to or the good to level so we succeed. hey, you know, ask is that trade within the, the, the breaks group is growing falls to the next trade with his traditional partners. does this illustrate a rising level of independence from the traditional western powers with in europe it if it came particular, one thing that i should know is that the credit for all these see is smoking in the field of africa and as low to be in general. commitment in helping africa to develop and add value to, to, to, to its products. so i think that as being largely sending out role materials and, and, and, and so getting less value for, for our products, for our resources, for our meeting rooms and, and, and,

and because of that we have really struggles to, to, to will economies of getting to what we've quoted me, the info, pardon me, so i'm actually probably proposed beyond that. so the discussion now within a couple of those within the continent is that africa should begin to add value to it. so we know street, so resources and putting as that as it would relate we've a need in this case when you look at the brakes to us, we believe that is genuine commitment. even a trying to help i forgot to achieve these important agenda. so we industrialization to use these

keys for us. we want to be invited to the table and, and, and be able to, uh, to design deals that to uh, uh, see funding that investment. you know, countries. uh, but that to not focus on taking uh our role materials as it does have been over the years. so i think the trade that we business trade investment plays them will only be beneficial to last week. that if we still expectation overall about this and be able to add value. so we need a number one, know they transfer technology a transfer of human capital development infrastructure

development. and for, for most of as agriculture. again is the backbone. but most of these are good guys are products of being exported general from them. and so that was left left for us and we think it needs that. we need to be designed that if we must benefit from the trade traditionally, africa is a constant, has been heavily exploited. do you see this as a turning point for the confidence if countries in africa comes together under the brakes and further that african countries will be put in the driver's seat when it comes to it's it's rich minerals. yeah. again, coming from the context of trade, that was the market is that important and element in,

in talking about trade. so why we want to push for home on, wasn't sure or agenda for africa, because when you look up africa as a blog, as a market. and and so we come today the little table with the, the breaks, but the nice booking the post the short of africa. as a bro, you to set the nipples to make it to going to make sense, to have a bunch of nice within the, within the breaks. but also then gives africa a loud uh, voice in the entering deals. organizations that what for us that make a difference, whereas left to empower africa. so again, takes us back to what we have, things shed values,

commitment to accelerate growth and development. so. so secondly, my president has been very, very found on the issue of africa. talk be next door to the expectation of role models to the west. okay. now that uh uh, level entity. because that does not work for us. this is what a lot of buzz about and talk about a potential brakes car and see a gold backed brakes car and see what are the thoughts on that. we have seen that there has been economic black for me uh on many of the african countries. uh, with other considerations. uh, advanced de decide design takes of africa recently you do so the

position of a while back regarding a democratic process. but our country a legislative based on the true feelings and the expiration of the people regarding our style. a lot on targeting people us all day. but people come to promote that. i needed to make that distinction by merely being gay to below. doesn't talk about that q will affect you. but when you get a and then you come to promote the oil, you the fire as a vendor low. we'll catch up with you. so based on that, uh uh, we have been slicked in with

a so many menacing some of it, but i couldn't make sabotage. and so we couldn't believe, but when that was done that is that to the existing systems then and these alternatives from where to go build with consolidations with the shared values. uh, it would mean that i think that all the countries within the global south were not need to sell the values for money. and so i, so i think we can let the following the discussions around them. i guess of the brakes. got it and see. and i think it will not be that

auto replacement. yeah. because again, when you talk about the multilateral student, it has many pay us, but i would imagine so if it breaks got it and say, well, definitely uh, we ship of the order and an engagement that will take place, especially in this case, there is a ship that africa we have, we have and break spinal quote, breaks the financial institution. so we think it's a good idea and should be supported, shouldn't be given to use it to, to, to, to, to doing the table and to see what the task of the world bank recently, cussing old financial aid to you. kind of what it's called. it's empty, l g, b, t,

and those do you feel that may be a close, a move towards breaks? would mean that's western about institutions like the world bank who no longer be able to use financial leverage to perhaps try and force countries like you're going to change it. stones on things like l g b, t issues. sure, i, i think, but the one we continuing to been engaged really the while back and as a member country for, for, for them to understand our values in what we spend for another commitment of or so we think that a blocked me. oh oh. holding asked at, i'm so is is not. is there a different way of dealing with the domain there? so i think you've done this just like many of the countries with the new global. so

