[000:00:00;00] the the hello and welcome to cross stock where of all things are considered? i'm peter real about what is the ukraine conflict really all about we're told is about democracy. others say it's about the rules based order, whatever that means. in fact, there is nothing noble about this conflict. it's just another huge gripped those in power. want to keep it that way. the i'll discuss this and more. i'm joined by my guess. martin j america sees an award winning journalist, and commentator. and in budapest we cross the jordan,

samuel we, he is a pod, castro, at the gallagher, which can be found on youtube span locals. i started out with george. as i said in the introduction, georgia, i've always believed. and you know, i've talked about this a great length of this is just another huge graft on the heels of afghanistan. and we all know the phrase, whatever it takes. well, i think that we're missing the 2nd half, whatever it takes for me to make a lot of money. because i think that's the full sentence of this propaganda effort to keep the company going. it's, it's, it's no coincidence. you know, we run out of ammo all we have to buy and make new m. oh okay. new contract going out in, in the meantime, we don't really want to do it bucks, cluster munitions, which basically they want to get rid of it so they can buy the next generation of munitions. i mean, it seems to work for everybody. does it go ahead drawers? well, it's absolutely right, and it's an aspect of this work that has like

a big get got received. they've been very little attention. you know, if we go back to uh, 2014 and the bite and the family and the people around the bite and family, if there was a reason why they bath and onto the ukraine, they saw this as easy money. i mean, we know the buying me with no background to all in the energy industry. got himself a very nice gig with boy isn't up. now, we're also learning now increasing the from the disclosures and the republican laugh house that the, the, the honda biden. and his father and i think other members of the family will also receive substantial amounts of money from ukraine, specifically from various left. so here we have this, the risk next us of the by doing the family and a new crate it. and then of course, this war is extremely profitable, or you may even talk about these weapon systems. and i don't believe areas,

belligerent states and eastern europe. you know, they giving away the weapon rate. and they know that this is what we're going to be replaced and the guns were replaced by the americans. so some people are if it was making an enormous amount of money. they all the honest contractors of the, to the, of a sudden, all the people i'm not making money in what we were seeing in the europe with us as a european industry is being essentially wiped off the face of the up by the united states. they are doing well, this is something that was highlighted by victor or by this this weekend. and so it's a nice, it's a griffith for some. but it also means uh, you know, just being wiped out of the existence of others. in my way, i forgot another important party and all of this the black market. okay, where are these weapons can be found all over the world. now we've had many,

many reports about also unconfirmed. when i say this again on confirmed reports that they administer of defense, ukraine's minister defense daughter bought a $7000000.00 house in france. unconfirmed. i've only seen a report i've seen. i haven't seen cooperated. i wouldn't be surprised, but i've come across numerous other reports out the, the, the european real estate industry as seems to have uh, a favorite buyer right now they come from you praying or. yeah, i loved people, could be forgiven for missing that story because mainstream media did not sees it. it was very much of a friend story of minnesota spending $7000000.00 on a nice little pad in south across you know, the nice money if you've been on it. but i, i've been buying on myself in my own columns for least 9 months about this idea of being result from ukraine. and i think this is story which when the much, the very day, the war stops, you know, i think as, as

a huge business. but i think also lots um this, the industrial industry complex. i mean, washington is a, is a strong above made up of industrial complex, a big pharma. and as long as those industries are being fed, usually the old machine works very nicely. but we have those in power, but aside from that, i've also been saying for a long time, the nice thing there is something else about the brain and the button family. and i think george touched on the point of energy funds, pay and button family on to buy it. and i think there's a lot lot more there to we haven't touched it on, i think is a level of corruption or look mcgraw off. the button family is trying to cover up. i know it is probably the main reason. the main reason for actually going to one the 1st place is that you cover up the problem with all these corrupt deals. you know the problem with this one that you correct yourself, and i really do believe the job i had in for a very, very long time. has been building up. is revenues by looking for such low hanging fruit around the world. you credit is perfect for that. you know, you just as a vice president,

