or the the hey, i'm rick sanchez. i've been doing news for 30 years to languages all over the world . and here in the united states, interviewed poor president's working for the us as major television networks and been fired by a bunch. i believe there should be honest and direct and impactful and this is direct impact. the so brazilian president luis ignacio little of the silver. suddenly all over the news, his anger made headlines when he criticized ukrainian president. but a lot of major zalinski for not bothering to show up for a meeting with him. well, as he's come to be known, says he waited and waited and waited. and the lens believe the zalinski simply just

never showed up. it is my tribal measure, their goal is really ask, asking you can ask the going on here for them who has tried to use a list of a thought that you i think it will push it then to move it. you know, the model was why did what did they made to appear to know if it's a back was their lives can oh very this is not a good look for mr. soleski. who seems to represent what has become the western mentality really of treating latin american and latin america itself like an inferior step child, for example. so lensky has seemed ready and willing at all times to meet with any of the western leaders, especially the ones who come with money and are weapons a but what a prominent latin american leader

a latino wants to meet with him to discuss a police proposal. she doesn't show up why that took place by the way or didn't really, i guess at the g 7 summit in japan. but since then, lola has been on a rampage with all kinds of stuff. he's pushing for a new water in latin america, or as he puts it, reaching out to those. the west can't stand about that. he's reaching out to those. the west can't stand his words and he's doing so by criticizing the supremacy of the us dollar. i mean, out, in public traveling to china to meet with using think, hosting rushes for administer, but it's what lula is doing to unite latin america that has part of the world impressed that another part of the world perturbed. for starters, little wants to push out the us dollar by creating that latin american currency. he

made the recommendations after inviting the regents presidents to meet in brazil for the 1st regional summit in 9 years. the question is can latin america started? so kind of you might, can find its identity. alas, after historic waves in the past, i'm swinging to the right and then swinging to the left and now apparently moving back more towards the kind of the left. by the way, in that vein, the brazilian summit began with controversy when little embrace left us was that as well. and president nicholas my door and that caused several leaders including world wise, more right of center president louise like i a pile and she lives left of center president gabrielle boric, to criticize the embrace and to criticize my dural direct. no. to that, like giving this level the, the ticket name is due and if the buses is the problem, i will go on the glass units and the for them and then they'll have to come on who

are on hold. if so, seen him by the way, seeing if you got the phone, but it was the defense that they might give them a photo. somebody see between put them there, you money for food. but if it also meant that the new movie could both have a look at another, present the yeah. so yes, there is once again, a move toward the ideological left enlighten america. but the feet of the government in bolivia, the election of shamar, castro in the home. there was the rise of under a spot to a lopez over at the order in mexico, the historic collection of gustavo pet, throw in columbia, now the return of lima in brazil. suggest a new pink tide is donny. but is this really about audiology? is it really about ideology, or is there more to this than that? because that's what you're going to reading all out of the newspaper headlines. here's the point. here's the point. latin america seems to be more about unity and

integration these days than it is about who's the left the and who's the rice. but they seem to be more interested in is moving away. busy from a dependency on the united states. why as well because 200 years of monroe doctrine has gotten them very little in return and it may be time to look elsewhere . and that is why this new integration or this move toward unity in cooperation. latin america is different from the former o. s a model, or even the more recent soon i sure models one from the right one from the left. why? because it may be less about left and right. maybe shouldn't be less about left and right and more about what's practical. in other words, what lula, another lot of american leaders seem to be looking for our alliances and not just any alliances, what they want our relationships based on, based on mutual respect, relationships with all countries, including the big ones, russia, china, the us,

iran, spain, india, among others, here's a problem for some of those countries, like elephants, many in latin america, never forget, you know, what they say about relevance, never forgetting, right? they're not going to forget their spanish routes, which is tied to their language in the music and the culture in general mind. however, it's also tied to the slaughter and abuse and that's indigenous population. not to mention the average young latino american is much more at these days to listen to her. i get tone and hang out in a multi cultural or multi racial setting. then identify with a country that is still represented by my my best. i mean, look at this picture. do you think this is a back? is what i read. identify with queen latisha spain, $47.00 looking regal, and a recycled down by caroline the herrera for galler portraits with king philippe taking it to such swell palace in madrid as the royal family released as their new

official portraits. that's not exactly a good match. latin american millennials? i don't exactly look at that and say i yes, that's me. and then there's the u. s. you know, it's hard for latino americans to forget the and the incident with the c. i a removed the president. they simply didn't like more than 100000 who died in guatemala, simply because the president there suggested land reforms, or what the us did in columbia or argentina, or the assassination attempts in cuba. or even more recently, the crews are cool attempts and men as well and bolivia in ecuador. so maybe for latin american leaders, it's not about being scared of this, this elastic, or that it cheese stuff, or writing. it's more about being practical. it's more about the surname when it comes to choosing with whom to partner. and then there's the countries that they may have traditionally, not known,