have a mental vision's found themselves. push to the wall. we've been to many coordination entities that that, that, that put forth as a separate site for menissi team to continue to project. i was going to make a development agenda. so imagine yourself, a great, a brick span would school. then they quoted me that logical they'll put into cost so that the institutions will begin to the, the global financial institutions will begin to be more sensitive in relating with, with members and making the so especially going to make decisions. because that shouldn't be a global commitment to, to growth the development of

a very member step within the global community. and so we, we think you could have had many other voices or so with the notification. but this discussion on why this country, what country a country be continuous to, to save to it's in the email that got it and say it is still far away from the supporters. and so it is a deep discussion. and i hope that within the dialogue that to happen here joins, but over the next few days, we'll get to see more clarity and for the future. so that we can and research something that probably will

a lead wage on the, on the, on the difficult a solution that the minute african countries i've had. and so there's a lot of bozza around to the dollar rise ation disposable it at the moment. do you think it's a realistic possibility in the coming in the near coming years? so oh, do you think it's a far off concept at this point? well, i have a listen to many experts. i couldn't make experts in it, got it and see that domain and to do was should be bye, bye, bye gold. gold drives that and some of the currencies that we see today of come on the, on the list you, which is with a truly they have a, an appropriate to go with them. but,

but it takes my belief that sticks to why it full and you or that too much. and the main events and minutes i promised is that ship that is, these are that event. but when you, when you listen to the different voices, the discussions and, and, and, and sutton movements within the continent and living the multilateral set up, it is within 2 hours it is feasible to see a reduction in the usage of both. and the zip code on the national coast, i don't do well and, and, and again the, there will be minutes knocked us. some of them might to be done,

but others will be shipped by what members of the global community different countries will see as being a that's so presenting the economic interests and she had the prosperity because got the one sided. so, so, so it would be multifaceted, i think, but in my humble view, uh, there is already there's already an active engagement, even in looking for alternatives. but also the new class that we end at this stage. we've, we've, we've new systems with new policies and, and, and,

and so it would depend on how now speaking for africa blue i see that i think is going to be the next uh, continent. that is, is that the appeal of greatly impact on what happens around with that. and so the direction that i fit that tech's uh we're beginning to see that as stark sentiments. the defense only gets stronger. and for 2 years down the road, nobody would be surprised to see that for they have definitely upstage the spotlights. let you size so clearly on us, because there is a constant light night china, the us, russia trying to woo a several countries across africa. do you think when it comes to making

a decision on which countries us can countries want to cooperate with? do you think to be frank, know that they want to turn away from a former colonial powers and supports new partners because history always plays a part in decisions made ultimately or is it just about choosing about partner with the best deal? i think, i believe it is a 2 way the one a to approach it from there that they cannot make perspective. you talked about it if say you've done that has the image. like now we have, we have developing the assignment to say that i said bank of a project that we will put up. we're also looking working on equal the positive going pipeline. i speak to them through that then. yeah,

one of the loan is about 1400 kilometers. so the uganda will be searching for, for factors that will offer as the best deal. what works for us and um, already if you paid in addition to that as being a thoughts in other portez to frustrate, to the bend as default to, to develop is laziness or they, they, this being the talk on a lead. never knew of way. imagine the transfusion but you know, within the continent the question of in that you pull that which is which, which we did was dealing with the in, in some areas be pushed to rely on, filed as a, as, as the major source of energy for, for, for for cooking and all of that. and, and, and so, so far,

so image and all of these, there's a lot of double talk around it by some of our friends. and so, so, so we begin suspects with that these truly commitments to a pushing for what benefits us uh, frequently. so i think from the side of the clinics and in the resilient country, we're wanting to get a do a project that works best for us. so because of that, then we able to, to narrow on what to deal with. yeah. but that has also been some overlaps on, on a number of good things if what's to increased to undermine the national civil entity. and,

and you've also had that a few guys pushed on for us at the end reforms even within the us itself. uh so, so i think without them being purely funded mcquease owns the other considerations that bought that on on as of in t as, as, as a safety as a continent and, and, and so i, lance is, uh, building of new partnerships who much influence but i also see my cost of the considerations down there is improving its ties with russia continuing to improve this ties. and new agreements have just been finding nuclear and fertilizer says what other areas do you think can be developed to know how does that you're going to view?