you just have meetings with people and as part of the culture that just to leave a suitcase of cash in your hotel room when you return after a nice, nice meal. you know, he's, he's been preparing for this for very long time. he's been building up friends and intelligence community to protect him, etc. so we shouldn't really be surprised by this, but the problem will, this is at the moment the will stops. all those relationships stop. all the brown stuff comes out and that's really the story for me for bite, and i'm in this campaign and even the campaign leading up to his presidency is, is cover up. so we look back at this history of job of it were born. remember him most taking us to so, but well, with russia, we remember him coming as close to with china, how he's messed up in the middle east. how we know america know roller controls, the price of energy. we remember these things, but we also remember the cultural cover ups cover ups we've never seen before. on this scale of intelligence, community media basically keeping

a presence of empower because it suits them in the longer term and insisting that no journalist can do the job even if they want it to. you know, the story of the, the bible laptop is gonna, is gonna run and run. uh, yeah. yeah. and um, uh, because of the sweet hard deal. they gave him on other issues up in the investigation continue. so he can't be put on. uh, you know, uh, have get, be forced to give testimony, ongoing investigation, but the full, the full, it's about the button to go to jail because it's on the bottom goes to jail, then he has a long line of gymnast. cuz i think the 800 bucks is because if i'm going to go to jail, i'm not going to be the only one the. i think that's fair enough. there was a going to go with george. it's, it's so interesting is that if you look at western media about ukraine, up is, you know, up until january of to of 2020, to the most corrupt country in europe. okay. i'll be on in,

on and on about this here. and then after all this money is being spent, should we have an audit? no audit that's talking points. ok. and there's one reason why you don't want to know what people know where it's going. okay. this is mark said this is a lot of easy money. and it's a grip that just keeps on giving as long as the conflict continues georgia. well, that's right, and i think that's why there is such a great incentive for this conflict to continue a lot of these people making a lot of money. and that i think is mother says if, if the world was to come to an end, they would indeed have to be inquiries about the origins of the war and the by whose families involved with ukraine. but you, ukraine has really been at the center of american politics for quite some time. i mean, if you remember what happened with the, from in the,

in 2019 trump. i had basically he, you know, he found out that that'd be some very serious griffin going on with the binding family and ukraine. um, he wanted to learn more about it. and as the other asking questions. and then eventually he got onto the landscape and said to him, well, find out what the hell has been going on. and, and this, this is, the story is basically, and it is quite an extraordinary uh, fact that the democrats went into a total panic mode. when it, when they found out the trump was really digging into what little they've been going up, the going page. and another whole thing to kind of just to go swept under the rug. and the republicans are trying to make something out of it. but they're not getting very much coverage because the media and i'm going to give any time to republicans on the say, oh, that's all just simply propaganda, republican trump,

propaganda. but it is an interesting aspect of this that the media absolutely desperate to cover up the connection between the u. s. government and the ukraine. and so this is the thing, it's really interesting. i like with george sat there. i mean, they're being there is, there's every interest on their part to cover up a bite and ukraine connection. but they went to tom crazy, over at trump, russian connection, but never existed for 3 years. the park. yeah, i think that's probably got some relations. i touched upon this point earlier, i think when you look at trump and bite, and the item is the one has been incentive to since 1972. the button has been investing in relationships in the key parts of the deep states. and i think he's built up a huge role, chest of intelligence offices. i feel i see, i obviously is retired. i'm working and ministry officials to buffer him to create

this both as owners owned him. i mean, if we look a 100 bought a laptop story, you know, this is a story which is going to gain to mention, i think, between now and elections because even as george bright points out, you know, most mainstream media don't want to touch it, but they're having to kinda ignore anymore. you know, if you look at the origin, start in 2020. this started in the election run up that when binding was a candidates, and you know, it was broken by the deputy blue squared. so the new york post, a lady cooled uh, j morris, who in 2020 reg as grace through by the, the, the laptop unexposed it. and the main issue that she focused on was the emails that emails which linked the button family to the energy farm and the ukraine, the payments, and also the chinese companies. what, let's not forget that the buttons were looking at the possibility of sending market space to chinese energy funds in america. this is explosive stuff. within our so days,

