call miss the opportunity to do pretty much the same thing and francis own best economic interest when nato picked a fight with russia over ukraine by loading up the country with weapons and neo nazi trainers. and now the bricks, despite having started off as an economic alliance, has no rallied around russia in support of a whole new multi polar world view. thanks in large part to being spewed by the isolationist and punitive treatment of russian by washington and its vassals over ukraine. if not cool is really serious about impressing the brakes, then maybe he should 1st start acting more in line with the independence to which he constantly pays lip service. we're not joined by a guest in our studio. ashcroft patel senior research fellow at the university of south africa and a member of the south african delegation to briggs to discuss the ongoing brick summit. of course in this big announcement, we've just had that many thanks for coming into us. it is very loving c. so. c 1

what do you think about the big announcement? did you expect it to be as many countries as it has been announced? well, it's a huge development for breaks and africa and the global salt. essentially, it was kind of expected that there would be, but its expansion. this has been in the planning for at least 18 months due to the postcode with either many nations need to see better value within the global trade and investment system. so yes, today's announcement is a huge boost for breaks, as well as the global self. so it is a nice mix of nations, and i think it's a big positive news today. and sorry, any of those countries come as talk to you, or were they all kind of expected? they were expected of saudi arabia has been the late come. and i think that seems to be a boost. egypt has always been in the planning to join brakes. and i c, c o p a has also been a cooperated. and of course, gina, which is

a huge player in less than america. so it is quite a good balance and a new kind of layer within brakes and south african president has always emphasized the importance of expansion. but she also quote said, during these turbulent times in your view, what would be the global consequence for breaks expansion? i think overall it easily positive dimension because it speaks to the course of brakes 2022 in the south african leadership, which is about multilateralism. so i think if we, on fact, multilateralism is about 18, a better kind of played investment around the big issues of the day to emphasize economic development as well as treat because those are the boosters for the global economy. so i think it's good for developing solves,

but also good for the will. so i think it's a positive development. i guess this must be a vision that said fine. a lot of the walls right now because of a faulty countries, wanted to become a part of the block, a lot more countries, which is given to the side items, keeping an eye on on how it's going, but have certain interests. they say is the host is block in town, is it because there's a common division about multiple hours a and that they won't face and they won't just take advice, the unit pilot? well yes it is about multiple portfolio. busy i will, president, has spoken about the need for multi phone world, as well as a will router in the you and system. because the u. n. system is about multiple left just the power dynamics that in an equal. and i think having the big powers within breaks a gives a good income for many of these nations as well as the 2nd tier nations that will join. so even though we've got 5 new members now, i hope for the by the end of the summer, they may be some more. but it is

a momentum that is going forward. and so it is it a positive news of for the breaks block. but also for the legions of it, these nations at present. and i think it's about momentum. it's about dealing with the postcode, with downton, as well as the need to boost trade and investment. it does seem like a positive, sorry about that. so this is like a positive steps to me and at the latest, speaking of the past few days, i've only had messages of optimism and, and peace. and you know, inclusivity and yet in the west is being viewed as a blog that's a viable, it's about viable way. it's about say negative things, a negative change in the well, why is it being misconstrued? we'll look at the world is still this contest ation. among large poets, particularly in the big 5, the p 5 of the un security council. and that has always been historic. but i think

with breaks it does give a kind of more broad, a base. so that nations can find a way to look at the big issues which is about trade, which is about job creation, which is about climate change. now if you look at the brakes agenda, the all the major issues of the data within the u. n. system. within the brakes working groups. so for instance, it will be a big boost for climate shift. it will be a big boost for the will tell you the organization that needs a new kind of system. because there's a stalemate in organizations like the w t o. so with the brakes nations, you can get better kind of a equity in, in, in trade. and new kinds of investment is, is seen, china has just signed some energy agreements with south africa. and we're undergoing a lot of energy prices. so that kind of investment is,