it's rushing palm. that's the presence of our it of it. that's it. it gets quite a few that the rush of the business and which also attached to the issue of the mind you mentally and issues a is a key at the guest. yeah. but we, we value a friendship and relationship really with russia and we should receive as she has been committed 1st and of that within the next framework to engender issues. i'll see you then the other way this weekend and so with, with that understanding we, we, we have, we have feeling comfortable and happy about the, the, the initial issue and, and again, you've done that as come up with the, the, the, that we have we,

we want to develop a new care a best it for me this in of, uh for, for, for maybe see the full image and then we have to add a rush. it would be if it keep putting her in supporting as to what she's uh but the project if so, so so, so that is very, very, very key. i'm undecided. so i just said that before for you, we're, we're looking at, but also right now we, we, we are looking at infrastructure development. we're looking at industrialization. and with that number of projects within our

health system. uh we, we are moving, we are fighting to move out before away from subsistence it quarterly because my just to have people have been engaging in the coordinate activity is 445. i went and looked for the market. yes. and, and so uh the russian was, i really believe he's interested in working with us on, on that the journey is not that event. but we, we have very lovely plans in ensuring that if we can bring a manual 5 people pollution into the money economy to more productive activities, how much commercialize advertises you and make

a nice culture. so we need combust it to be able to, to achieve that. and i think last year easy is a coupon to now and the way the platform of, of the brakes were we also helped in assuming that about the agenda that the rise of countries like china, india, africa, and of course, is this briggs and so much as well, with so many people wanting to joined so many countries wanting to be a part of it, it seems like the multi polar wealth is another thing. it can be denied and the union kind of, well, it is something that the pause, what do you expect from a multi pilot? well, well is, is complex and uh, uh, go blank for the computer. uh and uh, sometimes it does both positives and negatives.

but we, we believe that every country has a child is too much become the global to and then to reduce the, the domain names. but either one particular country or one block, one little group of people of hot by that is available, right? we don't want to be like saying we want to give up on relationships and sometimes even when you have a new friends there's, we want to close the by the effect. but ultimately, the most pull that was is it gives us the

freedom to, to relate and to, to build a new one up at the ships that probably will solve problems that i've stayed link. i don't for, for a long time without a solution with insight. yeah. so, so i think there is a, there's going to be a lot of pull out of push the, in the say new while out of that that, that is imagine. but it's, you know, i'm kind of stop it. yeah. so the most important thing is that everyone really aligns the expectations and begin to welcome this new market for that much bought

a while and and, and, and, and also accept that countries. so i think that will be fee or to choose uh its friends or what the system works for them without, without uh, without coming in you, you, you pulled of realize the, there's been efforts to, to target the african countries because of the, you know, that you've done that is now the that you is going to assume that you see both in that of the non line line movement and, and because of that, we have been voting and set in ways of the un

and, and also projected a positions that do not necessarily represent what others would tell us to do and, and as the incoming share of now it's is, is important that we really are able to stand for the values of now. but also some children, the interests, the interest of the global. so the, the, the, the, the developing, the developing work so, so i think, oh, i see that i think that with the, the end up being very active. this is going to become more

voters, law decisive. we really feel to define a that was sort of the game what, what, what for us on what that look like for us? and we think that if that can be respected by or then what would be a better place for all of us? it's a great night to financial and thank you so much for your time and speaking to us, we really, really appreciate it. thank you. thank you. the the, the

most reason is munoz carlos. imagine if you speak russian, keep your voice down while house in about. so we talked about the kinds of products perspective, so don't put your human symbols on display, the decision space to guide. so you guys don't talk to strangers. 7 void, noisy gatherings in valleys, which was wonderful to me know what she rely on, get them in and what actually these new colleagues and perhaps also your friends think you're guilty because your russian let you know the phone. so what can i do? i'm the was mindset from it, so i'd be glad to which is the team that does the styles. is the duty of buying it. so the exception to buy the specific store shortly

concerning the the about pick us up quotes. the expansion of the membership will fix the very or briggs extends beyond. the interest of its cut into members of africa endorses new members in the bridge communities trusting the need for expansion, adding up in the last important exceeds the current borders. lift us to one day to go until the much anticipated for its summit. more countries are seeking economic multi polarity hoping to get away from of esther flying into the system. with the former, i am the executive director at the same confidence in the us dollar is following us has been using the dollars as a weapon to.