by some of the, the uranium that the russians, but also surprisingly interesting to chinese companies are involved. they're buying some of is uh some of the brand new. so the other one is that the french still is going to be difficult for the gerry government to really stop completely this scale because they just don't control the box. that's what state. so it is very important to say that so the french will be very unhappy to see that going,

so they will react and they'll react 3 bathrooms because they're not happy with the supply. it's randy and be cut off. and then being used as a leverage to really threatening and that will sort of react as a new, a colonial power to assure that in fact, the united states is right behind france. because uranium is such an important material for nuclear energy that can also lead because it may have to use for civilian use for tricity and borrowing manufacturing plants and so forth, but also full bombs and atomic bombs. and that is a concern large, so you'll say 90 states in french, but most most important. and finally, there will be a reaction from french in the united states. and perhaps they may not be as visible, but they could be by prophecies of funding rebels. so g at is sort fact is and so as you already touched upon the, the west has this well known drone base that they rent out of new share. they have

around $1100.00 us military troops there. they say to help combat terrorism inside the country. what has been the us view or response so far of this q does be the hunter in new jersey, or do they actually posed a threat to us or american interest in the region? well, the 1st thing we're hearing already, we know very quickly in early on, secretary density blinking is issued a very measured statement. first of all, congratulating the economic community, of course african states with a strong stance against app and constitutional orders in new jersey. this one came up very quickly, so they need to do this. so yours is playing is softer, sort of behind the scenes roll to try to find a peaceful solution, but also attempting to call hers that utah to release prison by the by

zoom. but also at the same time, tell them, look, you've got to get to act together because we're not quite happy with that kind of thing that you've done with the who did talk. i think that's one thing. but most importantly, what the us is also trying to do is a short, it's power soft and sort of having a, a to, you know, a stick carrot and stick approach to the, the one side. and if they don't play ball days more likely that the us mine and i sitting in my by proxy intervene military approach. so you contribute the probably gonna encourage echo us to find a way to intervene one way or another. however, the best case scenario is for the us and friends literally instead of engaging in military confrontation, which has been a us stable across the world, is to have now consider peaceful solution or dial was a new job. but we still waiting to see if that's going to be possible because the

west is not as patient as other nations, like china or russia in terms of negotiation. and this has a few people in the region. and of course, after all right, coming up next. why are so many civilians in the share, waiving the russian flag, will discuss it when we return with coca cola who's to type the m. o will be right back. the, [000:00:00;00] the of

the 1934 prance invaded algeria and straight away the french started inhabiting it to strengthen their position. the column is known as the new wires to the best land. from day one, the local population was put into an unequal position and was briefly exploited. this caused them as discontent. the people of l g area began their long term fight for independence. in 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress, to rebuild you and using cruel measures. whole villages were wiped out acts of torture and executions of civil people, including pregnant women, children and old people took place more than 2000000 people were born into

concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help. cl, jerry and patriot managed to induce france to start seize negotiations in 1962 heavy and the cords were assigned 40 l. jerry on the bass warrants independence. but this was achieved at a colossal price. algeria by rights is considered to be a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the depths of one and a half 1000000 algerians. i feel this office felonies are still working through the journey of developing an identity, a national identity. there is, you know, we talked earlier about the vibrancy, the dynamics of the media will all sorts of use and narratives have a chance to, to face and come to the floor. also has

a downside in the. everything is up for debate. nothing is agreed on the the, the, the welcome back to the m. o. i am a know a chance. you may have missed it if you're watching the west main stream media.

they deliberately cut out that crowd footage when showing you the civilians of new share outside of the presidential palace supporting the military junta, but spotted throughout those rallies russian flags. what's up with that? that's with us to explain african affairs analyst cofi. cool. cool. uh, so coffee, since this cool, the main stream media has at times averted showing the presence of russian flags at the, the large rallies in support of the hunter. but in reality, the russian flag is being waved a lot there. and when they do show the flags, it's done cynically. what kind of support has russia actually provided to new share to warrant this kind of flag waving? i mean, is there any support or is this sort of an attempt to discredit the coo and their motives? i mean, it appears this is a, a populace to wire the caring russian flags. this is a, what are the most important fact?

i have written a small piece and the nature of the symbol of russian flux. and i forgot to do is sort of being used by many africans, at least those were very unhappy with what's happening with the colonial masters, especially french, to use russian flag is wherever go stick to, to, well, what is more important that we need to understand today is that there is no and out raising the populations across this. i have one now being conscious menus and learning awards and seeing what's happening around the world. so social media and in fact, the role of social media and the internet is video, extraordinary of profound awakening. but most of these people about their own plight, though, one thing though, and victories, like formal colonial powers, like france, is now pushed in on board and seeing what they've seen already in the central african republic. also in bowie,