the story was destroyed by mainstream media. biggest political publish. alexa, signed by 51 intelligence officers, which said this was russia, this information. now this is, you are in the campaign period. i'm, you know, most mainstream journalist even today are mentioning that this was pulled off by the board and campaigned button campaign basically wheeled out all these friends said we have to destroy the story. we have to send a message to the big media guns. so let's choose a fringe media player to send that message for us plus goes perfect, and it was the message to the big media editors we've done source. this one was interesting as we approach the break here. george, you and i have talked about this in the past is that when they do mention they, they mentioned the salacious parts. they hookers, the drugs, the lifestyle, but they never want to talk about the business side of it. and that creates empathy because he was under the influence, you know, we have to have compassion, we'll get it before we break that. that's exactly right. but what's also striking is that those 51 intelligence officials for intelligence,

they will have the highest level of the intelligence up are either in the united states, these performance c i a cheese, and s h e is off to this day. they enjoy security clearance. i mean, they will get a regular briefings on intelligence, so they enjoy what even though they absolutely lied, stuck lies about the exam was put to profession george, right? we're going to, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to

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proceeding and that makes them there. they're already target. smelled there is no extra targets. i don't know if that makes any sense right there. but um trump, you know, he says that he wants them to stop the killing. well, that's, that sounds pretty reasonable. okay. he's against more. but he doesn't take a side. and bobby kennedy, which, you know, i've looked at his lineage, he was a russian gator. everybody was faced with his mom came into your was able to, she gave her and he seemed to have educated himself. maybe he was watching us, maybe was listening to grace. oh no, so okay, but he does have a very different to make some of that extra target and we solve this last week with his quoted what anti semitism. this is a substitute to make sure he can even get within arm's length of power. and of course we have donald trump under 4 indictments. i'm not mistaken for you to lose out. assume everybody been who's kind of all the time into mark my words george. that's very interesting. yeah. you put it very well because um,

there are 2 basic ways in which um, the political establishment takes out its enemies. you either bring up, uh god of the charge of anti semitism. you know, racism because that's how i took out pat buchanan. um and when, when he run your vin, jeremy, the 2nd and jeremy going to very good guys. he's like that you're a bring that with you. we like there's no evidence or do you just we was up and, and just them it isn't. oh, you practice. last a and so with trump though he does as we discussed as he has for trials coming up me now and the election. i police full because it's uh, it was old like likely to be something from georgia and then there's a lot of other stuff possible. so it's very hard to see. but what, how he can campaign while he's go realize going from one trial to another. it's not even all this because none of these grandstanding prosecutors or judges are going to just say, well, let's delay this. let's wait till off of the electro. not all they want to run it

now. i mean, they get, they get. i think it's been desperate to do it. so it's, it's likely that he's just going to be gone from one trial to another. you know, well, monday i'm doing this and tuesday, i'm there on a wednesday somewhere else. let me see what the way that they can do is, and of course, all these are absolutely contrived. i mean, they're all basically being conducted by democratic prosecutors. and, and the goal is of, is that, you know, is just to take him out. and is it a said explicitly on m s nbc, in cnn? well, you know, trump to make all of his go away. well, he has to do is to drop out just drop out and it'll go away. i mean, you just get a tap on the wrist. it has a big deal. he'll plead guilty to a couple of misdemeanors. and that's it. so essentially get into that. but the goal is all this, which is to intimidate them from uh, running. and there's no question. i mean, when, when he said a particular on that cnn town hall, when that will,