maybe even feared or just been on familiar with countries like russia, china, india, and others who are now engaging in latin america and say, well at least in some measure, some measure to me making positive impressions and joining us now to talk about this is that one company, you know, he's a ecuador and journalist who is really coverage stories all over the world buddies and particularly keen on latin america. let me start by asking for this as the one . what do you think of this interview with this meeting that luna was supposed to recently have with mr. zalinski of ukraine and mr. salt lake and skied never even showed up. it just didn't show up. what does that say, what does it tell you as well, it says to me that uh that uh they understand the west, the landscape particular he understands that she's not going to get much from luna who are not currently standing and he's leading the way you know way to,

to these new multi paul, our world that we are witnessing a farm in front of our very eyes. so of course, polanski would have found him off, of course, and then we played out a cart, you know, a why, why talk to him? why do you see the point anymore? they've trifocal, there's nothing america says i, i think of it. i see it a little differently than you do. and maybe i'm wrong and you're correct. but maybe it's because i'm very sensitive because i am a latino american. right. and i've grown up in a world that always has seen me and the confidence that i come from as an inferior step child. we just don't matter to most of these big countries along the west. and i think the landscape feels like he's not, you know, latin america is not worthy for him. i mean, he's getting is, but just by great britain, the united states, every country in the world is coming to pay him homage. why would he meet with a latin american country? that's what i think. maybe i'm wrong. i see you're fine. i see you're fine. and it

did was a few years ago, i would, i would completely agree with you. but now i feel things have changed and i feel because um, you know, your credit, the situation with the, with the web funds over there, we'd like to know that there was basically depleting their arsenals just uh, just so that of your credit has come, uh, keep up the 5 is that just, you know, it shows you that, um, that is not going the way they want it to go. they need the help of the other countries. they need the help of the global south, but they, they're not getting it anymore. they're not getting it or they walked it. well, the only reason i mentioned that is not so much to talk about ukraine, but i, i'm, i'm particularly interested in how latin america research itself, because i feel like latin america's trying to reassert itself right now. find its identity, us, and what is, is it what it is? it's identity because it seems like we've been playing this game for 2 decades in latin america. where's latin? america's to the left. latin americans to the right? latin americans to a left and after

a while it just seems stupid. it's like the only thing that anybody ever talks about. the only story that comes out a lot of americans always is it to the left or is it to the right? let me check. you know what i mean? yeah. i understand completely where you're coming from, you know, and i think that is a w, but the people who pay attention, you know, i think if you ask and one of the us, what is nothing america, i knew suddenly, bass was going to be, ease are back there is a place that's also what we tell them to do, and that has been the history of loving america for too long. and now we're seeing . gotcha is we're seeing how tensioned. uh and uh, and it is other time. and with the less these are coming to power it, i'll always, i think it goes beyond that. i both agree with you. i do think it goes beyond just, you know, i left them right. i think these are the question of north and south. well, that's interesting. because what, what i believe is happening is that it has for tell me if i'm wrong, but for latin america to find itself,

it has to worry less about its political ideology and more about the relationships that it's forges. the relationships that it forges because it seems to me that for the past 200 years, it really has only had 2 fundamental relationships, spain and the united states. that's a true, true enough about what we're seeing china, you know, china happy thoughts, a strong presence. and maybe a few years ago and had a stronger presence as he does now. in actuality, both china has been expanding everywhere. and again, go back to noon to go back to what i see. and we're seeing it with briggs, with breaks. we're seeing it with the new development that we're seeing these alliance is, uh, not so much for him as consolidate as, as gain weight. and you know, nothing. america is a huge part of that as, as last month of the south thumb commander is he was saying that she was managing how much you know, on do a place for me or are there, sorry there using nothing america. you particularly wants to call the lithium

triangle, you know, a which is uh tv i believe. yeah. and i believe i could be an hour about a wire. i made a mistake, but this is just say they do not reset it. all right. we don't know what are others, ours are doing here and this is such an important reason because they called 60 percent of the words made. you saw scars, you know, they kind of loose and they kind of loose like reaping these reason. but they are, because this is what is happening across the world is not just nothing america you're seeing, it is se asia we're seeing across the our of world. we're seeing it in uh, in the nation general is just, it's on. so how about, yeah, well, you know what, let, let's do this. i want to, i want to take a break and i want to come back and i want to ask you a little bit about something that is guttural. something that's in the so a lot in americans, and many of us grew up with that word. can we stop and, you know, i'm thinking of a young young the style. yeah. whatever, you know, and there's these, there's these big mazda we still have in our mind that we have to get over. because

even though we hate what the united states has done in our hemisphere in our continents, we also still look at the united states like the ones that are different then supposed to be more career. 3 act and when we see china and russia, we still in our minds, look back to what they used to be and what's in our head can be overcome that in china and russia over come that are getting the people american grown up. now they don't even care anymore, they just want somebody who's going to do a big deal for. we're going to talk about this when we come back with a step one kind of the echo door in general. the