has been very welcome by president and i'm opposed applicants because uh we have stuff of deluxe and the energy located. so this is a good plate on how breaks can move forward in addressing the day to day challenges of, of south africa. hey, you know, a cooperation among african countries has also been at the forefront of the brick summit. and south africa has been pushing for more applicant countries to come on board to enjoy the breaks. now we have a, b, o, b, a and e g that have joined to critical geo political and economic powers on the con, on the continent. egypt is extremely, extremely critical, especially what do you make of these 2 african countries being the 1st to joining, besides south africa being the 1st to be the plus. it's look, it's a positive boost because both of them have significant populations. so this

economies of scale of both of them are quite important in the regions and menu. and in some ways they've had rivalry in terms of natural resources, etc, etc. denial of. so if you can bring some stability to the agent, uh, the agent needs economic development. it needs job creation. it needs infrastructure, investor and with the brakes behind them and with the investments that will go through the new development bank. you can create a lot of developments, cutty, those for the region in south africa would be the input in southern africa. but i must say it's all about african unit, not this unit. so. so the africa has shown leadership of egypt as well. i think all the african nation states one piece because with piece of uh you can get develop.

suppose that i much. thank you so much for coming in speak as we've been talking to ashley patel senior research fellow at the university of south africa, a member of the south african delegation to briggs. really appreciate your time. thank you so much. okay, well let me know most of us best take you live inside the summits and see what's going on that as around the pose that is speaker morris and chair of the afternoon . your excellence is lead us of bricks. nations excellence is leaders of africa and the global solve leaders lead us of regional institutions on the ministers, deputy president of the republic of south africa for much stealing. it is a great or not to work i'm. you saw the icon for the breaks outreach and briggs plus when reflecting on the

pip posts and then roll on breaks in the weather. today, we are record that button due to conference of 1955 when asian and african nations demanded a great voice for the developing countries in world affairs. their commtrans code for the recognition of the quality of all nations. both large and small, which do share that's common vision of that's the end to adjust the world. we're still sick to overcome from already and divisions. we want a words without variance between north, south, east and west. we're still seeking a world in which so we went together and up into by mutual respect

through the 15 bits segment and this dialogue we should strive to advance the bundle, spirit of unity, friendship and cooperation. in the south africa, we have a way that we use to describe friendship operation and recall that will do well born to is a purchase based on the understanding that our success, our prosperity and what would be demands on the success prosperity and the well being of this that is why we also use another south african to about our identities

while respecting the identities of others. we often say i am the cost to you and that is the competition. and that is the respect that we want to quote to one another. we see that bricks talk the shape as a culture, lives for global growth and development and response to the needs of all nations. it is that right of africa and then tied, drove us all to $43.00 maps. the benefits of global trade and investment without change and investments are all right. it's hard on these cannot survive and our people as material conditions cannot improve. as the african continent,

we are determined that the continents subspace showed resources are harnessed for the benefits, as well as for the development of the people of africa. the african continental street trade area, once fully operational well and lots of the benefits of the continental market. and generate substation opportunities for african countries, but also for other countries to make use a visa opportunities. africa is looking to briggs partnership to unlock infrastructure and development financing. this was the top of the founding vision of the new development band. this band is playing

a leading role in efforts to increase the resilience of the global saw and to bring fitness to the low bruce trading system, the financial system and to strengthen bricks currencies. we have to reform global economics, financial and political, as well as the much electro trading system so that we can create a couldn't just safe environment for federal. why many countries of the global solve a c t sufficient significant progress in industrialization and technological developments in innovation and the digital economy? they are not fully repeating the economic benefits of their efforts by working

together by sharing skills and capabilities. by mobilizing resources, we would be able to give renewed impetus to the global growth and sustainable development. we need to move beyond expressions of solid outage it towards inclusion. mutually beneficial economic cooperation as well. which trusts that this dialogue that is being attended by some 65 countries will provide leadership vision and the hope as we strive together for a better africa and for a better world. it is for this reason that i will come you oh,

warmly. and i will come, you oh, fun the half of the breaks the, this for heavy just issued the declaration which outlines a number of important aspects. the bricks, the does have also taken a decision to like spawns the bricks, membership and that announcement having been made, we welcome those new members. but at the same time, that is the 1st phase and the face is, will follow. and we will come various of the countries in the partnership of the bricks countries. so thank you very much and thank you for being here. i think the having done this,