that was the awful report asking repeatedly, don't you one ukraine to win? and he said, the other says, i want the killing to stop. that was, that was his response. that's not acceptable. uh, within the so the military industrial complex, the, the, the, the policy maybe a lead the, you know, is i that i just absolutely forbid at the top like, but yeah, in martin, you know, get into thinking of trump and robert f. kennedy junior, these are 2 people that it, once it therapy and in power, and the case of trump returned to power. kennedy, if he rises to power, they have a, the, some bones to grind with the intelligence community. first of all, with trumps, he was russia gated by the intelligence community and we know what happened to the kennedy family. so really, these 2 people are the most part was absolutely the most dangerous people for the establishment and their foreign policy. and particularly the intelligence community, martin and we, let's remember, j, f, k. many people were assessed with

a believe he was assassinated because he student against big ministry spending. and he wanted to reduce the ministry spending quite dramatically. and so there was some echoes of bus there was with, with some was a robo junior country, i think is actually pretty small. i mean, i've got a lot of time from i like, i do listen to him. um, but i think uh, ultimately i think this election is going to go down to ukraine more and the mental states, or by the leading to be the 2 major issues. and i think of this idea the trump is going to be popping in a coat rooms with the really not really affect his campaign he'll, he'll get a lot of media time for that, but he's made a couple of blunders. let him, i'm somewhat concerned that the bottom come have 111 school the 11 victory on the fly. more in the trump has brother comes late revealed. well, he's trust you would be so as you claim was he said to a general is,

will or i'll do 2 things. so basically bluff with us and then scale 10, we've got no more money. so we have to end it the same time. i'll go to the russians and tell tuten i'm going to double or triple, triple is a ministry spending that should scare me into signing. yeah, you're laughing, but the dirt. the joke is, if i use your strategy, you've never been, it's a journalist here because it kind of takes away the edge, you know, you so you haven't got much was surprised at the bottom cover probably longer than just started and, you know, and i'm not a trump defender, okay, but normally we've heard from almost any possible issue come up with his theory of the moment that meeting james's my george way. you know that because it's interesting with martin saying, well i think that's a, is he, he's made a mistake every month is right. he made a mistake and revealing his strategy, but we have a suspect of that. that's kind of what do you have in mind? the problem is that the strategy account will work in the 1st place if the what the does the landscape. we're not giving you another dime. 6 business is going to be

a rebellion with it is own uh, politics and the democrats would immediately move to impeach it. i mean, i get it without any question. they're going to move to beach him. and they only need to though is, you know, below away 10 to 15 republicans and you know that and he's in serious trouble. so that's one thing. the other thing is, what does it don't built in a we're going to give you grain everything that he ones, well, what, what else? okay, what else? the they've already received everything that they want. i mean, is this a nuclear weapons that are going to be on the landscape? do you want a little new, small nuclear weapon will provide you with that? so they, it doesn't really have anything. this is a to use as leverage because basically the by the ministration has already given the landscape, everything and what the so he made a mistake. i agree that's a of spelling this out and you're going to just lift this up in the yeah, i know how to do it and i will do it. but, but this, this strategy, this kind of work. yeah, well the, the, the,

the establishment has the ultimate fail safe, but i'm going to go to market right now. is someone like lindsey graham, if, if type prophetically trump were to be turned to the white house and he did exactly what georgia saying, lindsey graham would be the 1st person to want to impeach him. okay. so he doesn't have his car seat that's trying to see the greatest dilemma. he has a huge bass and they worship they roll over broken glass for him, but he has any an establishment the just load see him and you know what the score is there? trunk lose is martin. yeah, but i think there's also a number of swing voters who are sick and tired of the 2 games and the school degree of by demonstration. i can see through it. they can see that all these cases is george points out a completed, contrived, you know, a lot to swing voters in and need to be 5 or 67 percent for,