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the bell in our in case you visited file. we couldn't help, but notice that not too long ago ukraine sent a new ambassador to present the 1st the follow up. as we have reported here previously, presidents a landscape failed to show up for a meeting with brazil's president little and so as we mentioned earlier and seem to be just interested in hearing his piece plan ideas lot, as we mentioned, did not take the sitting down and he lashed out of the landscape for this an upright. well, recently soleski had to name a new and basset or to result get to a bit. it's, it's kind of interesting. so, he chose a, a dude named andrey melnik. andrey melnik,

who used to be ukraine's envoy to germany. why is his appointment not where the you ask? well, because during his time in berlin, melnick hurled some angry tirades and customers job. in may of 2022. he labeled german chancellor all off uh shoals on a bended liver sausage for not visiting t of and then he went on a twitter and told the law must to pass off for suggesting a peace plan with russia doesn't sound so diplomatic about that. anyway, this is going to be an interesting, perry. don't you think? lula melnick? now let's get back to our and so we're back with the stairwell and got a video to talk about this and, and by the way, um, we apologize for the connection with this dave on, it's a little fuzzy. he's coming to us today cuz he's in 11 on and not exactly the best

technical setup there, but it's more important to be able to understand what you have to say because you are such an experienced journalist and you know a lot about this particular topic. so let's go back to that real quick as i've been thinking of, i'm a latino american and i think there may be a lot of people like me out there that when they think of russia and china, the 1st thing they think about is, you know, going east and they were told that if you're a part of that system or rush or they don't believe in don, and they'll take your children away. you know, all those missed that are out there. how. how much will that interfere in latin america's relationship to forge these relationships with countries like china and russia and iran in india and whoever but seems maybe a little more foreign to them if they have a uh, yes, uh, well, i guess i think uh, well 1st to ask you a question, you know, like i think we need to, to, to highlight that. uh, i don't think uh, china can truly because either a communist state and it has this capital leasing we time. these characteristics are the same as rush i rush. i was the pharmacy from companies and you know,

this is, this is from uh how long ago this is to like, you know, more about a century ago. this is uh, this, your mom very has been ongoing. and i, but i think that uh saw me and nothing america were still at people that are very and misled by our media, by or off all the pieces, you know, and there is a narrative that exceeds you. 9, of course, like like you said before the break, the united states has all over the know region always been, you know that the place that you need to be the place, you know, that you need to be call as well. you know about may have, is married to may or may not. but i think this is the following. do you know because he becomes, is i like i'm on the list. think our way of thinking and you don't see anything else. you just see the one thing that has to be just shut down your throat every single day and now to, to bring and china to bring in russia. i think it's, uh, i think it's gonna be less difficult, especially now in, in, in our modern era. you know, where we live, where everybody has netflix, where everybody has. uh, so uh, take talk, you know, uh like, uh,

we are more connected on that or, and that means most of so that you guys at least to the east as well, you know, and uh, in, you know, and like we see china going into media. so far now the same is happening everywhere . yeah. but you know, we don't take this the wrong way, but you're an intellectual, so you're very caught up. i wasn't talking about reality. i was talking about perception and i get your point. and by the way, i think, and, and, and i made note of this in my intro. i think there's a huge movement in latin america line, america's being led by a very young, very young population. unlike by the way, the united states in china and russia. and, and those folks have less and then i would believe you tell me, because you're the expert, i would leave the young latin americans have less of a tendency to think that way to have old thoughts. so for example, when they see spain, they probably laugh at these pictures of this king and his queen with their royalty

and their crowns and all these crap, it's like who the hell are you right. there's a disconnect between young latinos today and both the united states. and spain, for example, or any of those european countries. yeah, i think so. i agree with you completely and where there's a completely new generation. this is the globalizing, the race. and this is, uh, we don't know what's going to happen. it's very difficult to, to predict that, but the only thing i will predict is that uh, we're no longer gonna leave under a single system in the single day that us system and yes, like of our young people, when people are ready to accept, they may be more welcoming of all of these and also a, you cannot forget a nothing america. the, the goal is not just to be, you know, like, uh, be able to be friends with ross or be able to be friends with china is to be call ourselves into an on, on you know, what, you cannot make it energy, productive power. you know, a like of a you, why they, they, you was farm. why kind of reform or underlines like that we,