i now would like to invite president lula da silva, the president of the republic of brazil to take the floor. but it was a dentist display this case. it was the government that it was or did the guy i would like to say, do you think the president's a 50, our president from a poster or organizing. so these discussions with the african countries, it is a time for us to renew corporation with the developing countries. so we

see the new challenges that rising homes up the jesus putting up with the media for local stats read. and those are compounding, these problems that are already exist, levant, we are faced with a pen democratic with new conflicts. we should deal with the climate crisis a at a time when we're working towards the sustainable development. got locked up by the end when the 23rd, the agenda was adopted. the outline path towards a better future inc. why? view and now investment? half of the good. what is the name? how behind schedule, we're seeing a stag. nice. they need to be on a balance of uh, the name of those goals, a vital lack of security that we shouldn't be using. oh boy, you puts us on the level of, you know, from the 2005 east of democracy, right? correct and advise you. focus stream is amends, you know, for to be a once again,

what we're faced with the risk either as part of nuclear war by the or the 3 of the world has roll back. i think that people don't ask for really and wanting to create faithful me going well, that would be more just restart cavities. i'm a fan of the but the road, a virus pen of demick who took the lives of many people, a swede. it was $55.00, so a lack of access to vaccines. any african countries that made technology? yes. i want to know what to consider. all the signs had to be felt secure. would say you came in at the stuff that the african union, my food you know, adopted a digital tax. amazing strategy for the said hundreds of style tops. yeah. yeah. so i can take that all right. gimme already developing and africa people. at the same time, i did leave a message for amanda,

and the joe we were seeing unilateral measures, he'll give you a threat to multilateral, less noisy, the african continent. i mean, you that you are does now help you to a free trade to arrange, to get $3.00 point to $5000000000.00 is the compound, judy painting of this month to month or actual organizations cannot face any of the challenges in nancy. yeah. for you, because now exist in the world, you will see many separate conflicts. i seem to be to cut a rising. you see. but i don't know the price, small alliances i thing for will see african countries come together to maintain by piece and corporations and the work themselves. atlantic region by you at the same time, i put them as it is hope is that there are so many barriers survey to african develop. what does, what does the promises do to move drugs that were made?

do you imagine that probably have not been realized? the african countries are facing a miles prior to that and you will be made. they've paid the base for them, the resources available to the global south port that some of the box spring came into the developing world whose depends on the exports of commodities. and the demand is volatile theater if the price is going up, this case 3. so the financial institutions it's all right, but i'm available providing services that increase traits, i mean, and this reduces the capabilities up at the developing world. it is impossible to ensure sustainable development when your budgets for your 5 most viewed 15 minutes, i mean only goes to service your debt. but it's time to review on the

financing and developing models, the energy transition. but it's suzanne with his voice, cannot be because the key. yeah, you're absolutely cannot be the thing that will know in the legacy of exploitation need to great value added products be useful enough and we're seeing an important signal that that's what am i getting that is gross of a poverty and hunger. and that is unacceptable. despite the fact that this problem is not receiving enough attention, gets good the or some abuses of view. and so at least there can you n y. glad you were seeing gross, the price of it. yeah. emissions side of them was, but those are mostly accounted for by one percent of the population by putting

those countries. so if we have already mentioned that the attempts to lay you fish take to place the blame for that, that could be the illusion that hands on the poorest countries. this is unfair for you. the more we need to make sure that the leg agriculture list developing and your social protection is available. we've discussed this, i do the amazon summit and we're going to discuss this with other countries, such as we think we can go get him to look into this. i have felt that these new in december, i assume that the g 20 summit view. we've discussed this as well, and we think this should be the focus of the global agenda, but it wouldn't be possible if african representation is not growing. so