for trump to get it. but i think the protest vote that we saw before with a, with something and hillary, i think that's going to repeat yourself much, much more intensive for that. you know what i worry about martin and i throw this to george. i think there's another option. people are just not going to participate this and spot on. yeah, i don't know. i don't know, you know, speaking, considering, you know, again, you know, be showing your cards like that. a lot of people just scratching their hands. like, why do you do that? i mean, you have the best thing going for you all have a plan. okay. i mean, ronald reagan did that and he's excited because he didn't tell anybody. dorothy. right, yeah, right. richard dickson, famous 968. he other think the plans are and, and the war. so yeah, the question, i think that, um, the, the democrats will have another trick up the sleeve. and that way we try to take the trump of the balance. i mean the, the, i mean if, as, as,

as likely is jack smith charges trump with the so dish and then they go to try and take them off the valid by saying, hey, this is a violation of the 14th amendment. uh and uh and the you wouldn't be able to run the lead. they only need to succeed in a few states. yeah. um to, to make this uh, essentially a devastating for trump, but i think, i mean they're gonna try it in every state but that i think that's a big they're going to do that. um, but i think that it is trustworthy. uh, trump is rising in the polls as a result of this, the democratic law said because really this is something untoward. this is manifestly unfair to use the uh, the government in this way too has a century purse like you do your political opponents. so it hasn't worked for the democrats sofa, that's why i think they have to go for the next step, which is the take him off of the balance altogether. a. yeah. and martin, just for good measure, maybe take biting off the off the ballot of, you know,

to show kind of some kind of equality there and put gavin newsome up there and they'd be more than happy to do something like that. and, and i'd like to say, let me have like 90 seconds left here. they're not afraid of any other damage. republican in the field, the santas, they'll roll him, they'll roll all of them if they were to get them out. and they rolled me because they're going to be, you know, they, if there is a demonstration, i don't want them to do to be what they did the truck. i mean the lesson has been absorbed. martin, you know, some people, you know, something as well as in the u. k. who i fuller and i respect so even speculating, the least they think the bottom doesn't even want to run a 2nd time. you know, he hasn't put any money up present campaign. he has this extraordinary our goods, i'm confidence possibly because the number of friends and the intelligence community that are protect for him as i mentioned before. but i think if he tells us i can complain. what does it look like from his perspective? he's got, he knows that the claim was going to be wound down, and that's, that's good. that's going to be a terrible stay and his legacy. and then all of these investigations that come out,

which will stay in his family, which will my, my, his family for generations to come with the, with the corruption story. so i think there was a, there's an argument there, but there's also another argument which suggests that perhaps, i don't know if it's gonna happen. you were able to correct me, but perhaps in the, in the months coming up to the fund election, the democrats may lose the buffer. they might lose the that for, for this guy, who, by that stage will not, will needs help even remember what day of the week it is. i mean, just last week or just this week. it was with these where the president and i think it was the was ever mumbling that we ever saw somebody this clearly, you know someone from dementia. i was just embarrassing. so don't know how follow that democrats can go with the guy when, in one years time it, it might be even worse than the way it is. as long as the people around them keep the cash machine go and that's the whole purpose of today's program. and they'll keep them there as all the time we have all the thank my guess, america's and included as well. i think our viewers were watching us here at ortiz,

the next time, remember, prospect rose. the problem was that the noun and whoop was what i mean thing was he got it in order for the lower authority. when, when is the check? i can see what we, i drove you about the one on the page and reviewed the file and she told me to choose what you throw out in the policy, you know, in syria. enormous multi seem easy isn't what is it going to get? no, no, and i'm of course, it only opens. you've got

a gun that will allow us to send anyone at all. no, that's fine. the canada is outsourced, its foreign policy to washington. and washington's agenda is one of global hegemony . washington will not tolerate and i think it, they're not even. they're not even subtle about this. you know they're,

they will not tolerate a global arrival the the china is lita shooting thing arrives in south africa for the much anticipated breaks the nights receiving a warm, great thing from the hosting presence there around the 4th tech he is president and molly's prime minister speak out against a potential for an administrative engine need to say it could be stabilized inside of west african region. also this out of china, iraq mutual. it's great to cooperation and economic trade on infrastructure areas. i suspect that the scripts of distance from washington tons create