we have so many resources just to go back to the lithium that i was talking about. tell me why new law is or is not the right person to help forge the new identity of latin america, i think is uh, what are people are they supposed to be? he's a mom that he can see it at a table with anyone to discuss anything. he has shown it before. he is i'm on the flies has gone to jail for his belief. he's that mind that uh, with the most recently, you know, he's most is uh uh, his wife in jail. he like, he may have so many of us for the past year. so he still came back. it still came back to powers about him and the 1st thing he did, he says my series back, but i seen his back and we are going to take our spot because we are, we are the biggest economy and nothing america. and we are, you know, part of briggs and we are going to develop a new car as it is, is that the from new law and you know, when you, you asked me at the beginning why that is. the last case said with he thinks about

the 6 of us or less, you know, what type of man he's that's the only was that company and he doesn't want to have a conversation. you know. so of course i think in my in my own personal belief, i think luna is a perfect person to boost this forward. because even though the only other staff they necessity, he understands how the process needs to be conducted. and he has a goal, and he's goal is for south america to be a capable of, of conducting deals in a common courtesy to be capable, to not be subservient to anyone, not even brush. i'm not even china. we welcome that we will welcome them. but that doesn't mean that we're going about, we're not going to valid onto, then we're going to work. we're going to have a respectful relationship, but that has to be and that's why i think no is the perfect person to do this because he's the, he's showing and he's shown it before. and he's gone a couple of the far as long as he lives. he's going to continue to show a visa drive for chase, for change the benefits, every one,

most of the people that believe what he believes are not just the people that you know, this is in a circle. do you think the problem in the past was that latin americans who tried to read that new way that new identity as we were calling it were always either scape goaded as a lefty or a righty, or 2 tied to one side or the other, or maybe i should ask you the question this way, what get, what is lula doing now? that wasn't done in the past. what, why didn't somebody come along 10 years ago and do and say the things that lula is now saying and doing, or did a. and we just missed, i think we're, we're doing it. i think the, i'm sorry they were going to be not like when they're, when, when i sort of west farm i think uh on the challenges we saw a lot of changes like these and nothing america. and they weren't follow through the for many reasons. you know, this is not just the fault of all of you know, of

a single label entity. this is uh, this is uh, you know, mistakes that were made along the way. and now they said these programs were a bond with another being um, you know, trying to be uh, reformed revive. but the difference now what the real difference now is, and i need to go back to the breaks, is the size of the economy of these countries. you know, like uh, i was seeing a report recently that shows the brakes. uh, their g d p is, is larger than the 7, you know, they decided that it being held for so long as, as these like, you know, like this close exclusive cloth. this group of $5.00 submission is not have a bigger judy peterson. what do you think, and i don't mean to interrupt you, but this thought came to my head and i just have to say it because you just did a comparison between lula and the other to learn american liter from the past that you mentioned, i think were chavez and it came to mind that since chavez is kind of a take off on fidel castro. so in the past you had fidel castro and low chavez as the defacto leaders of the identity of latin america. and i think,

and i'll just talk to you as an american latino, and i know that makes you and i different both of them had serious credibility problems almost because they were too far to one side. is lula not also faced with that same problem? is he not too far? what makes little difference? well, i think the light is different. i think the stands on a different platform. he has the same, the lazy stuff for the same uh, the same believes that see then and as a stop as a lie, even from his 1st there. i mean office. he was never, he never consolidated power out of himself. he always had, you know, a poor old government. he tried to work with everyone, you know, sometimes i work since he's on the true man, but you did it. and now we're seeing it the same. like i said, uh roughly is not a company's gone for chinese, gotta come in the country. this is not about political ideology anymore. this is about working together. this is of respect a most already nation,

that that's something the postal parts. and just try to see the 2 and then the 2, they express that in different ways they, they built their see sense of different ways, but it will not be not and do not i not even think it's possible. i think 1st of all, because i feel there is also a very, very, very, very strong i'd like for me to send through methods you saw when they, when that was a very striking take over the, the 1st one will try. they did take all the, you know, so we saw, i know this is a country that this is going to happen. easy to, you know, this is, uh, so i was, i think that's what makes sense that different a particular luda well said by friend, if that one got a video, ecuador in journal is delightful conversation about the future of one of the most important regions in the world it's never ever really been treated, but nonetheless, thank you again. what's your address? thank you eric. nice to be. see. before we go, i want to remind you of our mission. it's simple. really decided to the world

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