and looking at fossil be there now coming out in this burst of sort of protests. but also anger is also forcing the military to take advantage of it. and this is what we now call a, at least many of us were analyzing sort of a militarily, a citizen revolt or susan revolt led by the military as a new dynamic that's now flushing out across the region. and let me come back to something that you mentioned, the idea for a sort of anti french sentence. it's really not true if you look at it pretty well . you know, the french language culturally is dominant. it is use as an official language for manual. these former uh french qualities from good deed was and he called ali anomaly is just as i refused to using as a, a, an official language. i think,

you know, flash is also considered right. so africans, if there's not many of the unhappy with the french government policies continue to use, oppression continues, exploitation continues use of french power to maintain africans in poverty, in quality. and then of course, having the means of sale that continues to impress africans. and this is where we are. and so the economic community of west african states, this one being won by nigeria, they've threatened to militarily intervene in to new share. some of those member states of eco wash. so they have joined into a sort of military alliance with new jersey co leaders. so could we actually witness a large scale war in west africa or so how? because the equal was, doesn't seem really unified on this situation. yes indeed you so right,

i mean equal wise is fragmented menu of the members are not in agreement. and there is a great deal of a now suspicion that people are stages of paul and france in the united states, forcing a sort of new mandatory or threatening the share of june to, to really develop and then uh, you know, retail establish what. so if you want to consider coal constitutional order, democratic institutional order, now the fragmentation of a cost is understandable because many of the african countries disagree with the economic sanctions. any of them wants to want, say publicly by private, they're seeing that it costs as uh, sanctioned. the comic sanctions against molly haven't worked in facts 2 weeks ago. they had to really cancel goods economic center and ask somebody to join back. natalie said no, we are just back. we think, well yeah, we're fine. so the borders of malia opened now, but you know, fast so so,

so use the, the lessons learned from body to continuously push its own agenda out of liberation . now the gen, the judge, utah's also went from inside a couple of days ago where the invoice update june tech from the shit was in raleigh. and they're not building a coalition. they may not be strong military, but i think they have the moral support of a large group of african seriously. i think that most of the major media in there with countries are not showing that uprising to take place before the very end weeks. they're not happy, and in fact, that's one reason they keep showing russian flag because they think and believe that the only nation to be that can stand up to the, which is mainly russia, china, maybe economically. but it's very rare. it may not happen that china,

china will sort of come militarily to support africans, only rush online using perhaps that. and i think this is where it cost is also seen as a weak link because they put west hasn't been able, beside what they've done in liberia. and then the sierra leone, they haven't been able to do anything else. and of course, it just seen anything. i mean, the community, uh, organization, or west african state. it's not a military organization. so be difficult to see how you know, they will be able to, uh, when the war against a new ship. definitely that is now supported by molly who can now fi. so you need. and now we also hear that julia is also playing a supporting role to the share in utah. now there are reports of algerian top officials flying in to moscow recently, and it looks like they could supply weapons to new share. do you have any insight

on that? the, because remember, the russia, africa summits and the 20, i think 27 to 28th of july last month is a very important guthrie. in fact, the official nature of what happened. i also hides the new russians engagement in africa, and i think the russian wants to double if not triple the engagement across the questioning. because there is, if there's a few debt that's left by the western powers that russia might feel that also china. and by feel, so the real guy, joe, in a jury is when it's a very large bracket of russia, not just on the diplomatic jo vertically, but also in terms of uh, military uh, partnership, but sofa i to go. the orange will be very careful to provide military assistance and yeah, because they don't want to have a war. and richard, remember these j as a border,

very long puerto rico jerry and any war they will be disastrous for the site or in region. so everybody is looking at a, perhaps a best case scenario, just finding peace. but we know that piece is not easy to find specially where the united states is behind. most of these things, always a very big concern to buy a worst case scenario for a fight with many of us a whole. so that will find a peaceful solution yet for us. and what of the report, a pipeline project that would be running from nigeria into the mediterranean, that would go through new share. and algeria, what sort of economic impact might that have on the region? another pipeline that to be built between nigeria in morocco, this one is about oil and gas, specifically and, and nick jr and brock would be having these extraordinary relationship which many

of us we've been working diligently for, or uncle and the other place, the staff or categories it will be creating a great deal of trade between more operating julia, but also that you pipeline between algeria and the ship and julia or the ships. if it takes place, there will be a trojan, or because both countries also all the resources, such as oil and gas, it also, they have some boiled, they have some rand minerals that will, they will help to good luck this region for one of the reasons this region as a really cool is that they've been developed over exploded and poverty. they're being manufactured by external hours. and that's why the reason people are now hopeful that the decline of french power was also the decline. it's not the small, they're much less a controlled thing i states in the west and that region will help these regions

really blossom much, much better than they had so much to unpack here, i wish we had more time. thank you so much. kofi, kofi clark, who is an african affairs analyst, formerly of the world bank. he is now a senior fellow at the center for africa, china studies at the university of johannesburg. thank you so much, my friend. all right, that is going to do it for this episode. of modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy and current affairs on your host window a chance. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o. the . to take a fresh look around as

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