we have the countries to make the old sick with the african union. i'd have someone call me a more prominent, you know, stakeholder in the global arena. i visited and go live. most of them depend a south africa during my visit. i always take up this subject. so i think it was a time that we were still have story size with the developing countries and it's important to have common goals and microscope. the fact that about 20 leaders of the global south present here at the summit, that roger is a testament to the interconnectedness of the world meant that we don't want any cold war logic. we need to include competition behind us. we need to build

trust and cooperation with the global self weld needs to be is more equal, more inclusive, and see more solid everything. thank you. in the silva, i now want to call up for president id may have put in the president of the for the russians trader issue who would be addressing us via video conference from must go really, but it wasn't measuring that love at this address. so stage is that i get the call these friends latest and to implemented just to look. first of all, i would like to thing the south african presidency for holding these the saw me to within the form it of breaks flaws out for each vase for him.

it is very important because it gives us a good opportunity to discuss relevant mattress and detailed matters of mutually beneficial corporation with those countries that largely share the approaches. so the rates croup with like minded countries. b, as i'm happy to welcome this just to read all of here and here with friends, we all stand for developing new multi polar in world or world orders that would be truly balanced and we'd consider a solver and interest of as many states as possible. it would open a few avenues to implement different math models of development and would preserve the diversity of national traditions. briggs does not compete with anyone yet, but it does not confront anyone to oppose any one. but

these premises, the process of establishing a new world order and has some opponents who want to stop. so there's great. this is to determine the development of the new independent sanders of development in the world. the country is solved, the so called golden building are doing everything to preserve the unipolar world because they are happy with it. it is beneficial to them or they want to replace the international law with their own. so cold rules based world order and no one solve these rows. these rules are used, you mean for it to their advantage. and they change depending on the political climate whenever they want it to change. in correspondence with the interests of individual countries. basically it is a colonialism, meaning you packaging. and it does not look that good either. and the modern day

colon nicer is hiding behind the democracy. human rights matos would be one to resolve their problems at someone else's expense. and they are pumping out resources from the developing countries. and by the way, currently resilient president mentioned the a book that version of the developing economy is yes. on the one hand, the resources are being pumped out. and on the other hand, same of the machine, you see it is the developer such cooperation. so within the financial policies in loan policy is that it is near to impossible to pay out based allowance and it does not load as loans anymore. it looks like 100 use. and again, there is also a threat coming from the radical new labor only as an aim and to the destruction of

traditional values which are important. essentially, all of those families valley is the respect for the national and religious traditions that you can put a way to do this. this has and some politicians, they are trying to just to fight even near and now to xena thought the stream is and get a and they turn blind eyes to the terrorist activities. and the world majority, the countries can be in here, it belong to, is getting more and the more tired of all kinds of trash or all kinds of machinations and manipulations. we are willing to have mutually respectful and the quote partnership. this is the position that the brakes countries are using to find the approaches to develop multilateral cooperation with all the countries both present here and other developing countries and with the regional integration organizations as well, including the s c i as raising economic union,

john high cooperation organizations i see on the side. yes, it's gary been the account freeze and it was the persian gulf arab states counsel and considering that possibly we have here. the majority of the african state present here as the focus of breaks attention is on africa move. i made surely book and we in russia, we are welcoming it because we believe it's the right thing to do, especially it seems to day some it is carried by the south african republic. and with the manual view, we would do math reasonably in saint petersburg during the 2nd russian african summit, where we held useful, instructive discussions conversations in saint petersburg, we reaffirmed the drawstring doctor to are conducted by the friendship less linked to friendship and mutually beneficial. the relations under tend to you personally by the relations established back when the struggle for

freedom occurred at the african continental induce we believe that the applicant, we appreciate that applicant countries have friendly relations with ross. and we are interested in dipping multilateral cooperation with the african continental. and we will continue to promote that these tides in practice. and we are going to implement joined projects in various fields. and we pay special attention to this, you know, the feeling that was supplying food and fertilizers to the applicant markets and global markets. and we're going to use all the capabilities and we have to help to struggle the world hunger and not to allow the food cried has to happen for the 2nd year in the road. we have a record high brain kneeled and we have christ. if there was.